He said it best 'Hindu secularists and liberals are more disappointed than Muslims'. I would add any person who is a strong believer in the rule of law would also be greatly disappointed.
This is calm and calculated is extremely well orchestrated Islamic propaganda. Be clear that Thapar repeats and reinforces for the audience statements by the so-called professor, to brainwash the audience. To be clear the muslim rulers, out of spite demolished the temple and built a mosque, on top of it, just because the could, and humiliate the hindus, who were weak at that time. Thank god for the likes of LK Advani who has right the wrong. Screw the 2 speakers here who are manipulating the facts to confuse the audience. The state British names to give credence to their conclusions.
@@vijaynair6161 can't agree more. Fact of the matter is they are conveniently disregarding the archeological research done by 'KK Muhammed' who found concrete evidence of temple. KK Muhammed, a true Indian muslim who these 'compulsive haters' must be hating as he completely defeats their divisive narrative.
ua-cam.com/video/H8eIJJEe2DQ/v-deo.html *_Dear Supreme Court of India,_* Let me tell you that you have compromise your Integrity by giving a *_False Verdict_* based on *_Beliefs and Faith_* rather than *_Evidences and Facts_* which led to the undeniable Injustice on the certain members of the Community & Months later, Chief Justice of India *_Ranjan Gogoi_* under whom that Immoral Verdict was given......was provided with *_Rajya Sabha Membership_* by the *_Modi Government_* and this itself testify to a big *_Nexus or Conspiracy_* between the *_Government and Supreme Court._* *_Over the board Celebration and Claiming Victory over someone's Injustice is neither a Victory nor Celebration but is LAUGHABLE CHILDISH ACT._* *_Lord Ram_* would be pleased with us for our Sacrifice of that *_Acres of land in Ayodhya_* for Peace and Communal Harmony since Lord Ram himself have Sacrificed a lot for Humanity and fought for the cause of Justice. Your *_Unjustified verdict_* won't make a disputed site at Ayodhya *_Lord Ram's abode_* because *_He never associate himself with Injustice._* ua-cam.com/video/uoGZHM6lTmY/v-deo.html Vinod Dua Show: 329
Brilliant...first rate... gem of an interview, provided perspectives on the various facets of the historic verdict. KUDOS to both the stalwarts: the tough guy, Karan Thapar and the erudite, Prof Faizan Mustafa for an enlightening, engaging and intellectually stimulating session !!!
Putty Ankit Kr Official you don’t need to be hindu/muslim virodhi, just be a rational person.... is this the face you’ll show lord ram in heaven? Hypocrite..... journalism is about keeping religion and shit aside and report the facts....Is that causing you pain in the ass?
@@Puttyankit11music whoever questions or criticizes modi is "hindu birodhi" and "pro muslim". Example: Ravish kumar... questions modi ... Hindu virodhi Dhruv Rathee... criticizes modi ... Hindu virodhi Abhisar Sharma... questions modi ... Hindi virodhi Barkha Dutt... criticizes modi ... Hindu virodhi. Karan Thapar... Not only questioned modi, also nailed him ... Maha hindu virodi 😁😁
@@Puttyankit11music exactly. After watching Karan's various interviews I realized that he is so anti-hindu. This interview is very lopsided. they don't want to talk about the Hindu evidence.
Another fantastic interview. Thank you. This is a dark example of how might is more than logic and morality in our country of the uneducated and easily impressionable.
Mr logic where is logic in faith..does Allah or any god has any logic or proof..it's just belief..let us fight a case on existence of Allah with ur logic and morality🤣
@@cricketglobe6659 my dear friend. What you rightly pointed out works both ways. There is no logic or proof of any God. Then why involve a subject like this in courts of law (what are supposed to be based on reason and logic) in the first place. I am not saying any side is wrong to believe, believe what you want... But it's wrong to conflate with matters of justice. And both sides are guilty of this.
Sleeping with dead women to hv xxx is allowed in some faiths 😂😂😂 rumal lapet ke maa aur behen ko bhi xxx allowed😂😂 g#nd me datoon dalkr bache paida krte hai kuch kitab😂
Justice Loya died the death of a lion. What honor is in living the life of a coward. (Even I'm not brave enough maybe mujh pe aayega to shayad main b chup ho jaun. But who fought bravely deserves to be pointed out)
@@wasimansari9894 very cleverly they do not mention the archeological evidence given by k.k. Mohammad which clearly points to the fact that originally there was a temple.
@@krishnanb.s.5581 exactly. Karan thapar seems to be very anti-hindu. I had noticed that in all his interviews. this interview shows they don't want to talk about the Hindu evidence.
Good interview & very fair points.... but would the same interview would have happened if the verdict was the other way? that's where media looses its credibility however the excellent the discussion is... I respect Faizan Mustafa who walked on a tight rope to put forward this views without a hint of provoking anyone...huge applause!!
If the verdict went the other way then obviously nothing would be wrong with it. From the video it became apparent that this was the worst possible Judgement. Why would you say very fair points and then pretend as if the opposite judgement would be equally terrible?
sreenivas parthasarathy in that case half of the population would have been wiped out with the political tool called riots..... we would have seen end game before it’s concept was even thought of
Karan I love it when you break a question into so many sub questions and make the person sitting across answer it is just fantastic, ur just fabulous Karan Thapar
If I'm not wrong You are the one on Twitter...who as written wonderful article on Bofors scam about congress. It was very good thread that describes about how bjp politisize the issue.
@@user-ws3st7hu2l quote the complete hadees and not few parts . Next part is qayamat will happen . That is universe destruction and final judgement . Thus if part a of hadees deemed to ve correct then part b should also believed .
Agreed bro. Mr thomas done a very good research on Twitter about Bofors that how the BJP tried very hard to malign mr. Gandhi image about Bofors. Still they can't find anything wrong in that deal. Mr.Thomas explains this with proper documentation on his twitter timeline.
High time professor saab turns judge now !! He is so intelligent n knowledgeable! Let there be right judgements at his hands InshaaAllah. Kudos to the Wire team for putting this beautiful conversation together. Such an eye opener n the rightful will agree.
@@rohitchoudhary8100 हम भगवान बना सकते हैं परन्तु अल्ल्लाह नहीं क्योंकि अल्ल्लाह का कोई जन्मदिन नहीं मनाया जाता है जबकि अनेकों भगवान के जन्मदिन मनाया जाता है!
A very dangerous Faizan Mustafa who is obviously a hard core jihadi. Watch out Hindus. This guy is very dangerous. Can you imagine how many students he has brainwashed by his clever manipulation.
38:19 -- In October 2024 i.e. four years later, CJI Chandrachod has declared that he wrote the judgment inspired, guided and mentored by Ram Lala or Lord Rama.
Karan Thapar is a great and the most intelligent journalist and he is a loyal, honest, and hundred percent dedicated to his work as a responsible journalist 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
Karan thapar thanks for inviting Faizan Mustafa to discuss with critical subjects so prople of all community can learn what is behind the scenes happening.
Why did it take a historical judgement to get Karan to do an interview? Mr. Thapar please be more regular. Some of us actually doggedly wait for these uploads. P.s. loved it!
@@adruvitpandit5816 ummm ok. If there was insidious sarcasm I failed to catch it. And if there wasn't any my comment is not an invitation for polemic argument siding any religion. So why did u do it again?
@@adruvitpandit5816 Karan you have become dog. You are blatantly lying. Why? ua-cam.com/video/sQUqxaHFYF4/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/pinIMhUGOYI/v-deo.html There are enough evidence to prove how much nonsense you both are talking. Splitting hair and avoiding the crucial facts.
I am so disturbed by LIES from all around the world by all people that I come back to watch this video again and again just to energise my faith in humanity..!! i wish I could like this video everytime I watch it..!! God Bless the both of you..and the Wire team..!!
As an Indian citizen, I agree with you. Had the courts given the reasoning that now mosque isn't there and they are looking at the majoritarian sentiments thereby favoring a party that entered the case in 1989 I would have considered that logic for a brief moment. But rejecting all the claims made by the winning party while putting a greater proof of burden on the loosing party was a cold blooded planned murder of justice.
Fred Matthew Well, a British law student speculating about Indian judicial system is a cliche in itself. Does British court of law run civil proceedings based on distinct legal framework outlined on the basis of religions, such as Muslim laws for one community and Hindu laws for other. Apparently, listening to these schmucks on the video with a fancy title is nothing more then attending some session discussing hidden message of science of reproduction behind Shakespeare’s literature. Didn’t i sound absurd ? Likewise, these guys did to me.
The clinching evidence is the archeology report which conclusively proved the masjid built over pre existing mandir. Watch K K Muhammads videos on youtube. Possesion is thus excluded based on forceful uptake of land by the other side.
Brilliant interview. I particularly liked the quoting of justice ganguly n how prof mustafa clarified what he felt in this case. Absolute must watch for those who take false pride n have celebrated such verdicts.
Oh what a gem of an interview! I watch Faizaan bhai's channel so I know how knowledgeable he is, but had not realised how deep he had gone into this case. And Karan ... what a wonderful journalist. He has made himself so aware of the the entire issue that he can ask the most erudite and pertinent questions of his distinguished guest. Wah maja aa gaya...and certainly whether they say it or not, I definitely know now this was a poor judgement by a compromised court
Karan you have become dog. You are blatantly lying. Why? ua-cam.com/video/sQUqxaHFYF4/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/pinIMhUGOYI/v-deo.html There are enough evidence to prove how much nonsense you both are talking. Splitting hair and avoiding the crucial facts. .. 1 MM Utube
Anti Hindu frauds, it's not about BJP. This prof is lying through his teeth, on the case, on the historicity of the temple, on the evidences available and judgement itself. sick Fraud!!!
@@dtab281 Only if you care to know the facts and not live in denial. I have posted to links here is the third and simpler version esp for you. ua-cam.com/video/GXewqwiq-Hw/v-deo.html
because that would have differentiated it from discussion to argument. The point is arguments have been made, what is under discussion is the objective dissection of the courts judgement.
crystal clear, or pure lie. Do these guys no know That Ramaya is 3000 BC scripture mentioning Ayodhya and Lord Ram. Seconldy it has been proven in court Scanda Purana describes the exact place where Lord Ram born. Scanda purana is also proven to be written in 7th-9th century. these two guys are telling pure lies.
@Mohammad Naseem Khan Balmimiki ka naam suna hai tumane, bhutani ke? pahale tum pata karo is dunia ke hee ho ya aaj hee mars se aaye ho. ki tumhen ramayan ka naam nahi pata aur aa jate ho bahas karane
@Mohammad Naseem Khan tum do kaudi ke insan, jindagi me kuch padha ya suna bhee hai. tum andhon ke liye yah thoda sa sample hai balkimik ramayan ka: तस्यां पुर्यामयोध्यायां वेदवित्सर्वसंग्रहः | दीर्घदर्शी महातेजाः पौरजानपदप्रियः || १-६-१ इक्ष्वाकूणामतिरथो यज्वा धर्मपरो वशी | महर्षिकल्पो राजर्षिः त्रिषु लोकेषु विश्रुतः || १-६-२ बलवान्निहतामित्रो मित्रवान्विजितेन्द्रियः | धनैश्च संचयैश्चान्यैः शक्रवैश्रवणोपमः || १-६-३ यथा मनुर्महातेजा लोकस्य परिरक्षिता | तथा दशरथो राजा लोकस्य परिरक्षिता || १-६-४ He who is well-versed in Veda-s, who is a gatherer of all scholars, riches and forces as well, a foreseer and a great resplendent one, also one who is esteemed by urbanites and countrymen alike, one who is a top-speeded chariot-warrior among the emperors of Ikshwaku kings, one who has performed many Vedic rituals, a virtuous one, a great controller, a saint-like kingly sage, one who he is renowned in all the three worlds, a mighty one with all his enemies eradicated, nevertheless who has friends, one who conquered all his senses, one who is similar to Indra, or Kubera on earth with his wealth, accumulations and other possessions, he that king Dasharatha while dwelling in the city of Ayodhya protected the world, like Manu, the foremost protector of mankind. [1-6-3,4,5] तेन सत्याभिसंधेन त्रिवर्गमनुतिष्ठता | पालिता सा पुरी श्रेष्ठा इन्द्रेणेवामरावती || १-६-५ He that truth-abiding king, who adheres to the three-fold virtues rules the vast of that kingdom from that best city Ayodhya, as Indra rules heaven from his capital Amaravati. [1-6-5] तस्मिन्पुरवरे हृष्टा धर्मात्मानो बहुश्रुताः | नरास्तुष्टा धनैः स्वैः स्वैरलुब्धाः सत्यवादिनः ||१-६-६ In that best city Ayodhya all are exuberant yet virtuous ones, and scholars are variously learned ones, people are satisfied with their own riches, they have no greed, and they advocate truthfulness alone. [1-6-6] नाल्पसंनिचयः कश्चिदासीत्तस्मिन्पुरोत्तमे | कुटुंबी यो ह्यसिद्धार्थोऽगवाश्वधनधान्यवान् || १-६-७ None with meagre accumulations is there in that great city and no householder is there without unearned means, and without cows, horses, monies or cereals and who could not sustain his family. [1-6-7] कामी वा न कदर्यो वा नृशंसः पुरुषः क्वचित् | द्रष्टुं शक्यमयोध्यायां नाविद्वान्न च नास्तिकः || १-६-८ None can see a lustful person, or a miser or a cruel one anywhere in that Ayodhya, along with nondescripts or non-believers, for there are no such persons. [1-6-8]
A very encouraging point was made by Prof. Mustafa that many secular, progressive and liberal Hindus are dissatisfied with the verdict than Muslims, who were in some sense,the direct parties to the case. Perhaps, the central reason for this is that each of those secular and progressive persons reading the judgment feel that each and every principal of law which has been invoked has been back-stabbed with faith.
All Muslims will support and praise Karan because he is talking against the Judgement of the court. But what amazes me is they never uttered a word during the case procedure. Looks very Biased and motivated.
India will thrive still you know why because like karan thapar being here still talk of justice even though he is hindu!Our nation will rise again and thrive!this bjp filth will go eventually
Judge Mustafa is exact and precise on his views. One group was asked to establish hard and solid proof and on the other hand other group is entertained by their beliefs. That's quite unfair. This shouldn't have been the way our Supreme Court dispensed justice. That's why we call this judgement as a prejudiciously cooked up and discriminating one to please the ruling party. Now I believe that the reward was Rajya Sabha Seat to C J. Shame on us and our legal system. That is where people doubt that. Shri Gogoi was chosen by government and collegium to suit their interests. That is why chief Justice of India hurried to close this case. Most important pillar of democracy was crumbled by being partial, which is a criminal activity.
Unfortunately, SC has contradicted its own statements! SC did not find evidence that there was Ram temple before. Yet the verdict was given based on the belief (aastha) of larger section of people!!
I like Faizan Mustafa's opinion more than the Supreme Court's decision although both have the same outcome.The fact that the Supreme Court did not want to do even that indicates towards some irregularities.
@@krishnanb.s.5581 All evidences were there. ASI was not able to conclude there was a temple or any religious structure there. SCs verdict is based on the fact that there was no namaz in that masjid for some time period and that means it's not an active mosque. If the mosque was not demolished,there would have been no temple today. But demolition was illegal and case is still pending.
Why only Quaran & why not other sacred text?? Then let's have a discussion on the Holy Gita, Vedas, Purans then on Bible and Guru Granth Sahib as well. Why so Selective??
It happens all over the world, the Quran itself promotes critical arguments, just search on you tube, you will find many debates of Ahmed deedat, Yasir Nadeem, Daniel Haquiqatju, Zakir Naik and many more, It's Tanatanies who runs away from the arguments over their scriptures 😂😂 where are the Baba on world religion debates 😂😂
Excellent discussion on the verdict of SC in the matter of Babri mosque. First the statues put in the mosque is called as illegal and than the demolition of mosque is also called as illegal by SC. There were no evidences found to prove that mosque was built by demolition of temple. However the mosque was demolished and after that the disputed land was given to build Ram temple. For the mosque , the land was allotted in Ayodhya itself. Ram temple is now already build and completed in January, 2024. However there was not put even a foundation stone for the mosque. Is the verdict of SC proper ? Is the verdict of SC seems legal ? What were the solid ground for SC to give verdict in favor of Ram temple ? Was Ram took birth on that particular place ? Mosque was built there in fact and it was standing there before it demolished and it was not temple that all know it including people of India, world, Govt, and judiciary also. These questions have no answers. However Muslims of India declared that they will accept the verdict of SC and they accepted it because they have trust on Indian judiciary and SC. Now it is for the citizens of our country who are believing in democracy and secular concept of nation. If majority citizens wishing to make India a Hindu Rastra , they can make it certainly.
Faizan Mustafa, you are a person of logic and your voice is one of reason and not of blind faith. People like you make me proud of having educated Muslims around me, you are much much better and above than those uneducated Muslims and Hindus who want to see just blood. May our country have more people like you, and may God give you more strength. To all my Indian folks - let's debate why we are being called India and not Bharat. Let's debate why our steets have potholes and trains have more people than we have seats. Let's debate poverty and illeteracy and garbage lying all around. Let's put a stop to this temple and mosque nonsense.
Assalamualaikum sir Faizan Mustafa finest quality of speech. Best explanation .. knowledge is vast. Good job sir..we Muslims appreciate you. Your hard work on it. May Allah bless you.
There is no evidence of a temple under Babri Masjid. It was a Buddhist site between 4th to 9th century which was later abandoned. A Muslim settlement came up in around 11th-12th century and built a small mosque on that abandoned site, and a bigger mosque was built by Babur in 1528. Talking about evidence, no Sanskrit text composed before the 16th century “lauded Ayodhya explicitly as the birthplace of Lord Rama, not even Valmiki’s Ramayana attributed its sanctity as a pilgrimage centre”.a Even Tulsidas' Ramcharitmanas, completed during Akbar’s reign in 1570, does not mention anything about a “Ram Janmasthan”. Tulsidas also never wrote about any desecration of a temple at Ayodhya. Neither Hiuen Tsang, the Chinese traveller who visited Ayodhya in the earlier half of the 7th century, nor Alberuni’s Kitab-e-Hind, compiled in the 11th century, make any reference to the town being celebrated as the birthplace of Lord Ram. Mir Baqi also didn't write anything about destroying a temple before building the mosque. Historians independently reported to the govt in 1991 that their study showed neither the existence of a temple on the site of the Babri Masjid nor of the destruction of any other structure there prior to the construction of the mosque. In 1993, archaeologist D. Mandal rubbished the claims of a section of archaeologists of the discovery of pillar bases which they said were the support of the stone pillars of a temple destroyed earlier. The ASI in 2003 report suppressed the findings of animal bones, glazed ware and glazed tiles, which were associated with Muslim settlement. Sources: 1. ASI's archaeological findings in Ayodhya: Short shrift to facts. Why historical and archaeological findings negate the presence of a temple. frontline.thehindu.com/cover-story/article30024814.ece 2. Understanding the archaeological aspects of the temple, mosque conundrum. www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/11/06/understanding-the-archaeological-aspects-of-the-temple-mosque-conundrum.html 3. There Is No Evidence Of A Temple Under The Babri Masjid, Just Older Mosques, Says Archeologist. Supriya Varma, one of the archaeologists who has challenged the ASI's 2003 findings, explains why the ASI is wrong. www.huffingtonpost.in/2018/12/04/there-is-no-evidence-of-a-temple-under-the-babri-masjid-asi-lied-to-the-country-say-archeologists_a_23604990/ 4. KK Muhammad was a student when he participated in the 1976-77 excavation. Here's why he might be wrong. timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/kk-muhammad-was-never-part-of-bb-lals-ayodhya-excavation-team-amu-prof/articleshow/71548782.cms 5. ASI Suppressed Animal Bone Findings At Mosque Site. Some experts say the cooked bone fragments prove a temple never existed at the site. www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/babri-asi-suppressed-animal-bone-findings-at-mosque-site_in_5c42c412e4b0a8dbe1718924 6. The Allahabad High Court had asked the ASI to report whether there had been a temple below the Babri Masjid. B R Mani was replaced as a team leader in two months. He was accused of compromising the procedures of the excavation. scroll.in/article/812543/why-a-court-ordered-the-new-national-museum-head-to-be-replaced-on-a-2003-ayodhya-excavation 7. Independent archaeologists dispute the ASI's report. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/ayodhya-india-babri-masjid-ram-temple-supreme-court-hearing-archaeology-a9153771.html 8. 103 independent experts say no evidence of a temple. www.telegraphindia.com/india/academics-call-for-ayodhya-verdict-review/cid/1719792 9. Evidence From Excavation Does Not Support ASI’s Conclusion About Temple. science.thewire.in/politics/ayodhya-dispute-excavation-evidence-temple-asi/ 10. Ayodhya Dispute Is a Battle Between Faith and Rationality, Says Historian D.N. Jha. In conversation with the noted historian on the history of the land dispute, how the issue was communalised, why he thinks it cannot be said that there was a temple under the Babri Masjid, and more. thewire.in/communalism/ayodhya-verdict-babri-masjid-ram-temple-dn-jha 11. Secret, Hurried and Anonymous When Convenient: Revisiting ASI’s Ayodhya Dig Report. science.thewire.in/the-sciences/secret-hurried-and-anonymous-when-convenient-revisiting-asis-ayodhya-dig-report/ 12. Ram is not a historical figure - www.timesofindia.com/india/For-historians-Ram-remains-a-myth/articleshow/2367074.cms 13. Ram is not a historical figure - www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/was-rama-based-real-historical-figure-007456
You mean that all 5 judges are still on the pay roll of Queen Elizabeth? India was already divided before the invasion of foreign ruler & British ruled on same division, the same is in place.
All your facts I totally agree. But why we as a Indian always fights on religion? Can we not move on and just concentrate on development. Modi was the one who bring hope but he is also playing the same cards like Nehru Britishers and every f****ng politician.
@waqas ahmed That was the most illiterate comment of the century. Firstly Gujarat riots were started by RADICALIZED MUSLIMS who burnt 59 Hindu pilgrims ALIVE at Godhara junction. I have seen the railway boggy. Secondly, SC has given a great decision ,solving over a century old problem, with proper evidence. Thirdly ,if Hindus start raising questions on belief of Muslims on existence of Prophet with 8 years old wife Aeysha , Mecca , Medina then Muslims will not like it. Fourthly, SC must get FOUNDATIONS of all Mosques dug out to confirm that they have not been built on old structures. If they are, then these Mosques should be designated as" HARAM" and demolished. This was done to break the moral of the locals to convert them to Islam which has to be rectified as Islam came from beyond the Hindukush. Finally, Hindus are the most tolerant people who have accepted Muslims to make a nation on the LAND OF HINDUSTAN, namely Pakistan plus Bangladesh, else it would have been an Israel-Palestine problem. So dear do try and read/analyse reality before giving any comments.
Excellent discussions held. Faizan Mustafa sir is an authority on Indian laws and judiciary matters hence his observations must be given top priorities
@ Tarun Kumar You are most probably correct. Even I am of the opinion of a similar lines . I am considering whether to go to Pakistan 🇵🇰 ? What about you ? What do you have in your mind ? Please let me know
@@srk7479 Stay back and change the state of our Nation. The opposition to the current ruling party should be the educated and logical youth of today and not yet any other corrupt political party.
@@reshmamalik9521 you seem to be joking about the political situation. There are already enuf number of political parties. We have to somehow elect them and see the capacity of those smaller parties. There is no need of a person who has everything but no intrest to stay in this place to be stopped from leaving. One person can do nothing here except than casting vote.
@@srk7479 really ? N who in their right mind feels one should leave India for Pakistan ? Anyone who questions the system need not go to Pakistan. Its ridiculous! Never before have we faced such reactions in solidarity to the govt.
I wish they could have done this interview in hindi or urdu...majority of indians are not english speaking people. anyway it is an excellent interview.
Chalo ab koi ye nahi kahenga ke mandir todkar masjid banayi gayi thi kyuke ye sabit nahi hua court mein isliye aasta ka sahara lekar mandir ke paksh mein faisla diya gaya, lekin ab puri duniya ye zaroor kahengi ke ek Masjid todkar Ram ka mandir banaya gaya aur isse koi jhutla nahi sakega. Toh mere hindu bhaiyo khush hojao Aapne apni Aatma aur bhagwan dono ko dhoka dediya hai .
No it is not like that.The muslim attack under leadership of local promimnant person and bairagis defended Hanuman Gadhi and Ram JanmBhumi results in fierce fight.
Bad analogy .... but then again, only a certain community are blatently 'legally' permitted more than one wife .... a threat held over their womenfolk!
Why would Hindus go out of way and pray in a mosque? This is not a debate, its a monologue from one side. It would have been better discussion if we had a representative from other side as well.
You have pointed out exactly what I have sensed even in first ten minutes of this interview. When Karan is interviewing few political leaders and celebrities , he used to ask questions where they start to struggle and struck for answers, but rather, here he is asking only yes or no questions. And he may call himself as interviewer or moderated journalist. Pseudo moderators. It is also the strategy of N.Ram of Hindu daily.
My respect for Faizan Mustafa sir has grown by leaps and bounds.
His Panditya,balance and clarity of expression are simply 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Faizan Mustafa I suppose honest to the core. I also hear his discourses with Ravesh kumar....
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@@premnath9270He joins discussion with fascist and communal elements only.
He said it best 'Hindu secularists and liberals are more disappointed than Muslims'. I would add any person who is a strong believer in the rule of law would also be greatly disappointed.
Karan u r gem, also faizan sb, u both hv torn the CJI judgement in to pieces... Heartiest congrats
Real andhbhakt s view.
Brilliant commentary on the judgement and Prof Mustafa’s knowledge on the constitution and law is seriously impressive! 👏👏👏👏
Both speak like gentlemen, no shouting, no screaming, just polite discussions
A big relief from the constant gibberish going on in the televised media
They don't need to shout. Both are in complete agreement in terms of propaganda they are spreading
This is calm and calculated is extremely well orchestrated Islamic propaganda. Be clear that Thapar repeats and reinforces for the audience statements by the so-called professor, to brainwash the audience.
To be clear the muslim rulers, out of spite demolished the temple and built a mosque, on top of it, just because the could, and humiliate the hindus, who were weak at that time. Thank god for the likes of LK Advani who has right the wrong.
Screw the 2 speakers here who are manipulating the facts to confuse the audience. The state British names to give credence to their conclusions.
@@vijaynair6161 can't agree more. Fact of the matter is they are conveniently disregarding the archeological research done by 'KK Muhammed' who found concrete evidence of temple. KK Muhammed, a true Indian muslim who these 'compulsive haters' must be hating as he completely defeats their divisive narrative.
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*_Dear Supreme Court of India,_*
Let me tell you that you have compromise your Integrity by giving a *_False Verdict_* based on *_Beliefs and Faith_* rather than *_Evidences and Facts_* which led to the undeniable Injustice on the certain members of the Community
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Months later, Chief Justice of India *_Ranjan Gogoi_* under whom that Immoral Verdict was given......was provided with *_Rajya Sabha Membership_* by the *_Modi Government_* and this itself testify to a big *_Nexus or Conspiracy_* between the *_Government and Supreme Court._*
*_Over the board Celebration and Claiming Victory over someone's Injustice is neither a Victory nor Celebration but is LAUGHABLE CHILDISH ACT._*
*_Lord Ram_* would be pleased with us for our Sacrifice of that *_Acres of land in Ayodhya_* for Peace and Communal Harmony since Lord Ram himself have Sacrificed a lot for Humanity and fought for the cause of Justice.
Your *_Unjustified verdict_* won't make a disputed site at Ayodhya *_Lord Ram's abode_* because *_He never associate himself with Injustice._*
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Brilliant...first rate... gem of an interview, provided perspectives on the various facets of the historic verdict. KUDOS to both the stalwarts: the tough guy, Karan Thapar and the erudite, Prof Faizan Mustafa for an enlightening, engaging and intellectually stimulating session !!!
Sorry to say that a conversation where things are termed laughable can't be a mature discussion. Biases of both parties are coming out in open
Stalwarts 😂 both are sadak chap chapri..they dont hv balls to come in live tv debates useless fellow
Two intellectuals discussing the BabriMasjid issue is great But Muslim all over India have shown patience and that is appreciable
what would have happened if they had not showed patience?
@@vaibhavrothe3820 Nothing!!!! Isn't that why you are asking?!
Finally finally a true conservative platform . Fantastic daily wire has gone to India .
True conversation.... Totally laughable.. 😂😂
bais of both is clearly visible.
@@amritKumar-fk4uq updated : yes I agree with you . Both sides are indeed laughable 😂
@@amritKumar-fk4uq in the land of hindu it takes us 70 years to make a temple 🤣🤣🤣
An imaginary personality was born in Ayodhya which was previously a budhist place.
There's not a single representative of Ksatriya caste in the Ram mandir trust. In fact all the members are Brahmins except for one who is an SC.
I regret calling him a jackass after seeing only 1 of his video. He is a true journalist.
Hi is totaly #Hindu virodhi and muslims support just check him out and find it ...
Putty Ankit Kr Official you don’t need to be hindu/muslim virodhi, just be a rational person.... is this the face you’ll show lord ram in heaven? Hypocrite..... journalism is about keeping religion and shit aside and report the facts....Is that causing you pain in the ass?
@@Puttyankit11music whoever questions or criticizes modi is "hindu birodhi" and "pro muslim".
Example:
Ravish kumar... questions modi ... Hindu virodhi
Dhruv Rathee... criticizes modi ... Hindu virodhi
Abhisar Sharma... questions modi ... Hindi virodhi
Barkha Dutt... criticizes modi ... Hindu virodhi.
Karan Thapar... Not only questioned modi,
also nailed him ... Maha hindu virodi
😁😁
@@Puttyankit11music exactly. After watching Karan's various interviews I realized that he is so anti-hindu. This interview is very lopsided. they don't want to talk about the Hindu evidence.
Thank you so much to both of you for this enlightening interview. 🙏💖👍
Watch minakshi Jain for better conclusion
One intellectual constitutional law expert and one pragmatic & intellectual journalist - absolutely interesting and eye opening discussion.
Another fantastic interview. Thank you. This is a dark example of how might is more than logic and morality in our country of the uneducated and easily impressionable.
Mr logic where is logic in faith..does Allah or any god has any logic or proof..it's just belief..let us fight a case on existence of Allah with ur logic and morality🤣
@@cricketglobe6659 my dear friend. What you rightly pointed out works both ways. There is no logic or proof of any God. Then why involve a subject like this in courts of law (what are supposed to be based on reason and logic) in the first place. I am not saying any side is wrong to believe, believe what you want... But it's wrong to conflate with matters of justice. And both sides are guilty of this.
Anirban don’t show your communist mindset here. A grand temple existed before Babur demolished it, and it has clearly been proven.
Sleeping with dead women to hv xxx is allowed in some faiths 😂😂😂 rumal lapet ke maa aur behen ko bhi xxx allowed😂😂 g#nd me datoon dalkr bache paida krte hai kuch kitab😂
First seven minutes of the interview makes things crystal clear. Fantastic interview.
Ranjan gogoi surely didn't want Loya's fate.
Justice Loya died the death of a lion. What honor is in living the life of a coward.
(Even I'm not brave enough maybe mujh pe aayega to shayad main b chup ho jaun. But who fought bravely deserves to be pointed out)
@@wasimansari9894 turning down a bribe of 100cr and then being poisoned is something to be reckoned.
Sayantan Talukdar yeah men justice loya
And his son statement was terrible
@@wasimansari9894 very cleverly they do not mention the archeological evidence given by k.k. Mohammad which clearly points to the fact that originally there was a temple.
Morning walk is a must
Admire Karan Thapar's skills during interviews. Very clear and specific. No ambiguity. No nonsense....
Haven’t watched such dignified analysis on this issue, this one is a gem...
He is not Discussing the Existance of Ram Temple Before Mosque was built after demolishing it.
@@krishnanb.s.5581 exactly. Karan thapar seems to be very anti-hindu. I had noticed that in all his interviews. this interview shows they don't want to talk about the Hindu evidence.
Good interview & very fair points.... but would the same interview would have happened if the verdict was the other way? that's where media looses its credibility however the excellent the discussion is... I respect Faizan Mustafa who walked on a tight rope to put forward this views without a hint of provoking anyone...huge applause!!
If the verdict went the other way then obviously nothing would be wrong with it. From the video it became apparent that this was the worst possible Judgement.
Why would you say very fair points and then pretend as if the opposite judgement would be equally terrible?
sreenivas parthasarathy in that case half of the population would have been wiped out with the political tool called riots..... we would have seen end game before it’s concept was even thought of
sreenivas parthasarathy there wouldn't be interviews but riots.. Nasty riots to kill Muslims like what happened in Gujrat 2001 and Delhi 2020..
Karan I love it when you break a question into so many sub questions and make the person sitting across answer it is just fantastic, ur just fabulous Karan Thapar
Some intelligent conversations. Got good perspectives on the issue.
If I'm not wrong You are the one on Twitter...who as written wonderful article on Bofors scam about congress. It was very good thread that describes about how bjp politisize the issue.
@@user-ws3st7hu2l quote the complete hadees and not few parts . Next part is qayamat will happen . That is universe destruction and final judgement . Thus if part a of hadees deemed to ve correct then part b should also believed .
@@gauravsingh1608 seriously? Bofors was a scam, any doubts remain?
Shameless lies and obfuscation !!
Agreed bro. Mr thomas done a very good research on Twitter about Bofors that how the BJP tried very hard to malign mr. Gandhi image about Bofors. Still they can't find anything wrong in that deal. Mr.Thomas explains this with proper documentation on his twitter timeline.
High time professor saab turns judge now !! He is so intelligent n knowledgeable! Let there be right judgements at his hands InshaaAllah. Kudos to the Wire team for putting this beautiful conversation together. Such an eye opener n the rightful will agree.
What a knowledgable person is Faizan Mustafa. Bravo.
A jihadi in disguise.
Haan Allah bna do usse😂😂😂
@@rohitchoudhary8100 हम भगवान बना सकते हैं परन्तु अल्ल्लाह नहीं क्योंकि अल्ल्लाह का कोई जन्मदिन नहीं मनाया जाता है जबकि अनेकों भगवान के जन्मदिन मनाया जाता है!
Sarfaraz Sayed he z sophistic..he spinned as he want ..I have his many videos he z grt at concocting lies
A very dangerous Faizan Mustafa who is obviously a hard core jihadi. Watch out Hindus. This guy is very dangerous. Can you imagine how many students he has brainwashed by his clever manipulation.
38:19 -- In October 2024 i.e. four years later, CJI Chandrachod has declared that he wrote the judgment inspired, guided and mentored by Ram Lala or Lord Rama.
Good to meet a person who has greater objectivity than a SC Judge.
Excellent interview
Excellent answers,it changed a lot of my perception
Karan Thapar is a great and the most intelligent journalist and he is a loyal, honest, and hundred percent dedicated to his work as a responsible journalist 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
Karan thapar thanks for inviting Faizan Mustafa to discuss with critical subjects so prople of all community can learn what is behind the scenes happening.
Why did it take a historical judgement to get Karan to do an interview? Mr. Thapar please be more regular. Some of us actually doggedly wait for these uploads.
P.s. loved it!
@@adruvitpandit5816 ummm ok. If there was insidious sarcasm I failed to catch it. And if there wasn't any my comment is not an invitation for polemic argument siding any religion. So why did u do it again?
@@samriddhachakraborty2382 You have a point I was just expressing my frustration with this judgement. Just deleted it.
@@adruvitpandit5816 Ah! We are on the same side then. Cheers!
@@samriddhachakraborty2382 Yes and Thanks!
@@adruvitpandit5816 Karan you have become dog. You are blatantly lying. Why?
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There are enough evidence to prove how much nonsense you both are talking. Splitting hair and avoiding the crucial facts.
I am so disturbed by LIES from all around the world by all people that I come back to watch this video again and again just to energise my faith in humanity..!!
i wish I could like this video everytime I watch it..!!
God Bless the both of you..and the Wire team..!!
Atleast to British law student like me, the Indian Supreme court judgement on such an importat issue is completely devoid of reasoning.
As an Indian citizen, I agree with you. Had the courts given the reasoning that now mosque isn't there and they are looking at the majoritarian sentiments thereby favoring a party that entered the case in 1989 I would have considered that logic for a brief moment. But rejecting all the claims made by the winning party while putting a greater proof of burden on the loosing party was a cold blooded planned murder of justice.
Fred Matthew Well, a British law student speculating about Indian judicial system is a cliche in itself. Does British court of law run civil proceedings based on distinct legal framework outlined on the basis of religions, such as Muslim laws for one community and Hindu laws for other. Apparently, listening to these schmucks on the video with a fancy title is nothing more then attending some session discussing hidden message of science of reproduction behind Shakespeare’s literature. Didn’t i sound absurd ? Likewise, these guys did to me.
Really, you must be from Pakistan!
M 20 what about the ASI report??
The clinching evidence is the archeology report which conclusively proved the masjid built over pre existing mandir. Watch K K Muhammads videos on youtube.
Possesion is thus excluded based on forceful uptake of land by the other side.
Brilliant interview. I particularly liked the quoting of justice ganguly n how prof mustafa clarified what he felt in this case. Absolute must watch for those who take false pride n have celebrated such verdicts.
अदालत को मालूम है, मुल्क़ में है कितनी, ज़मीन की क़िल्लत
सो वहीँ इन्साफ को भी दफ़न किया, जहाँ मंदिर बनवाना था |
A great interview by two eloquent people.
Karan Thapar is the best among the lot
Oh what a gem of an interview! I watch Faizaan bhai's channel so I know how knowledgeable he is, but had not realised how deep he had gone into this case. And Karan ... what a wonderful journalist. He has made himself so aware of the the entire issue that he can ask the most erudite and pertinent questions of his distinguished guest.
Wah maja aa gaya...and certainly whether they say it or not, I definitely know now this was a poor judgement by a compromised court
I see job loss is also affecting BJP IT Cell. Only one paid fellow working overtime... Does per day payments of Cell-workers hiked?
In recent times only BJP IT cell is the only blooming retarded group
Karan you have become dog. You are blatantly lying. Why?
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There are enough evidence to prove how much nonsense you both are talking. Splitting hair and avoiding the crucial facts.
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@@balbhattfromthirdofsevenof7496 or the other party directs our courts of law .... & the other 'party' have become the said 'dog', your terminology
Anti Hindu frauds, it's not about BJP. This prof is lying through his teeth, on the case, on the historicity of the temple, on the evidences available and judgement itself. sick Fraud!!!
@@dtab281 Only if you care to know the facts and not live in denial. I have posted to links here is the third and simpler version esp for you. ua-cam.com/video/GXewqwiq-Hw/v-deo.html
Loved this interview. Great analysis.
The unfamouse judgement of CJI gogoi favouring his own without evidence which is totally against justics for which he work for.
Why wasn’t a Hindu lawyer included in this discussion, to put an opposing point of view ????
because that would have differentiated it from discussion to argument. The point is arguments have been made, what is under discussion is the objective dissection of the courts judgement.
what a crystal clear conversation b/w two intellectuals.
@Apurav Kumar babu sari. English Urdu ek hi comment me dal diye ho😂😂😂😂
crystal clear, or pure lie. Do these guys no know That Ramaya is 3000 BC scripture mentioning Ayodhya and Lord Ram. Seconldy it has been proven in court Scanda Purana describes the exact place where Lord Ram born. Scanda purana is also proven to be written in 7th-9th century.
these two guys are telling pure lies.
Apurav Kumar Ji
Mugambo khush hua
@Mohammad Naseem Khan Balmimiki ka naam suna hai tumane, bhutani ke? pahale tum pata karo is dunia ke hee ho ya aaj hee mars se aaye ho. ki tumhen ramayan ka naam nahi pata aur aa jate ho bahas karane
@Mohammad Naseem Khan tum do kaudi ke insan, jindagi me kuch padha ya suna bhee hai. tum andhon ke liye yah thoda sa sample hai balkimik ramayan ka:
तस्यां पुर्यामयोध्यायां वेदवित्सर्वसंग्रहः |
दीर्घदर्शी महातेजाः पौरजानपदप्रियः || १-६-१
इक्ष्वाकूणामतिरथो यज्वा धर्मपरो वशी |
महर्षिकल्पो राजर्षिः त्रिषु लोकेषु विश्रुतः || १-६-२
बलवान्निहतामित्रो मित्रवान्विजितेन्द्रियः |
धनैश्च संचयैश्चान्यैः शक्रवैश्रवणोपमः || १-६-३
यथा मनुर्महातेजा लोकस्य परिरक्षिता |
तथा दशरथो राजा लोकस्य परिरक्षिता || १-६-४
He who is well-versed in Veda-s, who is a gatherer of all scholars, riches and forces as well, a foreseer and a great resplendent one, also one who is esteemed by urbanites and countrymen alike, one who is a top-speeded chariot-warrior among the emperors of Ikshwaku kings, one who has performed many Vedic rituals, a virtuous one, a great controller, a saint-like kingly sage, one who he is renowned in all the three worlds, a mighty one with all his enemies eradicated, nevertheless who has friends, one who conquered all his senses, one who is similar to Indra, or Kubera on earth with his wealth, accumulations and other possessions, he that king Dasharatha while dwelling in the city of Ayodhya protected the world, like Manu, the foremost protector of mankind. [1-6-3,4,5]
तेन सत्याभिसंधेन त्रिवर्गमनुतिष्ठता |
पालिता सा पुरी श्रेष्ठा इन्द्रेणेवामरावती || १-६-५
He that truth-abiding king, who adheres to the three-fold virtues rules the vast of that kingdom from that best city Ayodhya, as Indra rules heaven from his capital Amaravati. [1-6-5]
तस्मिन्पुरवरे हृष्टा धर्मात्मानो बहुश्रुताः |
नरास्तुष्टा धनैः स्वैः स्वैरलुब्धाः सत्यवादिनः ||१-६-६
In that best city Ayodhya all are exuberant yet virtuous ones, and scholars are variously learned ones, people are satisfied with their own riches, they have no greed, and they advocate truthfulness alone. [1-6-6]
नाल्पसंनिचयः कश्चिदासीत्तस्मिन्पुरोत्तमे |
कुटुंबी यो ह्यसिद्धार्थोऽगवाश्वधनधान्यवान् || १-६-७
None with meagre accumulations is there in that great city and no householder is there without unearned means, and without cows, horses, monies or cereals and who could not sustain his family. [1-6-7]
कामी वा न कदर्यो वा नृशंसः पुरुषः क्वचित् |
द्रष्टुं शक्यमयोध्यायां नाविद्वान्न च नास्तिकः || १-६-८
None can see a lustful person, or a miser or a cruel one anywhere in that Ayodhya, along with nondescripts or non-believers, for there are no such persons. [1-6-8]
Lots of respects and regards for Faizan Mustafa Sir and congratulations to Mr. Karan Thapar for conducting this precious Interview cum discussion.
A very encouraging point was made by Prof. Mustafa that many secular, progressive and liberal Hindus are dissatisfied with the verdict than Muslims, who were in some sense,the direct parties to the case. Perhaps, the central reason for this is that each of those secular and progressive persons reading the judgment feel that each and every principal of law which has been invoked has been back-stabbed with faith.
Faizan Mustafa has given most fitting & logical answer to all questions raised by Karan Thapar.
Thank you Mr.Thappar for such a transparent analysis of the judgement by an expert Faizan Mustafa on the constitutional law.
Very well essayed .
Taiyab Ali Faizan spinning n deceiving is Faiza’s talent.its obvious he’s a lawyer..seen his many videos full lies on many issues
All Muslims will support and praise Karan because he is talking against the Judgement of the court. But what amazes me is they never uttered a word during the case procedure. Looks very Biased and motivated.
We salute Prof Faizan's candid,diligence and maturity in the discussion.
India will thrive still you know why because like karan thapar being here still talk of justice even though he is hindu!Our nation will rise again and thrive!this bjp filth will go eventually
I hope so.... soon.
What a intelligent interview
I personally opine Faizan Mustafa is a diplomatic speaker.
@@sairanikhatimam absolutely and very well versed with the law of the land
Well, it do concern me ..his diplomacy is high. Doesnt suffice to a country like ours.
An honestly academic and elevated interview and dialogue that deems to be very inconvenient for the powers that be.
Judge Mustafa is exact and precise on his views. One group was asked to establish hard and solid proof and on the other hand other group is entertained by their beliefs. That's quite unfair. This shouldn't have been the way our Supreme Court dispensed justice. That's why we call this judgement as a prejudiciously cooked up and discriminating one to please the ruling party. Now I believe that the reward was Rajya Sabha Seat to C J. Shame on us and our legal system. That is where people doubt that. Shri Gogoi was chosen by government and collegium to suit their interests. That is why chief Justice of India hurried to close this case. Most important pillar of democracy was crumbled by being partial, which is a criminal activity.
Hey team wire a small suggestion, if you could produce such interviews as podcasts and release it on Spotify. It would be such pleasure.
Thanks
Just the way Karan is in control and knows what he is talking about is just inspiring.
*justice delayed as well as denied*
Justice compromised is justice denied!
@bg s
🔔🔔
@Akshay Rajput
kitna predictable baat hai...
@@Papa-ti2ce yeah
Unfortunately, SC has contradicted its own statements! SC did not find evidence that there was Ram temple before. Yet the verdict was given based on the belief (aastha) of larger section of people!!
Thanks to Mr. Thapar and Mr. Vardharajan for restoring our faith in journalism in the electronic media
Mr. Faizan Mustafa, I salute your for your view over Judgement.
Salute to both of you. You have made it so simple to understand. Thanks
Very enlightened and educative interview
35.10 justice गांगुली should demolish his own house n donate for construction of school or hospital
Thanks Karan. You have given very clear explanation of judgment in your questions itself.
Faizan Mustafa Sir, Salute for keeping it Straight, Simple and Calm, I am honoured.
I like Faizan Mustafa's opinion more than the Supreme Court's decision although both have the same outcome.The fact that the Supreme Court did not want to do even that indicates towards some irregularities.
What about the evidences of writings in the geu Granth Sahib by Guru Nanak ji and by Aurengazeb's Granddaughter !
Why didn't they Give all these Evidences to the SC while the case was going on ?
@@krishnanb.s.5581 All evidences were there. ASI was not able to conclude there was a temple or any religious structure there. SCs verdict is based on the fact that there was no namaz in that masjid for some time period and that means it's not an active mosque. If the mosque was not demolished,there would have been no temple today. But demolition was illegal and case is still pending.
Being a hindu
Proud indian
Happy to see this content and become informed citizen
Waiting for the day when such a debate can happen on Qur'an!
There is no debate on Geeta either.
Why only Quaran & why not other sacred text??
Then let's have a discussion on the Holy Gita, Vedas, Purans then on Bible and Guru Granth Sahib as well.
Why so Selective??
It happens all over the world, the Quran itself promotes critical arguments, just search on you tube, you will find many debates of Ahmed deedat, Yasir Nadeem, Daniel Haquiqatju, Zakir Naik and many more,
It's Tanatanies who runs away from the arguments over their scriptures 😂😂 where are the Baba on world religion debates 😂😂
Excellent thought provoking both are eminent and frank in their expressions we enjoyed listening to them
They both have great IQ and have great level of understanding. See the respect for each other..this what our present media has lost..
Excellent discussion on the verdict of SC in the matter of Babri mosque. First the statues put in the mosque is called as illegal and than the demolition of mosque is also called as illegal by SC. There were no evidences found to prove that mosque was built by demolition of temple. However the mosque was demolished and after that the disputed land was given to build Ram temple. For the mosque , the land was allotted in Ayodhya itself. Ram temple is now already build and completed in January, 2024. However there was not put even a foundation stone for the mosque. Is the verdict of SC proper ? Is the verdict of SC seems legal ? What were the solid ground for SC to give verdict in favor of Ram temple ? Was Ram took birth on that particular place ? Mosque was built there in fact and it was standing there before it demolished and it was not temple that all know it including people of India, world, Govt, and judiciary also. These questions have no answers. However Muslims of India declared that they will accept the verdict of SC and they accepted it because they have trust on Indian judiciary and SC.
Now it is for the citizens of our country who are believing in democracy and secular concept of nation. If majority citizens wishing to make India a Hindu Rastra , they can make it certainly.
Respect for Prof. Mustafa.
How can it be unfair? Barber occupied it. Occupation does not give any right.
this would have been best judgement if SC had not given the land to any community.
Faizan Mustafa, you are a person of logic and your voice is one of reason and not of blind faith. People like you make me proud of having educated Muslims around me, you are much much better and above than those uneducated Muslims and Hindus who want to see just blood. May our country have more people like you, and may God give you more strength. To all my Indian folks - let's debate why we are being called India and not Bharat. Let's debate why our steets have potholes and trains have more people than we have seats. Let's debate poverty and illeteracy and garbage lying all around. Let's put a stop to this temple and mosque nonsense.
Mr. Karan the whole world knows, the judgement was one sided and saying its a judgement that is shameful on our judiciary system
Karan Thapar and Doctor Saab ripped apart Supreme Court and it's verdict. Brilliant !!
Assalamualaikum sir Faizan Mustafa finest quality of speech. Best explanation .. knowledge is vast. Good job sir..we Muslims appreciate you. Your hard work on it. May Allah bless you.
Faizan Mustafa is a walking knowledge…always intrigued to listen him. Surprised that he didn’t participate in the hearings
Excellent interview 👌
There is no evidence of a temple under Babri Masjid. It was a Buddhist site between 4th to 9th century which was later abandoned. A Muslim settlement came up in around 11th-12th century and built a small mosque on that abandoned site, and a bigger mosque was built by Babur in 1528. Talking about evidence, no Sanskrit text composed before the 16th century “lauded Ayodhya explicitly as the birthplace of Lord Rama, not even Valmiki’s Ramayana attributed its sanctity as a pilgrimage centre”.a Even Tulsidas' Ramcharitmanas, completed during Akbar’s reign in 1570, does not mention anything about a “Ram Janmasthan”. Tulsidas also never wrote about any desecration of a temple at Ayodhya. Neither Hiuen Tsang, the Chinese traveller who visited Ayodhya in the earlier half of the 7th century, nor Alberuni’s Kitab-e-Hind, compiled in the 11th century, make any reference to the town being celebrated as the birthplace of Lord Ram. Mir Baqi also didn't write anything about destroying a temple before building the mosque. Historians independently reported to the govt in 1991 that their study showed neither the existence of a temple on the site of the Babri Masjid nor of the destruction of any other structure there prior to the construction of the mosque. In 1993, archaeologist D. Mandal rubbished the claims of a section of archaeologists of the discovery of pillar bases which they said were the support of the stone pillars of a temple destroyed earlier. The ASI in 2003 report suppressed the findings of animal bones, glazed ware and glazed tiles, which were associated with Muslim settlement.
Sources:
1. ASI's archaeological findings in Ayodhya: Short shrift to facts. Why historical and archaeological findings negate the presence of a temple.
frontline.thehindu.com/cover-story/article30024814.ece
2. Understanding the archaeological aspects of the temple, mosque conundrum.
www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/11/06/understanding-the-archaeological-aspects-of-the-temple-mosque-conundrum.html
3. There Is No Evidence Of A Temple Under The Babri Masjid, Just Older Mosques, Says Archeologist. Supriya Varma, one of the archaeologists who has challenged the ASI's 2003 findings, explains why the ASI is wrong.
www.huffingtonpost.in/2018/12/04/there-is-no-evidence-of-a-temple-under-the-babri-masjid-asi-lied-to-the-country-say-archeologists_a_23604990/
4. KK Muhammad was a student when he participated in the 1976-77 excavation. Here's why he might be wrong.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/kk-muhammad-was-never-part-of-bb-lals-ayodhya-excavation-team-amu-prof/articleshow/71548782.cms
5. ASI Suppressed Animal Bone Findings At Mosque Site. Some experts say the cooked bone fragments prove a temple never existed at the site.
www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/babri-asi-suppressed-animal-bone-findings-at-mosque-site_in_5c42c412e4b0a8dbe1718924
6. The Allahabad High Court had asked the ASI to report whether there had been a temple below the Babri Masjid. B R Mani was replaced as a team leader in two months. He was accused of compromising the procedures of the excavation.
scroll.in/article/812543/why-a-court-ordered-the-new-national-museum-head-to-be-replaced-on-a-2003-ayodhya-excavation
7. Independent archaeologists dispute the ASI's report.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/ayodhya-india-babri-masjid-ram-temple-supreme-court-hearing-archaeology-a9153771.html
8. 103 independent experts say no evidence of a temple.
www.telegraphindia.com/india/academics-call-for-ayodhya-verdict-review/cid/1719792
9. Evidence From Excavation Does Not Support ASI’s Conclusion About Temple.
science.thewire.in/politics/ayodhya-dispute-excavation-evidence-temple-asi/
10. Ayodhya Dispute Is a Battle Between Faith and Rationality, Says Historian D.N. Jha. In conversation with the noted historian on the history of the land dispute, how the issue was communalised, why he thinks it cannot be said that there was a temple under the Babri Masjid, and more.
thewire.in/communalism/ayodhya-verdict-babri-masjid-ram-temple-dn-jha
11. Secret, Hurried and Anonymous When Convenient: Revisiting ASI’s Ayodhya Dig Report.
science.thewire.in/the-sciences/secret-hurried-and-anonymous-when-convenient-revisiting-asis-ayodhya-dig-report/
12. Ram is not a historical figure -
www.timesofindia.com/india/For-historians-Ram-remains-a-myth/articleshow/2367074.cms
13. Ram is not a historical figure -
www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/was-rama-based-real-historical-figure-007456
In a simple word "it's just a trap to divide and rule in India" by britishers.
You mean that all 5 judges are still on the pay roll of Queen Elizabeth? India was already divided before the invasion of foreign ruler & British ruled on same division, the same is in place.
All your facts I totally agree. But why we as a Indian always fights on religion? Can we not move on and just concentrate on development. Modi was the one who bring hope but he is also playing the same cards like Nehru Britishers and every f****ng politician.
brahmin mafia ruining india , brahmin reservation in judiciary nees to be removed
@waqas ahmed That was the most illiterate comment of the century. Firstly Gujarat riots were started by RADICALIZED MUSLIMS who burnt 59 Hindu pilgrims ALIVE at Godhara junction. I have seen the railway boggy. Secondly, SC has given a great decision ,solving over a century old problem, with proper evidence. Thirdly ,if Hindus start raising questions on belief of Muslims on existence of Prophet with 8 years old wife Aeysha , Mecca , Medina then Muslims will not like it. Fourthly, SC must get FOUNDATIONS of all Mosques dug out to confirm that they have not been built on old structures. If they are, then these Mosques should be designated as" HARAM" and demolished. This was done to break the moral of the locals to convert them to Islam which has to be rectified as Islam came from beyond the Hindukush. Finally, Hindus are the most tolerant people who have accepted Muslims to make a nation on the LAND OF HINDUSTAN, namely Pakistan plus Bangladesh, else it would have been an Israel-Palestine problem. So dear do try and read/analyse reality before giving any comments.
@waqas ahmed Allah is a maadarchod
Excellent discussions held. Faizan Mustafa sir is an authority on Indian laws and judiciary matters hence his observations must be given top priorities
I pray for the thousands of lives that lost in this meaningless political debacle where no side has got anything and we are still poor
Thanks!
Great faizan sir. Simple and implicit view.
@Apurav Kumar hehe
More laughable because the author of judgment is a doctorate degree holder from a reputed university of America.
Under Modi all institutions of state have collapsed. SC is now the last nail in the coffin of this dying republic.
Your English makes me wanna puke. Like seriously.
@ Tarun Kumar
You are most probably correct. Even I am of the opinion of a similar lines . I am considering whether to go to Pakistan 🇵🇰 ? What about you ? What do you have in your mind ?
Please let me know
@@srk7479 Stay back and change the state of our Nation. The opposition to the current ruling party should be the educated and logical youth of today and not yet any other corrupt political party.
@@reshmamalik9521 you seem to be joking about the political situation. There are already enuf number of political parties. We have to somehow elect them and see the capacity of those smaller parties.
There is no need of a person who has everything but no intrest to stay in this place to be stopped from leaving. One person can do nothing here except than casting vote.
@@srk7479 really ? N who in their right mind feels one should leave India for Pakistan ? Anyone who questions the system need not go to Pakistan. Its ridiculous! Never before have we faced such reactions in solidarity to the govt.
I wish they could have done this interview in hindi or urdu...majority of indians are not english speaking people.
anyway it is an excellent interview.
One of the best interview I have seen
After a long time
Last time it was mr.modi and Karan thappar
Awesome! Simply awesome, Prof. Mustafa!
Now every worshipper needs to keep proof that he worships ..... otherwise he will be labled ..... as per the will of Supreme Clownery of Hindustan
Chalo ab koi ye nahi kahenga ke mandir todkar masjid banayi gayi thi kyuke ye sabit nahi hua court mein isliye aasta ka sahara lekar mandir ke paksh mein faisla diya gaya, lekin ab puri duniya ye zaroor kahengi ke ek Masjid todkar Ram ka mandir banaya gaya aur isse koi jhutla nahi sakega. Toh mere hindu bhaiyo khush hojao Aapne apni Aatma aur bhagwan dono ko dhoka dediya hai .
Karan is a really good journalist. Pushing people to give clear answers.
Ronit Banerjee nonsense, his technique is all about leading questions.
atleast someone has the courage to report the truth. this will remain a black episode in indian democratic history.
Indian judicial system is losing it's credibility day by day.
R S Jha Faiza’s is good at spinning,so obvious he z a sophistic lawyer
Dr. Mustafa's answers and explanation are crystal clear and heavily logical .
Bhai judges have family too ...
Dar sabko lagta hey
Remember justice loya
BHAI DAR LAGTA H TO ITNA TIME LGTA DECISION AANE ME
No it is not like that.The muslim attack under leadership of local promimnant person and bairagis defended Hanuman Gadhi and Ram JanmBhumi results in fierce fight.
Second wifes property to first wifes children gogoi rule
Bad analogy .... but then again, only a certain community are blatently 'legally' permitted more than one wife .... a threat held over their womenfolk!
Chairman national Human Right commission
@@dtab281
I see if you don't know tribal people are exempted from hindu marriage act
Maybe your talking about that community
I can't agree more.
Why would Hindus go out of way and pray in a mosque? This is not a debate, its a monologue from one side. It would have been better discussion if we had a representative from other side as well.
Last 5 minutes will tell you that what whould have been a best judgment.
In 1528 what was demolished?
Was there a temple? Or a Bodh Matth?
A Hindu temple
Please karan let the interviewee speak.
U raise the question,u urself answer the question and then ask him whether it is true or not.
Shubham Trivedi right, his speciality is the leading question!
the interviewer spoke more than the interviewee. (70-30)
You have pointed out exactly what I have sensed even in first ten minutes of this interview. When Karan is interviewing few political leaders and celebrities , he used to ask questions where they start to struggle and struck for answers, but rather, here he is asking only yes or no questions. And he may call himself as interviewer or moderated journalist. Pseudo moderators. It is also the strategy of N.Ram of Hindu daily.
May be karan is being careful as this is a very sensitive issue
Greatest blunders of Supreme Court of India
1:- Babri Judgement
2:- Article 370 judgement
3:- Afzal Guru Judgement
shame on us!
Thank god...you didn't say anything about sc. I got booked by lot of bhakts lately..
@@NavinKumarIndia true Hindu...
@bg s All those i year i thought being a rational citizen is enough. Thanks now i know what crusade means for you.
PUZZLE FOR A PUZZLE.
Every Indian should watch this .