"Look, and you never can see it-- it is too subtle. Listen, and you never can hear it-- it is too faint. Feel for it, and you never can take hold of it-- it is too elusive. These three merge into the one, they form the ineffable whole of the Tao." Tao Te Ching 14 Inquiry into these lines provoked something for me many years ago. Time to return to it.
Thank you so much, Angelo! I’ve watched so many of your videos this past week. I woke up a few years ago just from feeling so much suffering inside. Once I found that presence, I thought that was the end of the journey. You have opened up so much more for me. I truly appreciate all your hard work. I know it’s not easy making so many videos.
This was a great video Angelo. Concentrating on our sensory experience; is that the gate to realization? Please make more videos on this topic. Thank you. 🙏
What you are describing has been my experience, but you've said it in a different way than my attempts to describe it. When I write or talk about it I talk about noticing the silence within sound, the movement within stillness and even the peacefulness within anger. These are always apparent to me, but it's hard conveying it since it's non-conceptual and paradoxical. Attention is habitually fixated on sound, movement, emotions and objects that it completely misses the ever present silence, stillness and peace that's prior to all of that.
Soo..... open up to vibration (so to speak). There is a lake or field of vibration that is always happening, always "fluxing", and we structure it with our Kantian categories (so to speak) in order to give it solidity and form and all of that good stuff (so to speak).
What fun to have the images behind you, as you speak about the subtle changing in appearance the whole time you're speaking. Incredible illustration of the content of the talk.
when i am able to really listen to you while also letting attention move about the body and its extended fields, the not yet conditioned manifolds of sensation (and their envelopment in other fields as well); it's almost as if there isn't room for any causal relation to hold between the empty cognizance and the inner essence of the world. also, i can't actually believe i found you on youtube... the chances seem more likely that this is a lucid dream haha. thank you so so much.
Very helpful, thanks. Listening to your explanations helped me to integrate my own experiences and somehow make it more easy to bring the attention to the subtle in more everyday settings rather than in very controlled environments. This is so helpful. Thanks .
Letting you know if this was helpful… Yes! Thank you, Angelo. In the process of making visual art (painting, photography, or just seeing) there have been experiences of innocent vision, and so I recognise where you took me: being aware of the labels/thought constructs, and at the same time being aware of visual field minus that overlay. But the experience has never been so clear as while watching/listening to this video. Thank you.
This was awesome, major helpful. What you said about the visual sense-field. "What is there that is none of that". Let me rest as Seeing and see the utter obviousness of it as well 😆. Thanks!
Hi Angelo, I liked this one. I've watched alot of your vids and read your book. I'd love to talk to you. I feel like conceptually I KNOW where I am and where I'm going, but intuitively I know the conceptualisation isn't helping. For me, the challenge is balance, I commit every spare moment to this, but with a job and family to look after, I fear I can't manage the time required to fully realise my true nature. All I know is, awakening is my primary personal motivation.
I understand ♥️ Nothing real will go away. It’s common to go through periods of fear or even existential terror. They are often short lived (as sensations) but the mind reflecting on them can make them seem “bigger” or more of a concern than they really are. Truly it’s just an emotion. Always be willing to feel whatever arises and things will go well for you. If fear arises just notice “fear is here.” You can give it permission to be here in the body. Also if things get too intense it can always be helpful to spend time in nature, doing natural meditation, spend time with animals, take a bath, or whatever is soothing to the body-mind.
what I cannot fully grasp is "while you look what is there look also at what is not there" I don't know if I'm paraphrasing incorrectly. I will focus to what is there for now ;)
Would an equivalent pointer to “notice what’s not there” be something like “intuit where all what’s perceived arises from”? This variation feels very powerful to me - ‘sensing’ the origin of where everything is seen from and letting the mind surrender there.
Could you describe the subtlety in the sound almost like, each sound is vivid, real, here, and almost alive with something? It’s like sound, plus. It’s like each sound is emanating a kind of lightbulb of vividness. Maybe like when you get a koan you were working on, but it’s continuous with the sound. Just wondering if that’s what you mean? It’s like there is the sound, and the silence between the sound makes it stand out in a big way.
Yes definitely. But of course no need to describe just stay “there.” Also “each sound” … where does one sound become the next? Each ness requires a dividing line yes? Notice a thought is required to define one sound as distinct from another 😊
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake in retrospect yes, I would have to reflect on each sound as a thing to divide or separate it. I feel like I wouldn’t even describe it as thought as for me that word has a verbal thought connotation but maybe, discrimination? We are wanting to access the rawness of sound but even without thought there seems like something is dividing the sounds into discreet entities. But this may just be the reflective mind.
I can access maybe small moments of nondiscrimination of sound, where the entire sensory field of vision will fade and I can’t even say the sound is there for that moment.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Okay, now what should I do with that, should I continue to dwell their attempt to try and extend the amount of timelessness in which this Mode of non-being or whatever it is can inhabit?
How do you increase the gap between sound and the thought? Can a sound be heard before the thought? If so, what's the best way to go about experiencing this?
Absolutely sound can be heard before thought, indeed it is all the time, BUT attention bounces back to the mind very quickly doesn’t it? Watch and see. Put your attention right on a sound then just let that be there until you notice some thinking. How long did it take? 3 seconds? 10 seconds? Keep practicing. See how long you can go. And notice how the sound starts to change in waking. Does it feel closer, more powerful? More inside? Maybe this will be my next video.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake The labelling of a sound seem to happen very quickly, perhaps within a small fraction of a second… the mind goes: that’s a car engine almost right away; it appears to happen at the same time as the sound itself. A video on this would be amazing! Thank you.
@@tomorrowneverknows248 even noticing what you just said is powerful, really. The next step is practice turning your attention from one sense to another or one sound to another and try to lean into that sense and “just hearing” for a few seconds. You can definitely expand that gap through practice. The truth is most people don’t work at this. They’d rather try to meditate themselves into nothingness 🤣.
@@tomorrowneverknows248 Thanks for sharing your experience. I am at this stage as well. It seems there is no delay between sound and label. I’ll work on it ! Angelo, thank you for all your body of work, it is a goldmine.
This video was very helpful. when listening, it was helpful for me to keep asking myself who is the observer? I can't describe the experience in words, but felt very present. It felt expanding. I suppose simply asking the question is a thought, is this what you meant by experiencing both states at the same time?
Great! That’s a very good question to ask! Keep asking. See if you can find where you look back to when looking for that observer . Do you find anything?
Hi doctor. During these meditations/explorations, I find the feeling very similar to zoning out or even disassociating. Can you tell me if I'm doing something wrong or describe how the 2 experiences should differ?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake thanks for the response. I've always been prone to "zoning out" in my youth. Perhaps I'm falsely labeling it as dissociation due to ignorance on the topic. But these meditations don't seem uncomfortable at all. In fact, it can sometimes feel very much familiar due to my past experience in my younger years. I'm just not certain if I'm doing it wrong or if I've been accidentally doing it all my life. It feels like my entire being has been immersed into something much greater than what I would conventially experience on a day to day basis, which I can only describe as feeling both engaged yet strangely empty. But I almost become unresponsive to the things happening around me. I notice my fiance speaking to me, but to respond to her feels like an immense amount of effort during one of the explorations. Whenever this would happen in the past, people would tell me that I just "zoned out" so that's what I always believed it to be.
@@justsomeguy6419 I don’t think that’s disassociated at all. I think you have had a propensity for unbound consciousness/ presence your whole life. It’s only the thoughts popping up here and there wondering if it’s real or somehow off. That’s the doubtmass. Can you imagine moving through life free if the doubtnass? It’s closer than. You think! :)
So you knew you were going to get that video game quote from me on Zubin didn’t you?.. I just wasn’t ready to see that at the time… are you my spirit guide?
What’s none of that, that’s a sticking point and hard to grasp intellectually. Not sure what that means. I’m looking at a blueberry but you’re asking me not to notice it simultaneously?
the third way worked best for me. pointing to impermanence illuminates the silence within the noise
"Look, and you never can see it--
it is too subtle.
Listen, and you never can hear it--
it is too faint.
Feel for it, and you never can take hold of it--
it is too elusive.
These three merge into the one,
they form the ineffable whole of the Tao."
Tao Te Ching 14
Inquiry into these lines provoked something for me many years ago. Time to return to it.
Thank you so much, Angelo! I’ve watched so many of your videos this past week. I woke up a few years ago just from feeling so much suffering inside. Once I found that presence, I thought that was the end of the journey. You have opened up so much more for me. I truly appreciate all your hard work. I know it’s not easy making so many videos.
Thank you for commenting and happy journey :))))
This was a great video Angelo. Concentrating on our sensory experience; is that the gate to realization? Please make more videos on this topic. Thank you. 🙏
What you are describing has been my experience, but you've said it in a different way than my attempts to describe it. When I write or talk about it I talk about noticing the silence within sound, the movement within stillness and even the peacefulness within anger. These are always apparent to me, but it's hard conveying it since it's non-conceptual and paradoxical.
Attention is habitually fixated on sound, movement, emotions and objects that it completely misses the ever present silence, stillness and peace that's prior to all of that.
Soo..... open up to vibration (so to speak). There is a lake or field of vibration that is always happening, always "fluxing", and we structure it with our Kantian categories (so to speak) in order to give it solidity and form and all of that good stuff (so to speak).
Very nice. So then we can prioritize how much of our attention and heart *that gets throughout the day ☺️
Thank you so much for this teaching. So clarifying. I would love to see more videos about this.🙏
What fun to have the images behind you, as you speak about the subtle changing in appearance the whole time you're speaking. Incredible illustration of the content of the talk.
The references to the subtle ,are explained very precisely! 👍
Yes, please . If you could do a meditation to guide in settling in the subtle reality. ❤
when i am able to really listen to you while also letting attention move about the body and its extended fields, the not yet conditioned manifolds of sensation (and their envelopment in other fields as well); it's almost as if there isn't room for any causal relation to hold between the empty cognizance and the inner essence of the world. also, i can't actually believe i found you on youtube... the chances seem more likely that this is a lucid dream haha. thank you so so much.
Awesome. You’re welcome .
this channel is awesome!! i read your book and really liked it but your videos are even better imo.
Glad you like it! More coming :)
Yes! Very helpful. More please!
Very helpful, thanks. Listening to your explanations helped me to integrate my own experiences and somehow make it more easy to bring the attention to the subtle in more everyday settings rather than in very controlled environments. This is so helpful. Thanks .
Wonderful!
Letting you know if this was helpful… Yes! Thank you, Angelo.
In the process of making visual art (painting, photography, or just seeing) there have been experiences of innocent vision, and so I recognise where you took me: being aware of the labels/thought constructs, and at the same time being aware of visual field minus that overlay. But the experience has never been so clear as while watching/listening to this video. Thank you.
Wonderful, art is a great conduit for investigation of non-dualistic nature
This was awesome, major helpful. What you said about the visual sense-field. "What is there that is none of that". Let me rest as Seeing and see the utter obviousness of it as well 😆. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Angelo. I am not sure if this was helpful yet, but I would like to hear more videos describing what we are looking for.
Hi Angelo, I liked this one. I've watched alot of your vids and read your book. I'd love to talk to you. I feel like conceptually I KNOW where I am and where I'm going, but intuitively I know the conceptualisation isn't helping. For me, the challenge is balance, I commit every spare moment to this, but with a job and family to look after, I fear I can't manage the time required to fully realise my true nature. All I know is, awakening is my primary personal motivation.
very helpful. thank you
You're welcome!
this is amazing. liked subscribed
Angelo, a part of me is completely terrified of this message but for some reason I always come back wanting to listen and can’t seem to stop
I understand ♥️
Nothing real will go away. It’s common to go through periods of fear or even existential terror. They are often short lived (as sensations) but the mind reflecting on them can make them seem “bigger” or more of a concern than they really are. Truly it’s just an emotion. Always be willing to feel whatever arises and things will go well for you. If fear arises just notice “fear is here.” You can give it permission to be here in the body. Also if things get too intense it can always be helpful to spend time in nature, doing natural meditation, spend time with animals, take a bath, or whatever is soothing to the body-mind.
I agree. I was feeling that same fear today when listening to this. I’ve never felt a fear before on this journey.
helpful thank you!
what I cannot fully grasp is "while you look what is there look also at what is not there" I don't know if I'm paraphrasing incorrectly. I will focus to what is there for now ;)
Just keep looking at what is there, at some point it will be blatantly obvious, not vague or theoretical :) Tx for your comment
Would an equivalent pointer to “notice what’s not there” be something like “intuit where all what’s perceived arises from”? This variation feels very powerful to me - ‘sensing’ the origin of where everything is seen from and letting the mind surrender there.
use what resonates for you and leads you into clearer experience
Could you describe the subtlety in the sound almost like, each sound is vivid, real, here, and almost alive with something? It’s like sound, plus. It’s like each sound is emanating a kind of lightbulb of vividness. Maybe like when you get a koan you were working on, but it’s continuous with the sound.
Just wondering if that’s what you mean? It’s like there is the sound, and the silence between the sound makes it stand out in a big way.
Yes definitely. But of course no need to describe just stay “there.” Also “each sound” … where does one sound become the next? Each ness requires a dividing line yes? Notice a thought is required to define one sound as distinct from another 😊
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake in retrospect yes, I would have to reflect on each sound as a thing to divide or separate it. I feel like I wouldn’t even describe it as thought as for me that word has a verbal thought connotation but maybe, discrimination? We are wanting to access the rawness of sound but even without thought there seems like something is dividing the sounds into discreet entities. But this may just be the reflective mind.
I can access maybe small moments of nondiscrimination of sound, where the entire sensory field of vision will fade and I can’t even say the sound is there for that moment.
@@Mevlinous yes!!!
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Okay, now what should I do with that, should I continue to dwell their attempt to try and extend the amount of timelessness in which this Mode of non-being or whatever it is can inhabit?
How do you increase the gap between sound and the thought? Can a sound be heard before the thought? If so, what's the best way to go about experiencing this?
Absolutely sound can be heard before thought, indeed it is all the time, BUT attention bounces back to the mind very quickly doesn’t it? Watch and see. Put your attention right on a sound then just let that be there until you notice some thinking. How long did it take? 3 seconds? 10 seconds? Keep practicing. See how long you can go. And notice how the sound starts to change in waking. Does it feel closer, more powerful? More inside? Maybe this will be my next video.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake The labelling of a sound seem to happen very quickly, perhaps within a small fraction of a second… the mind goes: that’s a car engine almost right away; it appears to happen at the same time as the sound itself. A video on this would be amazing! Thank you.
@@tomorrowneverknows248 even noticing what you just said is powerful, really. The next step is practice turning your attention from one sense to another or one sound to another and try to lean into that sense and “just hearing” for a few seconds. You can definitely expand that gap through practice. The truth is most people don’t work at this. They’d rather try to meditate themselves into nothingness 🤣.
@@tomorrowneverknows248 Thanks for sharing your experience. I am at this stage as well. It seems there is no delay between sound and label. I’ll work on it !
Angelo, thank you for all your body of work, it is a goldmine.
These comments are so helpful. Thank you.
This video was very helpful. when listening, it was helpful for me to keep asking myself who is the observer? I can't describe the experience in words, but felt very present. It felt expanding. I suppose simply asking the question is a thought, is this what you meant by experiencing both states at the same time?
Great! That’s a very good question to ask! Keep asking. See if you can find where you look back to when looking for that observer . Do you find anything?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake I don’t see anything, but feel a calmness and expansion. Peaceful.
@@lindagordet9590 I love it ☺️
What do I do next?
Keep investigating in this way until all sense of subject-object construct has dissolved. Until there are no perceptible boundaries anywhere.
Hi doctor. During these meditations/explorations, I find the feeling very similar to zoning out or even disassociating. Can you tell me if I'm doing something wrong or describe how the 2 experiences should differ?
Does it feel uncomfortable? What makes you think it’s disassociated? It may be, just trying to get more a advise of what your experience is?
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake thanks for the response. I've always been prone to "zoning out" in my youth. Perhaps I'm falsely labeling it as dissociation due to ignorance on the topic. But these meditations don't seem uncomfortable at all. In fact, it can sometimes feel very much familiar due to my past experience in my younger years. I'm just not certain if I'm doing it wrong or if I've been accidentally doing it all my life. It feels like my entire being has been immersed into something much greater than what I would conventially experience on a day to day basis, which I can only describe as feeling both engaged yet strangely empty. But I almost become unresponsive to the things happening around me. I notice my fiance speaking to me, but to respond to her feels like an immense amount of effort during one of the explorations. Whenever this would happen in the past, people would tell me that I just "zoned out" so that's what I always believed it to be.
@@justsomeguy6419 I don’t think that’s disassociated at all. I think you have had a propensity for unbound consciousness/ presence your whole life. It’s only the thoughts popping up here and there wondering if it’s real or somehow off. That’s the doubtmass. Can you imagine moving through life free if the doubtnass? It’s closer than. You think! :)
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake thanks so much, doctor! Your channel and book have changed my life.
@@justsomeguy6419 glad to hear it my friend
So you knew you were going to get that video game quote from me on Zubin didn’t you?.. I just wasn’t ready to see that at the time… are you my spirit guide?
I must’ve missed it 🤷🏼♂️
Yes
Hard to describe with words is it not. I use to believe I was just mentally ill , escapism . LOL
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What’s none of that, that’s a sticking point and hard to grasp intellectually. Not sure what that means. I’m looking at a blueberry but you’re asking me not to notice it simultaneously?
Its so obviouse u dont even notice it😂