Try this for BETTER color grading results | Sigma fp | DaVinci Resolve CinemaDNG RAW Color Grade
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The Sigma fp is a work of art, but it can be a challenge, especially when it comes to post production and color grading. In this video I break down my 7-node structure for better Sigma fp color grades in DaVinci Resolve, and I also provide some tips and tricks to help further demystify the Sigma fp post-production workflow.
Disclaimer:
Upon further inspection, it turns out the clip I'm grading in this video is NOT shot in 30 fps. I did shoot the majority of the b-roll I captured in Thailand at 30p so I assumed this clip was as well, but when doing my last checks I discovered that this one, specifically, was shot at regular 'ol 24 fps. Apologies for the inaccuracy y'all. I have provided a number of clips at varying frame rates - 24, 30, and 100 - at the link below, so be sure to download so you can check out the benefits of shooting in 30 fps that I mention in the video. I've even provided a DaVinci Resolve project file (.drt) with the off-speed frame rate clips already conformed in timeline for you. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:18 Footage Specs
02:23 Camera Raw Tab
04:04 Project Settings Tip
04:58 Setting Up the 7-node Structure
05:31 Color Space Transform (CST)
06:50 Primaries, White Balance
08:27 Tone Mapping
09:43 Glow Effect
11:00 Vignette, Sharpening
13:00 Final Result
13:30 Conclusion
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There is so much more to learn here. That 7 Node thing needs to be it's own detailed Color Grading Video!!! This is the 1st helpful Color Grading in DVR Video I've seen in a LONG time! Great job bro ✌🏼
Wow! Thanks! That means a lot. Super glad you found the video helpful.
Awesome video, mate. Great workflow. The way you speak while working works and shows how the thinking process follows your moves and decisions. Real immersive in the mind of a creator like you. That brings lots of extra value. Thank you
awesome breakdown… makes davinci feel a bit less intimidating than I thought
That’s great to hear! The more time you spend in it the less intimidating it becomes. Never a better time to start than today!
Very elevated grade and love the breakdown. I struggle with CC sometimes so this is very cool to unpack a technique 👍👍
Good grade. Another fun way of changing the workflow is setting up the color management in a different way. In the Raw settings, set colorspace to 2020 and gamma to linear. Then, the first node use a CST and convert to and colorspace you like to use, I normally go to Arri LogC. From there you can use a similar workflow as you used in the video. What this ultimately does is provide a cleaner tone map from the RAW to Arri colorspace. Rather than deal with Blackmagic gamma and color, you can use a more tried and true grading space. I use this on my FS7 RAW footage, and it works quite nicely.
The Sigma never fails to impress with the depth of the colors and tonality.
I’m gonna try that! I’ve been messing around with Arri log c but haven’t tried the first color management step. Thanks for the tip!
“In the Raw settings, set colorspace to 2020 and gamma to linear”.
Hi, Mason Hunsicker, could you, please, direct me where I can exactly choose Rec.2020 colorspace and Linear gamma separately? Is it in the Project Settings window under the Color Management tab or is it under the Camera Raw tab?
Thank you!
@@semmussaev I'm sorry, it isn't Rec2020, it's P3.
@@semmussaev under the raw settings when using clip, change color to P3 and gamma to linear. The way you do it is just as good as well. I find using the linear setting more capable when using DNG raw. Using the CST to change into any colorspace after that tends to respond pretty well.
I will say, after test grading with your clips you posted, I'm insanely impressed with the shadow retention and capabilities of the camera.
@@vanburen08 oh, you've saved me my hair))) couldn't find a way to set it separately. As far as I know you can do it in ACES color science: setting IDT to rec 2020 and ODT to anything you used to, then creating a node with ACES CST to rec.709.
Anyway thanks a lot!
I really appreciate this video! Thank you for providing a walkthrough for a nice natural grade. I find a lot of the grade tutorials that I see online lean way to heavily into the whole “Cinematic” teal and orange” thing.
I feel you. The teal/orange look has been really "hot" for the last couple years. And I love it too in the right situations, but I think a lot of that is lighting for it instead of trying to force it in the grade. For me, nothing beats a nice natural grade.
Excellent grade. I don't need an FP, but looking at the image quality from your work, and others, I want one...
Thanks! The struggle is real lol 🤣
OUTSTANDING job, Dylan! Thank you so much for sharing your workflow for the FP. This helps me a great deal! 😄👍
Thanks so much! I'm glad it was helpful 🙂 Stay tuned! I'm releasing a Sigma fp 101 video next week that goes over my offload, compression and ingest process in detail. Will be discussing the use of Slimraw to shrink those massive CinemaDNG files and also my project settings in DaVinci Resolve in more detail.
@@DylColeman AWESOME! Can't wait!
I know this is an old video but I’ve been watching your videos and they are really helpful man. Thanks for doing them as I just got my Sigma FP a few days ago. Looking forward for more videos 👍🏼
Thank you, my friend! And welcome to the fp family 🙂
Great video! Thanks for the download footage too. Much appreciated!
Thanks! And you’re very welcome!
So many great tips in here, thanks! 🙏
You’re very welcome!
finally picked one up. thanks for your knowledge bro.
You're very welcome! And welcome to the Sigma fp fam!
just got my fp and I got a lot of learning to do. very well presented vido! you got my subscription.
Thanks for the sub! And welcome to the fam 😊
I think this is the Best FP color grading tutorial so far
Wow! Thanks! Really glad you found it helpful 🙏🏾 thanks for watching!
Of great help for beginners.
Glad it was helpful!
Dylan, just came here to say that your video really influenced me to buy fp recently. Was planning to learn filming and cant decide which to start with. Slimmed my choice down to fp. Buy it second-hand, in great condition. I havnt tried 12-bit CDNG cause i mainly grade on ipad, which DR still doesnt support CDNG. As of now, even with only 4k uhd mov , im totally impressed and its already more than enough for my need. Great image quality.
Glad to hear it! I think I’m gonna start shooting more MOV and HD on it so I don’t have to shoot to the T5’s all the time. There’s something really nice about having a native lens on on there and no drive
Nice workflow 🙌🏾
Thanks!
Aye big dawg... preciate this video big time... I run a Panasonic GH5S with the Atomos Ninja V for Pro Res Raw... yesterday 2-6-2023 updated to Assimilate Play Pro Studio that lets me convert Pro Res Raw into Cinema DNG... I did exactly what you did here... and the results were excellent. Thank you sir. Mainly it was the conversion that was always messing me up.
Nice! That’s great to hear. New workflows and post processes can be a challenge for sure. That’s why I’m thankful for this community. Such great info and help there. You just have to look!
How big are the files sizes of pro res raw with the GH5S?
This is a very good tutorial, it is really the first time I am happy with my color correction. For my portfolio, I wanted to add new shots, but because I don't have a camera, at least not yet, because most of the time I use footage from someone else (I'm a compositor). So I had to film it with my phone. Now, I got a new phone and it has a RAW option, when it came out I saw it was a DNF file instead of my usual exr file and acescg color space, so I was really confused. After searching the whole day on how to use DNF and what pipeline I should use, I came across your video. This was a 2 in 1 video because I needed to know how to work with DNF, and I always wanted to know how to properly color correct. Most UA-camrs always forget about things like color space, but you went over it very slow and detailed, thanks a lot! You got my like and your video is going in one of my compositing playlists :) .
That's so awesome to hear! I'm really glad the video was helpful to you!
Very helpful! Thanks!
You’re very welcome!
this was really cool. i'm a dyed-in-the-wool advocate of the sigma fp, it's my primary camera, however i use blackmagic-RAW through to resolve and have yet to find any sigma fp / B-RAW / davince resolve workflow detail on youtube.
Interesting! I haven’t had the chance to try out recording in BRAW with the fp yet
Really informative, thank you!
You’re very welcome!
Thanks so much! Super helpful!
You’re welcome! Glad you found it useful 😊
Thanks Dylan 😊
You're welcome!
At lat some well color graded footage from this camera.
Thank You 🙏
You’re very welcome!
I lvoe u:) thanks
Thanks. That was really helpful. I have the original BMPCC. I think this workflow would work for raw from that camera as well. I'm also planning to buy the Sigma FP. I subscribed. I'm looking forward to your future videos.
Thanks for the sub!
What would be very helpful is to show those of us who don't know the process of adding the DNG files into Davinci and then creating a full clip to the timeline.
I’m gonna try and make a quick video for you this weekend on the subject 👍🏾
@@DylColeman That would be awesome! Thank you kindly 😀
Thank you!!!!!
You’re very welcome!
Dylan, your videos are top notch! Have you tried the in-body electronic stabilization when shooting video? How do you prefer to stabilize the FP?
hey! Thanks you! Really glad you enjoyed the video. I haven’t tried in-body stabilization yet. I usually stabilize inside Resolve on a clip by clip basis
Thanks! What a great tutorial! Did you use the Color Off profile to record?
Thank you! Yes, correct - no color profile when shooting. I have yet to experiment with the custom tone curve or any of the color profiles as of yet
Yes
Really useful 👍. So how and when would you incorporate lut files in this workflow? Second last node or start with it? Thanks 🙏
Hey there! It depends on the LUT, specifically what input the LUT is expecting. I would always place it at the end of the node tree but if it’s a LUT that is made for a REC709 color space input it would go after the CST node. Most of the time, though, I’m using one or the other. I’ve made a few custom LUTs that are hybrid and perform both a color space transform AND some creative adjustments, so in those cases it’s just the LUT and it’s placed all the way at the end just like the CST node
Nice work Dylan. Very helpful. What are your colour management settings in project settings if you don't mind me asking?
Hey there! My color management settings are what I believe to be the default settings. Color science is set to DaVinci YRGB, and both the timeline and output color space is set to Rec.709 Gamma 2.4. Glad you found the video helpful
@@DylColeman Thanks mate!
More content!!!!!!
You got it! I'm aiming to ramp up the cadence of the content I release this year. Let me know what you would like to see next!
Thanks for the vid, looks great! So can you not change the ISO in the Camera Raw Tab? Its not stored with the metadata on the clip level like you can with BRAW? Thanks!
Hey! Thanks for watching 🙏🏾 No, unfortunately, you can't change ISO in the RAW tab after the fact like you can with other RAW formats 😖
Thanks
You're welcome!
Thank you so much for giving out so much informations. Great video. I have question about the thing when I would like to shoot 60fps on 4k which is not possible. How do you deal with upscaling the image ? Or do you have any advice in shooting slow motion with Sigma FP ? Thank you, kind regards.
You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching 🙏🏾 to answer your question, I upscale my footage using the super scale feature in DaVinci Resolve. I set the scaling to “2x,” the sharpness to “medium” and the noise reduction to “low”. Shooting slow motion on the fp isn’t great, but you can shoot a few different high-speed framerates like 60p and 100p in 10-bit RAW, but ONLY in HD (1920x1080). 10bit is much better than nothing and scales up to 4k pretty nicely in Resolve
great video! just a question on what color profile did you film on sigma fp? Thanks
Thanks! I didn't shoot with a color profile on the Sigma. I always have that setting turned to "OFF" when I shoot
I don't shoot w/ the Sigma FP but I am converting ProRes Raw to CinemaDNG from a GFX100s. I'm still trying to learn what's the best way to grade the footage.
Interesting! I've heard so many mixed opinions on the CinemaDNG container. Some people say it's trash, while others say it's the RAW-est of all the RAWs. Personally, I like it. The file sizes take some getting used to, but I love the way it grades in Resolve after some color space transformation
Am I crazy??? I love the "BEFORE" looks amazing to me.
Yeah? I agree it’s a nice image, but I love adding a bit of saturation in there
@@DylColeman I guess is up to taste. Either way the image looks amazing. I come from Canon and Sony. I was terrified because people hate this camera and always talk so bad about it. I like challenges and went ahead and bought one. ☝🏼 and mannnn let me tell you. I FELL IN LOVE. Is actually way easier to maneuver as far as menu than my Canon and Sony. I’m never selling this camera. I found a new love 😂💕
@@envisagefilmshouston Amazing! The fp is DEFINITELY not for everyone, but I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it!
@@DylColeman Please make more videos like this I really enjoy your content, specially dedicated to this lil beast of camera! cheers!
Hey Dylan, Thanks for the video. I recently purchased this camera and now need am trying to decide whether to get a Mac Studio or PC. What do you suggest is the best way to go to edit the Sigma FP
You're welcome! So, I edit my Sigma fp footage in DaVinci Resolve on a 2019 Macbook Pro, the ones that were around just before the M1 chips came out (😖). It does the job pretty well with a 64 GB DDR4 RAM and a AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8 GB graphics card, but there's room for improvement in terms of its performance in handling large 4k cDNG projects. If there's a lot of footage in one project, I typically have to create proxies so that I can assemble and edit smoothly. On smaller projects I don't for some reason, but I always edit in a 1920x1080 timeline until I'm ready to export, then I switch the project over to 4k UHD, render and finish. This makes Resolve a lot faster during the "heavy lifting" portions of an edit. To answer your question though, I think you'll be fine either way. I don't have a lot of experience with PCs but, from what I hear, you get more bang for your buck. Apple is expensive cause it's Apple. I use them cause I love their products, but I'm considering getting a powerful desktop workstation soon and definitely not ruling out PC options.
this is a very good video! have you tried the ipad version of davinci?
Thank you! No I haven’t. I hear it runs surprisingly well
can you adjust ISO in Cinema DNG? it seems to be blacked out on your screen.
Oddly, you can't. It's not like other RAW formats where the ISO remains changeable even after the footage has been captured. Odd indeed
question! i'm learning resolve in order to make my full switch this year from premire. specifically for the sigma fp, why do you choose to use the blackmagic color space? is it because you shot in blackmagic braw? i was thinking that was diffrent than cdng. or is using the blackmagic color space just a personal, aestheic choice for you that you think looks best? if so, could this be said the same for all color spaces? if someone shoots cdng could they switch to any other color space like arri or red if they think it looks good to them or a good starting place like you do? and have this choice not be a wrong way to do it since its uncompressed cgng raw?
Hey there! Yeah it's just a personal choice. I'm selecting the Blackmagic Design color space and gamma in the RAW tab to regain a lot of the dynamic range in the cinemaDNG clip, so it made sense to me to use that as a starting point to then color space transform into Rec709 during the grade. You don't get many color space options in the RAW tab and the default one - Rec709, sRGB - looks pretty terrible. I've seen a lot of people throwing it into an Arri color space after making the Camera RAW tab adjustments (I assume) with great results. There's a great Arri to Rec709 LUT inside of Resolve that works well if you color space transform into Arri LogC first. I've been experimenting with it some lately.
Hi! Have You worked with Aces using the Sigma, i have one a want to do cg integration using that Workflow but haven found videos about it
I have not. I'm not very familiar with the ACES workflow in Resolve
Hi Dylan thx for your great video. May i ask if the davinci resolve free version support 12bit color? Have searched many and seems the free version doesnt support 10 bit color or above.
Thank you very much!
Ooo good question. I’m not sure myself. I received the Studio version with my BMPCC4K when I purchased it back in 2019, so almost all of my experience is with the paid version. That would be unfortunate if that’s true. Compared to the recurring charges for something like Adobe CC though, the $300 price tag is a steal.
I tried different options in the input gamma and input color space tabs and found a combination of Input color space - BMPCC 4K film gen 4 in conjunction with Input gamma - ST2084, which results in a very soft and at the same time saturated video as a result. I plan to shoot more material in the near future and try to process it in such a bundle. Thanks for pointing out where to go on this path of pulling color from Sigma FP)
You're welcome! And thank YOU for the additional workflow. Another thing I love about this camera - lot's of freedom to be creative and arrive at great results in different ways
Hi Dylan, nice video. I was following your steps but when I change the "Decode Using" to Clip the options of Color Space and Gamma are blocked, I can't select them. Why is this happening? Thank you!
Hey there. I’m sorry you’re having trouble. Not quite sure that’s happening. Are you for sure using raw media? Did you transcode or convert your footage in any way before importing into Resolve?
@@DylColeman Hi Dylan. I just figure it out that if I'm working with Davinci YRGB Color Managed this options in the raw tab are blocked so I had to switch the color science
Downloaded the sample clips, thanks.
When looking trough them, at the clip T012-075xxxxx at 1:00:42:20 about it focus out and in, is this on purpose or a auto focus issue?
Like the camera, but its really hard to choose ..
Sigma FP, Sigma FP L or (just because the creator trailer) the Sony FX3 (Great autofocus is a high requirement for me)..
That would be me focusing in the sample clips. There’s no continuous auto focus for video on the fp. And from what I’ve heard, the FX3 is amazing. In terms of frills and features, that camera, and even the fx30, runs circles around the fp. But it’s all about what YOU need. If the FX30 came out a few months earlier, this video may have never been made lol
Is there a way we could send u a clip to look at that we colorgraded from the fp? I shot myself a couple months back using my fp
Yeah sure. My email is dylcoleman@gmail.com. If you wanna work out a different way to send it over to me reach out to me on IG. My handle is in the description
@@DylColeman awesome. I will try to send it via email by the G drive link.
My sigma fp dng files are very less saturated on DaVinci resolve viewport. Is there any fix?
Hey there. Is that after you apply the Rec.709 color space transform node or just without any correction at all?
Hello, thanks for the video. Which lens did you use in the [000001-000512].DNG, [000027-000384].DNG and T005_014_20221011_ file?
Hey there! For the T005 clip and all other clips that I provided I used the Nikkor 35mm f/2 vintage lens. Fantastic piece of glass
@@DylColeman Thanks for your reply! I have a question about the Sigma fp. Is it possible to load in the camera a LUT to preview it while you are shooting in RAW dng? I was checking the manual, but I can't find .
So the h264 is only 8 bit?
Not sure
В каком качестве вы делаете проект а в каком выводите готовую версию? С сигмы фп
I shot everything in 12-bit 4k UHD and also in 10-bit HD for the 100 fps slow motion. I edited mostly in a 1920x1080 timeline until I got close to export, then I switched to 3840x2160 before exporting.
@@DylColeman настройки проекта то же были 3840 2160 ? Спасибо)
my project settings were 1920x1080 until was ready to export. The nice thing about Resolve is that sizing up is easy and doesn't take any extra conversion steps 👍🏾
Are you still shooting with and recommending the fp?
I still shoot with it. There are times when it feels dated. Whether I recommend it or not depends on what you need. I don’t think it will be enough for most. The image is great but it’s not an easy workflow
@@DylColeman thanks I was kinda thinking the same. I already have a s5ii. The interesting sigma piece for me. It’s that sigma has been pumping out apsc L mount lenses. For a camera that does not exist. I wonder if sigma is releasing a apsc camera of sorts soon. I’m in FL too Pasco county