The Tragic True Life of the Queen Swan | Babe Paley

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  • @ForgottenLives
    @ForgottenLives  10 місяців тому +14

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      @shamudogsmith1751 10 місяців тому +3

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      @aariley2 10 місяців тому

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  • @darthlaurel
    @darthlaurel 10 місяців тому +26

    Even though most of these people seem shallow or unpleasant, it is still interesting to hear how they effected the world of which they were a part.

  • @KLeonardM
    @KLeonardM 10 місяців тому +69

    Cushing's disease was named after Babe's Father the neurosurgeon

    • @maryroberts9315
      @maryroberts9315 10 місяців тому +14

      That's so interesting! Thank you for bringing that up.

    • @JauntyCrepe
      @JauntyCrepe 10 місяців тому +6

      Wow thanks for mentioning that.

    • @JoanTarpley-hx9sh
      @JoanTarpley-hx9sh 9 місяців тому +2

      Indeed.

    • @hablin1
      @hablin1 9 місяців тому +3

      That’s interesting 👍🥰

    • @totukimou
      @totukimou 8 місяців тому

      It's good to know, thank you!

  • @BriefCaseOfficial
    @BriefCaseOfficial 10 місяців тому +17

    Another great story Forgotten Lives!

    • @corinnegivens8547
      @corinnegivens8547 9 місяців тому

      Hey Mr. Case! Good to see you here 2 of my fav youtubers❤

  • @darriendastar3941
    @darriendastar3941 10 місяців тому +17

    This was really great!
    I've kept on coming across the name Barbara 'Babe' Paley in various biogrphies and autobiographies I've read and always thought I really ought to find out who she was. But I always got distracted, so this was like finding a lost piece of a jigsaw puzzle. I now understand *why* she was mentioned and understand why she was considered important/powerful in people's lives.
    Thank you so much.

  • @chickenlover657
    @chickenlover657 10 місяців тому +118

    "Socialite" - euphemism for unemployed and filthy rich.

    • @skippingstones2023
      @skippingstones2023 10 місяців тому +7

      Yes, famous just because she's famous.

    • @donnashomin357
      @donnashomin357 10 місяців тому +13

      Jealous much! Lol

    • @freciemagdirila7075
      @freciemagdirila7075 10 місяців тому +22

      You really have to understand that back then outside employment for women was a rarity and frowned at…. a women’s job/ goal was to marry and marry well.

    • @chickenlover657
      @chickenlover657 10 місяців тому +4

      @@donnashomin357 Nope, I'm an introvert, so no unnecessary socializing for me. And I have enough money to live comfortably enough.

    • @chickenlover657
      @chickenlover657 10 місяців тому

      @@freciemagdirila7075 And what made you think I don't know that?

  • @maryroberts9315
    @maryroberts9315 10 місяців тому +13

    Thank you for this. This was the peak of "New York Society" and, for good or bad, it doesn't really exist anymore. I think Gore Vidal might make an interesting subject. He was a very well known writer, political pundit and society figure of the day and very scandalous. He was known for his feuds with Capote, Norman Mailer and W.F. Buckley. He isn't much talked about these days. He is mentioned in "Feud". He was openly bisexual.

    • @JoanTarpley-hx9sh
      @JoanTarpley-hx9sh 9 місяців тому

      For a bit, he was Jackie O's "step brother." 😁😑

  • @ruthm.6071
    @ruthm.6071 9 місяців тому +2

    I have heard the name Babe Paley for many years but never knew just who she was. Thank you for this beautifully produced profile. The many original photos are amazing. Keep the episodes coming. You are a gifted storyteller and video producer.

  • @jeancristaldi8762
    @jeancristaldi8762 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this. It was lovely and fascinating. Truman Capote was fascinated by how these women made themselves and their lives into works of art. He called it an act of self creation.

  • @elizabethdaniellecatherine3998
    @elizabethdaniellecatherine3998 4 місяці тому +1

    Inside sources have informed me that she actually passed in 1974, and that her friends and family quietly covered up the loss, in order to better plan her celebration of life and to sort up some lose ends that she expressed to them that she wanted to have sorted. Several persons close to her communicated this to me, and that she had passed 3 to 6 months after the cancer diagnosis.

  • @JauntyCrepe
    @JauntyCrepe 10 місяців тому +5

    Wonderful video! Thank you for sharing. Your channel always shares stories from history that I might have otherwise never learned about.

  • @ElkeMB
    @ElkeMB 10 місяців тому +12

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  • @ricklarson392
    @ricklarson392 9 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting information on a prominent figure of a world that is now long gone. Thanks

  • @bobbyrutherford9359
    @bobbyrutherford9359 10 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for these great cases Forgotten Lives

  • @heatherb9578
    @heatherb9578 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m so glad these videos have closed captions ❤

  • @Charlotte66666
    @Charlotte66666 10 місяців тому +8

    Always wonderful content ❤

  • @Lisa59
    @Lisa59 10 місяців тому +7

    Great video but I'm wondering why Capote decided to write that book about his swans. Did he not realize he was going to screw up his good life?

    • @alisonsneed3707
      @alisonsneed3707 10 місяців тому +2

      He was compelled to love them AND hate them as he did his beautiful abusive mother. Not sure if he was blind to this or saw the connection.

    • @alisonsneed3707
      @alisonsneed3707 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MapleCheerUphe was really damaged goods, poor thing

  • @chickenlover657
    @chickenlover657 10 місяців тому +15

    I don't find her life the least bit scandalous, but rather empty and boring.

    • @melissacoelho8413
      @melissacoelho8413 10 місяців тому +1

      You can stop showing and or sharing just how envious you are.
      It’s getting very boorish. 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @chickenlover657
      @chickenlover657 10 місяців тому +3

      @@melissacoelho8413 Your projection is actually quite silly.

    • @melissacoelho8413
      @melissacoelho8413 10 місяців тому +1

      @@chickenlover657 😂😂😂😂😂 🤦🏻‍♀️ okay 👍

  • @HelenaSavicMurphy-od5un
    @HelenaSavicMurphy-od5un 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing, both about the Bebe Paley, and about the ufo 3! I have one as well and feel that most people would benefit from a little more hydration in their life

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 10 місяців тому +9

    I always LOVED your intro 🎵🎶, so befitting.

  • @ravenlass3334
    @ravenlass3334 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for sharing this. Professional and informative, as always.

  • @imoeller126
    @imoeller126 10 місяців тому +6

    Find it curious, after all mentioned, her death was left with a simple slab.

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    @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 10 місяців тому +2

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  • @Mattostar-z2d
    @Mattostar-z2d 9 місяців тому +1

    Hello Forgotten Lives. 😊 I have to catch up on on this video, sorry for being a little late. I appreciate your content since it's always contains some fascinating individuals, and details about their interesting lives. Thank you for all you do in these videos. 😁

  • @DeborahT-c2s
    @DeborahT-c2s 10 місяців тому +4

    I adore your videos ❤ Also, you are turning into an extremely handsome young man. Best of Luck.

  • @rhondajohnson8310
    @rhondajohnson8310 10 місяців тому +4

    Ahhh Babe. Great video!

  • @ericsonhazeltine5064
    @ericsonhazeltine5064 10 місяців тому +4

    Both Babe and Gloria died so young!

  • @cg6348
    @cg6348 10 місяців тому +2

    Interesting and enjoyable. Thank you.

  • @racehorsecharlie6423
    @racehorsecharlie6423 9 місяців тому

    This was fascinating, thank you!

  • @Liz-si8ue
    @Liz-si8ue 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm going to start watching Fued.

  • @peggypasson8794
    @peggypasson8794 3 місяці тому

    Truman said she was perfect just perfect

  • @marie_171
    @marie_171 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for another great video.

  • @alfredbonnabel7022
    @alfredbonnabel7022 10 місяців тому +2

    A very accurate biography of Babe Paley. ❤

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 10 місяців тому +3

    Very good. Thank you.
    ps Are you going to do all the Swans?

  • @m.f.richardson1602
    @m.f.richardson1602 9 місяців тому

    Always interesting
    Thank you❤

  • @toniadugger3954
    @toniadugger3954 10 місяців тому +2

    You got people! Production crew! Nice!

  • @BreenBreen710
    @BreenBreen710 10 місяців тому

    What an amazing Segway to the ad 😂

  • @KathleenCalhoun-em6ys
    @KathleenCalhoun-em6ys 10 місяців тому +2

    I thought Babe was a looker, but her rival--Ms. Guinness--looked even more attractive, in my opinion; but the one who tops them all is the actress who portrayed Babe. Sorry, can't remember their names. I think it goes without saying they were likely all very vain.

    • @SmilerORocker
      @SmilerORocker 8 місяців тому

      And Guinness is good for ya 😂👍🇮🇪

  • @nataliep501
    @nataliep501 10 місяців тому +1

    I subscribed to Dana's channel because i like her on your show.

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks I wonder if Truman Capote what's jealous of these women? 🤔 Just a thought.

  • @alisonsneed3707
    @alisonsneed3707 10 місяців тому +2

    Yes, I’m watching Capote vs Swans. It’s so good. The casting is spot on. So are the lines, the costuming and the sets/ locations. I finally know why Capote latched on to them and why he did them dirty. His beautiful mother aspired to be like these women but didn’t stand a chance. She had a LOT of low value men, was almost a whore & between abandonments Capote, as a boy, was in the hotel room where these liaisons took place. That’ll scar a kid for life for sure.

    • @Delete629
      @Delete629 9 місяців тому

      He was a broke jealous drunk who saw a sucker so he licked it is what I gathered. Everyone has a past that doesn’t give u a pass to hurt others

  • @guywill7875
    @guywill7875 9 годин тому

    In the 1940s, women born into rich and socially elite families were groomed to marry into other rich families. The lives of these debutantes were cotillions, coming-out balls, vacations, and education in the best schools in the country. Babe Paley was indoctrinated into the New York Society. She had the pedigree to be among the greatest socially accepted women in New York.
    Being the best-dressed woman and considered a beautiful woman. Her life was privileged. She had looks and connections. and a great wardrobe.
    Marriage would be her role as Paley's trophy. He married for the connections, pedigree, and image she could provide. Theirs was a good partnership. Her need to live up to the role must have been stressful. She was also accepting of his philandering and knew he was not interested in her sexually. Marriage in the upper echelons would need to keep up appearances, and expectations, like a business.

  • @JoanTarpley-hx9sh
    @JoanTarpley-hx9sh 9 місяців тому

    Naomi Watts absolutely nailed the role of Babe Paley in the most recent film The character study most likely involved hanging around high society balls and charity events. It's actually quite easy to master the "Newport Jaw" style of speaking. Just think Thurston Howell the Third. Conversation involves folks talking as though their jaws are wired shut. Lots of "Dahling," and "Rally," as in, "Rally, dahling, you simply MUST attend Buffy's apres ski soiree, dahling! Rally, it's absolutely the event of the SEASON!" I used to have to hobnob with the well-heeled set in our town when my husband was trying to build up his new medical practice. Additionally, our city had just opened a gorgeous center for the performing arts and I starred in at least one musical every season. The wealthy are mad for nights out at The Theatah, dahling, and the patrons/donors spare no expense on cultural events. We actors KNOW that we would have no places to perform, were it not for bored socialites that give generously. I, myself would be mega rich if I had a dollar for every blue blood woman that would sidle up to me at cocktail receptions and say, "You know, I wanted to be a serious, dramatic actress - and I think I would have been a good one - of course, Daddy would have been utterly MORTIFIED! Mummy would have disowned me!" I would think to myself, "Jeeze, lady, we're not carnies on the midway! Acting professionally is a legitimate occupation. Damn, read the room!" My mother's people were power players in state politics, so I have always rubbed shoulders with Old Money and Trust Fund Babies. Personally, I comport myself with the same level of interest and commitment to being a decent human being whether I am yachting or shooting pool in a dive bar. Billionaires don't impress me one whit. I am impressed by single mothers that go to a job each day and although money is tight, they raise fine, good hearted children. Those that operate shelters that rescue precious animals or older gentlemen that worked 45 years as a hotel porter or elevator operator and kept a jovial attitude, no matter what life challenges were off the clock. The kinds of people that take pride in what they do. Day in and day out, they show up and they are always an asset to their employer. They show up and make everyone's day brighter. That is who I admire, unheralded every day heroes.

  • @bythepricklingofmythumb7628
    @bythepricklingofmythumb7628 10 місяців тому +2

    Please do the rest of the Swans.

  • @geraldinekearney542
    @geraldinekearney542 10 місяців тому +1

    Curious to know if she was related to the fabulous actor Peter Cushing

  • @davidcopperfield-notthemag397
    @davidcopperfield-notthemag397 8 місяців тому

    CASANOVA - Can you do a video on Casanova? Thanks!

  • @spmoran4703
    @spmoran4703 10 місяців тому +1

    So stylish, some would say so beautiful , so slim , so wealthy
    So vain , so used , so empty, so fashionably lonely .
    I am glad not to be a swan . Ducks swim on the water too. Ducks survive better.

  • @Natty.Cee_3
    @Natty.Cee_3 8 місяців тому +1

    These women and their husbands, were HORRIBLE parents. My goodness.. lol.. what is the point of bringing life into this world when you know you're too selfish to care for them and end up abandoning your children . O_o

  • @jazziecat2354
    @jazziecat2354 10 місяців тому +6

    I love your Accent are you British?

    • @jennieB1973
      @jennieB1973 10 місяців тому +8

      I love his accent as well! It makes me feel classier than the lazy lump that’s eating a cupcake in bed at the moment on a Friday evening! 😂

    • @jazziecat2354
      @jazziecat2354 10 місяців тому

      🤣🤣@@jennieB1973

    • @esterherschkovich6499
      @esterherschkovich6499 10 місяців тому +2

      British yes...

  • @sarahwade7260
    @sarahwade7260 10 місяців тому +2

    OMG!£237 !!REALLY!😢

  • @mahdi5796
    @mahdi5796 10 місяців тому +5

    Misleading title. Please avoid using clickbaits

  • @deecooper1567
    @deecooper1567 9 місяців тому +1

    Well, you can’t say her life was boring for sure ! However, I don’t think she was a very happy woman. Way too much drama 🤪
    The children were just to show off at her discretion 😢 so sad 😞. 👵🏻👩‍🌾❣️

  • @ronniebar3857
    @ronniebar3857 8 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @carmenpalenske6685
    @carmenpalenske6685 9 місяців тому +1

    Why would Babe’s headstone be so, so, so bland and boring? Who did that to her and why? Sad.

  • @MDiStefano10
    @MDiStefano10 10 місяців тому +2

    OMG Those lips!! If you use UFO 3 on your lips, it's working :)

  • @houseofvanity8
    @houseofvanity8 9 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤

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    @mnoliberal7335 9 місяців тому

    Wrinkle cream 😂

  • @tinahale9252
    @tinahale9252 9 місяців тому

    And all is vanity

  • @cherylbrooks7005
    @cherylbrooks7005 10 місяців тому +1

  • @normajeancaballero7959
    @normajeancaballero7959 9 місяців тому

    👍🎦👍🎦👍🎦👍🎦👍🎦👍🎦👍🎦👍🎦👍🎦

  • @francesbernard2445
    @francesbernard2445 10 місяців тому +1

    I am getting tired of hearing the word, "Babe" being uttered by another woman from a nation in the commonewealth or whatever in a sarcastic tone. I don't believe that I am the only person alive today who feels that way.

  • @ginnyhogan6386
    @ginnyhogan6386 8 місяців тому

    DEL’ a no………..not del AH no For FDR

  • @kathyh4804
    @kathyh4804 3 місяці тому

    Truman capote was a creep.

  • @pearlfeather9326
    @pearlfeather9326 10 місяців тому +1

    Nothing fabulous about them

  • @ginnyhogan6386
    @ginnyhogan6386 8 місяців тому

    SHALLOW woman!

  • @JudyHarger-Gedeon
    @JudyHarger-Gedeon 6 місяців тому

    Are we kidding here?
    We watch (and listen to monotonous narration) for FOUR minutes only to be in COMMERCIAL?

  • @mariomazzi7894
    @mariomazzi7894 9 місяців тому

    She was average looking.

  • @barbaralamson7450
    @barbaralamson7450 10 місяців тому +1

    One has to ask, what drug are you taking? Do you naturally speak as if you are on drugs?

    • @nancywillaert5129
      @nancywillaert5129 10 місяців тому +4

      Why suggestion of drugs? Maybe if you listened well I hear a little lisp but also a other language. You wouldn’t want to hear me speaking English due its not my first’s language it’s Dutch and then French. So my English depends on the accent I hear. Never learned English at school but self learned.

    • @JauntyCrepe
      @JauntyCrepe 10 місяців тому +2

      He doesn’t!! Wow what a rude comment

  • @LightFromWithin808
    @LightFromWithin808 10 місяців тому +1