Our plane spotting crew covered the fire for 2 consecutive days and started streaming a half hour after the Palisades fire started and covered it for the rest of the day as it exploded... LAX was running reverse ops. I lived in Oakland during the 1991 Oakland firestorm and have been in Escondid, CA and experienced the 2007 Witch fire and evacuation. This series of fire in Los Angeles are unprecedented. Please pray for Los Angeles and surrounding counties.
I lived through several fires in Sonoma County from 2017 to 2020. The firefighters and all first responders are heroes. I saw fixed wing aircraft and helicopters dropping water and/or fire retardant every day for weeks. I really feel for those who are going through it in Southern California.
Good luck getting the Governor to sign off CalFire contracted pilots to use NVG and FLIR. The cut off time for wheels on deck has been "Pumpkin Time" 30 minutes after the sun hits the horizon. Also, morning operations for the first event take-off are always delayed after 0800 due to meetings and briefs. USFS and BLM assets are scattered to the wind until their contracts are honored starting in May. Not to mention shipping in more retardant to drop red stuff on dead stuff. Tanking in retardant from Eagle, Idaho is an 18 hour, team drive per truck.
Yea Imagine they had it right now or a few. Would probably be a different outcome. There were larger fires that were contained faster maybe that was in part because of the 747.
@@Maxdubi They were difficult to use in terrain. They did work the Camp Fire, but were obviously not miracle tools. They are also difficult to service since they are limited in where they can fly out of and large airports don’t tend to have the ground equipment to load them up with retardant. Bigger may sound better, but it meant longer routes from where they could load up to where they were needed. That means fewer sorties and so sometimes less retardant per flight hour. S2-Ts could fly out of Chico where they were based. The 747 might have had to come from McClellan, the Cal Fire maintenance base and a former Air Force base, a few hundred miles south. Great for the airshow, not so great for efficient use of resources.
@@Markle2k It’s Los Angeles, with plenty of airports big enough to refill her, and she was based in the middle of the country, making it a couple of hours away. And again, *25,000 gallons* per trip. The only issue would have been the terrain and could they fly low enough to keep the water or retardant from being blown away by the wind. I saw videos of her flying low and slow with those biga$$ flaps all the way out, soaking a football field wide swath almost half a mile long. Somewhere there was a DC-10 also; I’m not sure if it’s still in service either.
I just subscribed to Brian's channel I've been a long-time follower of Juan Browne ever since I started watching his channel when he did the Orville Lake, where the main media got it completely wrong. I'm not a pilot; I've only flown about five times, but I'm interested in aviation, and he makes me feel more comfortable about flying.
We have a close friend who Works for Cal Fire at McClellan Field in Sacramento and is a navigator and electrician. He told me that they sent one C130 down to LA and he’s working on another one on the drop tanks right now so he’s still in Sacramento. They need him up here, but he said if the plane breaks down, he will be going down there to LA.
That C-130 is the only one that they have. They have 6 more in the pipeline to be converted to a higher standard than the temporary MAFFS system, but they are basically being rebuilt to make them dedicated fire fighters.
During the high winds planes were able to fly. Heavy smoke for a visibility reason if the smoke is bad enough tankkers can't make their drops fearing mountains.
A new fire pooped up the Chatsworth area of the Valley, last I heard it quickly spread to 900 acres, They have a suspect they caught starting it with a torch.
Up here in Oregon, but I totally get off on mapping and have done fire fighting in heavy forest, rural and city. If there is a spot there that needs attention, contact me.
We all saw the aerial footage of the fires. So why wasn't there emergency planes and helicopters dumping water and repellent when possible? To have news helicopters flying but no Emergency choppers is unexcusable!
News helicopters are flying at a much higher altitude to get that footage for you. Tanker planes and helitankers have to fly much closer to the ground to drop their water or retardant, the airspace is much more congested, there are hazards like powerlines, canyons which cause winds to switch directions constantly, super heated columns of air from the fire can cause aircraft engines to “flame out” or stall adding to the danger. It can be very unforgiving. Comparing the environment a news helicopter is flying in to the environment a firefighting aircraft is flying in is like comparing apples and oranges. As a Sikorsky Skycrane crew chief, I flew on many fires for Cal Fire this year from Mariposa down to Coalinga, and even on smaller fires in good conditions (light winds, good visibility) it can be a very hectic/dangerous environment.
Im listening on scanner and Fr24. A lot of traffic is configuring aircraft and calling for drops. As I'm writing this there are 16 choppers in the area but fixed wing are all on the ground. They're having a big problem with drones forcing aborts on water drops. This isn't being reported that I've seen but they're dispatching law enforcement to the areas. If you want to face tired angry cops covered in soot, go fly a drone there. Water has been taken from the ocean but they more recently have been reloading at the Encino reservoir. The choppers are using IR heavily. Also a number of UAVs with IR are flying. Problem is one pass will yield hundreds of hot spots.
@TakingOff Radio traffic is dropping for aircraft. But now flare ups are being dispatched in batches of like 3. It felt like they were gaining on it but now winds are showing 40-50mph. No recent reports of drones though. In remote areas, propane tank explosions are a problem.
@@Maxdubi Direct observation. I can't post images here. ADS-B data has a ton of scoops. We're talking ground speed 99 at 0 agl or similar. Folks shot video as well.
Let's see how well biden 3.0 will take care of the people. As he did with Lahana & Asheville, enjoy your $750. Keep voting liberal folks that seem to be working!
Our plane spotting crew covered the fire for 2 consecutive days and started streaming a half hour after the Palisades fire started and covered it for the rest of the day as it exploded... LAX was running reverse ops. I lived in Oakland during the 1991 Oakland firestorm and have been in Escondid, CA and experienced the 2007 Witch fire and evacuation. This series of fire in Los Angeles are unprecedented. Please pray for Los Angeles and surrounding counties.
Thanks for your work.
@@TakingOff No.. Thank you for YOUR work.
I lived through several fires in Sonoma County from 2017 to 2020. The firefighters and all first responders are heroes. I saw fixed wing aircraft and helicopters dropping water and/or fire retardant every day for weeks. I really feel for those who are going through it in Southern California.
Good luck getting the Governor to sign off CalFire contracted pilots to use NVG and FLIR. The cut off time for wheels on deck has been "Pumpkin Time" 30 minutes after the sun hits the horizon. Also, morning operations for the first event take-off are always delayed after 0800 due to meetings and briefs.
USFS and BLM assets are scattered to the wind until their contracts are honored starting in May. Not to mention shipping in more retardant to drop red stuff on dead stuff. Tanking in retardant from Eagle, Idaho is an 18 hour, team drive per truck.
Good morning from Minnesota! Great update
The Super Scoopers are cool, but I really miss the Evergreen Supertanker. That 747 could dump nearly 25,000 gallons in seconds.
Yea Imagine they had it right now or a few. Would probably be a different outcome. There were larger fires that were contained faster maybe that was in part because of the 747.
@@Maxdubi They were difficult to use in terrain. They did work the Camp Fire, but were obviously not miracle tools. They are also difficult to service since they are limited in where they can fly out of and large airports don’t tend to have the ground equipment to load them up with retardant. Bigger may sound better, but it meant longer routes from where they could load up to where they were needed. That means fewer sorties and so sometimes less retardant per flight hour. S2-Ts could fly out of Chico where they were based. The 747 might have had to come from McClellan, the Cal Fire maintenance base and a former Air Force base, a few hundred miles south.
Great for the airshow, not so great for efficient use of resources.
@@Markle2k It’s Los Angeles, with plenty of airports big enough to refill her, and she was based in the middle of the country, making it a couple of hours away. And again, *25,000 gallons* per trip. The only issue would have been the terrain and could they fly low enough to keep the water or retardant from being blown away by the wind. I saw videos of her flying low and slow with those biga$$ flaps all the way out, soaking a football field wide swath almost half a mile long.
Somewhere there was a DC-10 also; I’m not sure if it’s still in service either.
I just subscribed to Brian's channel I've been a long-time follower of Juan Browne ever since I started watching his channel when he did the Orville Lake, where the main media got it completely wrong. I'm not a pilot; I've only flown about five times, but I'm interested in aviation, and he makes me feel more comfortable about flying.
Yeah I love Juan’s channel. And Bryan has some really great stuff.
We have a close friend who Works for Cal Fire at McClellan Field in Sacramento and is a navigator and electrician. He told me that they sent one C130 down to LA and he’s working on another one on the drop tanks right now so he’s still in Sacramento. They need him up here, but he said if the plane breaks down, he will be going down there to LA.
That C-130 is the only one that they have. They have 6 more in the pipeline to be converted to a higher standard than the temporary MAFFS system, but they are basically being rebuilt to make them dedicated fire fighters.
Thank you for this, as always.
Thank you for your coverage.
They have to wait for permits and environmental impact studies before scooping any water from the ocean. Give’em another 15 to 18 years or so.
During the high winds planes were able to fly. Heavy smoke for a visibility reason if the smoke is bad enough tankkers can't make their drops fearing mountains.
A new fire pooped up the Chatsworth area of the Valley, last I heard it quickly spread to 900 acres, They have a suspect they caught starting it with a torch.
Ofcourse. “Suspect”. Theylll find out who contracted him and then they’ll even give him some tax money as a thank you
Up here in Oregon, but I totally get off on mapping and have done fire fighting in heavy forest, rural and city. If there is a spot there that needs attention, contact me.
👍✅ You are just giving us clear unbiased coverage of all these events Dan but if feels like nonstop bad news lately.
Yeah lately been bad. Hopefully ca cover better stories soon.
Hundreds of buildings ? How about thousands of buildings ? Just to be a little more precise. I think we are up to a dozen fatalities at this point.
We all saw the aerial footage of the fires.
So why wasn't there emergency planes and helicopters dumping water and repellent when possible?
To have news helicopters flying but no Emergency choppers is unexcusable!
Juan explains that
News helicopters are flying at a much higher altitude to get that footage for you. Tanker planes and helitankers have to fly much closer to the ground to drop their water or retardant, the airspace is much more congested, there are hazards like powerlines, canyons which cause winds to switch directions constantly, super heated columns of air from the fire can cause aircraft engines to “flame out” or stall adding to the danger. It can be very unforgiving. Comparing the environment a news helicopter is flying in to the environment a firefighting aircraft is flying in is like comparing apples and oranges. As a Sikorsky Skycrane crew chief, I flew on many fires for Cal Fire this year from Mariposa down to Coalinga, and even on smaller fires in good conditions (light winds, good visibility) it can be a very hectic/dangerous environment.
Can you even fly in Dallas tonight??????? People think we’re crazy living in the Midwest!!! 😂
Nope. They have fire, we have ice.
Im listening on scanner and Fr24. A lot of traffic is configuring aircraft and calling for drops. As I'm writing this there are 16 choppers in the area but fixed wing are all on the ground.
They're having a big problem with drones forcing aborts on water drops. This isn't being reported that I've seen but they're dispatching law enforcement to the areas. If you want to face tired angry cops covered in soot, go fly a drone there.
Water has been taken from the ocean but they more recently have been reloading at the Encino reservoir.
The choppers are using IR heavily. Also a number of UAVs with IR are flying. Problem is one pass will yield hundreds of hot spots.
Wow
@TakingOff Radio traffic is dropping for aircraft. But now flare ups are being dispatched in batches of like 3. It felt like they were gaining on it but now winds are showing 40-50mph. No recent reports of drones though.
In remote areas, propane tank explosions are a problem.
They’re using ocean water? Who said? They don’t have proper equipment for that.
@@Maxdubi Direct observation. I can't post images here. ADS-B data has a ton of scoops. We're talking ground speed 99 at 0 agl or similar. Folks shot video as well.
@@carolinejoybarnhart3717 weird because some fire chief said they can’t do that because it’s risky. Lol bunch of incompetent liars.
Thanks President Biden. We're going to miss you.
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Let's see how well biden 3.0 will take care of the people. As he did with Lahana & Asheville, enjoy your $750. Keep voting liberal folks that seem to be working!
That's punishment from our Lord. way too much edonism , perversity, disregard, idols...