I hope they do more Magic videos after the sponsored stuff, it's so entertaining. I just got all of the expansion cards in Magic: Duels too, so it would be cool to see if they played a few rounds through that as well, since it's easier to record and all.
same would be awesome and it looks like they got sent a ton of cards so ton more magic game to play would be fun to watch and could get more of the yogs crew to join in and have 1 massive tournament but my guess would be as soon as this matches are over the contract will be fulfilled and they w ill abandon it which would be sad because as i said it looks like they gone a ton of cards sent to them
You guys forgot about the Vancouver mulligan rule! Before the first turn starts, players who chose to mulligan and are starting with fewer than 7 cards are allowed to scry 1.
+Ben Green Huh, whaddya know. That's interesting. Having said that I haven't been playing or actively following M:tG for about a couple of years now :p Still think its kinda op
Ernie Spratt Well, starting with 7 is still stronger than starting with 6. The goal with this rule was to help smooth out post-mulligan draws, hopefully leading to more interactive games as a result.
Avirosb and then i'm over here crying at some of the plays. WTF WAS THAT BLOCK ON THE FAMILIAR LEWIS!! it was almost objectively worse than the other block
Love the Magic playing here. The high competitive magic player wants so much to correct mistakes and chime in, but I think I just need to sit back and enjoy it.
Didn't they make a 60 card deck though? Still, 24 seems a bit high. I personally would have gotten 20 lands (maybe one or two more if they had some nice effects) and 40 others.
Raymond Benjamins It really depends on the style of deck. A control deck benefits from more lands, as does a ramp deck but something more aggressive may want a much lower total of lands. Pay attention to your curve when deckbuilding :)
TheIsaacMatthews Well, I personally always make pretty aggresive decks. I really like to play black with lots of small creatures (and a couple big ones) and lots of cards that can bring those creatures back from the graveyard.
Raymond Benjamins If you are playing a draft though, you don't want to lock yourself into an archetype early, but that's cool. In naya burn modern i play 19 lands (4 shocks, 2 basics, 2 copperline gorge and 11 fetchlands) but in blue moon i play 22 lands (2 shocks, 9 basics, 1 sulfur falls, 1 desolate lighthouse, 1 cascade bluffs and 8 blue fetches [currently 4 tarn, 1 misty, 2 delta and 1 strand]). It really depends on your curve though, some decks want even less lands.
Sometimes I miss my magic cards. I sold 98% of them years ago. I still have a fragment of some of my play decks.. my epic walls. Man, I loved walls. And apparently, flipping through those remnants, I had heavy green decks, all about giving me life whilst I wait for my heavy hitters.
Duncan won via not knowing the rules. The Ibex's didn't have 3/5 the whole game but only for only one attack so Lewis shouldn't lost as much life and Duncan couldn't have manned his vehicle
didn't Lewis' Ruinous Gremlin have summoning sickness until his next turn, he shouldn't be able to use its ability to sacrifies and destroy the artifact that turn, or am i wrong?
You roll and decide who goes first before looking at your hand. When you mulligan you may scry 1 after you decide you keep. (Scry: look at the top card of your library and decide to keep it there or put it on the bottom. This doesn't stack.)
1: Where did Duncan get the energy from each turn to "power" his goats to 3/5 creatures? 2: Lewis is suffering from amnesia or a like, he got a guy he can resurrect when playing an artifact. 3: There is probably more fails/misplays this is the Yogscast after all :-D
I don't think Lewis' creature still blocks that other creature when he sacrifices it though... same as killing off a blocker with an instant, once the blocker is gone the damage goes through
Evochio When a creature becomes blocked, the blocking creature blocks all damage to the player immediately (unless the blocked creature has trample), so after declaring it as a block, no matter what happens to it, the damage is blocked. However if you sacrificed a creature blocking a trampler, since the creature blocking it is no longer there, its default defense is set to zero. A creature with trample deals all damage exceeding the blocking creature's defense to the defending player so all damage would get through.
You really should determine who goes first before you look at your hand, and then each player decides to mulligan or keep, then everyone does however mulligans they will then everyone scry' simultaneously.
All combat damage is dealt simultaneously, unless something has first strike or double strike. The operative still had 3 power when it dealt damage and immediately after which state-based actions checks to see which creatures have been dealt lethal damage, which THEN results in the familiar dieing and it's trigger goes on the stack in the end of combat step. The only time assigning damage matters is when a creature is blocked by multiple creatures, THEN the attacker assigns the order in which combat damage is distributed to each of the blockers. For example, if attacker A has a 5/5 and defending player B has a 4/4 and a 2/2, the attacker can only kill 1 of them, because he's essentially facing a wall of 6 toughness over 2 creatures, so you assign an order for the damage your 5/5 is dealing. If you assign the first 4 damage to the 4/4 the remaining 1 damage has to be assigned to the 2/2, or vice versa, whichever you choose (sometimes you might want to kill a specific creature over another). This then gives the defending player a chance to save their creatures with pump spells, because the damage has already been assigned and the attacker can't just reassign afterwards.
Wait is that an actual rule that if a dying creature has a "sacrifice this creature" skill you can use the skill simultaneously while the creature is dying?
When they play the cards they show them but they should also use those pictures when there not playing their cards just like ok their respective sides of the screen
Fatmanboozer The lifelink creature will still deal the amount of damage equal to it's power to the opposing creature regardless of its toughness so no.
Thats now how it works in magic you heal for the power of the creature not the toughness of the creature you are hitting So hitting a 1/1 with a 10/10 life link would give you 10 life
That's not how it works. I've checked the rules more than once. You gain life equal to the amount of toughness. You gain life based on the amount of damage dealt, but the creature's toughness can only take so much damage.
Joshua N/A iv played magic for 4? 5 years I know how it works lol and you are correct you gain life based on the amount of damage dealt the creature still deals 2 damage despite the token creature only having 1 toughness Creatures deal damage based on there power not on the other cards toughness ( look up a life link game on UA-cam and you will see what I mean)
Once a creature is declared as a blocker, the attacking creature which is blocked by it will do no damage to the player for it is blocked. So after blockers are declared you can sacrifice the blocking creature to gain additional benefits from it, as it would die anyway.
something1random23 Took me some time to get used to it too :p It does sound weird and makes little sense, but if you follow the game phases it becomes logical.
If the creature attacking has trample however, then since it doesnt need to deal its damage to the creature to kill it, if it was sacrificed/destroyed then all the damage goes to the player.
You're seeing it the wrong way. It's not a dead creature being sacrificed. Imagine a creature that throws itself at the enemy as a diversion but in reality is doing something else (activate some ability). The enemy doesn't find out until it's late and can't divert the damage to the player. That creature sacrifices itself before the enemy kills it but the damage doesn't go to the player because they fell into the creatures trap. It's completely logical. Also, if the enemy has trample that tactic doesn't work because the damage that doesn't go to the creature goes to you. It's all in the steps of the game. The blocking stage is not the same as the damage dealing stage.
7 years later I barge in asking.. didn't he do the wrong mulligan? He only drew 6 cards and not 7, picking one to put at the bottom. Or was that rule changed after the time of filming?
I hope they do more Magic videos after the sponsored stuff, it's so entertaining. I just got all of the expansion cards in Magic: Duels too, so it would be cool to see if they played a few rounds through that as well, since it's easier to record and all.
I think they will
same would be awesome and it looks like they got sent a ton of cards so ton more magic game to play would be fun to watch and could get more of the yogs crew to join in and have 1 massive tournament but my guess would be as soon as this matches are over the contract will be fulfilled and they w ill abandon it which would be sad because as i said it looks like they gone a ton of cards sent to them
Ben the rule guy lol
6:45 The rules guy sounds like Ben...
Whos That Guy? maybe that's because the rules guy is ben
it's 6:31 pm in montreal
Mind blown.
its got to be Ben, right? He should duel the champion
He should wear some kind of costume whilst duelling the champion
You guys forgot about the Vancouver mulligan rule! Before the first turn starts, players who chose to mulligan and are starting with fewer than 7 cards are allowed to scry 1.
Never heard of that ruling or even seen it in practice. Sounds too op to be anything but a casual invention.
Ernie Spratt Really? It's been a rule for over a year now. magic.wizards.com
+Ben Green Huh, whaddya know. That's interesting. Having said that I haven't been playing or actively following M:tG for about a couple of years now :p
Still think its kinda op
Ernie Spratt Well, starting with 7 is still stronger than starting with 6. The goal with this rule was to help smooth out post-mulligan draws, hopefully leading to more interactive games as a result.
Have played with it and it helps :P
Lewis, Duncan got EVERYTHING he needed. The right cards & knowing EXACTLY what was in your hand!
lol... Lewis missed his daredevil trigger... Good Old Yogscast misplays!!
#dickinorbit
I feel like if Duncan hadn't reshuffled his hand at the beginning, this could have possibly turned out differently.
Absolutely love your magick stuff! Impatiently waiting for the next videos!
I’m just getting in to Magic, and this video was a lot of help to know the flow of a round!
wasn't there a creature on lewis' deck that came back from the graveyard when he played an artifact? did they forget about that?
yup he did. RIP all the strategizing
I'm glad I don't know jack shit about MTG.
Means I get to simply kick back and enjoy the back-and-forth :)
Avirosb same haha
Avirosb and then i'm over here crying at some of the plays. WTF WAS THAT BLOCK ON THE FAMILIAR LEWIS!! it was almost objectively worse than the other block
Love the Magic playing here.
The high competitive magic player wants so much to correct mistakes and chime in, but I think I just need to sit back and enjoy it.
Same
Still loving the Magic duels though.:D
duncan didn't scry with his mulligan
I did a couple of plays through's with Magic the Gathering. Such a good game. I need to do more in 2017.
Keep it up boys!
Lewis rolls 9, Duncan roles 11. 9/11. Harambe not dead confirmed?
Woo! Cant wait for more Magic! Love this channel! :)
can confirm, #AD has worked, really wnt to get into Magic now
CowMiner27 Yeah I gotta admit, I kinda wanna try it out xD
This video could've used some subtle background music.
wait is BEN the rules guy?
No
Typically when drafting a you want 17 lands to 23 other card types
Didn't they make a 60 card deck though? Still, 24 seems a bit high. I personally would have gotten 20 lands (maybe one or two more if they had some nice effects) and 40 others.
Raymond Benjamins It really depends on the style of deck. A control deck benefits from more lands, as does a ramp deck but something more aggressive may want a much lower total of lands. Pay attention to your curve when deckbuilding :)
TheIsaacMatthews Well, I personally always make pretty aggresive decks. I really like to play black with lots of small creatures (and a couple big ones) and lots of cards that can bring those creatures back from the graveyard.
Raymond Benjamins If you are playing a draft though, you don't want to lock yourself into an archetype early, but that's cool. In naya burn modern i play 19 lands (4 shocks, 2 basics, 2 copperline gorge and 11 fetchlands) but in blue moon i play 22 lands (2 shocks, 9 basics, 1 sulfur falls, 1 desolate lighthouse, 1 cascade bluffs and 8 blue fetches [currently 4 tarn, 1 misty, 2 delta and 1 strand]).
It really depends on your curve though, some decks want even less lands.
that would only be a 40-card deck , though. they have 60-card decks
Poor Lewis!
His deck review seemed so well thought through, but he was very unlucky with all his card draws!
Might've mounted a comeback had he not forgotten about his Daredevil.
Yeah, classic draft luck lol.
Loving the video. Never played the game myself, but it's really fun and interesting to see some semi-competent people play it ahah.
do more magic this is so awesome!
I love the kaladesh lands, so beautiful!
Ovalchase Daredevil does not have haste; it was not allowed to attack on the same turn it was cast.
Sometimes I miss my magic cards. I sold 98% of them years ago. I still have a fragment of some of my play decks.. my epic walls. Man, I loved walls. And apparently, flipping through those remnants, I had heavy green decks, all about giving me life whilst I wait for my heavy hitters.
If you mulligan at all at the beginning of the game, before either player begins you may scry 1.
I saw the ending coming a mile away.
Was that rules guy Ben? It sounded a bit like him. I could've guessed he'd know a lot about magic!
i love the art of magic the gathering
1:34 o,my,god IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
Duncan won via not knowing the rules. The Ibex's didn't have 3/5 the whole game but only for only one attack so Lewis shouldn't lost as much life and Duncan couldn't have manned his vehicle
Duncans hair is so elegant
Of course the first dice rolls are 9-11.
On an unrelated note, I wonder how many air vehicles Lewis has in his deck...
I hope the get into magic after this, I would love to see some EDH!
thats fairly unlikely since none of them play big time and edm requires a huge amoount of time and effort to learn
edh not edm
Brilliant! Heh heh, I have absolutely no idea what's going on.
Technically that shouldn't have hit for three after the Artifact died... it negates her talent. But still fun to watch.
I don't even play magic, and the land organization in this video is triggering.
Ben is the fuckin rules guy LOL
Do more of this pleeeease! :3
Don't think that both ibexes needed to be tapped to crew the vehicle...
"Rules Guy!" Thank fuck for Ben eh?
didn't Lewis' Ruinous Gremlin have summoning sickness until his next turn, he shouldn't be able to use its ability to sacrifies and destroy the artifact that turn, or am i wrong?
You roll and decide who goes first before looking at your hand.
When you mulligan you may scry 1 after you decide you keep. (Scry: look at the top card of your library and decide to keep it there or put it on the bottom. This doesn't stack.)
I hope they do some 4 player games of mtg.
what a turn of events
1: Where did Duncan get the energy from each turn to "power" his goats to 3/5 creatures?
2: Lewis is suffering from amnesia or a like, he got a guy he can resurrect when playing an artifact.
3: There is probably more fails/misplays this is the Yogscast after all :-D
can anyone tell me where i can listen to this intro?
courtesy of epidemic sound.
What on earth is that?
"It's a goat that walks up vertical cliffs" ... as opposed to horizontal cliffs.
14:43 FYI, put the wrong image for Duncan's stomper. Showed a plains land
He played a plains right before the stomper.
9:50 Lewis, you cannot activate the ability of one of your cards on the opponent's turn. it is not an instant!
The 2 ibexes shouldn't have been able to pilot the stomper right? They only have a total of 4 attack, not 5.
they had the +1/+1 counters on them
orangesilver8 Power, not attack. They had +1/+1 counters.
So mistakes in the play, but I would love to see more MTG from the yogs
This was amazing Lewis got his ass handed to him brilliant.
I don't think Lewis' creature still blocks that other creature when he sacrifices it though... same as killing off a blocker with an instant, once the blocker is gone the damage goes through
THEY ROLED 9/11 1:31
machine driven by gots. now I must get magic cards to get in the fun:)
The rules guy doesnt know the rules that well.
Trevor Mccord the rules guy was only Ben by the sounds of it
How can you sacrifice AND block with the same creature? Seems an odd rule when it would die from either and not be around for the other
Evochio When a creature becomes blocked, the blocking creature blocks all damage to the player immediately (unless the blocked creature has trample), so after declaring it as a block, no matter what happens to it, the damage is blocked. However if you sacrificed a creature blocking a trampler, since the creature blocking it is no longer there, its default defense is set to zero. A creature with trample deals all damage exceeding the blocking creature's defense to the defending player so all damage would get through.
Henry Anoatubby That isnt entirely correct, but my correction would be purely semantic.
Alright thanks. Seems highly unintuitive to me though.
Trevor Mccord thanks for not being *that* guy.
You really should determine who goes first before you look at your hand, and then each player decides to mulligan or keep, then everyone does however mulligans they will then everyone scry' simultaneously.
Secret ben.
Is there a schedule for this channel?
Uuuum actually, 'pushes glasses up' *combat damage* is delt in an order the atacker chooses.
So if he delt damage to the creature blocking the artifact and killed it in the process, the other creature immediately loses its buff against lewis.
All combat damage is dealt simultaneously, unless something has first strike or double strike. The operative still had 3 power when it dealt damage and immediately after which state-based actions checks to see which creatures have been dealt lethal damage, which THEN results in the familiar dieing and it's trigger goes on the stack in the end of combat step.
The only time assigning damage matters is when a creature is blocked by multiple creatures, THEN the attacker assigns the order in which combat damage is distributed to each of the blockers. For example, if attacker A has a 5/5 and defending player B has a 4/4 and a 2/2, the attacker can only kill 1 of them, because he's essentially facing a wall of 6 toughness over 2 creatures, so you assign an order for the damage your 5/5 is dealing. If you assign the first 4 damage to the 4/4 the remaining 1 damage has to be assigned to the 2/2, or vice versa, whichever you choose (sometimes you might want to kill a specific creature over another). This then gives the defending player a chance to save their creatures with pump spells, because the damage has already been assigned and the attacker can't just reassign afterwards.
Pleasant.
did he not forget to pay 2 colorless and 1 red to sacrifice the goblin?
How did Dunc do a crew 5 with a total of only 4 power on the last turn? I mean, Lewis was screwed anyway, so whatever, but still.
Richard Barbaros Both the Ibexes had a +1/+1 counter on them from the energy he spent.
Bork Laser Ah, didn't notice that bit. Well, there's that cleared up, ty!
He spent energy to power them up.
The Ibexes both had a +1+1 counter on them, so they had a combined power of 6.
Wait is that an actual rule that if a dying creature has a "sacrifice this creature" skill you can use the skill simultaneously while the creature is dying?
It's not simultaneously, it's after blockers are declared but before damage is assigned.
So yes, it's an actual rule.
Mathieu Bayana It's called an activated ability.
When they play the cards they show them but they should also use those pictures when there not playing their cards just like ok their respective sides of the screen
Want the next video!
Shouldn't of the life link only gained one life as the unit it hit only had one defence?
Fatmanboozer The lifelink creature will still deal the amount of damage equal to it's power to the opposing creature regardless of its toughness so no.
hey is that giant sword behind lewis real ? if so thats badass
:D i didn't know duncan is in slytherin
Misplay by Lewis near the end there. The servo he blocked only had 1 defense. So, he would have only gained 1 life from that.
Thats now how it works in magic you heal for the power of the creature not the toughness of the creature you are hitting
So hitting a 1/1 with a 10/10 life link would give you 10 life
That's not how it works. I've checked the rules more than once. You gain life equal to the amount of toughness. You gain life based on the amount of damage dealt, but the creature's toughness can only take so much damage.
Joshua N/A iv played magic for 4? 5 years I know how it works lol and you are correct you gain life based on the amount of damage dealt the creature still deals 2 damage despite the token creature only having 1 toughness
Creatures deal damage based on there power not on the other cards toughness ( look up a life link game on UA-cam and you will see what I mean)
I've played it for over 20 years. So, I know what I'm talking about.
Joshua N/A well I'm calling bs if you dont know how lifelink works
It was a ruinous GREMLIN not a goblin
PogChamp
Ben the rules man
Duncan, stack your mana.... for the love of god.. x-x
Rule guy on point.
Lewis doesn't gain 2 life from hitting a 1/1 with his 2/2 with lifelink ;;
Is rules guy just ben?
You want 22 to 24 land.
was ben the rule dude?
I think they said during the draft that they have a Wizards employee or maybe a judge watching.
Sounds like Ben d00d
wrong it hits for 2
is rules guy the cam man
RULSE GUY (also known as ben)
The fuck are these rules? How can you use a creature to block if you are sacrificing it for another power?
Once a creature is declared as a blocker, the attacking creature which is blocked by it will do no damage to the player for it is blocked. So after blockers are declared you can sacrifice the blocking creature to gain additional benefits from it, as it would die anyway.
something1random23 Took me some time to get used to it too :p It does sound weird and makes little sense, but if you follow the game phases it becomes logical.
If the creature attacking has trample however, then since it doesnt need to deal its damage to the creature to kill it, if it was sacrificed/destroyed then all the damage goes to the player.
You're seeing it the wrong way. It's not a dead creature being sacrificed. Imagine a creature that throws itself at the enemy as a diversion but in reality is doing something else (activate some ability). The enemy doesn't find out until it's late and can't divert the damage to the player. That creature sacrifices itself before the enemy kills it but the damage doesn't go to the player because they fell into the creatures trap. It's completely logical. Also, if the enemy has trample that tactic doesn't work because the damage that doesn't go to the creature goes to you.
It's all in the steps of the game. The blocking stage is not the same as the damage dealing stage.
something1random23 Don't lash out because you can't comprehend a simple game rule.
Get day9 on as a guest as a callback to spellslingers
Better yet yogscast make spellslingers a thing again geek and sundry discontinued it
I think Wizards were funding Spellslingers and they stopped or something, that is why GS discontinued the show :(
justsharki aww...well then wizards listen up and make spellslingers a thing again
justsharki is correct. Wizards pulled out of the contract.
Lewis "loose plays" Brindley
yesssssssss😁😁😁
Kappa
i challenge you lewis to a game of yugioh ;)
slp cagim eroM
Soooo boring i mean normally when i watch these type of magic games i get entertainment but this is plain boring (no offense thought)
lewis is bad at magic lol
7 years later I barge in asking.. didn't he do the wrong mulligan? He only drew 6 cards and not 7, picking one to put at the bottom.
Or was that rule changed after the time of filming?