Roger Deakins and Matthew Heineman On Depicting the Drug War in Film

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 18 лют 2016
  • Roger Deakins is the legendary cinematographer behind such films as No Country For Old Men, Fargo and Shawshank Redemption. This year, he received his 13th Oscar nomination for Sicario, a dark thriller set in the world of Mexican drug cartels.
    Fellow 2016 Oscar nominee Matthew Heineman, director of the acclaimed documentary Cartel Land, which chronicles the complexity of the ongoing drug war in Mexico, meets Deakins to discuss the overlapping themes of their respective films.
    Archival footage of Cartel Land and Sicario courtesy of A+E Networks, Lions Gate Films, and The Orchard
    WATCH NEXT:
    VICE Talks 'Sicario' with Benicio Del Toro: bit.ly/1RTntz5
    Click here to subscribe to VICE: bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE
    Check out our full video catalog: bit.ly/VICE-Videos
    Videos, daily editorial and more: vice.com
    More videos from the VICE network: www. vicevideos
    Like VICE on Facebook: vice
    Follow VICE on Twitter: / vice
    Read our Tumblr: / vicemag
    Follow us on Instagram: / vice
    Check out our Pinterest: / vicemag
  • Розваги

КОМЕНТАРІ • 174

  • @h.a.b.arguille1896
    @h.a.b.arguille1896 4 роки тому +150

    Receiving compliments from Roger Deakins on your doco. I think I would explode with pride.

  • @MisterRedBird
    @MisterRedBird 8 років тому +310

    Wow it was nice to see such an intellectual discussion of two people who really know what their talking about

    • @mojtabakarami6078
      @mojtabakarami6078 8 років тому +7

      Yes. It was beautiful!

    • @dictionaryofwords1108
      @dictionaryofwords1108 8 років тому +3

      +Mr. Red Bird *They're

    • @MisterRedBird
      @MisterRedBird 8 років тому +1

      dictionaryofwords You got me

    • @christopherthorkon3997
      @christopherthorkon3997 8 років тому

      +Mr. Red Bird Yes, agreed! Maybe we can convince them to run for President and Vice-President (USA). They seem to offer more intelligent discourse than some of the leading candidates we have now.

  • @zacharyreshovsky8279
    @zacharyreshovsky8279 2 роки тому +12

    My father was a DP in Hollywood. He worked extensively with Roger Deakins' contemporary now-Robert Richardson during Mr. Richardson's early career. One thing my father always struggled with was the politics/inter-personal relationships in film (which can be highly cut throat and competitive), one of which involves managing relationships/directing actors and assistants. Good to see Roger Deakins not acting abusively towards his fellow filmmakers, mentoring and supporting other DPs and ensuring that the future of the film industry fosters an inter-personally supportive professional culture for generations to come rather than an aggressive, winner-take-all culture! I am GRATEFUL for Roger Deakins' example.

    • @bluebellbeatnik4945
      @bluebellbeatnik4945 Рік тому

      Reading between the lines, I take it Robert Richardson is a prick?

  • @PaulRamen
    @PaulRamen 8 років тому +260

    Vice still not keen on grading your Log footage I see ?

    • @edmungbean
      @edmungbean 8 років тому +10

      +Tomy quite possibly edited on premiere on a mac pro and straight to upload, i've not heard of vice hiring online suites or colorists

    • @PaulRamen
      @PaulRamen 8 років тому +8

      +schemedemon with all the money they make by under(not?)paying their writers I think they could afford one

    • @edmungbean
      @edmungbean 8 років тому +3

      +Tomy they cut all kinds of corners, starting with staff. even if they had a davinci suite they'd still need to pay a colorist, or hire someone who knows their way around SpeedGrade, and so not falling into the category of 'young, ambitious, enthusiastic and cheap'

    • @beanermcmexicano1488
      @beanermcmexicano1488 8 років тому +11

      +schemedemon it ain't that difficult, you just have to buy a lut package and drag it to your footage in davinci, as easy as it can get.

    • @fiev
      @fiev 5 років тому +8

      but I like this soft look

  • @chicox3me
    @chicox3me 8 років тому +102

    Those times when VICE gets it right.
    Just let the two professionals spill awesomeness.

  • @ThePrimordialChronicles
    @ThePrimordialChronicles 7 років тому +23

    Roger Deakins is so humble... damn,such a great human being

  • @wowgabewow
    @wowgabewow 8 років тому +166

    Now I gotta go watch Cartel Land lol

    • @sqwavee
      @sqwavee 8 років тому

      +wowgabewow Same haha

    • @anthonychrisbradley
      @anthonychrisbradley 8 років тому +3

      It's pretty amazing

    • @StreetsOfVancouverChannel
      @StreetsOfVancouverChannel 8 років тому

      +wowgabewow Netflix...

    • @sqwavee
      @sqwavee 8 років тому

      +Streets of Vancouver Why such a condescending response? He didn't say that he doesn't know where to find the movie, he was just saying that this video peaked his interest (as it did mine).

    • @StreetsOfVancouverChannel
      @StreetsOfVancouverChannel 8 років тому +4

      *****
      Condescending? It's just a way to find the documentary... wow, you really are quite the misanthrope, eh?

  • @CAHK83
    @CAHK83 8 років тому +54

    Sicario was beyond a "cartel" related movie. Benecio took that film to another place.

    • @kushdaddy144
      @kushdaddy144 8 років тому

      +CAHK83 Cartel land was a documentary.

    • @CAHK83
      @CAHK83 8 років тому +12

      +kushdaddy144 Sharpen up your reading skills pal.

    • @b.g.3073
      @b.g.3073 4 роки тому

      Alejandro is my favorite character of all-time, and quite possibly one of the greatest characters of all-time.

  • @phantomsoil
    @phantomsoil 8 років тому +1

    This was great to see. I'm so glad you got these two together and filmed it. Thanks Vice peeps.

  • @DMan-G
    @DMan-G 7 років тому +17

    Roger Deakins is the god. Prisoners, No Country, Sicario are some of the most powerfully realized image sequences ever achieved. And I love how he forms relationships with and stays loyal to brilliant directors like the Coen Brothers and Villeneuve!

  • @SmokeeWhine
    @SmokeeWhine 6 років тому +2

    Really great interesting conversation. I really enjoyed this! The comparison of the two films made me want to make sure I see them both. I can already see some parallels in the way they both are able to convey raw emotion in their films.

  • @ErikNaso
    @ErikNaso 8 років тому +10

    Great interview. Now I need to watch Cartel Land. Looks amazing

  • @Mojo__
    @Mojo__ 8 років тому +7

    A good video from Vice. Haven't had this in quite a while.

  • @lej_explains
    @lej_explains 4 роки тому +2

    Easily the best documentary I've ever seen, glad to see a master like Deakins felt so highly about it too. Heineman's doc is as tense or even more tense than Scario and it was all shot run-and-gun, just insane.

  • @davidlean1060
    @davidlean1060 6 років тому +2

    He seems such a quietly jolly fellow. He's easy going and never far from a little chuckle when he speaks. An easy individual to like if you happened to meet him in person I imagine.

  • @christianacharalambous5610
    @christianacharalambous5610 8 років тому +4

    it's so awesome seeing Roger asking questions :)

  • @eltiomak
    @eltiomak 8 років тому

    nice work vice! u make my morning :) wish it lasted longer

  • @retardedvaxxedliberal
    @retardedvaxxedliberal 8 років тому +30

    It's strange how Roger Deakins has been nominated for an Oscar 13 times and STILL hasn't won yet. Oscars are mostly won from luck.

    • @ProfessaJ
      @ProfessaJ 4 роки тому +2

      lubezki is pretty good too~

  • @sebastiansfeci1305
    @sebastiansfeci1305 8 років тому

    this was just delightful. Great watch

  • @rickylovesyou9063
    @rickylovesyou9063 8 років тому +1

    Both epic movies, both gloriously shot. Perfect combination for a little Q&A

  • @SenorPescadorJohnson
    @SenorPescadorJohnson 8 років тому

    muchas gracias, thanks para este entrevista, well done kudos
    Incredible work, trabajo increible...
    Cheers
    Senor Pescador
    I got some stories also, 70's taking seeds and shotgun shells to Michoacan, jaaaa among other stories like CR-Nica border, 80-91 too many to name wait for our movie
    great to see you
    I worked sets wilmywood, first one Firestarter, 2 other Steven King ones, Cyborg, etc was fun times, we will our movie 'El Ostionero' en 95% El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico, maybe a little Belize, jaaaaa not too much Belize scary tube off Caye Caulker in the 80's...

  • @r3dfella
    @r3dfella 8 років тому

    Awesome video VICE, thanks!

  • @robnickerson7819
    @robnickerson7819 8 років тому +127

    HUGE fan of Roger Deakins. Very excited he's doing Blade Runner 2

    • @SenorPescadorJohnson
      @SenorPescadorJohnson 8 років тому

      +Rob Nickerson thanks for info

    • @StarCrusher.
      @StarCrusher. 8 років тому +4

      +Rob Nickerson I'm not worried about the visuals but the plot.

    • @robnickerson7819
      @robnickerson7819 8 років тому +3

      +StarCrusher Well if both are good that would fuckin rock right? Ryan Gosling is the lead and he's awesome and Harrison ford is suppose to be in the "third act" which is the final one. I swear they better not make Deckerd a replicant lol

    • @robnickerson7819
      @robnickerson7819 8 років тому

      +StarCrusher Denis Villanueve is a awesome director tho I trust him he just did Sicario with Deakins and that movie was fantastic

    • @StarCrusher.
      @StarCrusher. 8 років тому

      Rob Nickerson
      I'm just not sure where the movie can even go. I'm afraid it will ruin some of the ambiguity of the ending. Blade Runner explored a lot of interesting philosophical topics so a sequel seems unnecessary but I'm hoping to be surprised.

  • @NicksFort
    @NicksFort 5 років тому

    Fantastic and productive conversation. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @StreetsOfVancouverChannel
    @StreetsOfVancouverChannel 8 років тому +3

    Dammmmn... mighty fine piece, VICE!

  • @mjgfromDDD
    @mjgfromDDD 4 роки тому +3

    All respect and gratitude for Mr. Deakins and his work on Sicario. For me however, Cartel Land is as raw and real as it gets. Plus it's shot just like a movie more than a documentary style feel. Matthew did amazing with that project.

  • @moreskids
    @moreskids 8 років тому +9

    vice on the come up

  • @AllThingsFilm1
    @AllThingsFilm1 3 роки тому

    What a great interview of two film makers. Now, I want to find the documentaries that Deakins worked on. Including "Cartel" by Matthew Heineman.

  • @CaptainMacTavishSoap
    @CaptainMacTavishSoap 8 років тому +14

    I just found out that Roger Deakins has never won an Academy Award for Best Cinematography...WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!

  • @mangolollipop_
    @mangolollipop_ 8 років тому +4

    I reckon Heineman and Deakins should collaborate at some point. I enjoyed this Vice short because I love Roger Deakins and I like his work with Coen Brothers and Denis Villeneuve.

  • @mopurinowshad1475
    @mopurinowshad1475 4 роки тому +1

    Best conversation ever

  • @akeating89
    @akeating89 8 років тому

    What a fantastic discussion.

  • @wrthit1915
    @wrthit1915 8 років тому +1

    wow. two amazing artists.

  • @coreymach_
    @coreymach_ 8 років тому +105

    VICE why no color grade?

    • @marcel1416
      @marcel1416 8 років тому +27

      Imagine a shitty color grade in a short documentary about one of the greatest cinematographer hollywood has and a documentarian/cinematographer who is not too bad himself :D
      I like it better like that :D

    • @nicolaslabra2225
      @nicolaslabra2225 6 років тому +4

      well then record in rec 709

    • @StereoChimps
      @StereoChimps 6 років тому +3

      why would you put color grade in this vídeo there is no need at all ! the natural light is jut perfect color grading are for amateurs !

    • @Flubly
      @Flubly 6 років тому +12

      StereoChimps it has nothing to do with natural light. Log recording is flat for the purpose of creating your own gamma curve. Film naturally has an s curve response when printed, so you have to be given latitude in digital to have the options you would have when picking different film stocks. Log is decidedly unnatural looking. Not much in reality looks that flat, it's purely an intermediary tool.

    • @adamrickman2461
      @adamrickman2461 6 років тому +6

      I was thinking the same, but as I watched, I realized that their films just stood out a lot more. I feel they probably could have done a little bit more contrast, but it really makes the footage from these two stand out.

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo 6 років тому +26

    A video about a great cinematographer and no color grading!

    • @palpafilms
      @palpafilms Рік тому

      So like two people just having a conversation with absolutely no fuss?

    • @VariTimo
      @VariTimo Рік тому +1

      @@palpafilms I wrote this comment five years ago. I think I’m able to articulate it better now:
      This video was shot with something called logarithmic encoding aka Log. This is done to fit as much color and light information into a digital file as possible. It is not meant to be viewed in Log. You’re supposed to use something called a gamma transform to give it normal color and contrast. That is what I was getting at. This video looks very flat because it is in Log. And five years ago I was under the impression that you need to manually color grade Log footage to look normal. That’s something I now know is only done on lower end projects, in professional workflows it is very rare to work on Log directly, without using a gamma transform.

    • @palpafilms
      @palpafilms Рік тому

      @@VariTimo appreciate the reply, everyday is a school day!

    • @VariTimo
      @VariTimo Рік тому +1

      @@palpafilms You’re welcome!

  • @ghost__chips
    @ghost__chips 8 років тому +1

    15hr version please

  • @TrondBie
    @TrondBie 8 років тому

    This was excellent

  • @syrzximifu5596
    @syrzximifu5596 8 років тому

    they have so much respect for each-other.

  • @renosvoyage
    @renosvoyage 3 роки тому +2

    It's like Roger talking to his very talented filmmaker son that he's very proud of!

  • @chrisworkhunter3876
    @chrisworkhunter3876 2 місяці тому

    "The perhaps inevitable fact that the story would be exactly the same." What a haunting takeaway from the experience

  • @miguel.ito7
    @miguel.ito7 8 років тому +4

    Unbelievably, Roger Deakins has never won Best Cinematography at the Oscars despite 13 nominations. This is just one of many reasons as to why the Oscars are total garbage anyway. Deakins' work is masterful in its precision. Probably the best low-light photographer around, and if you didn't already notice that in Sicario, just check out Prisoners. Mindbogglingly under appreciated.

  • @ErenBesiroglu
    @ErenBesiroglu 8 років тому +1

    He really geeked the fuck out at 3:55!
    Then again who wouldn't, because it's Roger Deakins ffs!
    Props on holding your shit together for that whole interview Matt.

  • @directedbymorenotempini
    @directedbymorenotempini 3 роки тому

    Omg so this is where the podcast picture came from...0:48

  • @MrEdwar084
    @MrEdwar084 8 років тому

    Cartel Land deserves the Oscar for best Doc.

  • @yashkaushik9646
    @yashkaushik9646 3 роки тому

    That dog picture is one used in his poscast .

  • @drinkarrowhead
    @drinkarrowhead 8 років тому

    So.Good.

  • @MisterBigBlunts
    @MisterBigBlunts 8 років тому +11

    This title is not very accurate at all. I mean, it was a great video, but they talked almost NOTHING about depicting the Drug War in Film. They just talked about their films, which happened to both depict the drug war. But I was expecting them to talk about the taboos and cliches and stuff like that, and why it's a tricky subject to talk about, Not just them flattering each other for 15 minutes.

  • @TheBirdieView
    @TheBirdieView 8 років тому

    Why do they cut us in in the middle of the sentences

  • @leotownsend
    @leotownsend 8 років тому

    Vibin this

  • @TheHyperDonutsVideos
    @TheHyperDonutsVideos 8 років тому +23

    anyone notice the freemason ring at 8:59?

    • @ph1ogic
      @ph1ogic 8 років тому +4

      +TheHyperDonutsVideos illuminati confirmed

    • @SenorPescadorJohnson
      @SenorPescadorJohnson 8 років тому

      +TheHyperDonutsVideos I saw when I watched it cpl weeks ago yep

    • @jalcones6574
      @jalcones6574 8 років тому +1

      intesting considering they say the police are the real gang, might have some truth behind it.

    • @rickylovesyou9063
      @rickylovesyou9063 8 років тому

      Yes! Didn't. Notice it the first time, most likely because I was busy reading the text during the first view of the movie.

  • @hkm2023
    @hkm2023 3 роки тому

    Pretty sure Deakins thought "Well those highlights on the fence in the back of this interview Setup are going to be blown Out and give a continuity problem.." Vice cinematographer learned a lesson there haha

  • @tellumx8113
    @tellumx8113 6 років тому +1

    The hat on the camera LMAO 6:58

  • @JaspreetSinghArtist
    @JaspreetSinghArtist 6 років тому

    just WoW

  • @mahzsom1
    @mahzsom1 8 років тому

    I can't understand what Deakins says at the end. Who was shooting documentaries in his 90s? 14:50

    • @masonharrelson
      @masonharrelson 8 років тому +6

      +lunardistance Haskell Wexler

    • @mahzsom1
      @mahzsom1 8 років тому +1

      thank you brother

  • @barrybags55
    @barrybags55 4 роки тому

    Imagine being Roger Deakins TV.. would need to be on your A game

  • @ronniepickering5511
    @ronniepickering5511 4 роки тому +1

    wonder what deakins thinks of act of killing

  • @Pie4menow
    @Pie4menow 8 років тому

    same

  • @julienajarry
    @julienajarry 5 років тому

    This is so good. As a cinematographer, the lack of color in their skin is very distracting. It could be Sony Cine. Finish strong.

  • @simontfernandez
    @simontfernandez 8 років тому

    "you know" seems a bit overused in this conversation.

  • @shaid1111
    @shaid1111 6 років тому +1

    I feel bad for any cameraman who has to set up a shot in front of Roger Deakins...

    • @corneliuganeacompany2160
      @corneliuganeacompany2160 4 роки тому +1

      why? just because he is who he is doesn't mean you have to stop doing your thing. remain humble and learn if you make mistakes. I rather get corrected by Mr. Deakins. Hell, I might even make one mistake on purpose just to start a conversation with him. don't be a rabbit caught in the headlights.

  • @drewwhitney1322
    @drewwhitney1322 7 років тому

    Roger, you jinxed Haskell.

  • @Azuwat
    @Azuwat 6 років тому

    Cartel land was so good

  • @Oborowatabinostk
    @Oborowatabinostk 8 років тому

    Are they gonna work together? If not, they should!

  • @kingconor1515
    @kingconor1515 8 років тому +29

    I'll change everybody's bum lives who work for vice.

    • @shotbyjesse70
      @shotbyjesse70 8 років тому

      +King Conor enjoy your bum life while it lasts LOL. tick tock, tick tock tick tock...

    • @fuckenps3
      @fuckenps3 6 років тому +1

      What?

  • @Tony_BrookfieldMedia
    @Tony_BrookfieldMedia 4 роки тому

    The question Deakins asks on a Carteland follow-up. Is the answer typical of docuists? Paraphrase - no point, it would be the same.

  • @WorldofThaiFood
    @WorldofThaiFood 4 роки тому +1

    Deakins ungraded - the irony of it hurts my soul

  • @KTMR3130
    @KTMR3130 8 років тому

    The fucking 🐐 Deakins!

  • @RossWilcox
    @RossWilcox 8 років тому +1

    Color grade much?

  • @Makta972
    @Makta972 4 роки тому +3

    Sicario 1 was good the second one was pure crap

  • @ArturoGutierrezSb
    @ArturoGutierrezSb 4 роки тому

    Put subtitles in Spanish!!!

  • @joemanhwihan6874
    @joemanhwihan6874 6 років тому

    333:1 shooting ratio...

  • @caroplol3928
    @caroplol3928 8 років тому

    Nogla your Black ops 3 zombies is still there

  • @delonge5000
    @delonge5000 7 років тому +3

    deaks is feeling intimidated

  • @BlueFourDelta
    @BlueFourDelta 8 років тому +3

    I enjoyed the content in this video, and very much enjoyed each of the films these two created this year, but I don't understand why the skin tones are so disgusting in this video.

  • @vipes777
    @vipes777 8 років тому

    3

  • @vsaucemikal8888
    @vsaucemikal8888 8 років тому

    Second!!!!!

  • @blissfuleats6843
    @blissfuleats6843 4 роки тому

    Slap a luma curve on this...

  • @Hiphop101ize
    @Hiphop101ize 8 років тому

    last!

  • @stephenblackwell7351
    @stephenblackwell7351 8 років тому

    Shit (sorry for bad English)

  • @adonyz666
    @adonyz666 8 років тому

    come on we wanna see the skinny guy that does drugs to be on drugs

  • @rgesualdo
    @rgesualdo 3 роки тому

    the Dr just died recently

  • @michaeloliver6349
    @michaeloliver6349 4 місяці тому

    Hide behind the camera 🤌🤌🤌

  • @thelogicalasshole6410
    @thelogicalasshole6410 8 років тому

    Thought it said Richard Dawkins
    Saw Deakins
    disliked, commented and left
    *tips fedora

  • @christopherthompson651
    @christopherthompson651 8 років тому

    Roger Deakins > Emmanuel Lubezki

    • @djkurse9209
      @djkurse9209 8 років тому +2

      Their equals . Both at the top for sure

  • @TheDutchVegaShow
    @TheDutchVegaShow 8 років тому

    two white guys oscar nominated?! what a SURPRISE! :/

    • @fastenbulbous
      @fastenbulbous 8 років тому +16

      +TheDutchVegaShow Two brilliant filmmakers get oscar nominations!? What a surprise!

    • @bergeronhl
      @bergeronhl 8 років тому +5

      It's cause were superior.

    • @anthonychrisbradley
      @anthonychrisbradley 8 років тому +3

      Everyone took the bait

    • @calholli
      @calholli 8 років тому

      +TheDutchVegaShow
      you are so right
      BLACK GUNS MATTER