Why Do People Stance Their Cars?

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  • @iamjuan6762
    @iamjuan6762 Рік тому +1386

    Why did I stance my car? - “There’s really no actual answer”. This is the exact response I’d expect from stance car owners.

    • @MattMatt77
      @MattMatt77 Рік тому +29

      Nobody found a good reason yet to run with it looks like.

    • @adamlewellen5081
      @adamlewellen5081 Рік тому +71

      Why stance? Because I hate tires and safety 😂

    • @affectedrl5327
      @affectedrl5327 Рік тому +135

      The real reason for those stance cars seems to be attention. They all mentioned Social Media etc.

    • @hawaiian_judge5113
      @hawaiian_judge5113 Рік тому +27

      @@affectedrl5327 All it ever was for.

    • @defmiino
      @defmiino Рік тому +2

      @@affectedrl5327 oh dears :'(((((

  • @apileofrocks5142
    @apileofrocks5142 Рік тому +400

    I'm all for people doing what they want, despite other people not liking it. However, I also think when "social media" is your why, it's not a good thing.

    • @Keef4859
      @Keef4859 Рік тому +29

      I think you have a very respectable way of looking at it.

    • @BROWARDTRILL
      @BROWARDTRILL Рік тому

      Follower

    • @androiduberalles
      @androiduberalles Рік тому +5

      That's like my first "skip" for a girl now, if they do something for social media. Lol, unreal how often that is.

    • @blakelip3
      @blakelip3 Рік тому +4

      Yeah you’ve already lost seeking validation from others

    • @albinbiju7231
      @albinbiju7231 Рік тому +2

      Social media almost exclusively shows the pros, never the cons. I think it helps people overlook the cons a lot easier than folks who modify a car based on other forms of references. In my opinion, operating a 2500+ lbs piece of metal while overlooking the shortcomings of a certain decision is pretty dangerous. The same problem can apply to other things in life too lol.

  • @triple-7839
    @triple-7839 Рік тому +689

    If the dude with the Volkswagen talked about his build being "unique" one more time I don't think I would've made it through the whole video, idk how many times I've seen that generation vw lowered on those exact same wheels

    • @cay378
      @cay378 Рік тому +83

      i came to the comments as soon as he showed up and it’s absolutely laughable it’s included as a “stance” car lmfao

    • @triple-7839
      @triple-7839 Рік тому +45

      @@cay378 yeah I mean it's low ig but it's still more or less some regular ass traffic

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain Рік тому +62

      Dude has the most basic wheels on the most basic ass generation of golf

    • @tickandslug
      @tickandslug Рік тому +16

      There are a ton of identical golfs running around at the meets around me. Slammed on those wheels or on knockoff BBS wheels claiming that they are real.

    • @inazupra
      @inazupra Рік тому +2

      Insert “she looks like every other bitch” meme here lol. Nothing unique about that car 😆

  • @stus1171
    @stus1171 Рік тому +335

    “Social media” is all the owner needed to say.

    • @shadix232
      @shadix232 Рік тому +3

      I mean how else ppl now in days going to see a style they like. Not like back in the day you would see shit on car shows. Acting up for clout is one thing.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      social media is a good reason

  • @jordanbowes5707
    @jordanbowes5707 Рік тому +728

    Stanced cars are useful. It's great for the rest of us to know from a distance who not to talk to.

  • @nathanva9605
    @nathanva9605 Рік тому +121

    Gears and Gasoline said it once before, “Don’t be unique, be genuine.”

    • @PureOptic
      @PureOptic Рік тому +5

      Fully agree. Doing it to be genuine is a dangerous path to justify your choices based on others' opinions. Do it cause you like it, not because it hasn't been done before.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      unique and genuine?

  • @PidseriaWinkleroni
    @PidseriaWinkleroni Рік тому +55

    I cringed so hard when I saw that fender at 0:35
    Maybe the border between customizing and ruining is when your customizations literally destroy your car.

    • @landonfolken03
      @landonfolken03 Рік тому +3

      Yeah when the whole point is looks but then you're making your car look like ish from the damage...what the heck is the point???

  • @zrkmedia7417
    @zrkmedia7417 Рік тому +197

    half of the issues can be solved by using air suspension. never got the appeal of ruining your car just to have props for being static lol especially cars over 20k but yeah, its their money!

    • @J_spec6
      @J_spec6 Рік тому +25

      BuT bAgS aRe FoR gRoCeRiEs

    • @finnjb3249
      @finnjb3249 Рік тому +6

      there's the argument that cars on air drive like shit because to have them low there's no pressure in them and even when they're all the way up they don't drive great. however stanced cars will also drive like shit

    • @zrkmedia7417
      @zrkmedia7417 Рік тому +2

      @@finnjb3249 yeah that can be true, I’m at around 45-50 psi driving at a “low” height. It will never be as good as coils but for its use it’s perfect for me.

    • @davidhunt9692
      @davidhunt9692 Рік тому +2

      @@finnjb3249 bro wtf are you talking about. Lower psi= softer more plush ride, more psi= harsher ride. This means air ride drives better when it's aired down a bit. You don't want pressure. Pressure means stiff, and stiff means feeling every bump in the road in your spinal chord. Air ride drives a lot better than coilovers and thousands of times better than shitty coilovers. Good coilovers drive very nice, but bags are always better.
      IDK, i got out of the stanced german car game awhile ago. Now I'm into lifted toyotas and don't have nearly as many headaches as I used to.

    • @nottodayfedboi3536
      @nottodayfedboi3536 Рік тому +1

      Just not as good as coils, I love whipping around the canyons

  • @frankthetankricard
    @frankthetankricard Рік тому +556

    "If you build your car the right way it's not dangerous"
    The problem with this statement is if you remove aesthetic preferences from the equation then stancing a car is literally making it significantly more dangerous. It is no surprise that this style is popular with young people as opposed to a certain generation because I think the general trend is that most people grow up and realize the sheer stupidity of it.

    • @heyitsfranklynn168
      @heyitsfranklynn168 Рік тому +12

      Depends on how stanced it is. Balding tires are significantly more dangerous than a serious stanced out car. More dangerous than stock? Definitely. More dangerous than most mods? Nope.

    • @Bladeserpent
      @Bladeserpent Рік тому +29

      Doing research and choosing the right quality tires, suspension parts, and wheels is just the same and as important to making a reliable vehicle as performance parts. Having had (and still drive) three bagged stanced cars (which really is the "proper" way to build a stanced car), have all been used as daily drivers and gone on numerous road trips with tens of thousands of miles without a hiccup. This includes "excessive" camber at -8 degrees, 205's on 9.5 wide's, and a inch of suspension travel. They have been safe and drive more like a "normal" car than any track or "modified" car, even at triple digit speeds. Most just choose not to put in the time, effort, and most importantly, money to do it right. You wouldn't put a $200 turbo, $80 tires, or $300 coilover's on your car and expect it to last, be safe, or be remotely reliable would you? A way a person drives and quality of parts is much more concerning to me than being a mere stanced car.
      Do I think excessive camber in combination with driving slammed inches of the ground, especially without air suspension is dumb? Yes, and they definitely give stance a bad name; however, a couple of degrees of camber, wheels flushed to the fender, drivable height, and a reasonable driver is no less dangerous when done right. The cars G&G used for the roadtrip and the cars used in this video were cheaply done, excessive, and obviously owned by people who don't give a crap about their cars, themselves, or safety. Again, the driver and quality of parts matters significantly more than the car itself.

    • @ThatBlack7.5
      @ThatBlack7.5 Рік тому +7

      Personally im a young car enthusiast I have a 2018 gti which I see lots of gti stanced I think it's just kind of stupid and unpractical.
      Yea young people like doing dangerous stuff from the thrill of being young and basically bulletproof

    • @Roomsaver
      @Roomsaver Рік тому +1

      Same with the trend of quick releases in a car without a cage, bucket seats, harness, HANS, helmet

    • @AliasHSW
      @AliasHSW Рік тому +3

      A certain (boomer) generation use to cut the springs before they could or there is the market support for it. Now we are also the one passing judgment on stancers. Lol

  • @CJ2X
    @CJ2X Рік тому +185

    Gears & Gasoline: “So even if you don’t like stanced cars, at least you can understand why someone would stance their car.”
    Stance boy: “There’s really no actual answer why I stanced my car.”

  • @SirSpinalColumn
    @SirSpinalColumn Рік тому +355

    Why did you stance your car?
    "I need attention"

    • @bandwagon240
      @bandwagon240 Рік тому +13

      Only gets it from cops with it dragging its ass down the road.

    • @heyitsfranklynn168
      @heyitsfranklynn168 Рік тому +6

      Like every aesthetic mod? Lol

    • @ecstasy-xx4
      @ecstasy-xx4 Рік тому

      Sparks that's why

    • @jevonbigga6172
      @jevonbigga6172 Рік тому

      Yeah that literally it theres no other reason why they would do this🤣🤣🤣

    • @ecstasy-xx4
      @ecstasy-xx4 Рік тому

      @@jevonbigga6172 ofc there is.

  • @randomtapesbymaroof2686
    @randomtapesbymaroof2686 Рік тому +181

    This a roast of the stance community from their own mouths 😅 clever

    • @nephilim3090
      @nephilim3090 Рік тому +3

      I was just thinking they chose people that didn’t seem that hard into the “scene” I’ve been doing low car shot for years and gotten my wife and family into it maybe it’s the demographic of where they are located tho

    • @kemzdon8245
      @kemzdon8245 Рік тому +2

      Lol. Facts
      There’s two types of stance. Pre-tiktok and Post-tiktok (BC-AD)💀

    • @landonfolken03
      @landonfolken03 Рік тому +1

      Looks toxic at first, but there are good people in it.
      When you have to make sure people know that there are SOME good people...oof

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      cap

  • @_Suzuka_Joe
    @_Suzuka_Joe Рік тому +75

    stance- I want to make my car work less
    "its not dangerous if you build the car the right way" -also bacon fenders from his control arm coming loose

  • @alexa5a
    @alexa5a Рік тому +90

    They mentioned it not hurting the car community which isn’t exactly true. Where I’m from, government reformed regulations and police started cracking down on the car community specifically to go after the hellaflush scene and it screwed over the entire car scene for a while here.

    • @modelnutty6503
      @modelnutty6503 Рік тому +1

      yup, and I'm not going to argue my Datsun 620 long bed wasn't too dang low!
      a CHP was nice and explained everything why. I un-reversed the rear leafs and used 2" lowering blocks then 15" centerlines and 185/60 15's, still lowered but modified for handling, KYB's etc. it was so much more fun!

    • @matdddd
      @matdddd Рік тому +1

      Good point these guys are screwing the rest of us

    • @VirtuaDesign
      @VirtuaDesign Рік тому +7

      I very much doubt that the stance community has been responsible for the law enforcement crackdown on the car community. I've been watching videos from many different events from all over the world and participated in many events on my own country (Portugal) and the only thing stanced cars are making is attracting the attention of the authorities due to being clearly visually modified, leading them to gatherings where, unavoidably, some idiot will be doing donuts, crashing into parked cars or spectators, rolling coal, shooting flames or banging and popping their exhaust. Want to blame someone for that? Blame the street racing/drifting crowd that ruined it for all of us by dropping every cent they ever made under the hood and then not going to a certified drag strip/skid pad/track day because "that's expensive"... 🤔
      All my cars have been modified and will without an issue pass Tech Inspection annually while being in better shape than stock 2/3 year old cars. Granted, my cars have never been to the extreme of bumpers falling off/horizontal wheels stanced but still... 😅

    • @FG-418
      @FG-418 Рік тому +3

      @@VirtuaDesign No, here in Canada stanced car made the news. Our province introduced the new law in 2014 calling it by name : Hellaflush. The crackdown was a direct reaction to the stance cars.
      And it hurt every modded car owner as they made the law extremely broad and powerful, essentially cracking down on ANY lowering. A15mm spring drop with OEM spec alignment is illegal, and since then Police can, and do, send you to a mechanical inspection, that you will fail and remove the car from the road unless you swap back to OEM. Since a year or two, as most really slammed cars are out of the road they have been relaxing,
      ( Not saying street racing is not an issue, but here that wasn't much an issue, but I foresee it becoming one again as growing cities are pressuring track owners to close shop because of the noise. )

    • @jakelikeslowcars
      @jakelikeslowcars Рік тому +5

      you see far more big police crackdowns on intersection takeovers and pop up meets where people are drifting than on stance cars lol

  • @Praxicaeon
    @Praxicaeon Рік тому +26

    My thought on stance has always been; "why don't you just put it on bags and slam it when it's parked?"
    I get you don't get the crazy camber but some of that is there and you still get functionality.

    • @Bagged_E46_Widebody
      @Bagged_E46_Widebody Рік тому +3

      I’m currently building a stance E46 Sedan on bags and so far i had no issues so I agree. I like static builds but I’d never do it to my car just because i don’t wanna ruin it

    • @Bagged_E46_Widebody
      @Bagged_E46_Widebody Рік тому +1

      I’m currently building a stance E46 Sedan on bags and so far i had no issues so I agree. I like static builds but I’d never do it to my car just because i don’t wanna ruin it

    • @terra6084
      @terra6084 Рік тому

      the excessive camber is what makes it look disgusting, bags look great imo

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      its called money

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree Рік тому +156

    I'm more of a "form follows function" kind of guy. So obviously, stance life isn't for me. But for a lot of guys, it can be a gateway into the automotive community. After they get the stance stuff out of their system, we can help them build something more enjoyable.

    • @defmiino
      @defmiino Рік тому +6

      imagine stancing a car then buying another car for the track. OMG that would be insane

    • @alphaenterprise2232
      @alphaenterprise2232 Рік тому +21

      @@defmiino I think its called "growing up"

    • @CUDAaar
      @CUDAaar Рік тому

      Even if you did value form over function... this still looks like shit

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree Рік тому +13

      @@defmiino - Yep, and after you have a properly modded car, that stance car will go up for sale. Happens every time.

    • @snakerb
      @snakerb Рік тому +2

      @@michaelblacktree and they’ll expect you to pay top dollar for their stance cars because they know what they’ve got….

  • @sohchx
    @sohchx Рік тому +13

    The answers are simple. Clout, E-fame, Insta-fame, attention, peer approval, Likes, and Followers. The majority of these guys aren't even into cars at all, just looking for somewhere to fit in or acceptance. Purposely making your car worse just so it looks different is something that kids that don't get attention do. They are desperate for attention and approval from anyone and everyone, even if it's negative attention, because at least people are talking about them and acknowledging that they exist.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      and it looks amazing? and im into cars completely yet i love stance, and the looks of the car matter most

  • @Sebastian-rm9th
    @Sebastian-rm9th Рік тому +51

    One thing i have learnt from when i got my first car to now, is i enjoy the comfort of a stock/ lightly modified car more then sitting in a half gutted bucket seat harnessed track car with fumes entering the cabin giving me cancer. Maybe it comes with age, all i know is I've grown out of it

  • @dylanpage4106
    @dylanpage4106 Рік тому +27

    “If it were manual I’d be at a track swinging my car”. Yeah ok

    • @KINGVONFRM063
      @KINGVONFRM063 Рік тому +3

      Why he dind buy a manual then?

    • @ahmadtajy7178
      @ahmadtajy7178 Рік тому

      ​@@KINGVONFRM063he said he got a good deal on that car

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      i swing my car and im stanced and auto soooo

  • @ForTehNguyen
    @ForTehNguyen Рік тому +40

    Remember the days when people made fun of you for having bad camber after lowering your car?

    • @Roomsaver
      @Roomsaver Рік тому +6

      Now it’s a feature lmao

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      im glad thats over with

  • @jasonyoung6420
    @jasonyoung6420 Рік тому +16

    Mini-trucks were a thing when I was younger, people lowered them, patched & smoothed out the handles & latches & installed poppers/actuators, massive sound systems in the bed with a fiberglass tonneau cover to waterproof it, metallic flaked paint in loud colors etc. I wasn't into that scene, but when they were done right I could appreciate the effort that went into them. Stance is the new mini-truck to me; the modifications make it a worse vehicle, but that's not the goal, the goal is to have a show piece. I'm not into stance either though, so the way I look at it may be erroneous.

  • @OfWhatsToCome
    @OfWhatsToCome Рік тому +64

    A good video to show me exactly what I already understood and thought of the stance community.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      that it looks sick and is amazing

  • @zachp1604
    @zachp1604 Рік тому +10

    When I was in highschool in the early 2000s. Some kids would wear these jeans that were covered in chains. Some were brightly colored on top of that. You would hear them rattling down the hall way. All of those kids claimed they loved the style, in reality they loved the attention. Negative or positive, attention was attention. That is what stance reminds me of.

    • @Klw376
      @Klw376 Рік тому +2

      You could say the same thing for anyone who puts their ride in a car show….attention. No harm

    • @zachp1604
      @zachp1604 Рік тому

      @@Klw376 I'm not trying to be negative, or say it causes harm. It's just what it reminds me of.

  • @mouaem1
    @mouaem1 Рік тому +146

    I mainly aim towards performance and I'm all for being different but to a certain point. Most examples of "stance" are done very poorly. There are many cars I would choose not to stance but if I was to do it it'd be something like a Lexus ls430 VIP style and definitely on bags because breaking stuff is no fun.

  • @skelator6740
    @skelator6740 Рік тому +3

    This video explained perfectly why stance cars are such a joke

  • @ChicaneMedia
    @ChicaneMedia Рік тому +8

    When you hear stance, I think most people picture super cambered out cars that aren't reliable let alone have any functionality. I personally love stance because of how it look. I feel its reasonable to have a couple degrees of camber, probably 4 degrees at most give or take for regular use. It really just depends on your situation; lets say you want a track setup, maybe a drift build, or just something to look pretty. I'm all for it but not to an extreme where your car breaks every time you drive it

  • @XenonG
    @XenonG Рік тому +13

    Not unsafe if done right? Wtf? These people are on purpose minimising contact area, while bottoming out their suspension and reduced travel. Great idea, and yes some motorsport cars do have negative camber to improve grip but only because to either account for tire warp during HIGH SPEED CORNERS and/or rebalancing the car's grip front & rear.

    • @heyitsfranklynn168
      @heyitsfranklynn168 Рік тому +1

      Youre still totally missing the point

    • @thegabe6389
      @thegabe6389 Рік тому +2

      Wow it’s almost like… there parts that correct the suspension geometry so none of that happens 😱

    • @XenonG
      @XenonG Рік тому +1

      @@thegabe6389 Is still bottomed out, and massive negative camber bruh

    • @thegabe6389
      @thegabe6389 Рік тому +2

      @@XenonG again u can buy suspension parts that will stop you from bottoming out

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      its not unsafe and i daily drive mine

  • @davidjames8505
    @davidjames8505 Рік тому +94

    It screams financially irresponsible and stupidy, especially when it's their only car lol I would never hire someone if they rolled up in a pos like that

    • @heyitsfranklynn168
      @heyitsfranklynn168 Рік тому +10

      Dude literally every car is a money pit

    • @beautifulbeaner
      @beautifulbeaner Рік тому +6

      @@James-po2sv dude literally yes, unless you drive an old accord your going to spend money

    • @heyitsfranklynn168
      @heyitsfranklynn168 Рік тому +1

      @@James-po2sv correction- every PROJECT car. Yeah it sure is cheap to run old jdm cars stock but its also about as boring as your taste in cars is. "tImE tO gRoW uP aNd DrIvE sToCk CoMpAnY FoRdS tO pAy BiLlS." Maybe get a job where you can afford to have some fun, boomer.

    • @beautifulbeaner
      @beautifulbeaner Рік тому

      @@James-po2sv and let me guess they where all stock or “OEM+” yeah obviously driving a stock car won’t be expensive, now lest compare a stock S-Chassis to a built SR20 240sx drift car and see if it’s still reliable, no it’s not it’s common sense who I’m taking about

    • @JohanSalvattore
      @JohanSalvattore Рік тому +3

      @@beautifulbeaner no it isn’t. You can build a car to make it perform better, look better, all while making it reliable. If your car is a money pit is simply because it’s built poorly. Period

  • @jordanbowes5707
    @jordanbowes5707 Рік тому +20

    I was cringing at all of this except one part. I was laughing out loud at all the damage.

  • @lakai958
    @lakai958 Рік тому +34

    it's the little things though that bother me with a lot of stance cars. It's not the ridiculous camber or unusable ride height, but the mounting splitter support rods to non-structural parts of your bumper, or other cobbled together bits (like the Bens Acura & VW from the road trip), which makes up a LOT of what I tend to see in the wild. however, when there's care and thought put into a stance build, I can respect and appreciate it.

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree Рік тому +11

      Yeah, I get "my first mod" vibes from a lot of stance cars.

    • @lakai958
      @lakai958 Рік тому +1

      @michael blacktree that's exactly what i mean

  • @abdullahasiri9304
    @abdullahasiri9304 Рік тому +15

    In my opinion, little camber and little bit lower won’t hurt but -9 cambered out slammed Scraping every where type of builds that is too much. The point is to do a unique build that look attractive while maintaining the functionality of the car because trust me I don’t want to take 40 minutes just to get out of my drive way no I don’t have the patience for that and I’m destroying my car in the process big no. Most of these cars will end up in the junk yard unless if they do it right. However, we must respect everybody’s builds no matter what we think of it. They are their cars and they spending their money on them in the end of the day.

    • @kemzdon8245
      @kemzdon8245 Рік тому

      This has always been view, you wrote it better than I ever would have .🙌🏾

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      look attractive over function bruh

  • @ImBarryScottCSS
    @ImBarryScottCSS Рік тому +6

    "I've been doing this since I was 16, and I'm 18 now".
    Don't know why but this absolutely crippled me 😂

  • @IPM71
    @IPM71 Рік тому +6

    Being someone all about efficiency and performance, that was so painful to watch. To each his own, I know, but there are limits...

    • @NotTxiST
      @NotTxiST Рік тому +2

      You have a FoRS as a profile pic. Obviously you care about neither. 😄

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      ur corny if u dont care about the looks

  • @ineedcash09
    @ineedcash09 Рік тому +3

    It's pretty bad thing for you guys to "review". You have big race car enthusiasts base, so It's just common sense - lot's of dudes and gals will "hate" stance whatsoever. I love watching your videos and what you do with your cars, but I can't cringe enough about your opinions about stance culture.

  • @lyyre_mzr
    @lyyre_mzr Рік тому +7

    These guys didn’t seem to have much of a reason outside of social media.
    For me personally, a slow cheap car is A-OK to ruin. Slam it. Having to actively drive, having to pay attention to the road for debris and potholes is fun in it’s own way. Similar to when I ride my motorcycle.
    Plus imo they look nice when parked and in motion on a nice road.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      the reason i personally have is that it looks way too good

  • @denlimwolf
    @denlimwolf Рік тому +2

    This video encapsulates why the stance community gets so much hate. There are no positive outcomes to stance, unless you're chasing clout. Other than that, you're eating through tires, wheels, fenders, suspension components, etc.
    Thanks for the chuckle, @gearsandgasoline.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      all for the looks, and id do it again a million times

  • @TheRyansLion
    @TheRyansLion Рік тому +70

    The only “stance” I like is 2-3° of track stance

    • @duanebailey6253
      @duanebailey6253 Рік тому

      That's what an idiot kid say and said dam I can do that. Goes home and maxed out his camber to match the look.

  • @joeeevTV
    @joeeevTV Рік тому +2

    My only problem with stance is the amount of traffic it causes. Say no to stance.

  • @roscoes-wetsuit1
    @roscoes-wetsuit1 Рік тому +4

    7:53 "It's not really ruining anything"
    Your fenders would disagree lmao

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      fenders barely even ruined

  • @jacksonbarinowski3966
    @jacksonbarinowski3966 Рік тому +1

    "Yeah, I've sheared off the bottom of my oil pan because of stance."
    "You gonna do anything about it?"
    "No."

  • @john.s1962
    @john.s1962 Рік тому +5

    It's still stupid, -20 degrees literally allows you to use less than 10% of the tire, less grip on public roads, I don't need to say why it's dangerous. Drifting use a lot of camber because they have extreme angle kits, etc, it all works together, that crap is just dangrous. Got nothing against stance, extreme camber annoys me though.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      bro most people do NOT do -20 bro thats next level

  • @georgallasj
    @georgallasj Рік тому +11

    I couldn’t stop shaking my head my entire video.

  • @nah3193
    @nah3193 Рік тому +5

    There is a middle ground. You can still lower your car and run up to 3 degrees of camber without completely grinding your car subframe on the pavement... Set it up so you have 3-4 inches of functional clearance and then use your lip and sideskirts to make it look even lower.

    • @colbyentzminger217
      @colbyentzminger217 Рік тому +1

      That's my build. It's certainly preferred.

    • @ahmadtajy7178
      @ahmadtajy7178 Рік тому

      Yeah there's kits that seem designed just for that kind of build. Like BN Sports stuff

  • @dylanpage4106
    @dylanpage4106 Рік тому +4

    Can’t wait till the stance guys wake up this afternoon, take a bong rip, and start commenting 😂

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      im commenting rn except ive nevver drank or smoked or done any drugs soooo

  • @demonevox8893
    @demonevox8893 Рік тому +4

    That focus has the splitter rods in the bumper 😂

    • @preston4837
      @preston4837 Рік тому

      They couldn't find a car that sits fender to lip all around either

  • @bhcamaro2002
    @bhcamaro2002 Рік тому +2

    "Curbed all my wheels" and what percent tint is on all the windows 🤔🤦‍♂️

  • @acidmike3535
    @acidmike3535 Рік тому +3

    Stance cars are all about seeking attention and getting noticed but all the owners never admit it they give the bullshit excuse of they are being unique

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      they are being unique, and it looks amazing

  • @richmcdowell
    @richmcdowell Рік тому +3

    Takes me back to a Chrysler dealership I worked at a few years ago. Folks with grand Cherokees with air suspension bitched their tires wore prematurely. They had their jeeps in "park mode" which lowered the truck and cambered out all 4 tires. I'd replace the tires and align the truck only to see them leave cambered out again. The detailers there belonged to a club with bagged CR-Vs and there wasn't a day I wasn't asked to diagnose a blown bald tire or cracked wheel.

  • @MrAudi220
    @MrAudi220 Рік тому +5

    My experience the older i get(36now) i prefer more tire(less stretch) less camber and a drivable ride hight, now i get more enjoyment out of a good handeling car and a suspension that can do what it is designed for, things i look for now is are my lower control arms straight, do i need a roll center adjustment kit, added caster in the front, that kind of stuff.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      stop getting older then

    • @MrAudi220
      @MrAudi220 28 днів тому

      @@govauu Well i stopped getting older i'm reversing my age but i grew wiser and matured tho.

    • @govauu
      @govauu 27 днів тому

      @@MrAudi220 u clearly didnt get wiser if u think stance is bad now

  • @zachoryfitzgerald8259
    @zachoryfitzgerald8259 Рік тому +2

    I own a stanced 16 FOST. I wanted it as low as it could possibly be while still being functional enough to daily. I had to camber the rear wheels -4.5 degrees so the tires wouldn't contact the fender.

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  • @seagullsays5831
    @seagullsays5831 Рік тому +3

    Clout clowns really are just the most obnoxious people to listen to lmao.

  • @Slowcarfastbeans
    @Slowcarfastbeans Рік тому +2

    It used to be difficult to see who were the IQ 20’s. This is actually a blessing incognito.

  • @jeffsworldd
    @jeffsworldd Рік тому +3

    5.0 john on the big screen goin crazy

  • @kimcheefists
    @kimcheefists Рік тому +4

    Another problem I have with stance cars (among many others) is it makes enthusiast cars that much more rare in the future. The people that stance these sought after cars now, ruin them for potential future buyers driving up the prices for enthusiast cars…

    • @thegabe6389
      @thegabe6389 Рік тому +4

      You can literally say this for any other car community lol

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur Рік тому +3

      @@thegabe6389 yeah, these guys are just bs.
      Its not like enthusiast cars will cease to exist LOL

    • @Spurs228
      @Spurs228 Рік тому +1

      This is such a silly take

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      ruin them my ass we make them look 100x better

  • @kobet7341
    @kobet7341 Рік тому +4

    “Nice stance car” is an oxymoron

  • @petkokrushev3840
    @petkokrushev3840 Рік тому +2

    Younger generation are into stance, because it is the cheapest "mod culture" to enter, you literally buy any car and cut the springs, throw some ridiculous camber and pretty much that's it

  • @bella_testastretta
    @bella_testastretta Рік тому +11

    I had a stanced frs from 2014~2017 (the whole rocket bunny + rotiform combo). It was the most fun / expensive hobby I had and the one hobby that I enjoyed the most. Literally got compliments on the car once a day whether at a parking lot or stop signs/lights. I think I liked it mostly because of the way it looked but the pain of daily driving the car in Los Angeles was just painful. Broke the front bumper 6 times in 3 years, not to mention all the other problems and inconvenience that came with owning a lowered car. Looking back at it now that I'm 30 and no longer in to cars (have a stage 1 m235i, but mostly riding my motorcycle now) I think stance was just my way of trying to get attention from people to fulfill my need for the lack of attention that I got from my parents while I was growing up. Technically it was an expensive therapy for me lol.

  • @colin55594
    @colin55594 Рік тому +84

    Can't imagine spending that much money on breaking my car. Especially when you can buy some amazing coilovers for the same price.

    • @germaineliew2012
      @germaineliew2012 Рік тому +1

      Engineers of every car company spent a lot of resources making a car drive, ride safe and comfortably.
      And then we have kids that ruin all of that using cheap bolt ons from ebay.

    • @tehllama42
      @tehllama42 Рік тому

      @@germaineliew2012 Not even that - if you want it to be unique and rad, there are third party engineers who let you start expanding capability in one area at the expense of some of that very safe set of engineering targets, which can add visual bling and performance in key areas... instead it's a performance downgrade to make it visually even more different

  • @Swermie
    @Swermie Рік тому +7

    Ya got enough black ice trees in that mustang?

  • @bryangibson6211
    @bryangibson6211 Рік тому +1

    I don’t like the way it looks personally, but it’s not the fact that they are destroying their cars, it’s the broken hearts, “send help” and “I wana be unique” thing that’s annoying. It’s for the attention and personally I give my attention to people who are interesting, not people who chop up their suspension

  • @textmachine09
    @textmachine09 Рік тому +3

    I remember making a sarcastic complement of a stance post in facebook. And there's a guy who got so mad at my comment he literally searched my facebook account to get back at me. So i did the same and saw he has a stanced purple honda civic fd and called it the barney ricer. He got even more mad and called his boyfriends to help him.

  • @LegendaryGarageYT
    @LegendaryGarageYT Рік тому +1

    People only stance their cars because it’s the cheapest way to make beat up cars look decent in pictures without anyone questioning performance because everyone assumes they aren’t meant to be going fast

  • @gryphon123456
    @gryphon123456 Рік тому +3

    It’s a “look at me” thing which is fine for kids. But I just hate what it does to the car. It tells me they’re more people who want to be noticed and don’t know all that much about driving dynamics.

  • @acidmike3535
    @acidmike3535 Рік тому +2

    The Asian guy sounds like he's more into to takeovers especially when he kept saying swing that's shit I've only heard from takeovers

  • @lachiemcdonald7283
    @lachiemcdonald7283 Рік тому +3

    “It’s not dangerous if it’s done right” he says whilst his fender literally eats away his tyre which already has serious wear on one side.

  • @miatalife94
    @miatalife94 Рік тому +7

    I used to think it was cool in highschool then I did my first autocross and my cars have never been that low since haha

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      L autocross for changing you

  • @skirmishcustoms2595
    @skirmishcustoms2595 Рік тому +2

    When I first got into cars I really liked stance and thought a lot of cars even looked better stanced, as I've matured as an enthusiast I don't like it much anymore. That being said I don't think stance cars deserve hate, you don't need a logical explanation for why you like a stance car. You should be allowed to do what you want with your car. Spending thousands on a car is crazy already and seems dumb to the average person. Stance is just another level.

  • @YeffRamos
    @YeffRamos Рік тому +8

    I feel like stanced cars are just dominating most of the community! And that sucks, I been looking for a car club/group that are more on the "tuner" side of things and we can take road trips and all, but it seems impossible in NY. Everybody just stance their cars, and build them to park =/

    • @mrs_radrod
      @mrs_radrod Рік тому +3

      New York has some really good roads though? There isn’t anyone finding backroads and doing touge runs?

    • @YeffRamos
      @YeffRamos Рік тому

      @Christian Gotsch not publicly, that I know of. There's some nice back roads I go up to, pretty close by. Getting a crew together to mess around and hang out would be amazing. I used to go to meets to meet people but its mostly slammed cars lol 😆 maybe I'm doing it wrong

    • @mrs_radrod
      @mrs_radrod Рік тому +3

      @@YeffRamos I doubt these types of groups are public. Sometimes it just takes you inviting people out. From my experience and talking to others, you may find a group of 10-20 people will only net 1-2 who want to go out every week for a cruise. Honestly I feel like if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. I've found more cruising groups by starting/ being a part of groups than asking around to find a group.

    • @sully1626
      @sully1626 Рік тому

      @@mrs_radrod I feel like most of those groups also tend to be an older crowd that you won't typically find sitting around in parking lots or at "car meets"

  • @whiskeytomcat
    @whiskeytomcat Рік тому +8

    Stance....the face tattoo of car culture.

  • @lumpv3rmin364
    @lumpv3rmin364 Рік тому +3

    i low key love the look bc i respect it

  • @natepotter1709
    @natepotter1709 Рік тому +41

    because i like breaking my tailbone on a speedbump on a frame dragging civic at like 55 mph and turn my front mount radiator into a sidewalk mounted radiator at full speed

    • @govauu
      @govauu 28 днів тому

      this doesnt happen

    • @natepotter1709
      @natepotter1709 28 днів тому

      i was kidding if that wasnt obvious enough lmao

  • @rob0079
    @rob0079 Рік тому +8

    Stance is the TidePod Challenge of the car enthusiast community

  • @bottomdennis7434
    @bottomdennis7434 Рік тому +4

    It seems like you've picked bad examples, very young guys who just started in car culture, we all had to learn a lot.
    Personally, I have been driving stanced cars for about 12 years now. Daily them and even did a lot of rodtrips. (About 850k km or 530k miles in total) It started for the looks, continued to keep me from speeding, and after some years, I really loved figuring out how to slam my car to the ground without having all the negative effects or breaking car parts every second. Make them good driver cars while being very close to the ground. There is nothing more peaceful to me than driving my low on the most beautiful roads I can find.. stance isn't all about cloud chasing or speed, it's more a relaxed subculture who enjoys the looks more than the performance.
    And honestly, driving your racecar everyday isn't always fun or practical too

  • @badgaby72
    @badgaby72 Рік тому +2

    They only stance/slam they for social media and to be "different"

  • @chrstopher10
    @chrstopher10 Рік тому +44

    You guys should do squatted truck owners next it would be interesting to see what’s the hype around it

    • @cigarsgunsanddiesel8032
      @cigarsgunsanddiesel8032 Рік тому +2

      YES!!!

    • @Kamisama1738
      @Kamisama1738 Рік тому +28

      Inbreeding

    • @modelnutty6503
      @modelnutty6503 Рік тому +2

      yup, that rear squat fad sure is goofy.. leaf spring lowering blocks cost a lot less than decent drop spindles for the front to match, lots easier to install too!
      (yee-haw!)

    • @drivingpsyche
      @drivingpsyche Рік тому +1

      At least they have correct wheel alignment. ;)

    • @androiduberalles
      @androiduberalles Рік тому +1

      WhistlinDiesel will line up to crush them all

  • @takafumiarisawa70
    @takafumiarisawa70 Рік тому +1

    For me, they're basically the Furries of motorsports. I don't particularly mind em', at the very least some are fun to look at, most can't quite explain how they got into the fandom, good or bad if there's attention to be garnered they want it, they tend to have difficulties while moving around, they value uniqueness but they'll fall into tropes more often than not, funny smells, expensive hobby when you get to the deep end...

    • @siddheshpillai3807
      @siddheshpillai3807 Рік тому +1

      Except this is even worse than furries

    • @BuddyTheWolfYT
      @BuddyTheWolfYT 6 місяців тому

      Most of us are very mechanically inclined and wouldn't do something like this that destroys our car.

  • @thebatlwgn
    @thebatlwgn Рік тому +4

    My car is useless and I dont know why I do this. - This video summarized haha.

  • @M3fahrer
    @M3fahrer Рік тому +1

    Wasn’t going to watch this one until I saw it was a Luke video. Always watch the Luke videos.

  • @Aquarius2937
    @Aquarius2937 Рік тому +19

    Stance cars are done by young people who are low on funds and can't afford to properly modify the car and have no idea the damage that these modifications do. Every modifier is either currently at the point, or has been at that point in their car ownership. As much as I wince when I see a car like this, it's no different than other fads that have swept over car culture in the past.

    • @zdream720
      @zdream720 Рік тому +4

      yeah bro those shots at the indoor auto show of the R8, Aventador, 350z with the mirror-finished wheels and full custom wraps look so cheap and underfunded... smh lol

    • @zdream720
      @zdream720 Рік тому +1

      strong opinions that don't make sense are given in the comments of youtube videos by people who are low on critical thinking and social acceptance, who can't afford to take the time to think before they say things. Every dumbass is either currently at this point or has been at one point. As much as I wince when I read these comments, it's no different than facebook.

  • @gopro5344
    @gopro5344 Рік тому +1

    "why did I stance my car?" - "For the same reason I put on reflective window tint and stickers on my headlights"

  • @keeganfaulkner1240
    @keeganfaulkner1240 Рік тому +8

    Mad props to the golf kid. He seems to understand that you don’t have to own a “cool” car to have fun with it. It’s not about having the best wheels and dumping a ton of money into it, it’s about enjoying your ride how you want it

  • @blingblingmydiesel19
    @blingblingmydiesel19 Рік тому +2

    The white mk5 golf is what a lot of cars looked like before bodykits really took off in the 2000's here in the uk. As for the exsessive camber I'll never under stand it

  • @blazedxjan
    @blazedxjan Рік тому +5

    I like how they try to justify the stance by down playing the damage being caused lol

    • @Brandonr757sGaming
      @Brandonr757sGaming Рік тому

      I don't even see anything that significant at all other than the stang's fenders

  • @Colyers
    @Colyers Рік тому +2

    I don't hate stance cars, just their owners.

  • @speedyspeedboiii
    @speedyspeedboiii Рік тому +9

    Lmao Ryan is still a kid, he's definitely going to outgrow this phase

  • @josezamora9450
    @josezamora9450 Рік тому +1

    Once I seen the bumper mounted “splitter” I quit the video 😂

  • @richardcho4844
    @richardcho4844 Рік тому +3

    the kid with the golf is the prime example of "dirt nasty low" mentailty XD

  • @Tofu_Slayer
    @Tofu_Slayer Рік тому +1

    A stance car broke down on a two lane bridge setting me back two hours to sonoma raceway once.

  • @gekii.
    @gekii. Рік тому +4

    If your mod is damaging your car, you're not doing it right

  • @BROWARDTRILL
    @BROWARDTRILL Рік тому +2

    Stance cars were long before social media kid.

  • @taridean
    @taridean Рік тому +52

    I think some stanced cars look so cool visually, but it would drive me nuts owning and maintaining one. I have done minor mods to my Lexus IS SportCross where it does both look good visually and handles better than stock, but is still practical and comfortable to drive. Plus I don't have to keep shelling out money tinkering with it replacing damaged parts like the stance guys have to keep doing.

  • @fnxl11
    @fnxl11 Рік тому +1

    03:59 "...scrapes on the gas tank, but that's about it" - those are the kind of brains that are behind stanced cars.
    Yes it hurts the car community.
    And no, real car people will never understand why people do it.

  • @delphipascal
    @delphipascal Рік тому +4

    How the fuck do you see out that mustang?

  • @johnfranklin685
    @johnfranklin685 4 місяці тому +1

    Stanciing your car is equivalent to wearing your pants below your butt. Vanity Insanity.

  • @БлогФедора
    @БлогФедора Рік тому +3

    Good work Luke, getting better and better👍

  • @joshcombe440
    @joshcombe440 Рік тому +2

    No, your are hurting somebody. The person behind you that just ran over the parts falling off your car. 😂

  • @codermyers
    @codermyers Рік тому +1

    Oof, the Mustang guy basically admits that the car is much worse to drive and the mod is basically a play for attention. If it's coming down to this or mapping backfires into the fuel maps for the younger folks, what have we done to the car culture??

  • @augustopinochet6899
    @augustopinochet6899 Рік тому +27

    "We're not hurting anyone"
    "Stancing my car has absolutely done permanent damage to my car"
    Yeah, because trashing cars is definitely beneficial to maintaining a healthy used car market for young enthusiasts in the future

    • @zappy7393
      @zappy7393 Рік тому +4

      I mean, an argument to that is that you don't keep your girlfriend warm for the next guy...just like you shouldn't keep your car warm for the next owner...
      I get your point though.

    • @beautifulbeaner
      @beautifulbeaner Рік тому

      "We're not hurting anyone"
      "DRIFTING my car has absolutely done permanent
      damage to my car"
      Yeah, because trashing cars is definitely beneficial
      to maintaining a healthy used car market for young
      enthusiasts in the future” oh how fast your argument falls apart when you change a single word, building a car just to go fast just for it to explode or drifting it and causing long term damage or even completely totaling the car definitely from drifting are no different from stance, if your a boomer worried about the “healthy used car market for young
      enthusiasts in the future” a drift car thats been engine swapped 4 times and reshelled twice usually isn’t very desirable in the used car market, neither is a single modified car, by your shitty argument keep all cars stock and be a boring lifeless loser

    • @augustopinochet6899
      @augustopinochet6899 Рік тому +2

      @@beautifulbeaner Track and drift cars at least make actual contact with the pavement, and aren't damaged by the act of driving itself.
      At the very least, run bags so you aren't fucking your car up, or don't run >5°

    • @beautifulbeaner
      @beautifulbeaner Рік тому

      @@augustopinochet6899 “and aren’t damaged by driving itself” oh yes they are, especially drift cars, bottoming out constantly on a low drift car WILL damage it, and so will a majority of track cars since they have to be low for a good center of gravity, plus it doesn’t even matter, your original comment was about “tHE MaRKeT FOr YOuNG EntHuESiAsTS IN THe FuTuRe” plus who mentioned bags everything applied about being low still applies with bags you don’t magically have a 3 foot ride height like a truck with bags you still are low aired up, and lastly 5 degrees of camber is nothing, that’s the average for most track cars and most drift cars have up to 8 degrees, you are just a whiny little misinformed baby.

    • @augustopinochet6899
      @augustopinochet6899 Рік тому +1

      @@beautifulbeaner I wrote >5°, or greater than 5°, meaning don't run double digit, or otherwise excessive camber, choosing 5 as a ballpark.
      Also stance isn't equivalent to drifting or track. While they are still low, they are at the very least still drivable on public roads, and are mostly driven at the track.
      There is a difference between driving a car hard, and straight up abuse
      If you're building a show car, at least install bags so the car doesn't scrape due to driving to a show with a 1/4" of ground clearence

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 Рік тому +1

    I hate anything cambered or stretch tires whether it’s static or bagged I love a good squared stance

  • @Vge21x
    @Vge21x Рік тому +7

    Good for them. Unsurprisingly, all the cars look atrocious and the whole thing makes me feel much better about my car still being stock.