the story he is in isn't the best but the character design and the idea of a batman who has the insanity of the joker is quite interesting but owl man in the comics is not an evil batman (Bruce Wayne)
I find it ironic that owlmans plan if executed, would ultimately lead to nothing(in line with nothing matters), but his decision to do that incited others to stop him. Kind of thwarting the whole "nothing matters besides *this* decision" idea, which in itself matters. He created a situation and circumstances where it does actually matter in the entire grand scheme of things. Momentarily destabilizing the entire multiverses fate.
In the end, Owlman said that Batman stopping him did not matter. That implies that there were multiverses where Owlman succeeded and ones where he did not. Perhaps that is the way out of this conundrum.
@@isaacclark9825 I imagine he'd go to the top of the ladder if there were multiverses of multiverses, as he was trying to erase all of existence His final statement still has meaning though, he held onto his deluded perverted ideology till the end, not seeing the irony in everything he did. I think of his final statement as a shallow surface level acceptance of defeat, and perhaps nothing matters *to him only now* as he will be deceased. Maybe in that last second he had a revelation of sorts, a moment of clarity. It's rough for me to understand him, but that may be the point. It just doesn't matter. I'm not certain lol
@@isaacclark9825 Owlman couldn't succeed -- this is because the Earth is still here. Many realities are still here. If even one of the other versions of himself succeeded, then the rest of the multiverse would have been destroyed already. But as shown thus far, the multiverse is still here and kicking (expanding with more choices). It means Owlman (no matter the versions) couldn't destroy Earth prime or he never could find Earth prime to begin with. OR his conclusion about "by destroying Earth prime, then the rest of the multiverse will get destroyed" is incorrect from the beginning. In conclusion, Owlman's quest to destroy every reality is doomed to fail from the start.
@@MILDMONSTER1234it is true just not for every adaptation. its the most fitting origin (imo) but i understand how batman begins couldve butchered it for someone who’s invested in the comics.
Owlman is the perfect showing of someone who feels so empty he would destory the multiverse just so he knows he did something of his own free will. Him and Ulquiorra from bleach pretty much show why it's horrifying to find yourself at the bottom of the abyss or detached from everything Plus like gods and monsters batman owlman can stand on his own as a character
Owlman's plan to destroy the multiverse by destroying the prime wouldn't have worked anyway, you can't destroy a forest by cutting down the first tree then go home, every choice and every action has a parallel existence, so where we see the worlds were he failed, there should be a world were he succeeded, but no, the multiverse is still going, still expanding, still changing, he was right, nothing he dose matters.
Owlman: "I am your older brother." Batman: "No. No. Its that not true. THATS ITS IMPOSSIBLE." Owlman: "Search my background, you know that its true." Batman: "NOOOOOOOOOOOO."
Speaking of owl, man, and feel free to do your own take on this if you want, but I think it would’ve been cool. If instead of killing the justice league, the suicide squad game is about killing the crime syndicate. That way, you can rescue a defeated justice league and have fun these imposters and pissing on their corpses
@@ComicCasualVideos Thanks. Seeing as brainiac is depicted as a multi verse threat in the Arkham universe, I’d tell you it would make sense that he would just recruit a version of the justice league from another universe to be his puppets. so choosing the crime syndicate would be a good option (not to mention in the comics Ultraman is actually powered by kryptonite and weak to sunlight. so the scene where Superman got stabbed with kryptonite but survived would actually make sense in this version and between you and me, I have a better time accepting the idea Ultraman could get hit focused light guns rather than bullets since sunlight will naturally be moving at the speed of light.)
Hey fun fact a LEGO GAME did that well not killing them but beating the crime syndicate yes a LEGO GAME for KIDS made a better job then a pg13 game for adults that is embarrassing
@@RaymondFarinas-su3dy in death metal comics. There were 3 clans. Bird, owl, and bat. The batman we got joined the bat club. Owlman was practically taken by the owl clan is what im saying, but i get what you're saying though
Funny enough, in the Batman Who Laughs series, laughs is killing and gathering DNA from alternate Bruce Wayne's from the Dark Multiverse. He eventually came across one variant that was trained by the Court and became their leader. He was stated by Laughs that he was one of the variants he looked forward to the most before killing him off panel.
He’s pretty much the only evil Batman who’s stuck the landing and actually good. Wrath, Hush, Talon, Prometheus, and more subtle evil batmen like Azrael, Lockup, Ghostmaker (I know he’s not evil but still) have never really made a big splash. Sure there’s Zur but he was ruined and I don’t even wanna talk about Batkek. I know there’s probably like a billion other attempts at an evil Batman I missed too
@@KevinTheKevinableI think that highlights the influence of Alfred even more. Bruce/Thomas will alwaye fall in line with the morality of their respective Alfreds
said it before and imma say it again: the scariest villains are the ones who don't care if they win or lose, they simply want to do something that might make a difference to them, but if they fail? oh well, bleach has a very similar villain i've forgotten his name!!
They both looked into the same abyss, Bruce looked deep into it & saw forgiveness s as long with Alfredo raising him; because remember Thomas Whyne wasn’t all that clean🤷🏽♂️ Thomas Whyne JR-Owl Man looked into the abyss & blinked & never saw forgiveness just darkness & he didn’t have Alfred so nothing really matters 2him Owl Man stated it doesn’t matter ‘cause he still exists in another universe or time line
It’s crazy how yah swear he’s “more” but do a pretty poor job at portraying what yah “feel” like this video didn’t change what I knew and thought ab him in the slightest 😅😂
Batman who laughs: well (keeps ranting for hours like ledgers joker or zamasu from dragon ball super) OWLMAN: all of what you said doesn't matter Bwl: 😳😭😭 you don't have to be this mean!!!
I have nothing against the person who currently voiced Batman in the "Crisis on Two Earth's movie, but how much more impactful would that scene with Owlman and Batman would have been had Kevin Conroy (R.I.P.) did the Batman voice? I only say it because James Woods killed it with the Owlman voice. Never expected the Owlman to sound "that" good.
Still not close to Batman so why like someone who’s a VERSION of the main one😂 I mean if you had your top 5 hell even top 10 your not gonna add a copy and paste of a superhero just his evil ALTERNATE version😂
what you made me realize is that owlman should’ve realised that his plan wouldn’t work because if it did owlman wouldn’t exist from the start. that is such a cool concept, the existence alone of a true dicision contradicts that decision itself, because if it were possible at the same it wouldn’t be. amazing writing fr
Hey everyone; heres a fun tidbit... Thomas Wayne Sr. (Batman) doesn't know about Thomas Wayne Jr. (Owlman) and that can be the the most fucked story for Bruce.
Owlman is the coolest. Actually love the Crime Syndicate. He's one of my favorite characters. The animated movie did him the most justice, also "EARTH 2"
If that version it's not the one from the new 52 then I don't know wich one is, but it doesn't make that much sense that he turns evil when he knows his parents weren't good people. The original Squadron Supreme's Nighthawk actually becomes a hero because he found out after his father's death that he was a corrupt businessman. Grant Morrison's version of Owlman is much more interesting. His mom and brother (his Earth's Bruce) are murdered and he learns as a young boy that they died because his dad was going to testify against a monster, so in his mind his loss is his father's fault, because he exposed his family to danger without gaining anything. It's a mix of egotism and nihilism what drives him, besides the desire to punish Thomas Sr. for his good deed what made Thomas Jr. becoming the biggest criminal and de facto ruler of Gotham.
So because he can't have total control over the multiverse, Owl-Man decides to become the ultimate Nihilist and destroy everything in existence. Talk about a power trip! But let's be honest, his WHOLE team, i.e. The Crime Syndicate are just as bat-shit crazy as he is! Reminds me of a certain Marvel character whom I love: Thanos!
When i heard " You Blinked " meant plainly you too focus on the MACRO vs Batman was always focus on the details MICROCOSM. See Batman knew their difference. Remix OWLMAN was like imma stop everybody & Batman was was like Dude im just going to stop YOU!!!!!!😂😂😂😂
In regards to the abyss, I like to think that Owlman could have been good, but he did blink. He blinked and forgot the innocence of his brother, Bruce Wayne.
Which is funny because the Telltale Batman Bruce's Parents ARE Corrupt and unlike The Batman 2022 they aren't corrupt because they have no choice and want to protect Bruce but they are just Corrupt af Yet(depending of your choice) Batman still became Batman
I truly appreciate how no matter what Owlman is a constant. If Batman exists then Owlman exists. Same cannot be said for the Batman Who Laughs according to the Dark Knights comics
Real quick on pre-52 batman he found joe chill who is the man that killed tomas and martha wayne, anyway so he found him, went to his house and beat the dog shit outta this man and left, then he came the next night and joe had better security he still got in unnoticed and beat the breaks off this man, came over and over for like a week or 2 each night the security was better than the last night and he did just to beat his ass, anyway the last time batman came after beat joe chill within an inch of his life joe asks him "why don't you kill me?" And batman takes off his mask and says something like "because you made me, and I want you to know I can get to you anytime anywhere" and he leaves. Joe offed himself. Anyway that whole thing was retconned after new-53, and flashpoint and what not but was still one of the best batman stories I've ever read
I think your points are really great. Our man is an interesting look at Batman's determination to rid crime for control. How about you talk about flashes Berry Allen OJ? Garrick Wally West. The difference is between them and how they did their superhero career but all under the same mantle
one could argue that Bruce is the one who blinked, now I understand this is very much a meta thing, but Bruce fights for what amounts to nothing changing. The status quo. Owlman wants a change so total and complete it would wipe out that Abyss. (Along with literally everything else.) A personification of active nihilism (if we're invoking Nietzsche.)
The crazy thing is. Ithought they would be kind of closer . Thomas og plan was to kill his parents with Bruce not kill Bruce too. So ididnt understand why seeing Bruce wouldn't wake him up . Like lord batman in the Justice lords
The crisis on two earths owlman never had a backstory on being bruce wayne's brother Pretty sure that was only in a later comic version of the character
I would like to share my point of view the connection of Owlman & Batman Beyond. First Thomas Wayne Jr. (Owlman) is the Eldest Son of the Wayne Family & Terry Mcginnis is also the Eldest Son of his Family. Terry Mcginnis was raised by parents that were Psychologically Identical to Bruce's Parents. Does that mean that Terry Mcginnis represents as Thomas Wayne Jr. in Project Batman Beyond? Whereas, Matt McGinnis (Younger Brother) represents Bruce Wayne in the McGinnis Family?
Him and the Batman who laughs are the best evil reflections of Batman in different ways now sure we can say who’s better. But to be honest they’re great in different ways
Well... In my personal "multiverse*... I have Earth Prime plus 1 thru 12. (This is based on the old original DC+MARVEL "extra sized " crossover with Superman and Spiderman and company.... With some other inspirations thrown in....) I have "dark vigilantes" counterparts... not Bat variants. But Owl Man is one of them. He is a counterpart...not a variant.
This is cool. Bruce having a brother. My son and I get these ideas where we have owl man and the court of owls going against batman and the league of assassins.
Owlman's plan to destroy the multiverse by destroying wouldn't have worked anyway, you can't destroy a forest by cutting down the first tree then go home, every choice and every action has a parallel existence, so where we see the worlds were he failed, there should be a world were he succeeded, but no, the multiverse is still going, still expanding, still changing, he was right, nothing he dose matters.
funny enough Owl man was right in the larger context of crisis on infinite earths movie series. The "multiverse" was set in motion due to the actions of John Constantine. In the movie Justice League Dark Apokolips War at the ending where the earth was basically in ruin due to Dark Seid. John tells the flash that he knows what the flash must due-Clean the slate and start again. The flash ends up going to Apokolips to when Dark Seid was a baby to unalive him. The flash couldn't bring him self to do it however John already thought of this so he used a spell that basically brings death wherever he goes. What ends up happening is that Dark Seid was a fixed time in the universe, He had to exist. The universe ends up branching into two versions where one he did where he didn't and from there every significant event caused a split in the universe. Long story short the universe has antibody's and wanted to erase the reality's that were being created like a cancer because the universe would end up collapsing if not. Owl man in some context knew that reality and the multiverse kept growing like a cancer where nothing really mattered because on a different earth there was the opposite choice taken and such.
I don't think it's about the consequence of the action so much as it is about Owlman's free will. What Owlman wants is control, not just over others, but of himself. He wants free will. Because every choice is the product of a choice made in another universe, Owlman thinks, no one is able to make choices of their own free will and so no one is able to control anything. On Earth Prime, however, this isn't the case. There, Owlman thinks he can make the only choice that can matter at all (because it is the only choice which can be made freely): To destroy the multiverse. Owlman wishes to choose to destroy choice and the lack of control it causes.
Every decision we've ever made, there is always a pair of cross roads. Most people live their whole lives unaware of these cross roads and make a series of decisions consistent with their moral code, religious beliefs, or philosophical understanding of the world. But have you ever wondered what would happen if you went the other direction? What if you were more ambitious, what if you were more greedy, what if you were a better liar? That's who Owlman is, he is Bruce if he decided at one point in his life to go the other direction.
Don’t think it was that much different. There are versions of Batman where Thomas Sr & Martha are corrupt too. Yes, Owlman was created to ponder some of these questions, but *not* for us to empathize with him. Decent video, other than repeating yourself 15 times lol.
Just imagine Owlman really existing in real life in today's world. And was able to have some sort of the device that he built to take us all out. That man is dangerous. Lol. Glad it's only fiction. And not fact.
Owlman: We share blood. We are not brothers.
Batman: Then I will not regret your defeat.
Owlman is a great villain pre-52. The Batman Who Laughs is just plot armor filled, edge lord garbage who defeats everyone off panel.
No matter the universe, Owls hunt Bats.
-Owlman
@@Gsmooth84 “It doesn’t matter.”
"The Batman Who Laughs is The Batman Who Always Wins"
The Batman who laughs is not even a real character. He's just a concept.
the story he is in isn't the best but the character design and the idea of a batman who has the insanity of the joker is quite interesting but owl man in the comics is not an evil batman (Bruce Wayne)
I find it ironic that owlmans plan if executed, would ultimately lead to nothing(in line with nothing matters), but his decision to do that incited others to stop him.
Kind of thwarting the whole "nothing matters besides *this* decision" idea, which in itself matters.
He created a situation and circumstances where it does actually matter in the entire grand scheme of things. Momentarily destabilizing the entire multiverses fate.
In the end, Owlman said that Batman stopping him did not matter. That implies that there were multiverses where Owlman succeeded and ones where he did not. Perhaps that is the way out of this conundrum.
@@isaacclark9825 I don't understand, so in the DC cosmology there's multiverses of multiverses?
@@savageshot3723 Maybe. I postulated it as a way to give Owlman's statement meaning. Perhaps he was just delusional.
@@isaacclark9825 I imagine he'd go to the top of the ladder if there were multiverses of multiverses, as he was trying to erase all of existence
His final statement still has meaning though, he held onto his deluded perverted ideology till the end, not seeing the irony in everything he did.
I think of his final statement as a shallow surface level acceptance of defeat, and perhaps nothing matters *to him only now* as he will be deceased. Maybe in that last second he had a revelation of sorts, a moment of clarity.
It's rough for me to understand him, but that may be the point. It just doesn't matter.
I'm not certain lol
@@isaacclark9825 Owlman couldn't succeed -- this is because the Earth is still here. Many realities are still here. If even one of the other versions of himself succeeded, then the rest of the multiverse would have been destroyed already. But as shown thus far, the multiverse is still here and kicking (expanding with more choices).
It means Owlman (no matter the versions) couldn't destroy Earth prime or he never could find Earth prime to begin with. OR his conclusion about "by destroying Earth prime, then the rest of the multiverse will get destroyed" is incorrect from the beginning. In conclusion, Owlman's quest to destroy every reality is doomed to fail from the start.
Imagine if Bruce trained under the Court of Owls.
Batman on undead super roids? He’s basically a talon but better
He was trained buy the league of assassin ras al gul
That actually happened on Gotham. They weren't the only people who trained him of course but they did train him as a fighter
@@thatsmenigu1954 not true actually this is a common misconception
@@MILDMONSTER1234it is true just not for every adaptation. its the most fitting origin (imo) but i understand how batman begins couldve butchered it for someone who’s invested in the comics.
Did Owlman’s Universe have a “Court of Bats” instead of a “Court of Owls” !
I'm not sure, but that would be kinda cool
@ComicCasualVideos maybe one day.
In the new frontier owlman is the leader of the court of owl on earth 3 and have his owm talons
maybe a league of bats
Guano Apes
Owlman is the perfect showing of someone who feels so empty he would destory the multiverse just so he knows he did something of his own free will.
Him and Ulquiorra from bleach pretty much show why it's horrifying to find yourself at the bottom of the abyss or detached from everything
Plus like gods and monsters batman owlman can stand on his own as a character
Owlman's plan to destroy the multiverse by destroying the prime wouldn't have worked anyway, you can't destroy a forest by cutting down the first tree then go home, every choice and every action has a parallel existence, so where we see the worlds were he failed, there should be a world were he succeeded, but no, the multiverse is still going, still expanding, still changing, he was right, nothing he dose matters.
A tick sucking up all the blood from an elephant only to pop when taking too much. Not apt, but strong enough.
That first part gamme chills
Owl Man: Didn't I kill you, Bruce?
Batman: What?
Owl Man: What?
Owlman: "I am your older brother."
Batman: "No. No. Its that not true. THATS ITS IMPOSSIBLE."
Owlman: "Search my background, you know that its true."
Batman: "NOOOOOOOOOOOO."
Speaking of owl, man, and feel free to do your own take on this if you want, but I think it would’ve been cool. If instead of killing the justice league, the suicide squad game is about killing the crime syndicate.
That way, you can rescue a defeated justice league and have fun these imposters and pissing on their corpses
Ooooooo I like that from you! I for sure will do a video on that!
@@ComicCasualVideos
Thanks. Seeing as brainiac is depicted as a multi verse threat in the Arkham universe, I’d tell you it would make sense that he would just recruit a version of the justice league from another universe to be his puppets. so choosing the crime syndicate would be a good option (not to mention in the comics Ultraman is actually powered by kryptonite and weak to sunlight. so the scene where Superman got stabbed with kryptonite but survived would actually make sense in this version and between you and me, I have a better time accepting the idea Ultraman could get hit focused light guns rather than bullets since sunlight will naturally be moving at the speed of light.)
Hey fun fact a LEGO GAME did that well not killing them but beating the crime syndicate yes a LEGO GAME for KIDS made a better job then a pg13 game for adults that is embarrassing
Owlman is just batman who joined the court of owls
No. Batman is a man who has already decided on what is right. Owlman searched for meaning and found NOTHING.
@@RaymondFarinas-su3dy in death metal comics. There were 3 clans. Bird, owl, and bat. The batman we got joined the bat club. Owlman was practically taken by the owl clan is what im saying, but i get what you're saying though
@@comedyvibez3892there was a lil Wayne Joke here, but this might not be the place for that.
Funny enough, in the Batman Who Laughs series, laughs is killing and gathering DNA from alternate Bruce Wayne's from the Dark Multiverse. He eventually came across one variant that was trained by the Court and became their leader. He was stated by Laughs that he was one of the variants he looked forward to the most before killing him off panel.
I've always considered Owlman to be his own character.alternate Batman or not.hes a GREAT character
Isn't he the paradox? Thomas Wayne Jr. Older brother, that was born only in Earth 3.
He’s pretty much the only evil Batman who’s stuck the landing and actually good. Wrath, Hush, Talon, Prometheus, and more subtle evil batmen like Azrael, Lockup, Ghostmaker (I know he’s not evil but still) have never really made a big splash. Sure there’s Zur but he was ruined and I don’t even wanna talk about Batkek. I know there’s probably like a billion other attempts at an evil Batman I missed too
Owlman: "It doesn't matter."
Batman: "Saves Martha."
Owlman: 😢 It does matter.
Did Owlman’s Universe have a “Court of Bats” instead of a “Court of Owls” ?
I was thinking of the same thing
Same
I hope we can explore more about their universe
Owl man is Basically Batman if Bruce never had Alfred
Funny enough, he does have his own Alfred.
@@KevinTheKevinableI think that highlights the influence of Alfred even more.
Bruce/Thomas will alwaye fall in line with the morality of their respective Alfreds
He's not Bruce though
Owlman's "alfred" wasn't like Bruce's,so Metaphorically speaking I understand what you meant by that.
Analog horror Batman vibes 💀
said it before and imma say it again:
the scariest villains are the ones who don't care if they win or lose, they simply want to do something that might make a difference to them, but if they fail? oh well, bleach has a very similar villain i've forgotten his name!!
ulqiorra . I kinda hope he was more fleshed out like why he is so loyal to aizen
They both looked into the same abyss, Bruce looked deep into it & saw forgiveness s as long with Alfredo raising him; because remember Thomas Whyne wasn’t all that clean🤷🏽♂️
Thomas Whyne JR-Owl Man looked into the abyss & blinked & never saw forgiveness just darkness & he didn’t have Alfred so nothing really matters 2him
Owl Man stated it doesn’t matter ‘cause he still exists in another universe or time line
And also the abyss was the snyderverse
@@antoniojones5109 Yes, but I also think he thought he was the best of all the time-line’s Owl-Men !
Who’s Alfredo?
Owl Man is much more then an "Evil Batman" and glad you and a few others talk about this because this makes him a fascinating villain/ character
100% been wanting to do this video for a while! I love Owlman, he is super dope!
It’s crazy how yah swear he’s “more” but do a pretty poor job at portraying what yah “feel” like this video didn’t change what I knew and thought ab him in the slightest 😅😂
Batman who laughs sucks
Batman who laughs: well (keeps ranting for hours like ledgers joker or zamasu from dragon ball super)
OWLMAN: all of what you said doesn't matter
Bwl: 😳😭😭 you don't have to be this mean!!!
@@genesismultiverse4896Wow bro, that was really funny.
@@thehale_ thanks
Agreed
He actually died cause of owlman, he betrayed
I have nothing against the person who currently voiced Batman in the "Crisis on Two Earth's movie, but how much more impactful would that scene with Owlman and Batman would have been had Kevin Conroy (R.I.P.) did the Batman voice? I only say it because James Woods killed it with the Owlman voice. Never expected the Owlman to sound "that" good.
No matter how many new owlman dc will keep making this one will always be the best
As a person who only saw the animated movie I appreciate this deep dive into who this character was
Owlman is the Embodiment of Nihilism and Nothingness.
So he is like the nothing from never ending story
and misanthropy
@@vinylrecord1102 what's misanthropy?
@@genesismultiverse4896 the dislike, contempt, or hatred of humanity. Wikipedia gives a good read about it.
@@vinylrecord1102 oh
Not to mention Owlman has a pretty sick costume. Love the scales and the owl mask
Still not close to Batman so why like someone who’s a VERSION of the main one😂 I mean if you had your top 5 hell even top 10 your not gonna add a copy and paste of a superhero just his evil ALTERNATE version😂
what you made me realize is that owlman should’ve realised that his plan wouldn’t work because if it did owlman wouldn’t exist from the start. that is such a cool concept, the existence alone of a true dicision contradicts that decision itself, because if it were possible at the same it wouldn’t be. amazing writing fr
Hey everyone; heres a fun tidbit...
Thomas Wayne Sr. (Batman) doesn't know about Thomas Wayne Jr. (Owlman) and that can be the the most fucked story for Bruce.
the batman from frashpoint
Owlman is the coolest. Actually love the Crime Syndicate. He's one of my favorite characters. The animated movie did him the most justice, also "EARTH 2"
If that version it's not the one from the new 52 then I don't know wich one is, but it doesn't make that much sense that he turns evil when he knows his parents weren't good people.
The original Squadron Supreme's Nighthawk actually becomes a hero because he found out after his father's death that he was a corrupt businessman.
Grant Morrison's version of Owlman is much more interesting. His mom and brother (his Earth's Bruce) are murdered and he learns as a young boy that they died because his dad was going to testify against a monster, so in his mind his loss is his father's fault, because he exposed his family to danger without gaining anything. It's a mix of egotism and nihilism what drives him, besides the desire to punish Thomas Sr. for his good deed what made Thomas Jr. becoming the biggest criminal and de facto ruler of Gotham.
Antimatter Owlman and infinite Frontier suits are 🔥
I honestly think Crisis on 2 Earths was Peak Owlman costume
@@BloodEdgeExtreme2000 Close third for me
So because he can't have total control over the multiverse, Owl-Man decides to become the ultimate Nihilist and destroy everything in existence. Talk about a power trip! But let's be honest, his WHOLE team, i.e. The Crime Syndicate are just as bat-shit crazy as he is! Reminds me of a certain Marvel character whom I love: Thanos!
I don't think the rest of the crime syndicate wanted to be erased too though!
Even when the crime syndicate are asked to help, they basically unalive themselfs
Batman looked into the same abyss. The abyss is hopelessness
So the snyderverse 🥁🥁📀
Grim Knight is a personal favorite of mine
When i heard " You Blinked " meant plainly you too focus on the MACRO vs Batman was always focus on the details MICROCOSM. See Batman knew their difference. Remix OWLMAN was like imma stop everybody & Batman was was like Dude im just going to stop YOU!!!!!!😂😂😂😂
In regards to the abyss, I like to think that Owlman could have been good, but he did blink. He blinked and forgot the innocence of his brother, Bruce Wayne.
Owl man Thomas Wayne jr is severely underused
A crime syndicate origin movie or series would be cool
Jason Todd would be proud of Owl Man.
Has many similarities that's for sure
I doubt it since he's a villain who wants to destroy universes.
No since OWLMAN is more extreme and care less on citizens
hell nah he'd be disgusted in owlman😂😂
If there is a Owl man does that mean there is a court of bats?
They should have just called him night owl
THE ONE FROM WATCHMEN 😂 but his name is niteowl
He also happens to be Batman
's older brother
Awesome video, I loved this version of Owl Man
This video and your insight was well put together, subbed
Which is funny because the Telltale Batman Bruce's Parents ARE Corrupt and unlike The Batman 2022 they aren't corrupt because they have no choice and want to protect Bruce but they are just Corrupt af
Yet(depending of your choice) Batman still became Batman
You put into words why i love Owlman. Excellent video.
Great video Comic Casual :]
Bruce was dropping babyface Ray bars on owl man ass 🤣
I truly appreciate how no matter what Owlman is a constant. If Batman exists then Owlman exists. Same cannot be said for the Batman Who Laughs according to the Dark Knights comics
Your concept makes zero sense tho😂 you might like it but it doesn’t mean it adds up 😂
Real quick on pre-52 batman he found joe chill who is the man that killed tomas and martha wayne, anyway so he found him, went to his house and beat the dog shit outta this man and left, then he came the next night and joe had better security he still got in unnoticed and beat the breaks off this man, came over and over for like a week or 2 each night the security was better than the last night and he did just to beat his ass, anyway the last time batman came after beat joe chill within an inch of his life joe asks him "why don't you kill me?" And batman takes off his mask and says something like "because you made me, and I want you to know I can get to you anytime anywhere" and he leaves. Joe offed himself. Anyway that whole thing was retconned after new-53, and flashpoint and what not but was still one of the best batman stories I've ever read
No one "needs" to mug people to survive. There are choices, right and wrong.
I think your points are really great. Our man is an interesting look at Batman's determination to rid crime for control. How about you talk about flashes Berry Allen OJ? Garrick Wally West. The difference is between them and how they did their superhero career but all under the same mantle
one could argue that Bruce is the one who blinked, now I understand this is very much a meta thing, but Bruce fights for what amounts to nothing changing. The status quo. Owlman wants a change so total and complete it would wipe out that Abyss. (Along with literally everything else.) A personification of active nihilism (if we're invoking Nietzsche.)
What about owl man from watchmen. Are these the same one?
No. He is an amalgam of Blue Bettle and Batman.
The crazy thing is. Ithought they would be kind of closer . Thomas og plan was to kill his parents with Bruce not kill Bruce too. So ididnt understand why seeing Bruce wouldn't wake him up . Like lord batman in the Justice lords
Isn’t in the main universe owl man Bruce’s brother who was kidnapped by the court of owls and raised by them
Yeah but we don’t know if that’s really him however I believe it is because of owlman
Can you do a video on Injustice supergirl if she was on Earth without any interference do you think she could have saved her cousin
Why bro sound like an Alternate version of Angry Joe?? Great Vid. Keep it up!!
Owlman > The Batman Who Laughs
All it takes, is one bad day!
The crisis on two earths owlman never had a backstory on being bruce wayne's brother
Pretty sure that was only in a later comic version of the character
I would like to share my point of view the connection of Owlman & Batman Beyond. First Thomas Wayne Jr. (Owlman) is the Eldest Son of the Wayne Family & Terry Mcginnis is also the Eldest Son of his Family. Terry Mcginnis was raised by parents that were Psychologically Identical to Bruce's Parents. Does that mean that Terry Mcginnis represents as Thomas Wayne Jr. in Project Batman Beyond? Whereas, Matt McGinnis (Younger Brother) represents Bruce Wayne in the McGinnis Family?
Owlman story against the court of bats what a great story… 5/20/24
Didn't an alternate version of Alfred Pennyworth and Thomas Wayne Jr. kill Martha, Thomas, and a young Bruce Wayne?
[Nevermind, I was a tad early.]
Nihilist Batman would be a great movie antagonist, with or without the Crime Syndicate
Him and the Batman who laughs are the best evil reflections of Batman in different ways now sure we can say who’s better. But to be honest they’re great in different ways
Awesome.. thanks for your video
Well... In my personal "multiverse*...
I have Earth Prime plus 1 thru 12.
(This is based on the old original DC+MARVEL "extra sized " crossover with Superman and Spiderman and company.... With some other inspirations thrown in....)
I have "dark vigilantes" counterparts... not Bat variants. But Owl Man is one of them. He is a counterpart...not a variant.
This is cool. Bruce having a brother. My son and I get these ideas where we have owl man and the court of owls going against batman and the league of assassins.
Is tht the same owl dude from the other dc universe w dr Manhattan n rorschach?
not that is charleston character
Owlman's plan to destroy the multiverse by destroying wouldn't have worked anyway, you can't destroy a forest by cutting down the first tree then go home, every choice and every action has a parallel existence, so where we see the worlds were he failed, there should be a world were he succeeded, but no, the multiverse is still going, still expanding, still changing, he was right, nothing he dose matters.
A mugger is not a desperate person to feel sympathy for.
As a kid I thought Owlman is what Batman could of been if the Court of Owls got to Bruce.
As Owl man would say, "It doesn't matter".
Why did you disable the like count, if I may ask?
I have a great idea! The Owlman Who Laughs!!! You're welcome, DC, you can send me a million dollars now. 🤣🤣🤣
Well, technically, he’s not even a Batman at all since he’s technically Bruce Wayne’s brother from a different dimension
This is sort of what happens to batman in the telltale games, but obviously he doesnt turn out evil in the end
funny enough Owl man was right in the larger context of crisis on infinite earths movie series. The "multiverse" was set in motion due to the actions of John Constantine. In the movie Justice League Dark Apokolips War at the ending where the earth was basically in ruin due to Dark Seid. John tells the flash that he knows what the flash must due-Clean the slate and start again. The flash ends up going to Apokolips to when Dark Seid was a baby to unalive him. The flash couldn't bring him self to do it however John already thought of this so he used a spell that basically brings death wherever he goes. What ends up happening is that Dark Seid was a fixed time in the universe, He had to exist. The universe ends up branching into two versions where one he did where he didn't and from there every significant event caused a split in the universe. Long story short the universe has antibody's and wanted to erase the reality's that were being created like a cancer because the universe would end up collapsing if not. Owl man in some context knew that reality and the multiverse kept growing like a cancer where nothing really mattered because on a different earth there was the opposite choice taken and such.
It doesn’t matter
nothing matters.
Nothing matters
Another version of me didn't like that comment.
Did you jack BatSpecter?
I think this video came out first
this video is speaking my language
I don't think it's about the consequence of the action so much as it is about Owlman's free will. What Owlman wants is control, not just over others, but of himself. He wants free will. Because every choice is the product of a choice made in another universe, Owlman thinks, no one is able to make choices of their own free will and so no one is able to control anything. On Earth Prime, however, this isn't the case. There, Owlman thinks he can make the only choice that can matter at all (because it is the only choice which can be made freely): To destroy the multiverse. Owlman wishes to choose to destroy choice and the lack of control it causes.
My favorite alternate version of Batman is Thomas Wayne.
It would be cool if in the dark nights death metal owl is the one who helps Batman and joker to beat the Batman who laughs.
Nice video.
Sorry for missing out on your Videos!
Thats a badass line.
it would be awesome if Lincoln March Owlman appeared in the Reeves Batman movies
That would be so cool!
I get what you’re saying but there’s one shouldn’t give a double murderer the benefit of the doubt.
*but one shouldn’t
Almost every point made could also be said about the batman that killed every villian in gotham and turned it into a military state.
THIS is why batman DOES NOT KILL or CROSS THE LINE......Well except this time🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Every decision we've ever made, there is always a pair of cross roads. Most people live their whole lives unaware of these cross roads and make a series of decisions consistent with their moral code, religious beliefs, or philosophical understanding of the world. But have you ever wondered what would happen if you went the other direction? What if you were more ambitious, what if you were more greedy, what if you were a better liar? That's who Owlman is, he is Bruce if he decided at one point in his life to go the other direction.
Batman red death is my favorite evil version.
Please make a cartoon or live show of this man
Don’t think it was that much different. There are versions of Batman where Thomas Sr & Martha are corrupt too. Yes, Owlman was created to ponder some of these questions, but *not* for us to empathize with him. Decent video, other than repeating yourself 15 times lol.
Owlman's desighn is so mukch worse than Batman's. Being a child and seeing this move it was the thing that bugged imediatly.
Same owlman from watchmen?
Just imagine Owlman really existing in real life in today's world. And was able to have some sort of the device that he built to take us all out. That man is dangerous. Lol. Glad it's only fiction. And not fact.
There is a criminal Owlman in Marvel too.
The thumnail get the eye ratio right lol 😆 😂
I thought Owlman killed his brother?