Honest to god I’ve always wanted to see someone use magnets as suspensions. You guys made my day!! Finally got that thought out my head and seen it in action
Well. It will probably pick up some Chinese RMB coins because of the material used in the coins. But not there isn't any chance it will pick any Australian coins.
Jari Sillanpää Right, no manhole covers in Russia. Those round metal looking objects imbedded in the road at 5:54, 6:55, and 7:02 must have been put there for decoration.
Yeah Russians don't have time for bull crap And they also don't take any bull crap if you put a clickbait picture you never know what will happen to you 😀
Kind of a waste of time and money if you ask me. Obviously it'll work... Crudely. The science is making it BETTER than traditional suspension and I'm not seeing any proof of that here
Dude I came up with this idea back in 94 when I was 7 years old. I never made anything, just in my head. I was so happy to see this video! Great minds think alike!
lol,... You, and at least 33 percent of the world's population, ... lol Except Trumps, ... his magnets stop working when they get wet for some reason??
Thats not how this supposed to work. Idea was, that magnetic force keep the magnets apart. And it kind of worked. The issue is, since the force weakens fast when the gap grows, so suspension travel seem to be short.
holy hell i noticed they had the posts under the suspension before the car-almost-crushing-the-guy shot even happened and thought..."nah-they'll realize" (spoiler....they didn't realize)
If you need more travel, you stick the magnets on top of each other with a thick copper pin through the middle for alignment, then encase the tall set up with oiled dampening. You can use smaller magnets and replace the existing shocks with the same dimensions.
magnets on top of eachother will not be that much of a difference I think. Better would be to use stronger magnets, because a magnet is rated its force at touching point. Within 1 or 2 centimeters the force is already a lot less. If I remember correctly the formula was: double the distance you get a fourth of the original force.
Manhole covers, kids tricycles, anvils, screws, nails, and every other bit of ferrous metal in the neighborhood with that amount of neodymium magnets strapped underneath your car. The theory is nice, but I'm sure the end results would be relatively disastrous!🤪
"Does 1 hectare to a single tank of kerosene"!! "Put it in "H"...."!
3 роки тому+20
1. Mentioned force is what you have to apply to keep them touching with the whole surface, it is greatly reduced even at a few mm distance, so they have very small travel. Such magnets are good to keep it from touching but not to act as a spring. 2. Placing them in the middle is actually creating a lot of leverage. It would work a bit better if those were installed as close to the wheels as possible.
If these magnets have noedymium cores, you probably weakened them a lot by that heat. 80°C is enough for a significant loss. I personally killed few little ones by using glue gun to attach them.
you won't break it. you'll actuate it better. I had trouble with my Suzuki motorcycle, when I would stop at a traffic light, the bike is heavy on plastic and it would not trip the sensor. I eventually tore apart a computer disk drive and installed one of the magnets in the arch area of my right boot (external). When I pull up to traffic lights I just wave my leg over the sensor wire and BAM, it works. Drawback is that it pickes up everybit of metal debris and magnetic pebbles......
QuantumRift There's a little thing that you can buy that clamps on the bottom of your motorcycle that'll trip those sensors when you pull over top of them.
@@imtrash1228 "I highly doubt it would reach the transmission" And you would be correct in that assumption. What is causing the transmission to pop out is the fact that when they took the shock absorbers and OEM springs off the car, they opened it up to all sorts of twists and bends. Those twists and bends combined with all those bumps, are what is causing the transmission to pop out of gear.
Hey Garage 54: THX for the Russian to English translation, really appreciate it, awesome videos, love the crazy ideas and possible practical implementations ;-)
you kill the field when you add HEAT to them try doin this with out welding them, but you did say there is a steel sleeve on it so maybe you did not kill the field
Good! I would suggest two things - mount the whole assembly on a pneumatic bag that would absorb the shock when the suspension is fully compressed, so the shock would not be transmitted to the chassis, and add an electromagnet on each end that would trigger in proportion to the amount of travel - as the axle went higher, a sensor would increase the current to the electromagnet, increasing the resisting force and decelerating the axle movement. That would stop the permanent magnets from banging into one another at the end of their travel, which wears out permanent magnets. Adding shock absorbers, as you mentioned, would take care of the rebound problem and damp oscillations. Good luck with the project!
But doubled and put in place of springs with articulated mounts maybe an all thread as a guide rod with heim joint end and a large nut to limit extension over travel. a steel cap with a threaded center could replace an upper spring cup and a lower plate mounted to the lower control arm you could avoid welding to the magnet, run a set of shocks and Bob's your auntie
Taskin, watch again . they did not weld ( the magnet portion ) . They drilled through the metallic center then through the square iron to provide a hole for the guide. Any welding done was not done on the magnet.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Why buy stuff when you have tons of crap laying around that you can fabricate up? Itll only take a little bit of a shitload more time than expected.
I think that was a great experiment are you evolving your ideas and trying different configurations and positions on the vehicle. The more you try the more you will discover what's working and make adjustments to improve it. Your not reinventing the wheel your improving its efficiency and effectiveness. Great job.
You should make Vertical magnetic suspension. E.g. 3magnets in a vertical guide, North-north-south-south. So the total gap is for example 20mm instead of just 10mm on each side
@@JtagSheep just following that thought pattern too, but mounted in a guide tube with the last on an extended plunger and located back in spring well...
I thought a magnet engine. Opposing pistons/magnets that can be reversed/timed via electric solenoids. Free energy. No combustion or exhaust, just magnets replacing fuel and the piston/head.
Que buen video! Nadie lo había hecho antes, es muy interesante, ojalá pudieras hacer la parte 2 o una versión mejorada de esta idea, sería un éxito, eres un genio
@@ai7136 they lifted up the car with the swingarms, and when he took out the spring and shock the whole chassis come down almost all the way to crush his hands. That was a lucky moment for the guy.
Not the best comment 😂 this is not at all how Audis magnetic ride works. It’s still a conventional shock and spring set up with only the viscosity of the fluid in the shock being affected by magnets 😂😂😂 there is no magnet to “overcome” hahah dumbass
@@1ssac1 Bose (yes, the sound device maker) made an electromagnetic suspension and tested it, you can see videos of them on UA-cam. But apparently an active system is too heavy and use too much power to be commercially used.
Welding produces a shit ton of heat and you can weld magnetized steel but you have to heat it up to u do the magnetism. Or else you can even get an arch going
The poles will invert with permanent ceramic or neodymium. You need electro magnets so you can control the magnitude of the field and not worry about flux line inversions
MustHaveChannel Jesus Christ lol. When you move iron past a copper winding it creates a voltage. Thats a simplistic view of how an alternator works. If you apply voltage to an alternator, it becomes a motor... Just as applying movement to the iron within an electromagnet’s windings creates voltage in its windings due to the movement of the magnetic field.
Awesome video. The idea is fantastic, but you would probably benefit from using an electromagnetic setup, reversing polarity. Have them wired up to the car battery or a separate power source within the car.
You know what? I am hooked on your video's. It's awesome to see an business owner with a little humor, and curiosity, and then video it. Thank You for your work. Ignore the idiots that thumbs down everything their jealous of in life. Super trains use magnets to hover.
It works pretty well for a first prototype, maybe with other types of magnets in a Halbach configuration and some diamagnetic container that protect the magnets from attracting things and redirect the magnetic field even more, the suspension could be more efficient. Plus with some flat coils it could harvest a bit of energy like regenerative brakes.
I had a similar idea too some years ago. Was so good to see you bring it into practice. Maybe has been already suggested but, here´s an hybrid idea: what about using the magnets as dampers( that is, making a + and - side attract each other) and combine it with a spring (as I believe it has better shock absorbing properties than magnets in practice). Basically, the idea would be replacing the hydraulic part from spring shock with magnets for slowing down the rebound and keeping the spring). Can see it working in my mind. Do you think it could work? Would you give it a try?
@ um, I don't know where the heck you heard that, but those neodymium magnets of that size cost 5~6 hundred dollars each. Here is a link to one of the places where you can get them. www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?products_id=1065&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuLPnBRDjARIsACDzGL14VRIFm4EuTtVGB6-ow3mPxZq3ftibh2QeNC13BhGRCtlCPGjjQGoaAqKvEALw_wcB
Scotty is likely already making another "5 Things (Scotty says) you should never do to your car". Then at the end he'll imply that everything other than Toyota or Honda is dogshit.
@@flyingschoolbus9557 Not magnetic suspension, magnetorheological dampers (yes did have to google that word lol). These guys are using magnets for springs, completely different effect. If it wasn't for the weight and cost of the magnets, this isn't a terrible idea. You get progressive spring rate with a virtually maintenance free design.
Why is it that only 4 years later do is see this on my feed, seriously, these guys are amazing. UA-cam algorithms are not good at all, i get content recommended that i would never watch, i get content from channels i have asked not to be recommended, the only way i see to block a channel or see a channel is to report the channel as spam only then is it blocked forever from my view. Rant over. These guys actually do things i wonder about, great stuff.
Like first reply, they got a Iron Sleeve to protect them. And Electrical welding is a very fast welding, so magnets wont have over heat from that. Also, at factory, do you know how they make magnet? By passing through a very high voltage. Before that it's just a big piece of mixed metal.
Me gustó mucho su demostración de suspensión magnética, y yo tengo una teoría práctica para hacer que vuele osea que levante vuelo una tablero de madera de un metro x un metro ya resolví la solución gracias por su video eso me inspiro mucho mi genialidad de inventar algo único
More magnets. More space between them. Surround with non magnetic material. Could pick up a crowbar or other metal. Edit: Has to be electro magnetic. The weight of so many magnets outweighs benefit. Youre on the right track.
The center floating magnet and the bottom plunger magnet would need small holes in them to allow the passage of oil. Put wipers on those 2 and i seriously think that could work.
Honest to god I’ve always wanted to see someone use magnets as suspensions. You guys made my day!! Finally got that thought out my head and seen it in action
And seen it as a failure
@@numberone-kb2kh
Hardly a failure. It's the Rolls Royce of suspension systems with unfortunately a Rolls Royce price tag to go with it.
Does it pick up lost coins from the streets?
Well. It will probably pick up some Chinese RMB coins because of the material used in the coins. But not there isn't any chance it will pick any Australian coins.
No, just manhole covers.
@@erikj.2066 in russia is no manhole covers
Erik J. Lmao
Jari Sillanpää Right, no manhole covers in Russia. Those round metal looking objects imbedded in the road at 5:54, 6:55, and 7:02 must have been put there for decoration.
You'd think this guy is 100% clickbait but holy crap everything is real
These guys are just the best! Their experiments are so awesome!
All of thease ideas came about after ALLOT of vodka!
Yeah Russians don't have time for bull crap
And they also don't take any bull crap if you put a clickbait picture you never know what will happen to you 😀
Him and Master Milo they're both killin it. With the non clickbait crazyness
Kind of a waste of time and money if you ask me. Obviously it'll work... Crudely. The science is making it BETTER than traditional suspension and I'm not seeing any proof of that here
"Is it safe?"
"Who knows? Let's test it on the public roads!"
Not only that but it’s Russian public roads so they’re extra brutal on the car lol.
Didn’t like to preserve 69 likes 👍
well who cares really, It's Russia.
Best laugh ever
Sounds like a quote from Elon Musk.
Russians playing with permanent magnets and everyone still has their fingers. I'm amazed lol
Cpt.AirWolf I was waiting when we was pulling it off the vise. He was lucky in my opinion.
yeah pretty lacking on safety,could have ended pretty badly
@@Ch1kapoo Same here, I said out loud at my screen, "watch your fingers."
In the Soviet Russia, the permanent magnets have to keep themselves safe from YOU
Almost lost his hand at 1:34
The dubbing deserves some praise! I don't think you'd have this many views without it!
Russians do crazy shit and Americans wanna see it
trabladorr way more views if he wouldn’t leave the Russian dude talking in the background when he’s dubbing over it.
@@XDANmanXxx So you want the editor to edit out the star? Sounds like solid advice.
@@trabladorr Uh yes edit him out. The Japanese star of pokimon isn't the star in America...
trabladorr he is not a star, native viewers call him "bold" or "Toretto" and always criticize him for sports betting ads
*Japan:* We created the first maglev commuter train.
*Garage 54:* Hold my vodka..
Actually not Japan, Germans did it
@@themichael3410 But they tried two times, and both times were unsuccessful.
@@themichael3410 are u dumb?
Hold my bear...
And bose allready created this but was two exspesive two produce
Dude I came up with this idea back in 94 when I was 7 years old. I never made anything, just in my head. I was so happy to see this video! Great minds think alike!
lol,... You, and at least 33 percent of the world's population, ... lol
Except Trumps, ... his magnets stop working when they get wet for some reason??
Lexus in 80s has produced and presented successfully electromagnetic suspention ))) Where is it now who knows.....
Just got this idea in 2024 and googled it and found this! Aha
@@glebskakovsky9475 ..it was actually made by Bose the audio company and they used a Lexus as their test bed if i remember correctly.
I had this idea as well when I was a kid. We both lost out on marketing this!!
Should have used a rubber gasget between the magnets to soften the contact.
Or proper bump-stops.
@@mysock351C ... Do you really expect proper anything from this channel?
Or do oem and make a cylinder fill it with a ferrous solution and seal it, but soften the sudden shock
Thats not how this supposed to work. Idea was, that magnetic force keep the magnets apart. And it kind of worked. The issue is, since the force weakens fast when the gap grows, so suspension travel seem to be short.
@@TheAttacker732
The nasa pen russian pencil (fake ) story .... Eh it works.
I gotta admit. I saw the thumbnail and got pretty excited!
Ikr
Meeeee too ofc
Wait. This video isn't worth my time?!?!
Did you get a chubby?
@@daybot9592 *Erection*. The word adults use is Erection.
>Car is lifted by the axle
>Removes suspension
>Car doesn't fall on his head for some slav reasons
Anything is possible if you’re Russian enough
The car knows it will go to gulag if it does fall.
his hand was right between the axle and the body when it dropped, dude was really lucky
holy hell i noticed they had the posts under the suspension before the car-almost-crushing-the-guy shot even happened and thought..."nah-they'll realize" (spoiler....they didn't realize)
Slav OSHA standards
I applaud you. All your videos have never been clickbait.
Title always the truth, never exaggeration or a lie.
When the magnets cost more than the car
Where can I buy magnets that cheap ?
@@sporehux8344 china
@@silent_shadow6157 with virus on them
@@canss1951 🤣
@@canss1951 ok, a prevision?
This Russian uncle has just reached maximum overslav level engineering.
Powerslav
Vladimir technogineering!!
Stop lampooning!
@@RepairRenovateRenew this is the word, POWERSLAV
You guys are doing stuff that has never been attempted on UA-cam!! Bravo Men!!
I fucking love Russians for shit like this
Check out the Bose magnetic suspension video
@@DomV123 I love that video
If you need more travel, you stick the magnets on top of each other with a thick copper pin through the middle for alignment, then encase the tall set up with oiled dampening. You can use smaller magnets and replace the existing shocks with the same dimensions.
And increase the gaps of many smaller magnets, right? Awesome idea!
magnets on top of eachother will not be that much of a difference I think. Better would be to use stronger magnets, because a magnet is rated its force at touching point. Within 1 or 2 centimeters the force is already a lot less. If I remember correctly the formula was: double the distance you get a fourth of the original force.
Why copper?
I was expecting to see a load of manhole covers under your car when you got back to the garage.
under rated comment xD
damn nice comment :)
Manhole covers, kids tricycles, anvils, screws, nails, and every other bit of ferrous metal in the neighborhood with that amount of neodymium magnets strapped underneath your car. The theory is nice, but I'm sure the end results would be relatively disastrous!🤪
www.coolmagnetman.com/magshield.htm
Fucking right?! Hahaha
Compared to standard Lada suspension, anything would be an improvement.
I think even that suspension can't fix ride in that car 😅
What are the last 3/4 to a Lada manual?
The plans and times of public transport
Martian74 agreed, I traveled in one on a train track. That was hell.
least lada had metal alloy in engine bmw used plastic
Lada niva still the best 4x4 buck for buck off roader
Congratulations sir for your modern Russian luxury car.
with an emphasis on luxury ;)
"Now with real oil"
It reminds me of my brothers old ford explorer from 19 something something
"Does 1 hectare to a single tank of kerosene"!!
"Put it in "H"...."!
1. Mentioned force is what you have to apply to keep them touching with the whole surface, it is greatly reduced even at a few mm distance, so they have very small travel. Such magnets are good to keep it from touching but not to act as a spring.
2. Placing them in the middle is actually creating a lot of leverage. It would work a bit better if those were installed as close to the wheels as possible.
If these magnets have noedymium cores, you probably weakened them a lot by that heat. 80°C is enough for a significant loss. I personally killed few little ones by using glue gun to attach them.
Little magnets or little ones as in children?
@@drockjr lol. I mean little magnets(2*2*1 mm btw). I didnt expected that, in my native language it could be understood right...
@Jimmy De'Souza @MartinJanesik Your English is fine, I'm just being an idiot
@@martin913913 nah, I'm just being an idiot
@Jimmy De'Souza mind elabourating on that stereotype? I've searched on Google but can't find anything
This will help me with my extensive hobby of collecting metallic road debris.
I hope I break every signal actuator I stop on.
The light is now green... forever
you won't break it. you'll actuate it better. I had trouble with my Suzuki motorcycle, when I would stop at a traffic light, the bike is heavy on plastic and it would not trip the sensor. I eventually tore apart a computer disk drive and installed one of the magnets in the arch area of my right boot (external). When I pull up to traffic lights I just wave my leg over the sensor wire and BAM, it works. Drawback is that it pickes up everybit of metal debris and magnetic pebbles......
@@QuantumRift en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
Where do you live that has a wire to activate traffic lights?
QuantumRift
There's a little thing that you can buy that clamps on the bottom of your motorcycle that'll trip those sensors when you pull over top of them.
7:53 Guy: "Why does the transmission keep popping out of gear?" -Me: looks in direction of magnets....
@Sean Grahame you think twice about the pulling force from these magnets
@@rafalbuijs5061 I highly doubt it would reach the transmission
when you upgrade your car but at the same time discover a new fuckup
@@imtrash1228
"I highly doubt it would reach the transmission"
And you would be correct in that assumption.
What is causing the transmission to pop out is the fact that when they took the shock absorbers and OEM springs off the car, they opened it up to all sorts of twists and bends.
Those twists and bends combined with all those bumps, are what is causing the transmission to pop out of gear.
Love the descriptive text of your reaction! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Thank you for providing the English voice over! This experiment is such a cool idea! Subscribed!
Hey Garage 54: THX for the Russian to English translation, really appreciate it, awesome videos, love the crazy ideas and possible practical implementations ;-)
+joe use google translate
me: waiting anxiously for triple truck engine lada
also me: getting a sci-fi hovercraft instead
Mee too! Lmfao👋🤣👍
That would be more square tube than Lada. May as well tack weld some Lada fenders on an old tank and call it a converted Lada.
@@D4Z35 YoU CAn'T DenY The TrUTh DaRreLL
They have a Russian channel, they also realese that video months ago
you kill the field when you add HEAT to them try doin this with out welding them, but you did say there is a steel sleeve on it so maybe you did not kill the field
Such small welds wont do too much harm with the steel/iron sleeve around it
Agreed, that amount of heat required to weld them would have seriously killed that magnet.
Permanent magnets can be easily re magnetized.
And judging by thickness of sleeve it would be a non issue
welding is the word you use for doing the work in english , welder is the name of the unit!! but yes
Good! I would suggest two things - mount the whole assembly on a pneumatic bag that would absorb the shock when the suspension is fully compressed, so the shock would not be transmitted to the chassis, and add an electromagnet on each end that would trigger in proportion to the amount of travel - as the axle went higher, a sensor would increase the current to the electromagnet, increasing the resisting force and decelerating the axle movement. That would stop the permanent magnets from banging into one another at the end of their travel, which wears out permanent magnets. Adding shock absorbers, as you mentioned, would take care of the rebound problem and damp oscillations. Good luck with the project!
Great idea. I'm sure between you and him, you could market this idea to GM. I like the three ideas of suspension control
Please do this again..with shocks and enough magnets.👍
and magnets should be at the place of removed springs
aa3smit please do
@@areyouavinalaff Why can't magnetic field absorb shocks?
Yes
Magnetic shocks
You totally killed the magnets by welding them. Too hot.
They welded the steel casings, not the neodymium and clearly they do still work
@@skeezixmccat they arent as strong as they were. Put heat on a magnet and see what happens
Yup. When I saw that I was disappointed. They should have used bolts.
@@Im_Schizgiven Fourier's law of thermal conductance, i say he would be lucky if those magnets were half of their potential after welding
they only spotwelded them. with that thick of a steelcasing there is no way they would have lost any potential.
"local scenic road"
Sounds like russia
Andrew bad thing that it’s not lifeless, we actually have such roads a lot...
Sounds about russian
Self-irony
It’s the same here in Canada
Warning: Do not attempt to cross railroad tracks or steel bridges with this suspension.
How about one magnet loose on between magnets?
Like I-+ +- -+I
DRD 144 good way to get more travel
what I was exactly thinking about
This
But doubled and put in place of springs with articulated mounts maybe an all thread as a guide rod with heim joint end and a large nut to limit extension over travel. a steel cap with a threaded center could replace an upper spring cup and a lower plate mounted to the lower control arm you could avoid welding to the magnet, run a set of shocks and Bob's your auntie
They have rotate the one row of magnets.
Wat about Getting stuck on an iron bridge... 😂😁
there are no iron bridges in russia
Drive over manhole cover and suddenly PANG
You should have used nuts and bolts, extreme heat from welding must have weakened the magnet
Taskin I’m glad I’m not the only one seeing the value here.
Eric Heisler yes, maglev is important tech
I guess it's less heat then drilling?, also the would likely break
No need to drill, magnets have hole at centre
Taskin, watch again . they did not weld ( the magnet portion ) . They drilled through the metallic center then through the square iron to provide a hole for the guide. Any welding done was not done on the magnet.
a lot of great ideas came from people working in a garage experimenting like u guys do . talent mixed with the desire to have fun cant beat it.
I thought of the same concept 6 years ago. But never worked on it. I am happy that this actually works in the practical world. Great work!!
It's rather sad when you come up with these amazing ideas, but never try to materialize them.
@@wolfenstien13 Not many have the resources or the connections to realize their ideas.
Put the magnets inside a thick walled copper tube and it will act like a shock absorber.
gene S. Oh hell yeah!! That would be cool. Plug you get an electric current to run the car... too complicated? But go ahead and make some shocks.
Wouldn't those be shocking shocks?
Just fill the tube with oil and yep, but its far easier to just buy airbags if you want this kind of basic suspension
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
Why buy stuff when you have tons of crap laying around that you can fabricate up?
Itll only take a little bit of a shitload more time than expected.
Great idea, using lenz Law to do the absorbing! it will resist more with faster movement and less with slower always the nicest ride :)
Thank you for the english translation guys. Love seeing this guy mess with cars just for then fun of it. Keep it up
I think that was a great experiment are you evolving your ideas and trying different configurations and positions on the vehicle.
The more you try the more you will discover what's working and make adjustments to improve it.
Your not reinventing the wheel your improving its efficiency and effectiveness.
Great job.
You should make Vertical magnetic suspension. E.g. 3magnets in a vertical guide, North-north-south-south. So the total gap is for example 20mm instead of just 10mm on each side
Great idea :D I would like to see how that works out.
Im thinkin there would be tomuch of a chance of sliding due to the fields around (they would want to kick left or right )
@@jbstepchild Thats why you keep the guide rods...
Big brain
@@JtagSheep just following that thought pattern too, but mounted in a guide tube with the last on an extended plunger and located back in spring well...
They need to be inside of cylinders like a piston, instead of having a guide rod.
Why not both?
@@chappiedatass1361 EUREKA!!!!!
@@chappiedatass1361 I guess 542,000 heads are better than 1....
Use Electromagnet for suspension + it can be adjusted
I thought a magnet engine. Opposing pistons/magnets that can be reversed/timed via electric solenoids. Free energy. No combustion or exhaust, just magnets replacing fuel and the piston/head.
Mister, you know magnets lose their magnetism when heated up or taking blunt hits right? You kinda did both in this video. You literally welded it.
Que buen video! Nadie lo había hecho antes, es muy interesante, ojalá pudieras hacer la parte 2 o una versión mejorada de esta idea, sería un éxito, eres un genio
1:34 he's lucky he didn't crush his hand or lose a finger
No he is not, the weight is on the car lift and not on the wheels
@@ai7136 they lifted up the car with the swingarms, and when he took out the spring and shock the whole chassis come down almost all the way to crush his hands. That was a lucky moment for the guy.
@@ai7136 yeah!!!!! he was lucky....
cut
Or whole car falls off lift...
My Audi has "MagRide" suspension, and I concur that once a pothole overcomes the magnets, the bump stops are spine crushing.
Best comment!
Not the best comment 😂 this is not at all how Audis magnetic ride works. It’s still a conventional shock and spring set up with only the viscosity of the fluid in the shock being affected by magnets 😂😂😂 there is no magnet to “overcome” hahah dumbass
those magnets barely had any strength after welding!
Thought the same thing, they cant handle the heat from a weld
Same here
“Now to find a beat up road”
*Drives 3 inches*
“We’re here”
The only dubbed anime that is actually good.
Bottom line: Would recommend to a friend.
Dubbed cory in the house is pretty good too
@@manitoba-op4jx Anime is 100000000% better than my life.
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Initial D, Russian edition.
Garage 54 is my favorite anime
I think the magnets will do a great job cleaning up road hazards such as nails...
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Yeah yu were right bro
The translator "narration" is so appreciated.
This is a cool channel. Thanks from the US!!
Applying heat to magnets is never a good idea. They will loose their magnetism and then revert back to being useless lumps of metal.
Which is probably why this didn't work out as well as it could've.
Correct, it would have been more effective to weld the rims of the magnets onto the beam first and then place in the magnets inside their rims.
@Swampy You clearly never welded anything ever
@Swampy Ahh, so that explains it
Maybe use electric powered magnets like the junkyard tractors use
Thats intersting idea, am extra alternator 120A at least, with current adjustment depending on the terrain
@Please Complete All Fields yep it's how motors work bro
@Please Complete All Fields This.
@@1ssac1 Bose (yes, the sound device maker) made an electromagnetic suspension and tested it, you can see videos of them on UA-cam. But apparently an active system is too heavy and use too much power to be commercially used.
LeSarthois Yes using electro magnets would be like constantly running a motor to lift the car up.
FYI Heat destroys magnets, I know because I sometimes weld magnetic steel.
Magnets destroy welds, unless you know what you're doing lol
Dustin Sanders a lot of heat does.
Welding produces a shit ton of heat and you can weld magnetized steel but you have to heat it up to u do the magnetism. Or else you can even get an arch going
@@dustinontaiyabbi5608 thermal conductivity/conductance. Heat transfers very efficiently.
you only need to go above curie temperature which for iron is only 700 celsius(1400f)
Even here in Brazil, is awsome to watch your videos!
Great video. Make a floating bench or chair for your shop with the left over magnets. Florida USA.
Most probably weakened the magnetic force with all the impact and heat from fabrication
Bose did it with electromagnet
बोस दादा?
Yeah, that certainly did not help them
Yeah
The poles will invert with permanent ceramic or neodymium. You need electro magnets so you can control the magnitude of the field and not worry about flux line inversions
Electomagnets could charge baterys with every bump
Electromagnets require electricity to work buddy
Its like those flash lights where you shake them to move a magnet by a coil ..voila electricitate!
@@skeezixmccat You know exactly what he means.. Well, atleast I hope you do lmao. Ever heard of an alternator?
@@Dubz0408 Alternator doesn't have an electromagnet.
MustHaveChannel Jesus Christ lol. When you move iron past a copper winding it creates a voltage. Thats a simplistic view of how an alternator works. If you apply voltage to an alternator, it becomes a motor... Just as applying movement to the iron within an electromagnet’s windings creates voltage in its windings due to the movement of the magnetic field.
Another quality experiment! Love the crazy ideas!
Awesome video. The idea is fantastic, but you would probably benefit from using an electromagnetic setup, reversing polarity. Have them wired up to the car battery or a separate power source within the car.
Combined with right type of shock absorber, this will be wonderful.
Cheers from Indonesia
Magnets for suspension
What a brilliant idea!
Well done
You know what? I am hooked on your video's. It's awesome to see an business owner with a little humor, and curiosity, and then video it. Thank You for your work. Ignore the idiots that thumbs down everything their jealous of in life.
Super trains use magnets to hover.
these vids are so a magnetizing you just have to watch them great vid guys love this channel .
It works pretty well for a first prototype, maybe with other types of magnets in a Halbach configuration and some diamagnetic container that protect the magnets from attracting things and redirect the magnetic field even more, the suspension could be more efficient. Plus with some flat coils it could harvest a bit of energy like regenerative brakes.
I wonder why the engineers don't put magnets in the stop of the suspension when the piston comes to end.
@@monad_tcp rubber bumpers cost a nickel... A magnetic stop setup will be cost prohibitive.
**Car bottoms out on every hairline crack on the street** "These magnets are doing a great job" hahahahah
Upgrading to 10 or 12 magnets might help, but it would weigh a tonne!
@@paulf1071 shows the potential direction of technology
@@SnD340 Yeah it's worth investigating. The benefits of frictionless sus would be great.
@@paulf1071 frictionless **sus**
@@pixeldotcreator4415
I’ve never got the sus thing but
*_WHO CALLS SUSPENSION SUS!?_* 😂
I had a similar idea too some years ago. Was so good to see you bring it into practice. Maybe has been already suggested but, here´s an hybrid idea: what about using the magnets as dampers( that is, making a + and - side attract each other) and combine it with a spring (as I believe it has better shock absorbing properties than magnets in practice). Basically, the idea would be replacing the hydraulic part from spring shock with magnets for slowing down the rebound and keeping the spring). Can see it working in my mind. Do you think it could work? Would you give it a try?
the force of the field decreases quadratically, so 1mm to 5mm distance mean 1/25 of the first amount of force
600 kg by 1mm gap mean 24kg by 5mm
Jürgen Hermsen thank you smart person
yes this is the reason why there wasn't too much space not cuz it got welded. Maybe but they welded the iron part anyway
@@austintillman8297 thx man, here in germany this is seventh grade ;)
Those magnets cost a few times more than that car is even worth!
That's not the point
That is the point.
Really I don't know that magnet cost that much
@ um, I don't know where the heck you heard that, but those neodymium magnets of that size cost 5~6 hundred dollars each. Here is a link to one of the places where you can get them.
www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?products_id=1065&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuLPnBRDjARIsACDzGL14VRIFm4EuTtVGB6-ow3mPxZq3ftibh2QeNC13BhGRCtlCPGjjQGoaAqKvEALw_wcB
*No those magnetes are actually cheap. You have no idea what you're talking about*
ua-cam.com/video/r6OMCcoXT68/v-deo.html
Holy hell! support the car by the suspension and then take the strut off and almost crush your hand
seen that too eh?!!!
Ahhh yikes! That was way to close!
You live and you learn.. until you don't
Not finished watching....the concept of this is awesome!!!!!........
Great experiment!
My hat for your efforts!
Scotty kilmner should see this.
Scotty is likely already making another "5 Things (Scotty says) you should never do to your car". Then at the end he'll imply that everything other than Toyota or Honda is dogshit.
Scotty would disapprove unless it's on a '94 Celica.
Ol Scotty would make a whole hour video just to trash this car telling you not to do it😂😂
He protecc...
He atacc...
Most importantly...
He got the magnets in the bacc...
Lorrie trailer floating behind
Damn these Russians are crazy! (In a nice way of course.)
Track suit has spoken
Honestly, that's a pretty brilliant idea.
Didn't Bose make a prototype electro magnet suspension?
Yes but it never made it to production because the weight. New GM cars have magnetic suspension though.
Flying School bus
What da hell?!
Do you have a link for that?
@@flyingschoolbus9557 Not magnetic suspension, magnetorheological dampers (yes did have to google that word lol).
These guys are using magnets for springs, completely different effect. If it wasn't for the weight and cost of the magnets, this isn't a terrible idea. You get progressive spring rate with a virtually maintenance free design.
@@SoldererOfFortune , wow fid. What did you put together ?
Was it not in the old Lexus Ls400 they tested it in?
Wow! This is really amazing technology! Congratulations, Garage 54!
I'd rather they have given us subtitles rather than try dubbing over his voice. Old Russian man has voice of angel~
William Su yup.. Agree fully. This reminds me of Japanese games shows.
Fairly sure there is a non translated channel
You can find the original channel by searching for "гараж 54"
Sounds like the dad I would hear talking to his Russian son while I would play counter strike.
Why is it that only 4 years later do is see this on my feed, seriously, these guys are amazing. UA-cam algorithms are not good at all, i get content recommended that i would never watch, i get content from channels i have asked not to be recommended, the only way i see to block a channel or see a channel is to report the channel as spam only then is it blocked forever from my view. Rant over.
These guys actually do things i wonder about, great stuff.
You welded the magnet.... You lost most of the power after it got hot!
They have sleeves so they would have been protected from the heat.
Like first reply, they got a Iron Sleeve to protect them.
And Electrical welding is a very fast welding, so magnets wont have over heat from that.
Also, at factory, do you know how they make magnet? By passing through a very high voltage. Before that it's just a big piece of mixed metal.
You can't pass a very high voltage trough a low resistance object. I think you meant current
@@two_number_nines Yes ohm's law baby.
Great try, great vdja!
Waiting for the next act...
Thx BMI Russian and all of you.
Amazing, this idea has so much room for improvement!
It's more like a rudimentary Bose suspension. They used computers, but magnets do the job nearly alright.... thank you garage 54.
magnificent idea! perfect it and make a stronger magnetic suspension with rubber bushes between them so they do not clash
Run some copper through those guides and you'll be making electricity with those magnets going up and down
I'm not exactly sure but those guides look really close to the gas tank. You did not want electricity near your gas tank.
@@FireFox64000000 you also don't want explosive neodymium near it, for that matter. But this was, how you say, Russian prototype?
Might actually provide some needed stiffness too
remove gas tank. engine. replace with electric engine self powered by its suspension. self powered car
@@FireFox64000000 it would generate it anyway due to eddy current if the gastank is made of metal
Alright. A garage 54 video. Good stuff
For sure! Glad im not the only one!
Me gustó mucho su demostración de suspensión magnética, y yo tengo una teoría práctica para hacer que vuele osea que levante vuelo una tablero de madera de un metro x un metro ya resolví la solución gracias por su video eso me inspiro mucho mi genialidad de inventar algo único
Magnetic suspended seat(s)?
Would be quite interrested in that.
Yea Bose makes them for trucks, one seat is way up there, I think it was 12k US
This would be interesting.
More magnets. More space between them. Surround with non magnetic material. Could pick up a crowbar or other metal.
Edit: Has to be electro magnetic. The weight of so many magnets outweighs benefit. Youre on the right track.
1:33 Totally safe...
Love this Chanels Crazy Ideas So Much, Just an idea, but maybe you could post two versions of every video, one voiced, and one of original footage
Needs stronger magnets, go neodymium, N52 at best!
The entire car would wrap itself around the rear axle ;)
Pfft! Neodymium? electromagnets my man
Need too much power, too complex a system for a homeshop hackjob like this.
I think those were neodymium and they just killed them by welding them with 1million degree electricity.
Fukking awesome...I love backyard genius and tinkering like this...
next one video lada with fifteen magnets suspension jajaja, like the lada's engines jaja...seriously...very interesting that sistem....👍
Garage 54: Russian but with English guy speaking
Try to configure the magnets in a Tension configuration instead of compressive.
@@12OclockLow yea it might not be ideal but it would be interesting
Make a cylinder with 3 magnet inside. 2 at the ends an one in the middle. The one on top is welded. Make it work lice a shock absorbents.
Msybe but you would need oil inside aswell to dampen everything. Not a stupid idea tho. Ya know thats crazy enough it might actually work.
The center floating magnet and the bottom plunger magnet would need small holes in them to allow the passage of oil. Put wipers on those 2 and i seriously think that could work.
Wooden pistons, cement tires, coca-cola lubrication, now magnetic suspension, Russians are truly amazing, if somewhat insane.
This is what you get when technically none of your cars are your cars....
Wow thanks for this first video that shows a magnetic shock dampening in action.