Before you got to Arcane Sanctuary, you could have shopped for a staff with teleport charges. Having that as a secondary weapon is really helpful with a summon necro in some areas.
Sorry for commenting after a year... Actually, any source of teleportation is mandatory for summoner, as it focuses all the minions on one target. Before Enigma you can use teleport staff, teleport charges on amulet, or just use scroll of town portal. Just teleport to enemy, move a bit after teleportation and all your army will attack the same target.
@@TremereKorbuI dunno why this reminded me of it but if you namelock a mob and summon ravens on the mob as a druid ALL of your ravens will target that specific dude. It's super useful on hardcore. People sleep on ravens but the blind they inflict is super useful 😅
I really like your videos. I'm playing hardcore D2 for the first time. I died on my first attempt at normal Diablo as a summoner necro, I'm on Act 3 in nightmare on my second attempt. The power creep is outrageous and I'm having a ton of fun. Thanks for the inspiration.
Thank you! Glad you like them. Getting to act 4 is very solid for a first attempt, you'll get there for sure! If you like the power creep from norm to nightmare you are going to love hell. Glad I could help!
The first couple of levels might be 'uuufh'... you can also get yourself a bit of money and shop yourself a +3 Skeleton wand to quickly get hella strong Skeletons.
Managed to get a +3Summon, +2Mastery, +1 Amp damage wand at lvl5 in one run I was doing. Eventually changed it to a Spirit mid-Hell, but really didn't have to. That wand would have won me the game easily. Early game win-stick for sure. (I love classes with innate +skills equipment that are easy to shop, and with the sort of scaling summon necros have, this goes double)
I have the platinum trophy in Dark souls 1. I love 3 as well. Bloodborne is also one of my favorite games of all time. I've thought about doing these kind of videos with those games as well :) the format would definitely work with it. I have multiple metroid games that I still need to get to as well.
My HC summon necro back in the day was as confident as yours until he opened a door in the palace cellar in hell. His deeds are remembered. By the way Vex! How cool!
4:25 Quite a few years ago there was a group of madlads who 8 players hardcore NO gear and completed Hell Baal without anyone dying. I don't think there's videos anymore but there are a few articles that mention it.
I'm always happy to find Kelpie Snare. It's such a good weapon, especially considering how easy it is to find it. Yeah fana on a merc is a massive shift in power for this build. And it already was very good
And about picking a goal and sticking with it. I just don't stop editing until I'm happy with the video :) I also just enjoy editing videos. It's like watching tv and just deleting all the boring stuff.
I just love your content so so much man, I am on my third time through the hardcore playlist, your jokes and everything are just amazing, please keep making videos! Especially the ones that end in... well death. Lol
Thank you for the kind words! It still amazes me people watch, let alone rewatch my video's. I will keep making them as long as people keep watching them. I will try to survive though haha
How much the skeleton skills were changed in d2r? I remember doing the normal act bosses in players8 with ssf full skeleton builds, and never really had problems keeping my minions alive. I was honestly surprised that you had to run in circles around Diablo and Baal, and they took you so much time. Basically the first 20 skillpoints went straight into raise skelly, next 20 into mastery, with the exception of 1 points into summon resist and amp damage, and the skeletons were mostly unkillable, while doing great damage.
I think I did my leveling up a bit suboptimally. I did a mix of raise skeleton and skeleton mastery. I'm also usually much lower level than people expect me to be at certain points which might be a factor as well.
Have a question can there be multiple Necromancers if u play with friends? How much skeleton can u even make and imagine each Necro using one of each Golems U have Clay, Metal, Fire and Blood golem at the same time. Someone can focus on Skeleton while other focus on Skeletal, one can focus on Revived monster and everyone focus on their own Golem. And if they want they can also have one shooting teeths and making bone wall/cages.
Yes there can be up to 8 summon necro's in a game. People used to do that to create lag and cause disconnects. I dno about exactly how many summons you can get but I would guess about a crapton
Summon Necro has always been my favorite character in the game. Just a safe, relaxing stroll through the hell, not worried about kill speed, taking time to smell the roses. I've never heard of that bow before, I think I have to try it now! I think you would be even safer with some points in Dim Vision, but why fix what isn't broken?
I saw people using the bow on a speedrun. I had never thought of it on a summoner before that. Between a Hustle , might merc and the new bow tech you actually don't really smell the roses anymore cause there is some real power and speed now. It comes at the cost of safety so beware of that. Dim vision is fine if you want it. I just didn't feel a need for it.
Where are you from? Glad to see a channel like this. I’m starting a ssf summoner. My lvl80 hammerdin just died running shenk 😂 Haven’t done a summoner in over a decade
@@thenuclearrabbit loved his stuff when it was more speedruns. Dont watch as much lately. But he's a cool guy and I did appreciate the references. Once again keep up the good work man. Can I request wind druid and avenger paladin? Would love to see one of those builds, once your schedule allows it.
I like the speedruns and letsplays he does. My videos are just letsplays like that but edited. I added them to the queue, but I have so many requests pending I can't say when it'll be done
Yes, but it's very dependant on the items you find. A lot of it is if thing x is happening I should do thing A but if thing y is happening I should do thing b/c/d. Edit: i just add what I need on feel and instinct, so it's very touch and go. Also thank you! Glad you like them
@@thenuclearrabbit I appreciate what you mean, it's just for example I only started playing D2 when Resurrected released and my play time Vs actual active characters is dismal lol, as in I have failed deleted so many even after following "the best build" guides🤣 I must be over 2000 hours on Switch and only have one character
I've been brainstorming on a format to do guides in because it's getting asked more and more. Been very busy these last few weeks (no, not only because of d4 lol) but I have some more time on my hands the coming month so I'll see what I can do.
keep raise skelly and skelly mastery about equal and take the other stuff as needed, by the middle of nightmare they are both maxed .. the only reason to do different would be that you have an available thorns aura early on (not iron maiden) as thats where its better to have weaker low defense skellies - it doesnt apply to iron maiden because its never the right curse outside of boss fights and in boss fights its the golem getting hit
3:07 thats what the speed runners do but a safer less effort fight is decrep + clay golem because they attack so slow the skelly warriors dont die before the boss
You could use portal trick for the bosses, you know, you get back to city by the portal right next to the boss and when You come back, your summs are stacked in one place like when You use enigma, really cool thing. There should be noone wandering around like in some of your fights with baal etc.
I always played summoner and my ex gf always played javzon. She would run to an area, TP me in and I would tank everything for her. We kicked ass back in the days for keys and organs.
On narrow corridors and tunnels always decrease your army for example when i do Pits ussualy I use 5 skeleton warriors and Merc,For Maggot lair 2 and Merc is totally fine
I thought you were a goner at 0:55 wen you inter the house. Why blood golem over clay on Durial norm difficulty ? PS. How much wand shopping do you do ?
Yeah that was pretty close. I dno, I just do whatever I feel like on normal. Clay golem is probably better though. Depends on how much the build needs it and how much I'm in the mood to shop, there is no set amount of time. But it can easily take a while.
@@thenuclearrabbit definitely. I almost ruined my build for shopping so much. I also watch Lama UA-cam guy use chipped gems to reroll the wand but ended up with nothing good
@@frankenstein3163 haha I know who Llama is I watch his guided playthroughs while editing. Yeah the chipped gem thing is super consistent for getting gold but for skills not so much
Not really, I just add the points based on what I feel I need. Best for this one is max skellies en skelly mastery first. A point in amp damage, iron maiden and in a golem of your choice, after that it's kind of see what you like
@@thenuclearrabbit for the beginning and normal is great. Poison is awesome. For the druid summon, Just cast the Wolfes and behind kill with poison. Druid and rouge with tal bows, is safe. Even necro works fine. You can clear a lot of Shit! Dont forget corpse Explosion booom
Ahhhh as kinda expirienced summoner i can tell u, wrong curses half time ( correct curse and character positioning, and of course ce its your only job), and mages suck. Btw nice vid.
@@thenuclearrabbit that's okay. just wondering. I have a ton of upgraded shit I don't use on my chars on the switch and iron golem is basically unkillable plus any auras and effects of the item carry over.
summoner can beat normal difficulty compfortably on players 7/8 solo (in fact every class can given a bit of prep with runewords). not sure what you're doing. i guess /players 1 is harder cause you are underleveled all the time!?
@@thenuclearrabbit whatever is the most fun for you. :) i usually do diablo at lvl ~31 and with decrepify my skeletons can take him down on players 7. no iron maiden needed.
@@fo0liner1985 Oh yeah no we have a very different thought on what underleveled means. At lvl 31 I am usually well into nightmare. But as you said. Just do whatever is fun for you. It's just a video game after all haha
@@thenuclearrabbit yeah I get it, it's just pain in the ass to beat bosses with iron maiden compared to running some sort of hybrid 1st and then go summon
Before you got to Arcane Sanctuary, you could have shopped for a staff with teleport charges. Having that as a secondary weapon is really helpful with a summon necro in some areas.
Thanks for the tip would have saved me from countless deaths
I thought it is exclusive at act 3
Sorry for commenting after a year... Actually, any source of teleportation is mandatory for summoner, as it focuses all the minions on one target. Before Enigma you can use teleport staff, teleport charges on amulet, or just use scroll of town portal. Just teleport to enemy, move a bit after teleportation and all your army will attack the same target.
@@TremereKorbuI dunno why this reminded me of it but if you namelock a mob and summon ravens on the mob as a druid ALL of your ravens will target that specific dude. It's super useful on hardcore. People sleep on ravens but the blind they inflict is super useful 😅
I really like your videos. I'm playing hardcore D2 for the first time. I died on my first attempt at normal Diablo as a summoner necro, I'm on Act 3 in nightmare on my second attempt. The power creep is outrageous and I'm having a ton of fun. Thanks for the inspiration.
Thank you! Glad you like them.
Getting to act 4 is very solid for a first attempt, you'll get there for sure!
If you like the power creep from norm to nightmare you are going to love hell.
Glad I could help!
If you can get to level 55 the build is basically done and you are in ez mode now
The first couple of levels might be 'uuufh'... you can also get yourself a bit of money and shop yourself a +3 Skeleton wand to quickly get hella strong Skeletons.
Managed to get a +3Summon, +2Mastery, +1 Amp damage wand at lvl5 in one run I was doing. Eventually changed it to a Spirit mid-Hell, but really didn't have to. That wand would have won me the game easily. Early game win-stick for sure.
(I love classes with innate +skills equipment that are easy to shop, and with the sort of scaling summon necros have, this goes double)
I play 3 games a lot. Dark Souls 1, Diablo 2, Metroid 3. Having the Asylum Demon music in Normal Baal was mind breaking
I have the platinum trophy in Dark souls 1. I love 3 as well. Bloodborne is also one of my favorite games of all time. I've thought about doing these kind of videos with those games as well :) the format would definitely work with it. I have multiple metroid games that I still need to get to as well.
Dark souls1 & D2 4life , never played metroid
Came for the guide, stayed for the StarCraft OST
Really now I’m like welp time to play sc again 😅
My HC summon necro back in the day was as confident as yours until he opened a door in the palace cellar in hell. His deeds are remembered. By the way Vex! How cool!
This game can be brutal at times. RIP. Vex is always a fun find! I'm surprised I actually got to use this one.
Finally, necro summoner
Really good idea with the edge bow! Ive never thought of that before
It's the speedrun strat for necro :) I didn't come up with it
Haha love the Star Craft music in the background!
Came down here for this comment!! SOOO good! Oddly, it's a good fit. Didn't think so at first, but it quickly grew on me!
the pain of summon necro fighting normal diablo
It was rough!
I still remember in 2002 when the first circle of fire destroyed all my skeletons :D I almost cried as a child :D
I died with mine farming hell countess from a frost nova looking for a lum to.make smoke
The OG starcraft music made my day
I like the strategy of using an enchant merc to give your skellies tons of AR and a bit of fire dmg
The thorns aura on merc is so gigachad on necro
Here for the Iron Maiden ref @1:01
I don't quite hit the high note as well though.
4:25 Quite a few years ago there was a group of madlads who 8 players hardcore NO gear and completed Hell Baal without anyone dying. I don't think there's videos anymore but there are a few articles that mention it.
wow that sounds like a challenge all right. Good on them
Man my Diablo fight went sooo different. I used decrep and my minions just went to work
Oh yeah that definitely works as well
"The Arcane Sanctuary is where fun goes to die with this build" :)
Haha yeah it's pretty rough
@@thenuclearrabbitThat and Maggot Lair. It works, but so slowly.
im late to the party but your hard rock/metal references are always lovely
thank you. I'm a huge metalhead haha. Always have been
Nice Vid. Thank you.
How do you get the Urdar's from act 4 at mephisto fight (17:10)
You can get those in the durance as well :)
That kelpie drop to add slow from merc was a dope ass new hero drop....i woulda been stoked that was clutch 👍
But the runeword for merc was massive
I'm always happy to find Kelpie Snare. It's such a good weapon, especially considering how easy it is to find it.
Yeah fana on a merc is a massive shift in power for this build. And it already was very good
Pretty sure Kelpie plus decrep breaks the frames of every boss.
StarCraft music is a nice touch.
It's such a brilliant soundtrack
I envy you for being able to create ~20 min videos. I find it to be the hardest.
Thank you :)
Edit: To respond a bit more. I spend days on editing. Sometimes longer than on actually doing the run.
@@thenuclearrabbit but the result worth it !
Thank you!
And about picking a goal and sticking with it. I just don't stop editing until I'm happy with the video :) I also just enjoy editing videos. It's like watching tv and just deleting all the boring stuff.
I just love your content so so much man, I am on my third time through the hardcore playlist, your jokes and everything are just amazing, please keep making videos! Especially the ones that end in... well death. Lol
Thank you for the kind words! It still amazes me people watch, let alone rewatch my video's.
I will keep making them as long as people keep watching them. I will try to survive though haha
How much the skeleton skills were changed in d2r? I remember doing the normal act bosses in players8 with ssf full skeleton builds, and never really had problems keeping my minions alive. I was honestly surprised that you had to run in circles around Diablo and Baal, and they took you so much time. Basically the first 20 skillpoints went straight into raise skelly, next 20 into mastery, with the exception of 1 points into summon resist and amp damage, and the skeletons were mostly unkillable, while doing great damage.
I think I did my leveling up a bit suboptimally. I did a mix of raise skeleton and skeleton mastery. I'm also usually much lower level than people expect me to be at certain points which might be a factor as well.
In normal mode I can recpmmend using Act3 Fire merc, enchant gives a nice AR+dmg boost to all the skeles
Silence is the OG OP runeword
I was so happy to get a chance to use it
Have a question can there be multiple Necromancers if u play with friends? How much skeleton can u even make and imagine each Necro using one of each Golems
U have Clay, Metal, Fire and Blood golem at the same time. Someone can focus on Skeleton while other focus on Skeletal, one can focus on Revived monster and everyone focus on their own Golem. And if they want they can also have one shooting teeths and making bone wall/cages.
Yes there can be up to 8 summon necro's in a game. People used to do that to create lag and cause disconnects. I dno about exactly how many summons you can get but I would guess about a crapton
Summon Necro has always been my favorite character in the game. Just a safe, relaxing stroll through the hell, not worried about kill speed, taking time to smell the roses. I've never heard of that bow before, I think I have to try it now! I think you would be even safer with some points in Dim Vision, but why fix what isn't broken?
I saw people using the bow on a speedrun. I had never thought of it on a summoner before that. Between a Hustle , might merc and the new bow tech you actually don't really smell the roses anymore cause there is some real power and speed now. It comes at the cost of safety so beware of that. Dim vision is fine if you want it. I just didn't feel a need for it.
Love the Starcraft music.
Where are you from? Glad to see a channel like this. I’m starting a ssf summoner. My lvl80 hammerdin just died running shenk 😂 Haven’t done a summoner in over a decade
I'm from the Netherlands. Rip your hammerdin and gl on your summoner :)
Upgrading to sigons belt in hell act 3 is pretty funny
Some Mrllama references there with the io dol and the shopping music?
Yeah. Big fan of his!
@@thenuclearrabbit loved his stuff when it was more speedruns. Dont watch as much lately. But he's a cool guy and I did appreciate the references. Once again keep up the good work man. Can I request wind druid and avenger paladin? Would love to see one of those builds, once your schedule allows it.
I like the speedruns and letsplays he does. My videos are just letsplays like that but edited.
I added them to the queue, but I have so many requests pending I can't say when it'll be done
Love these vids! Have you ever thought of maybe adding what skills you choose and when for us noobs lol. Wonderful Iron Maiden reference too 🤘😆🤘
Yes, but it's very dependant on the items you find. A lot of it is if thing x is happening I should do thing A but if thing y is happening I should do thing b/c/d.
Edit: i just add what I need on feel and instinct, so it's very touch and go.
Also thank you! Glad you like them
@@thenuclearrabbit I appreciate what you mean, it's just for example I only started playing D2 when Resurrected released and my play time Vs actual active characters is dismal lol, as in I have failed deleted so many even after following "the best build" guides🤣 I must be over 2000 hours on Switch and only have one character
I've been brainstorming on a format to do guides in because it's getting asked more and more. Been very busy these last few weeks (no, not only because of d4 lol) but I have some more time on my hands the coming month so I'll see what I can do.
keep raise skelly and skelly mastery about equal and take the other stuff as needed, by the middle of nightmare they are both maxed .. the only reason to do different would be that you have an available thorns aura early on (not iron maiden) as thats where its better to have weaker low defense skellies - it doesnt apply to iron maiden because its never the right curse outside of boss fights and in boss fights its the golem getting hit
I'm surprised you never bought a teleport staff. Also you might find that the summon druid is even easier for hardcore SSF (especially the early game)
I'm really not into skill charges from other classes.
I have never played a druid summoner before. I should get on that.
@@thenuclearrabbit I 2nd this. You should. Please. :)
Seconding summon druid. Interested to see how it performs compared to necro
@@thenuclearrabbit Terror works surprisingly well in making the narrow corridors be less bad
@@IIGrudge no summoning class compares to the necromancer
3:07 thats what the speed runners do but a safer less effort fight is decrep + clay golem because they attack so slow the skelly warriors dont die before the boss
Oh that works for sure as well
You could use portal trick for the bosses, you know, you get back to city by the portal right next to the boss and when You come back, your summs are stacked in one place like when You use enigma, really cool thing. There should be noone wandering around like in some of your fights with baal etc.
I know, did it a few times but the bossfights were totally fine without it. Build is just so super powerful
@@thenuclearrabbit true, clever idea to use triple aura from quite cheap runewords man. I wouldn't thought of it
Casters get insight on the merc and melee chars get a fana merc now. It's nice they leveled the playing field a bit like that.
Your writing is getting better, some decent jokes in there:-)
It's all improv and editing, but thank you :) I'm way to adhd to stick to a script
@@thenuclearrabbit Haha editing can do a lot! Ps: Can we get a freezing arrow zon run?
Sure, I put it in the queue. But it's actually ginormous at this point so no promises on when it's done
Cool video, a teleport staff would have made it even easier!
I don't do teleport staffs :) I don't like the gameplay they create
I always played summoner and my ex gf always played javzon. She would run to an area, TP me in and I would tank everything for her. We kicked ass back in the days for keys and organs.
Oh that sounds sweet. I've never had a gf that was into D2 before
That's a lot of work man. GG
GG
On narrow corridors and tunnels always decrease your army for example when i do Pits ussualy I use 5 skeleton warriors and Merc,For Maggot lair 2 and Merc is totally fine
Oh that is actually really smart I hadn't thought of that at all. Thx!
Pro tip, next time level him as poison bone until you get 3/4 the way thru NM then respec to summons right before hell. Thank me later.
Obviously that would be easier but kind of beats the point doesn't it?
I thought you were a goner at 0:55 wen you inter the house. Why blood golem over clay on Durial norm difficulty ? PS. How much wand shopping do you do ?
Yeah that was pretty close.
I dno, I just do whatever I feel like on normal. Clay golem is probably better though.
Depends on how much the build needs it and how much I'm in the mood to shop, there is no set amount of time. But it can easily take a while.
@@thenuclearrabbit definitely. I almost ruined my build for shopping so much. I also watch Lama UA-cam guy use chipped gems to reroll the wand but ended up with nothing good
@@frankenstein3163 haha I know who Llama is I watch his guided playthroughs while editing. Yeah the chipped gem thing is super consistent for getting gold but for skills not so much
Maggot Lair - I double that!
this is the one build where a teleport staff is allowed
Nah.
bob lumbar
Bill Lumbergh**** been doing that lately just close enough name but not it, this is tho lol (office space boss) looooove that movie too
Yeah office space is so spot-on and amazing it's insane. Such a good movie
Is there a step by step guide on how to do this? Like level by level
Not really, I just add the points based on what I feel I need. Best for this one is max skellies en skelly mastery first. A point in amp damage, iron maiden and in a golem of your choice, after that it's kind of see what you like
Your skills seem off. Only 5 skeletons in a4? Did you not put all your points into skeletons?
How do you get the health bars above the enemies head?
It's the ps5 version standard lay-out
Just started a Necro Hardcore...LegendCrump- US East
Good luck!
where was the maggot lair footage??
I'm sorry it's been a year so I have no idea. But if it isn't in the video it wasn't interesting enough to put in
now i can finish this game after 22 years hahahahhahaha thanks
haha good luck!
Dia is very hard with summon necro in normal xD rest is kinda ok :D vex and ist damn xDDD
Yeah Vex and Ist in the span of like 20 minutes was bonkers.
Yeah Silence was a crazy good idea, so cool
I dont understand why people struggle with necro. The most easy is the summoner. Keep the rouge as merc. Put 3 tals in a bow!
Oh wow. Why did I never think of that. Makes life so much easier for a lot of builds
@@thenuclearrabbit for the beginning and normal is great. Poison is awesome. For the druid summon, Just cast the Wolfes and behind kill with poison. Druid and rouge with tal bows, is safe. Even necro works fine. You can clear a lot of Shit! Dont forget corpse Explosion booom
There is a Ranger build(Druid)with a witchwild string. It works fine! Cheap and good.
3 tals act 1 or 2 mercs is destroy normal
💯👍
How much time do you spend on 1 char?
Depends on the build. But somewhere between 12 and 20 hours usually. The really grindy ones take a bit longer.
rip 3" bro
3 inches of rip
why not buy teleport staff?
Because I don't want to :)
I named my summoner the same name!
Nice! The d2 books are awesome
Ahhhh as kinda expirienced summoner i can tell u, wrong curses half time ( correct curse and character positioning, and of course ce its your only job), and mages suck. Btw nice vid.
Thank you!
lumberg
Why not a metal golem eating some exceptional gear.
I'm sorry I don't remember why I didn't do that, this run was a long time ago at this point
@@thenuclearrabbit that's okay. just wondering.
I have a ton of upgraded shit I don't use on my chars on the switch and iron golem is basically unkillable plus any auras and effects of the item carry over.
Oh yeah I don't I basically sell everything I'm not using. I barely even fill up a stash tab on a normal run
@@kosterix123 ow, cool. So just feed this busted bow to a Golem.
summoner can beat normal difficulty compfortably on players 7/8 solo (in fact every class can given a bit of prep with runewords). not sure what you're doing. i guess /players 1 is harder cause you are underleveled all the time!?
I do players 8 at first but go to players 1 later in the run. I'm never underleveled I do the exact same leveling every single run for normal.
@@thenuclearrabbit whatever is the most fun for you. :) i usually do diablo at lvl ~31 and with decrepify my skeletons can take him down on players 7. no iron maiden needed.
@@fo0liner1985 Oh yeah no we have a very different thought on what underleveled means. At lvl 31 I am usually well into nightmare. But as you said. Just do whatever is fun for you. It's just a video game after all haha
@@thenuclearrabbit haha yea i rarely leave normal under lvl ~43 or so
19:16 it's pronounced as heh-mo-su.
Thank you!
Try ti gear up,then some ubers.
Decrepify on boss with clay golem.
That could also work for sure
Druid summoner please
Heroes who summon
Yeah
LUMBERGH
:D
Listen... I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come into work after you're dead. so if you could just do that that would be great
I love that movie so much
Can you do a druid summoner
I am getting a ton of requests for that. So, yes, absolutely
Yay
Kudos for using StarCraft music in ANOTHER Blizzard game.
The Starcraft music is so amazing, how could I not
you way better off going bone spear till hell and then swapping to summoner
Yes, but that would beat the point of doing a summoner run
@@thenuclearrabbit yeah I get it, it's just pain in the ass to beat bosses with iron maiden compared to running some sort of hybrid 1st and then go summon
First!