Is Firefox Dying!? Mozilla, We Need To Talk...
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Mozilla Firefox is losing market share every year. Recent layoffs are worsening their public image and overall trust in the company to remain sustainable. This video covers their Google deal, the future of Mozilla, as well as a recap of their recent events related to the layoffs of their Dev Tools team, threat management, and more.
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I just wanted to chime to, first of all, thank you for such a fair and informative presentation of this important issue. I'm commenting, also, to (hopefully) help "the algorithm" gods smile upon you.
I agree with all you presented. And it breaks my heart too.
Google paying Firefox a lot of money to be the default search engine is a great deal for Firefox, since it is so easy to switch to a more private search engine.
Ditch Pateron for SCRIBESTAR + ENTROPY asap
Imo we need firefox to stay strong, as every other big browser is chromium based and it can't be a good thing
i was thinking the exact same thing man... sad days...
Monopolies are never good thing for consumers/users. But no matter how many people will tell minions that google chrome is spying on them they are using it anyway.
Its heading towards dead end, its turned into ANOTHER anti freedom/anti merit/anti western left wing political activist corporation
Why it can't be a good thing? There will be concurrency anyway, chromium will just be the base
Im in the boat where i literally camt use an alternative to Firefox from any major company because it's all Chromium and I hate Chromium
I have been using Firefox every since Netscape died and I will still keep using Firefox until it is dead
Same, using Firefox until it’s dead!
Yup Excatly
Paul - Check out LibreWOLF browser, its firefox without bloat and with actual privacy
Then a maintainer arises. A true hero. FirefoxX ressurected
Yeah!
it's sadder to see that if Mozilla dies, then Tor browser will be in a very dangerous place too
Maybe Tor needs to reconsider Firefox with these security changes and move to another browser.
@@danstinson7507 Chromium 😭😱?
or ... they could just modify another browser the way they do it with firefox atm.
Tor Browser without firefox is really not that big of a deal to accomplish.
They would probably switch to Chromium
If they changed to chromium the fingerprint would be more common to be honest, they might avoid it ti distance themselves from Google.
I will keep using Firefox as long it is there. Sorry Henry.
Why sorry? I’m not discouraging using them if it works for you. I hope you continue to have that option in the future as the more browsers we have the better
If you think hardening firefox is difficult then use ghacks form github.
It would be very useful for everyone if you made a video about it.
iS fIrEfoX DyInG???
I'm NoT DiScOuRaGiNg UsInG ThEm
@@DenerWitt you're an idiot
@Marco ?
Chrome and chromium are taking over everything... we need a new player ASAP!
chromium is open-source it can't take over anything. Yes major chromium-based browsers are bad, edge, Opera, etc But some of the smaller ones are really good. Brave and Vivaldi specifically.
Still Opensource though. Anyone can carve another fork out, focused on privacy, like maybe Brave.
@@Zero-pe3iq There's a big difference between open-source and open-source + *free.*
Internet Explorer: You called?
@@Zero-pe3iq Vivaldi is not FOSS
I'd hate to see Firefox die (same with Thunderbird), but when a Microsoft browser is beating you, you are screwed.
Well, it is hard to compete with a browser that was made into a critical piece of the Windows 10 OS. Edge doesn't have many of the problems of Internet Explorer that drove users away, so it makes sense that Edge will have naturally good market share.
Plus they just started pushing Edge to 7 and 8.1 users a few months ago via an update.
Technically Edge is Chrome, so ya really getting kicked by Google twice.
@@ebattleon it's Chromium, not Chrome. That's open source and you don't have to use any Google code inside of it.
@@NottJoeyOfficial "The Chromium projects include Chromium and Chromium OS, the open-source projects behind the Google Chrome browser and Google Chrome OS, respectively. This site houses the documentation and code related to the Chromium projects and is intended for developers interested in learning about and contributing to the open-source projects."
www.chromium.org/
Making money is important for mozilla to survive.
Fucking charge some fee for yearly subscription
@________ i think its all just speculation maybe they are teasing us to use their VPN by spoiling browser experience
@Unchained Chimp ok so this going in their favour rather than ours for god sakes these companies and their fucking activities
@Unchained Chimp their vpn move made me think they are not earning from firefox cuz chrome is already captured the market or something
im using older versions of firefox now so fuck em all
@@chhavimanichoubey9437 no one will fucking do that when ever other browser is free
Firefox is still the least of all major evil browsers out there. Plus, Firefox/Gecko is among the remaining two browser engines that stand against Google’s total Chromium monopoly of the web.
Firefox also has Containers, which are simply awesome and no other browser appears to have anything like them.
Those three points keep Firefox solid as my favorite browser, especially to support open web standards; no-brainer!
I’m a Firefox lover; Mozilla, they obviously have a little work to do with their company to keep it variable.
Aren't tabs in chromium containerized by default?
@@zekiz774 uhh no the containers hes talking about is keeping a site in a sandbox and cannot interract with other website for data collection
While chromium its not and theres no containers for it unless you install a plugin i think you get confused between dedicated process for tab and website containers or sandbox
@@ascensionfm1780 ah you mean that. I never use this feature. I only use Facebook container.
@@ascensionfm1780 In chromium, you can create multiple profiles with desktop widgets which are better than containers. Hope firefox implements it. You can do that it firefox but it is harder to change profiles while it is just one click in chromium browsers.
@@sorryi6685 does that include Brave?
Would be a shame if tor wouldn't be supported anymore
tragic would be a better word actually
if firefox stops being supported they will definately eventually switch tor over to something else
@@Jzombi301 there would be 2 main problems: 1. No Tor and 2. Chrome possible become a Monopol
No it won't be dead.
@@z0py Chromium is open source. Just use degooglified chromium.
Ever since I got my first computer, I've made it a habit to go through all the settings and preferences of every software program I use, and harden it in any way possible. At this point, I've come to generally assume that the default settings are never in my favor.
will continue to use Firefox to fight da Chromium monopoly. hope everyone else can do their part
This channel is about privacy by default not blind loyalty like sheep.
I will still use Firefox until it is dead! Sorry, man.
he isnt saying dont use it, he is just sad that its going down a slippery path. I wont stop using it either for containers are, far, far too useful. but it does sadden me to see the direction they are going.
eh, I'll still use Firefox.
Browser diversity is extremely important in maintaining an open internet. Google already has too much authority in setting web "standards" and with every browser being chromium based they'll be able to easily take actions that combat web blocking and tracking blocking technologies. My Networks professor told my class that Google was trying to influence the IEEE to change web standards a while back that would alter packet standards to make ads indistinguishable from web content. Let me rephrase that, they wanted to make the internet worse (It's not computationally free to mask ad content) for everyone just to benefit themselves.
Since that didn't work out for them, their new plan is to set web standards by controlling browser space. Ever had UA-cam not work well on firefox? Sure it's probably partially hardware-acceleration related, but some bugs are caused by Google changing some standard that will work with chromium browsers but not others as what IMO can only be described as an attack to get users to switch. If UA-cam cared about it's service, they'd make sure changes they make don't break on all web browsers (not just chromium ones) before pushing them.
I support Mozilla (financially) by using their VPN (despite it not yet having Linux support...), and I'm glad they are looking for new revenue streams as that's the only thing that will keep them competitive. Yes, the VPN is still buggy and not feature rich but I see it almost as an investment (not a recommendation unless you want to support Mozilla).
For me it's not a privacy/security question. Both those come with compromises, but are achievable on nearly any browser. What I want is to combat practices that hurt the internet (in speed, privacy, and openness). We already have a somewhat-dystopian scenario where to live with modern conveniences, we let companies and governments, that history shows we can't trust, know everything about us.
Regarding performance, I'm a little surprised. In my personal experiences Firefox (& Waterfox) have had better performance on my systems than chromium-based browsers. Every time I've used Firefox or Brave, Firefox is usually better performing and doesn't use as much system resources.
As a Waterfox user, I can definitely say that the ESR builds are always slower. The only score on browser benchmark tests that may be higher is the JavaScript performance, but other than that Waterfox and Firefox are not worth using for the sake of performance when it comes down to regular websurfing.
Same here, Firefox is much better IMO
Gday NG019 check out Librewolf
Plecebo and nastalgia
Exactly 🥺
I love your videos you are inspirational. I’m gonna make a UA-cam Channel with PSA ( Privacy, Security, Anonymity ), Ethical Hacking and How to Tutorials. Thank you.
Epic! Keep me updated with how it goes. The more creators we have covering this the better
Is there anything we can do to help mozilla?
Tell them to ditch Google if they want your continued loyalty.
@jocaguz18 No, it has already been confirmed that donations to the Mozilla Foundation do not reach the Foundation, but go to programmes in favour of diversity and inclusion. One of its developers said on Twitter that the best way to support them was by using Firefox and paying for the services they now do such as their VPN and so on...
They aren’t fully wrong. www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/a98gmi/donations_to_mozilla_foundation_are_not_used_for/ Donations do not go to the development of FF
@jocaguz18 programmes, not programmers
convince them to change back their logo and their popularity should raise
Can't more agree with Matthew Green. Firefox was the best browser among. While Chrome was trying to make a good browser, Mozilla did stop making FF better and just keep maintained, then sure nothing suprising to get catched up someday.
The current CEO is doing not well at all as marketshare's shown, she is still on the throne and won't step back. What a huge responsibility? Ridiculous.
After this laying off servo team which is actual future of Firefox, I did lay off FF completely. I can foresee this company leaves this browser stage in 5 years, if they were keeping this same strategy.
If firefox and tor become extinct due to new laws I don’t even know what to do anymore
Likewise!!
Mozilla, you're breaking my heart! And you're going down a path I cannot follow!
:'(
Dude so true, so true! I am using Firefox as long as i can think of.
However nothing is forever we have to deal with it. Can't support
woketards!
They are copying Commodore
Firefox is my number one browser, just by configuring it well and using the right extensions. But I still use other browsers for specific purposes, security too, but not only, like opera, brave, vivladi, and for some very specific sites, chrome.
WHATEVER,
I've been with Firefox since I started browsing the internet... 2006 I guess
Won't switch unless they are dead... definitely not based on speculations
A few opposing points:
1) The HTML standard doesn't change all that fast. (w3c.org) If you start off complying with it, you should not need a vast army of programmers to keep up.
2) The need to "maintain" code is mostly just evidence that the code was no darn good to being with. In the long run focusing on making code correct instead of adding features works out better for most programs.
3) The need to tell a web site what browser you are using ("user agent string") is just a work around for buggy software. If everyone implemented the standard correctly, nobody would care which user agent you used.
4) Bugs are a major threat to security and privacy. That you can turn off tracking is not good enough. If there is an exploit, the user setting may not matter and things that are supposed to never be able happen can happen.
One thing I respect Firefox for is its bookmarks. If you want to edit or move a bookmark, you can do so without the bookmarks closing out each time you do something. This has been the case for more than a decade, and it's mainly why I use Firefox over Chrome. I'm disappointed by Firefox's recent restriction of its search bar. It used to be I could have many websites to the search bar. I used to have 10 or more, including eBay, IMDB, Dictionary.com, and Thesaurus.com. Now the websites available has dropped to 5. I'm limited to Amazon, Google Maps, Google Translate, Wikipedia, and UA-cam.
I like the new Containers feature.
Me too wish it was on android
@@ksanbahlyngwa1998 It is. Incidentally I love the Android redesign, but Collections is one of the few things I don't like about it. I just want a clean homescreen and will never use Collections.
Edit: I was confused between collections and containers. I have no problem with containers.
@@notstarboard I think talking about collections?
@@KaiDeLorenzo Yes, my bad! I'll edit the comment.
@@notstarboard you should check out containers on desktop though. It's a really cool feature
For me I lost interest in Firefox when they ousted the founder for silly reasons and started getting censorious with their add-ons. I went to Google Chrome as a temporary solution and eventually switched to Brave, which, from what I understand, is under the leadership of the OG of Mozilla/Firefox. I think another contributing factor was when Mozilla started just copying Chrome in their design choices. Up until then, Firefox and Chrome were legit alternatives to each other, and when Mozilla just started copying chrome, Firefox just become more of a poor man's Chrome. I preferred the original Firefox design and layout, and I'm sure many users did too, and when it just become just like Chrome, many of them decided if Firefox is going to look and behave like Chrome, they may as well just use Chrome instead. The key to any company's success is their ability to differentiate from their competitors, and copying a competitor eliminates that advantage. With Chrome having the market force of Google behind it and Internet Explorer and later Edge having the power of Microsoft behind them, Mozilla just can't out compete them in the same space, they needed to maintain that obvious difference in style, design and functionality to catch the market that prefers what Firefox had to offer.
Amen. Get woke go broke.
@@mynameisnotyours Yeah, I didn't want to bring in politics, but yeah, their banning of the Gab plugin was the final straw for me.
Brave✌️
@Delsur27 I've found you'll find more of that on Twitter then anywhere else. Regardless, if someone truly feels that way, I'd rather they be able to speak their mind so I know what they're like, rather then having such a person hiding their true intentions behind a mask so there's no way of really knowing.
As for Firefox, I've been finding it getting worse steadily for the past 2 years or so anyways. The only real reason I'd have for even having it around at this point is out of professional necessity. I'm a web developer, so I sometimes need to visit websites I work on in various browsers in case there's a browser specific error I need to troubleshoot.
Don't get those very often any more though, as they've standardized a lot of how they render the main code used in making websites.
@Delsur27 Mozilla works in partnership with Google for ads, so Firefox comes out of the box with all those security and privacy features turned off and you have to know they're turned off and where to find them to turn them on.
Brave may be built on Chromium, which is a Google property, but privacy and security settings are turned on by default.
Also, in Firefox, for full ad blocking and tracker blocking, I had to install an add-on to add those features in, same for Google's version of Chrome. I used Privacy Badger, which worked out well for that, but with Brave, those features are part of the vanilla browser.
As for Google's monopoly, I use DuckDuckGO as my primary search engine, resorting to Google only when I'm doing searches related to my profession, or when I didn't find what I was looking for elsewhere. For image searches, I usually use Yahoo, which has far superior options to Google.
Can you plzz suggest the best browser for privacy and how to configure it's settings for maximum privacy 💝💝
Whonix+Tor
My biggest problems with them are about features and functionality. The Firefox devs have become like the Chrome devs, getting arrogant and ignoring user feedback and doing whatever they want and making changes that ruin the browser and being oblivious to actual use and being inconsistent and hypocritical with their decisions and implementations. Unfortunately, there just aren't enough people using Firefox now, so there aren't enough people to complain and demand stuff, so the devs just say "it wasn't used much" or "not many people want this". 🤦
The worst part is that when it happened with Chrome, I just jumped ship to Firefox, but now, there's nowhere to go. 😕 It's so bad, that I'm very tempted to actually use Chrome, at least for UA-cam because t least it provides a kiosk mode; Firefox refuses to let users actually choose and have control and decide for ourselves (I've even said that they can set all the safest, most locked-down defaults they want, just let us change things as needed, but they refuse 😒).
For now, I'm resorting to modifying the source/hacking the binaries, but that can't last forever, so Chrome is looking like an option again. 😕
Try Chromium based Edge. It is good middle ground. Chrome is just bad another thing is it is from Google so the tracking level is much more heavier than edge or firefox. MS has removed Google trackers from the chromium engine. So it is faster and doesn't hog ram unlike the chrome.
What makes you think that they're ignoring users?
Pale Moon!
We have to teach our friends about internet security, share that knowledge.
Change your settings, use a google alternative like duckduckgo. Pay for your VPN.
What do you think of Brave browser?
@@luisfernando55 Not had any experience with it. Worth checking out?
@@derekjackson8465 yeap, been using for about a year, really nice with the ram management, try it 👍
I'm fan of Firefox for:
1. Full screen capture
2. huge customisation options
3. CTRL+SHIT+(PageUp/PageDown) shortcut for easy rearrangement of fans
4. The way they display json responsep in main window
Chrome for:
1. tab grouping
2. attractive user interface
3. in network tab of dev tools hides request with OPTIONS method when we apply XHR filter
At this point Firefox should just consider adopting a chromium version, I believe they've talked about it in the past. That would probably eliminate the majority of their development and security cost.
I just want a stable non-crypto centric browser that's not tied to Google or Microsoft. Currently that is Firefox for me, so it's a real bummer to hear about their problems.
Been a long time user, since the 90s with Netscape Navigator. Even purchased the CD for my Windows 95 PC back then, and loved that it came bundled with Red Hat and Mandrake Linux. Verysad that it looks like we might get servo every. Is time for them to move to WebKit, not blink (which is all Chromium based web browser are based on). WebKit is more closer to KHTML and Apple is main contributor to it. Mozilla could ditch gecko in favor of that since Apple seems to be more privacy focused and Mozilla already makes Firefox of iOS based on WebKit.
I've been using Firefox since about version 2.5. It was the all the extensions that drew me to it. The Quantum update not too long ago broke most of my extensions and the community that produces them doesn't seem as vibrant anymore. What's weird is I don't think Firefox is as good as it was pre-Quantum, but it's still better than Chrome or Edge. I have lately complained I want my old Firefox back and quit trying to turn it into Chrome.
Yes i felt the same.... and just now that abomination of mobile update... i instantly reverted back.to an older version...
This makes me sad. Been a supporter of FF for flipping forever. Going to have to watch the videos mentioned near the end. I always go through every setting, even every couple updates, of any service I use. I'm definitely no expert, very noob. Only other browser I've tried is Opera :P And I got here because I'm looking for an alternative e-mail service. I've been using hotmail and gmail :P
Yeah, I think you're basically correct. But, just the tip of the berg. I've noticed many companies being sucked up by LLC "private equity" money grubbers (new boss same as old boss; we used to call them "venture capitalists"), Corel is an example. For years maybe even before you were born I used Corel Graphics Suite and updated regularly. Now KKR owns them and they decided to go the Adobe subscription route. I used to pay for "reasonably priced" upgrades now it will run about $250 per year to stay current with the product. If the subscription lapses or expires then I loose the entire product. It's what I call the coercive upgrade or pure BS. I'll be looking elsewhere, but that's the trend; it's not exactly new just getting harder to live with. Sorry to see Mozilla taking this direction; when money talks, good sense walks. Used to be PC meant Personal Computer nothing has changed from the late 1970's I still do not own the means to operate the damn thing... and so on blah! blah!, blah!.
It's kinda sad... I'm keep telling my friends to use firefox, and I usually just install firefox anyway everytime I borrow their laptop and tell them to use firefox instead.
To be honest, majority people just dont have reasons why there're using chrome. Firefox should be survive!
Thanks for the damn privacy Telemetry tip. Shame on those bastards.
I noticed Mozilla started to lost direction in 2014 when they indirectly fired Brendan Eich.
Mozilla people destroys their own company just because of bad emotion against Eich.
Tsk..tsk.
I love Firefox and I've been using it for years. What I think Mozilla should be, since Firefox became a niche, it's to switch to a freemium business model, you can have Firefox for free which will allow you to have a full experience but less settings and a premium account with all enable: more control, the password manager, a quota (500mb per day) of VPN usage and everything else.
If users can get a real value from a freemium Firefox, I don't see the reason to don't try this road. At the end of the day we have already multiple subscriptions for multiple services, having also Firefox won't be a tragedy for the most of us that are enthusiast.
Can anyone help me understand the layoffs ? It seems almost weird to me I thought a company like Firefox would be least affected by it considering it have a low but stable income source
Pretty much in the software engineering industry, you lay off people that are unfortunately in teams that are underperforming or in other words not bringing value to the company. So, one could be a great developer and still get laid off anyway because you were on a bad team. Mozilla is just focusing on projects and probably shifting their models that will help them financially more.
We need donations to solve the digital poverty problem
Still better than chromium
To add to this decline, I just had the Firefox mobile browser upgrade forced on me. It's terrible. I's not intuitive and not useful. It won't bring up my bookmarks without going though several clicks, even though that's what I use it for 90% of the time. I'm looking for a good replacement now. And if the desktop Firefox goes the same way, Firefox will lose me completely. Thanks for the suggestions. I will check out Safari and Brave.
I think that the new firefox mobile looks way better than the only one. I actually used nightly a long time ago (before I switched to brave then to opera then to vivaldi because opera is sketchy af and now I'm back to Firefox)
Mozilla should make their engine usable outside Firefox. That's the main reason every browser is Chromium based: it's way easier to make a Chromium based browser.
Apple could throw money at Mozilla or even buy the product. Safari is lagging and Apple talks a good game on privacy. Of course, I was hoping they would buy the Camino browsers back in the day. But then they launched Safari and the Camino team was later absolved when the upstream Firefox code became too difficult for them to port, IIRC. Firefox with the Quantum engine has been my default browser since it was released. It has great features and it works for my needs. It will be sad to see it go.
My main Browser is Mozila Firefox besides epic privacy browser
If only internet in Iraq was better for Tor(BTW Iraq has the most expensive internet service )
Epic isn't open source, and its based in India.
@@lewis9046 really ? Didn't know that....thanks for notifying.
@@tjforentertainment5423 I'd use Brave or Ungoogled Chromium instead
@@lewis9046 thanks....i already downloaded brave when i read the comments down here.
Epic was also bought by Yahoo/Verizon
Yes I agree u.
And when I tested 9 browsers including
.Firefox,
.Vivaldi,
. Microsoft Edge,
.Samsung Internet Browser,
.Coc Coc Browser,
.Chrome,
.Phoenix Browser,
.Cake Browser and
.Brave Browser
Firefox scored the least of all 6 test like
.Speedometer,
.Motion Benchmark,
.Jet Stream,
.WebXprt2,
.Octain Benchmark and
.BaseMark Test
which I did on those all 9 browsers.
Even less known browser like Cake, Coc Coc and Vivaldi scored more than Firefox.
One reason to use Firefox for me:
1. It's easy because it came already installed on Pop!_OS and support u2f without any workarounds on Linux. Any Chromium-based browser can't do this out-of-the-box on Linux and the workarounds contradict each other and the ones I've tried just don't work.
One reason, to don't use Firefox:
Librewolf
I keep seeing this trend of big companies like this having to resort to advertising to support itself as their product is essentially free. I think part of the blame is on us as consumers who don't donate enough to make these projects viable enough to work on their own. For example the Facebook beast is largely supported by advertising. If they found another way to support itself they could implement better privacy but since it seems there entire model for money making is from advertising it's against their own interests to do anything of the sort. I think we are getting too use to free digital services that end up making us the product.
Firefox was for most of its history a browser for power users. Mozilla then decided it didn't really care about power users, that they should focus on casual users. As power user features began being cut down, power users began moving away, all the while casual users weren't getting on board, so they began losing even more market share. What did Mozilla do? Why, they doubled down on the same strategy! Hoping "this time" the result will be different! And when the few power users still using it complain, guess what Mozilla management, and Mozilla's engineers, reaction is?
A recent example of what I mean: the most recent stable version of Firefox for Android entirely blocked the about: config page, so if you want access to those advanced options you must switch to the beta channel, thus being forced into a worse experience. Why? Because casual users might maybe perchance type that and mess their Firefox. Meanwhile, Chrome's version, the chrome: // flags page, continues available and working as it always did.
Mozilla is lost and, in a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, blind to its own lack of self-awareness. That's a truly sad thing to watch...
4:24 People are probably quicker to criticize Brave because they dislike Brendan Eich. I understand why people do this but if I boycotted every product that benefits someone I dislike/disagree with I'd have to stop using a great many things. Try buying any piece of modern tech that doesn't have Chinese parts and isn't made with oil byproducts, I doubt it's possible.
I love Firefox, I will use it until it's gone or a terrible idea to do so. I still have to have a blink engine browser to use certain sites, I'm willing to use multiple browsers daily but the average person isn't. If I'm setting up a system for someone else I typically go with Brave because I don't want a "WHY AIN'T EBAY WORKIN?" phone call at 10PM... I do think Firefox is faster and more stable on most sites, it just doesn't work(for me, your experience may be different) on some sites at all.
I hope Mozilla can find a way to successfully monetize their products and maintain their values. Large projects without solid revenue streams aren't long for this world.
Boycotting may be difficult at times but even some is better than none. Stick to your convictions and don't let our capitalist, consumerist society wear you down!
@@ListenToPumpkinMusic I get what you're saying(and mostly agree) but sometimes we're forced to make the least shitty choice. Without diving too deep into politics or economics(it's an election year and I don't have the energy) I have ethical and/or practical issues with almost every company, product or service, which forces me to choose which hills to die on. I want to live in a world where I can buy a 3d printed CPU and some free range eggs from the local farmer, hopefully we will be there one day.
@@eloquenthillbilly I guess that's what I'm saying - it's not always possible to make the perfect choice as a consumer but that shouldn't mean we give up totally. Many people seem to think if they can't have a 100% perfect record then there is no point trying at all.
The question, who do you trust? Trust in the internet age is something very difficult because in the end you could say you can't trust anyone. But I do trust Mozilla more than a Google or Apple.
I Trust Mega more than Dropbox. The reason why mozilla is selling VPN is because it's easy money.
A VPN has very little infrastructure and is very cheap to maintain. They do this so that they are not 100% relying on Google Money. I see it as a good thing, a little bit like crowd founding.
CEO's always get more money while companies lay people off. Though I think you are correct, Firefox is starting to drop. I mean, the UA-cam bug annoys me to no end. If it weren't for them having slightly better add ons, I'd probably stop using them for certain things.
At work we HAVE to use it, because it is the one our software works best with (the company we run some web services with built it around Firefox for the user interface)
I do not know, but I never considered Firefox, a privacy browser. For me, it was just like other browsers, the key difference being it did not eat as much RAM like chromium based browsers. Otherwise, there was no tracker/ad blocking by default, and default search engine was google. Not much different from Chrome apart from using less system resources.
Mozilla is the only mainstream privacy focussed company on the Tech market and it hurts so much to see them slowly dying...
Without them, we can forget privacy by default idea :/
They are the LAST chance for the movement to reach the normies!
I've lived Firebird since 0.7, used it before also then it was together with Netscape and av.com before av started spreading worms in adds banners at the same time Google came as search engine.
Av was superior search, as first page ain't filled with payed adds like it are on Google.
If search on Google, they get payed % of what you buy as got kickback deals
Remember back in the early 2010s when we had this fantasy of non-profits being a viable model to building and maintaining good products? Lol we were so naive.
By this point, I use Firefox so much, I'd probably pay $50 for an unlimited copy. With maybe another $20 a year for updates. Just to get the Google claws out of it.
I'm gonna use Firefox 'til its death cause I find the interface *WAY* more intuitive and user friendly than Chrome. I can customize it better imo (simple things but I can't do it on Chrome).
I also use Chrome regularly because I'm one of those guys that has a million tabs and one browser just isn't enough. So yeah I actually tried Chrome, not talking without knowing
I uninstalled both Firefox and Thunderbird the day after their pro-censorship announcement. The last thing I want to be pro-censorship is my web browser.
Left Firefox a few years ago. The only reason they exist today is because Google thinks it's cheaper to prop FF up than facing a ATT like breakup in the future.
Very good video. In my view, Mozilla not only needs to get their act together but needs to be open to ideas, advice, and to be more forthright about what the layoffs mean for the company and Firefox overall. I agree the Google deal they have is fishy, but these layoffs may not be a big deal in the end. None the less, the CEO or brass of Mozilla should do a UA-cam conference or video of some kind to layout the ramifications of the layoffs and what they hope to achieve for Mozilla's future. Firefox is an excellent browser and it would be a catastrophe if it was lost.
If they were not so WOKE sending out tons of e-mails praising lib ideas, they might get the attention of those who really want a good browser. Fire the WOKE people and hire more engineers!
Crap i overlooked the tab that said "Only in Privat Mode" so i thought i switched tracking off but i did not, sneaky bastards!
The only Firefox problem: trying to be like Chrome, being a history leech. Financially, that's sadly a need, but at least be clear about your need to sellout.
This video make me reconsider the phrase "Open Source won", but maybe it's both at the same time.
firefox os looked like it would have been pretty damn good .
i hope they take up that torch ones again.
but for the pinephone instead :)
Monzilla is now starting smear campaigns against the decentralised web. Monzilla truly is dead now.
I thought Firefox as guardian angel for me but I'm pretty scare of future browser s
I have lost all trust for them to abide by any of the claims they have ever made.
That is trust that they will never earn back from me.
i thought firefox was suppose to be about "your protection" ?It's starting to act like Chrome
Mozilla saved me from IE, for which I will always be grateful. Vivaldi is my browser of choice these days (I know, not FOSS), but I find it oddly comforting that Firefox is still out there, still in active development. So this comes as sad news.
Firefox should drop their renderer and just switch to WebKit or something more adopted. As long as it’s open source it will improve things greatly
I think Firefox is given a bit of slack over Brave as people see Brave as a trend because of its cryptocurrency focus and people see it as kind of lazy because its based on chromium.
0:07 you forget to change photo on display of the phone
I considered it, then checked the time and realized it was 3 AM. The rest is history. Good eye
Google 🤢🤮 Apple 🤮🤢 Mozilla 🤢 Brave 🤢🤮 twitter 🤮🤢 Facebook 🤮🤢
Can you add subtitles to your videos? Especially this video. Greetings from Türkiye 🇹🇷
If Firefox falls,
𝙈𝙖𝙣𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙙 𝙛𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙨
The nail in the coffin for me was Edge passing Firefox...
Ladies and gentlemen we got stabbed in the...
Balls, I suppose.
The said thing would be if Firefox dies, we will be left with Google and Apple based browsers since Opera went over to Google.
i dislike mozilla. but out of all browser devs i dislike them the least.
Compiling Firefox is a monumental task... compared to other compile projects. 🤦♂️
Doesn't it take like 8 hrs?
Hi techlore love your videos I'm interested in WeVpn could you maybe do a review?
Firefox died when they decided that extension developers weren't worth listening to. It died when they introduced the rapid release schedule, back in Firefox 5. Every slight since then has been Mozilla stabbing a dead horse to kill it even more. They destroyed the amazing ecosystem that they built AS THEY BUILT their marketshare, they destroyed the reason the browser was made in the first place (openness), but really, at the end of the day, they lost sight of what made Firefox important: people actually caring about what browser they use.
Nowadays, people don't care about their browser.
I find Firefox handy because a) it has a way to set a custom socks 5 proxy b) when a website is acting "buggy" and not seeming to work, I fire it up in Firefox to see if it can get through the javascript. Oh and c) On my very old studio imac, I use it to run Shadertoy pages as Chrome is not updating on macOS 10.9 any more (I stay on 10.9 due to the music software I'm running)
It's interesting watching this video. I have not really thought about Mozilla since I switched from Firefox about 6 years ago.
They don't have a lot to show for the billions of Google money that has washed through their hands. Have they actually produced anything new and worthwhile since they were spun out of AOL? Apart from Rust I guess.
Netscape 3 -> IE 4 -> Netscape 4 -> Mozilla -> Netscape 6 -> Mozilla -> Phoenix -> Firefox -> Chrome -> Brave
I come all the way back from mosaic and netscape, so firefox was my browser for many years.
Then, they started changing things for the sake of "changing things"
The straw that broke the camel's back was when they removed the description field from bookmarks.
Firefox usage is shrinking to obscurity, and they caused it themselves.
I started using Firefox in 2013 once I got a new PC and Chrome wasn't working on it at all, even now Chrome doesn't work on my current PC, damn ram hog. I have gotten so used to various little things in Firefox like the view image button and the way downloads work that I literally cannot use a Chromium based browser as a main browser. I have Chromium Edge and the way downloads work is just a huge pain in the ass.
I stopped using Firefox a long time ago, because I didn't like the experience. Certain websites did not maintain compatibility with Firefox, I think Netflix was one that used to have a lot of problems, some sites that use Scripting would have problems, and I had so many sites that would recommend Google Chrome, I switched to Chrome because it caused less problems and performed better. Recently I switched to Vivaldi, it is basically Chrome with Privacy, but then Chrome came out with a bunch of really cool apps such as Libde 265 that allows you to play 4k video in your browser! So that got me back to Chrome. As far as the privacy issue, privacy is a myth, if you use a VPN they all track you, and all VPNs are legally bound to give all your info to Law Enforcement upon request. Regardless of what they say in their ads they're lying. Trust me. And where are you going to go on the Internet where they are not going to track you? Some drug dealer on the deep web? If you are going to FB, YT, Instagram, twitter, all the main sights are tracking your every move, so what is the point in worrying about Privacy? Are you doing something wrong? That's what the Cops are gonna think if you take steps to worry about your privacy, and believe me, if man has created it, man can hack it! 😁
I'm watching this from Firefox... The only thing Mozilla should do is keep going with Firefox and renew the Thunderbird interface look (it's too outdated)
I can't use TorBrowser or Brave because I can't alter the default theme to a Dark Theme. I've tried setting the Theme to Dark, I've tried changing the colors, I've tried making a userChrome.css sytlesheet, not a damn thing works and the people at TorBrowser know it because I've read through their dev bug reports on it. Staring at either one with their unchangable blazing white backgrounds is like staring at the sun for me, or for you, staring at a bright white florescent bulb inches from your eyes. It's unbearable.
As much as you might rag on Firefox, at least when you set it to a Dark theme, it goes to a Dark theme. It's the only browser I can use because god damn dark themes work on it. Dark as in white text on a black background.
Why the hell won't Firefox just work like Wikipedia, and set up a Patreon account or Paypal Donate button. I mean, donations work for Wikipedia. Focus on making the Firefox browser alone and the world will donate to you as a bulkward against unmitigated evil.'
did somebody notice the other dude in the phone screen at 0:09? XD
Thoughts on SmartCookieWeb? The fact it's on F-Droid is a huge plus for me
Ohhh man seeing that they lead off such Integral people like security teams all while top ranking employees salaries grow….come on Mozilla 😭😭😭😭
I feel like Henry is slowly becoming a apple fan. While they are not the worst there a definitely alot of people giving them too much credit.
I loved FF, but since Quantum went to Preview aka. Daylight/Fenix it is an absolutely horrible experience...
Yes the UI layout is really clean w/new feats. & there are some pretty cool purojects/services Mozilla FF is offering.... BUT
The overall functionality of FF Preview aka. Daylight aka. Fenix has gone to s*** especially on their mobile platform...
You used to be able to avoid backdoor downloads from play & download direct from Moz Secure Servers & Now downloading & updates must go through either Github, Play, or another repo/mirror that is questionable.
So far no more about: anything for deep sys/power user experience. Moz FF says it has to do with "pribacy & security", but the about: function that was an easy & integral part of security & operation is locked down...
Plus add-ons/extensions are extremely limited vs Quantum & now have rediculous perms that allow access to network, pages, content, storage & so on
The only way to get into what used to be a simple url about:config, flags, url, etc. now is either locked out or has to be accessed by cmd line or shell scripting which unless you have full access to source which is supposed to be open source(which as it turns out its core source & other elements are locked down) like maybe it's framework is an "open source prgrm/app on device on top of another hardcoded layer that's embedded into the AoD maybe as a walled garden AoD or possibly stacked with deep system integrated cloud app going to C & C servers?.?#?.?
"Am I off base on this or has anyone got the same result when trying to access certain parts & been denied without admin privileges?"
The functionality of FF browser what used to be great is now broken.
Now the best & possibly more secure browsers from Mozilla versions are FF Developer + Development tools & FF Nightly
Any thoughts????
HHHEELLPP!, please. I'm just a basic "user" wanting to be detached from Google and Chrome, Gmail, etc. I thought Firefox was It. Now confused and not sure where to go to escape the GOOGLE monster. Just don't want to be tracked, spied on etc., by GOOGLE. What should I do, at least for Now? Just simple instruction would help, Brave, Proton Mail, ad duckduckgo or ??
The day i have to set Chrome or any other Chromium browser as my default browser is the day I stop using the world wide web! So far Firefox has saved me from doing this.
To be honest, I'm not bothered TO much by the Google thing. Yeah, it's a deal with the devil and all, but changing the default search engine isn't a big deal and unlike the privacy stuff, you'll see it as a user almost immediatly.
The problem is, that at the moment, there is literally no other way to make so much money to survive without the google deal.
In order to make money, I'd suggest a Services approach really, just like their VPN. The Problem with the VPN for the most part is really, that those aren't their own servers and you could simply go to mulvad instead. That would make more sense to me. But Clouds, Email, Password Managers? That's all stuff where you'd want some privacy and security - and Mozilla is one of the very few "companies" I'd actually trust. If they then would implement it right... Sure, for Mail we got Proton, for Passwords there are Keepass and Bitwarden as open Source projects, but the cloud space is suprisingly slim for privacy advocats, that don't want to self host.