This is the best debate video I've seen so far (because of the categories you used). Even if I think that some of these points should go to L and some of them to Akiyama , I still absolutely agree with the outcome. Great work!
Linguistic intelligence to akiyama? L is fluent in many languages like 5 or 6 and in the test for toho University he passed with 100 percent with light. But he gave test in Japanese while he is not Japanese.
Imo VCI: L he can speak 8 or more languages and his fluid VCI is good too PSI: L takes this too. We can see Near view dozens of monitors at the same time and even play them at high speeds and still be able to observe things any normal person could not. The databook says that L has this ability too. L is also said to be working on multiple nigh unsolvable cases at the SAME time. He also outplayed watari by 20,000 times after observing statistics for a while. WMI: B.B in the novels was said to have implied photographic memory and was able to read many times faster than realistic human ability with full comprehension. He read 376 pages worth of manga pages in under 5 minutes and memorized the content from each page as well. This is also an insane PSI feat. B.B was still considered inferior to L by the narrative. FRI: I agree that Akiyama takes this. PRI: Close but i like to give Akiyama a slight edge VSI: this is also a weird one i will leave this up to your own interpretation GAI: Akiyama because better FRI and fluid VCI CPI: L Because of the WMI + PSI feats I stated above. FSIQ: L But this is just FSIQ, not me saying who is smarter.
@@DetabeEditz Maybe, But the narrative explicitly stated he has implied photographic memory, and this feat was not debunked by narration unlike other stuff when B.B was captured. Which means that the chances of it being fake is slim to none.
Baku with original heart and soichi kiruma perfect mode be like 😲: you really though opponents in outsmarting but sorry you lose. (if you don't know who both read usogui manga 500+ chapter, usogui is better written than liar games tho, but liar games more take realism, usogui take better mind game)
@@helloguys6366 I didn't read usogui, yet. I saw everyone instead with best opinions as "Akyiama vs Baku". It can go either way. But if in usogui, stuff happen in any kind of supernatural way, I m not even complicate myself. I'm only compare mere humans. What's supernatural in any way, can go against Aizen.
In My Opinion Overall It Goes To Akiyama Mid Diff and real life situation goes to l extreme diff just because of akiyama's feats also akiyama has better intelligence and manipulation giving him an upper hand although in real life situation it would depend on the situation but could for sure go either way. But I respect your opinion no hate.
W edit I was thinking that L will take it +I don't think the concept of justice exists in Death Note 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ L and Light. They were ready to do anything to win over each other.
I think that Akiyama mid - high diffs Canon L, high diff novel L, mid diffs Light, extreme diffs Light and L together. Idk why novel L is scaled so much higher than canon L.
Against Light intelligence: low diff (better at everything) FS: no diff (Light is probably Fukanaga level, but probably dumber in FS) NFS: very low diff IRL from scratch: Akiyama low diff
@@hexa-o5v If they were to be in our world (so no mind games like in liar game) and tried to beat the other one (for example by gaining full control of the city and thus gaining control of the other person). From scratch means that they dont have any prior resources so they start from scratch
I think it will be like this: L (manga)>=Akiyama (outsmarting) (very high-extreme diff) L (novel)>Akiyama (outsmarting) (mid diff) Why he is so underrated? :\
@Useless I know, but the same thing happens with many characters: Takuya Yagami Akiyama Baku Friend I rather suppose that it does not have much relevance within its saga, however they are almost as potential as the protagonists.
Goat = Both Peak = Both Slams Koji + Cote verse = Both Slams Yuuichi + tomodachi game verse = both Slams Johan + verse = Akiyama W character = Both Fav: Akiyama >= Slams Light = Both Baku victim = Both
yeah like analytic definitely goes to L. He is better than a guy who can memorize 376 pages of a book in 5 minutes so WMI and memory to him. And he used to solve multiple 'impossible' cases at the same time so this should earn him a category or two. His multi-tasking is better since he can keep track of multiple cameras while thinking and doing other tasks.
If Cote being 7 then Liar only 4.5 - 5. Imo Cote LN rated slightly 8-8.5. Sadly that Liar game beside the outsmarting scene and Meaningful quote, lessons. Nothing in Liar game consider above average or advanced level. The plot is normal but the strategy behind thay plot is good. Creativity is surely 10/10 nothing to say. Art suck af, not gonna lie Liar game art even worse than Hunter x Hunter manga. Everyone (expect Akiyama and Kanzaki Nao) Emotional express kinda exagerate. Main character annoying af (if you first read liar game), Kanzaki Nao too kindness to be considered Stupid lol. Ending kinda mysterious and Boring, but what come behind that ending is insane. Imo Liar game rate is 4.5-5 maybe 5.5
thanks to both bros, will add that to my to be read list after few enjoyable anime and mangas(considering the average rating) and imo Cote is 7.5-8 I just wrote 7 for finding how big the difference can be, I knew strategies is gonna insane considering Yokoya and Akiyama in comparison videos, if creativity is that high it will help me enhance my creativity.
@bakü madarame Not really, it got better over time plus both mangas were unknown and during the 2000s so the art can be pretty mid compared to today's standards
@@youszz6606 where do you disagree? I'm just telling the truth, people with high IQ usually fight not too hard and lose to Ayanokoji in fighting (except Siesta, Rimuru, Izuru...)
He will never be Kira, Akiyama will never do something childish as Light to pretend himself as a god. If he got a deathnote he would probably just burn it
@@yukivick7726 Also what do you say when Light has police and detectives from ALL over the world on HIS side 😂 Cause they’re afraid of him. What makes you think he won’t USE them to find out about Lelouch and kill him off?
Manga L > light novel L. In IQ debate we need to have methods,onscreen knowledge, results and if It only has results and not have methods or onscreen feats, It will be illegal to debate
I may have some issue with the beat and some categories didnt mentioned. Sorry about that
If you ask why i didnt use the shakes at first cuz im lazy 🗿
Just here to ask for explanations of all these new categories that you don’t explain me, please 🙏
Hello?
@@GOATEditz204 wait, im just woke up
@@DetabeEditz It’s funny, because I’m about to go to sleep. Seems like we live very far from each other 🌎
@@DetabeEditz Hello?
This is the best debate video I've seen so far (because of the categories you used). Even if I think that some of these points should go to L and some of them to Akiyama , I still absolutely agree with the outcome. Great work!
Linguistic intelligence to akiyama? L is fluent in many languages like 5 or 6 and in the test for toho University he passed with 100 percent with light. But he gave test in Japanese while he is not Japanese.
Imo
VCI: L he can speak 8 or more languages and his fluid VCI is good too
PSI: L takes this too. We can see Near view dozens of monitors at the same time and even play them at high speeds and still be able to observe things any normal person could not. The databook says that L has this ability too. L is also said to be working on multiple nigh unsolvable cases at the SAME time. He also outplayed watari by 20,000 times after observing statistics for a while.
WMI: B.B in the novels was said to have implied photographic memory and was able to read many times faster than realistic human ability with full comprehension. He read 376 pages worth of manga pages in under 5 minutes and memorized the content from each page as well. This is also an insane PSI feat. B.B was still considered inferior to L by the narrative.
FRI: I agree that Akiyama takes this.
PRI: Close but i like to give Akiyama a slight edge
VSI: this is also a weird one i will leave this up to your own interpretation
GAI: Akiyama because better FRI and fluid VCI
CPI: L Because of the WMI + PSI feats I stated above.
FSIQ: L
But this is just FSIQ, not me saying who is smarter.
@@Lloyaro W takes, but WMI is kinda vague due to L being suspect.
Also Akiyama working on the biggest MLM so he should be learning at least 4 languages.
@@DetabeEditz Maybe, But the narrative explicitly stated he has implied photographic memory, and this feat was not debunked by narration unlike other stuff when B.B was captured. Which means that the chances of it being fake is slim to none.
@@DetabeEditz Idk about that lol.
Best full scale comparison ever
As I said, Akyiama kinda dogwalk every mere human in outsmarting.
Baku with original heart and soichi kiruma perfect mode be like 😲: you really though opponents in outsmarting but sorry you lose. (if you don't know who both read usogui manga 500+ chapter, usogui is better written than liar games tho, but liar games more take realism, usogui take better mind game)
@@helloguys6366 I didn't read usogui, yet.
I saw everyone instead with best opinions as "Akyiama vs Baku". It can go either way.
But if in usogui, stuff happen in any kind of supernatural way, I m not even complicate myself.
I'm only compare mere humans.
What's supernatural in any way, can go against Aizen.
@@Bandit.Chrollo you should read that no spiritual power in usogui, the gambling and mind games is insane tho
@@helloguys6366 congrats u spoiling usogui manga
In My Opinion Overall It Goes To Akiyama Mid Diff and real life situation goes to l extreme diff just because of akiyama's feats also akiyama has better intelligence and manipulation giving him an upper hand although in real life situation it would depend on the situation but could for sure go either way.
But I respect your opinion no hate.
By feats and FRI then Akiyama really is Mid diff L.
what? He negs manga L. mid diffs novels L
It really helped me in my upcoming video.
L is getting underrated in debate community is pure fax but this says nthing in this video cause Akiyama slams high-extreme diff is also pure fax imo
bro wasn't lying when he said full scale 💀
W edit
I was thinking that L will take it
+I don't think the concept of justice exists in Death Note 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
L and Light. They were ready to do anything to win over each other.
Actually Justice in death note kinda abstract, even L or Light has their own wrong meaning about justice.
@@DetabeEditz yeah that's right
Btw What did you mean by lolouch vs light true outcome 😱
@@FreePalestine7thoct i dunno 💀💀
@@DetabeEditz hahaha🗿
666 like bro 🌚👍
Goat edit + fax
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I think that Akiyama mid - high diffs Canon L, high diff novel L, mid diffs Light, extreme diffs Light and L together. Idk why novel L is scaled so much higher than canon L.
Against Light
intelligence: low diff (better at everything)
FS: no diff (Light is probably Fukanaga level, but probably dumber in FS)
NFS: very low diff
IRL from scratch: Akiyama low diff
@@mynameisntjoe3024 valid take
@@mynameisntjoe3024 What is IRL from scartch?
@@hexa-o5v If they were to be in our world (so no mind games like in liar game) and tried to beat the other one (for example by gaining full control of the city and thus gaining control of the other person). From scratch means that they dont have any prior resources so they start from scratch
What if we take L from LN who will win
I think it will be like this:
L (manga)>=Akiyama (outsmarting) (very high-extreme diff)
L (novel)>Akiyama (outsmarting) (mid diff)
Why he is so underrated? :\
Im based on feats, but yeah Manga L kinda underrated.
@Useless 🤝🏻
Akiyama>>>>>Manga L
Novel L>>>>>Akiyama extreme difficulty
@NXP38 overrated? Some people think that Ayano can beat him at outsmarting with a low-mid diff💀
@NXP38 ...
L is most undertted character i ever seen
Many of death note are:
L and Mello (underrated)
Minoru and Beyond (forgotten)
@Useless I know, but the same thing happens with many characters:
Takuya Yagami
Akiyama
Baku
Friend
I rather suppose that it does not have much relevance within its saga, however they are almost as potential as the protagonists.
@useless2896 Baku isnt even underrated anymore
0:43 straight?
i mean yeah L washing lights feet was pretty gay so fair enough.
Straight thinking is ability to think straight and calmly not that type of think 😳
@@DetabeEditz Thinking straight? well its hard to think straight with gay thoughts 😉
Does anyone know where to get the Liar Game manga in english?
Song name?
W take, Akiyama is goated
What's the difference of L manga and anime?
Manga L shows more thinking processes and onscreen feats which makes him more realistic and logical
Who all thinks that akiyama looks similar to light yagami (slightly)
Me to lol
Goat = Both
Peak = Both
Slams Koji + Cote verse = Both
Slams Yuuichi + tomodachi game verse = both
Slams Johan + verse = Akiyama
W character = Both
Fav: Akiyama >=
Slams Light = Both
Baku victim = Both
Koji > L
What version of L is this?
I love L but yeah akiyama would outsmart him
I think a lot of these points should go to L but overall i agree akiyama wins.
I agree some of these point im not actually sure. But overall Akiyama goat 🔥🔥
yeah like analytic definitely goes to L. He is better than a guy who can memorize 376 pages of a book in 5 minutes so WMI and memory to him. And he used to solve multiple 'impossible' cases at the same time so this should earn him a category or two. His multi-tasking is better since he can keep track of multiple cameras while thinking and doing other tasks.
@@ZqTi0thats mainly PSI, WMI akiyama
Ap is not durability how did u always make this mistake
Peak vs Peak 😳😳😳
Is Liar Game good?haven't read yet, can you rate it on scale from 1-10 assuming Cote Ln being 7 ?!
If Cote being 7 then Liar only 4.5 - 5.
Imo Cote LN rated slightly 8-8.5.
Sadly that Liar game beside the outsmarting scene and Meaningful quote, lessons. Nothing in Liar game consider above average or advanced level.
The plot is normal but the strategy behind thay plot is good.
Creativity is surely 10/10 nothing to say.
Art suck af, not gonna lie Liar game art even worse than Hunter x Hunter manga. Everyone (expect Akiyama and Kanzaki Nao) Emotional express kinda exagerate.
Main character annoying af (if you first read liar game), Kanzaki Nao too kindness to be considered Stupid lol.
Ending kinda mysterious and Boring, but what come behind that ending is insane.
Imo Liar game rate is 4.5-5 maybe 5.5
7.5 for me
But for smart moments and character's intelligence and startegies in it is 10/10
thanks to both bros, will add that to my to be read list after few enjoyable anime and mangas(considering the average rating) and imo Cote is 7.5-8 I just wrote 7 for finding how big the difference can be, I knew strategies is gonna insane considering Yokoya and Akiyama in comparison videos, if creativity is that high it will help me enhance my creativity.
@bakü madarame Not really, it got better over time plus both mangas were unknown and during the 2000s so the art can be pretty mid compared to today's standards
@@DetabeEditz what rating you will give to Usogui then ?
W.🗿☕
Ayanokoji vs Light yagami
Yuuichi vs Takuya
L vs Johan
Lelouch vs Ayanokoji
Morairty vs Akiyama
@Useless i will post this on death battle group
In battle/fighting + combat, Ayanokoji >>> all geniuses IQ/wits (except Rimuru, Izuru, Siesta...) this is facts :)
No
@@youszz6606 where do you disagree? I'm just telling the truth, people with high IQ usually fight not too hard and lose to Ayanokoji in fighting (except Siesta, Rimuru, Izuru...)
@@ptp2k5 expect those unrealistic smart, yeah those realistic smart didnt fight that hard and your telling the truth.
One word: Batman
@@ptp2k5 There are lot more imo like Batman,Dazai,Fyodor,Willam James Moriarty
What do you think that how many mellos are required to outsmart 1 akiyama?
3 at least
L going to "work" to make 3 mellos
A lot of Mellos
@@lelouch5562 Also lots of chocolates
4
L destroys no-low diff in combat and gets every point in a fight
Imo Cannon L>Akiyama>Manga L
Yokoya can win L high extremely diff in my opinion
Nah yokoya lose Akiyama>yokoya
LN L vs akiyama
Akiyama made up of light 50%+L 50%
I wanted this guy to be kira in death note s2
He will never be Kira, Akiyama will never do something childish as Light to pretend himself as a god. If he got a deathnote he would probably just burn it
@@yeeeye3605😂😂😂 you know what are you saying
L>akiyama (high difference) btw the edit is fire
Shakes left the chat
Fastest heart yet
Fair I guess. Some points should’ve gone to L but novel L wins anyway. Light v Lelouch when?
The next video. But i think i will make between Lelouch (with geass) vs Light (with death note)
@@DetabeEditz Light EXTREME-INSANE diffs. I think he can kill Lelouch before he kills him as he’s has the upper hand from RANGE but who knows. W vids.
@@muhammadeyssa23648 Lelouch with influence >>>>>>>>>>>>>
@@yukivick7726 Doesn’t matter if Light finds out about him first kid. The Geass goes away when it’s owner dies.
@@yukivick7726 Also what do you say when Light has police and detectives from ALL over the world on HIS side 😂 Cause they’re afraid of him. What makes you think he won’t USE them to find out about Lelouch and kill him off?
bros underestimating L too much
Based on feats. But yeah it should be high-extreme diff to Akiyama overall.
Nah he doesn't. It's just Akyiama against.
Fax + I am late
Manga L > light novel L. In IQ debate we need to have methods,onscreen knowledge, results and if It only has results and not have methods or onscreen feats, It will be illegal to debate
W Edit + W Song, my opinion :
Manga L > Akiyama (extreme diff)
Novel L > Akiyama (very high diff)
W opinion
I would say very extreme diff with manga L and only high diff with novel L
But w
@@somerandomguy4216 W opinion.
@@DetabeEditz 🗿🍫
or Novel L > Akiyama (High Diff)
Novel L will outsmart akiyama