Adapting Wing Chun For The Streets - Sifu Phillip Redmond

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  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary  3 роки тому +31

    Sifu Redmond's channel is linked in the description.
    Here for your convenience: ua-cam.com/users/sifupr
    Here are two videos that Sifu Redmond sent me about razors:
    ua-cam.com/video/DzLFquT2jTQ/v-deo.html
    ua-cam.com/video/NYmEaoXE98A/v-deo.html

    • @AdaJUNQUAN
      @AdaJUNQUAN 9 місяців тому

      Why don't you use the backfist from Bruce Lee

  • @SelectsCanneberges
    @SelectsCanneberges 3 роки тому +40

    It's nice to see someone understand the difference between an exercise and practicality.

    • @PaulGappyNorris
      @PaulGappyNorris 3 роки тому

      But he doesn’t, does he… Talk is cheap.

    • @SelectsCanneberges
      @SelectsCanneberges 3 роки тому

      @@PaulGappyNorris I disagree.

    • @channel-nv9xc
      @channel-nv9xc 2 роки тому

      @@PaulGappyNorris would you have preferred he beat up everybody there?

  • @gerardovazquez7416
    @gerardovazquez7416 3 роки тому +37

    Thanks for covering this material. He actually was my instructor years ago. Since then, I used Sifu’s Wing Chun logic in every area of martial arts I’ve had the pleasure of practicing. Thanks Sifu. Oh yeah, back in the day Sifu made us fight everyone who came to the park to challenge us. Yeah, we trained in our school, in local parks, on the sidewalks. This allowed for plenty of opportunity to put your skills to the test :)

    • @Pokeboi1691
      @Pokeboi1691 3 роки тому

      Where is the school located

    • @gerardovazquez7416
      @gerardovazquez7416 3 роки тому +1

      @@Pokeboi1691 Sifu teaches in California now. I learned back 80’s in New York.

  • @jlamont5202
    @jlamont5202 9 місяців тому +2

    Happy to see Sifu Redmond, this is the method I train, my Sifu Ryan Kennedy is Sifu Redmonds student!

  • @WCGMartialArts
    @WCGMartialArts 3 роки тому +63

    This is great. I'm glad more people seem to be thinking about this critically and allowing their wing Chun to be adaptable. In my humble opinion, Chi Sao makes way more sense once you start applying it to bridging the gap between striking and clinching, and when you apply it to clinching itself. I dont see it so much as applicable in striking. Striking happens too fast for that a lot of the time. It is all about sticking to your opponent, redirecting them and controlling their centre of balance while aiming to maintain your balance and structure which suggests clinching to me more than striking.

    • @SnoopiProGamer2
      @SnoopiProGamer2 3 роки тому +3

      While i agree that Chi Sao is most applicable to bridging and clinching, i've gotta add that Chi Sao training also helps against striking, as it teaches you to instinctively react to an incoming force on impact - on the very moment you touch.
      One example is: to learn when to use Tan Sao vs Bong Sao. Bong Sao, you typically use, when the force of the opponents strike is crushing your center line and cannot be taken in with a Tan Sao. At first, for me, it seemed impossible to fail-over to Bong Sao from Tan Sao within a split second of a strike, especially since it requires shifting your entire body the other way. After enough (Chi Sao) training, however, i learned to asses the force on the very moment of impact and my body reacts with a Tan Sao or Bong Sao respectively without thinking - even when it goes against what i actually expected*.
      *) imo, fights are just as much mind games as they are physical.. you always try to predict your opponents actions, and trick him about your own intensions, and try to manipulate him - and steer the fight the way you want..
      but Chi Sao helps you to remain flexibel and relaxed when things dont actually go your way and helps you react to an unpredicted situation without thinking
      it helps you be water, my friend :P

    • @WCGMartialArts
      @WCGMartialArts 3 роки тому +2

      @@SnoopiProGamer2 Oh yes, I do think chisao helps with striking, I just think there isn't enough emphasis on bridging or clinching in a lot of wing chun.

    • @outhousephilosophies3992
      @outhousephilosophies3992 2 роки тому +1

      Do actual safe sparring, against different opponents , philosophy is fine til you get punched in the face

    • @channel-nv9xc
      @channel-nv9xc 2 роки тому

      @@SnoopiProGamer2 I agree with that. Chi sao trains me to quickly switch between defensive moves so that it's more instinctive. That's really important when you're learning a martial art with a complex defensive structure like Wing Chun. With boxing you just put your gloves to your head or you dodge/slip/duck. With Wing Chun there is a much wider array of responses to incoming attacks (some would say too many). Chi sao helps you reactively know which technique is ideal for a given type of incoming attack.
      Until you're in a real fight, get nervous and forget everything haha. Pressure test, my friends. Always pressure test.

  • @davidh7088
    @davidh7088 3 роки тому +15

    I think the main factor to be considered is range. Wing Chun is very effective at close range, but most practitioners seem to keep one step further back then they should.

    • @gabesperber9958
      @gabesperber9958 3 роки тому

      "very effective" 😆 🤣 ill have what you're having 🍻

    • @davidh7088
      @davidh7088 3 роки тому +1

      @@gabesperber9958 I'm having your Mum.

  • @letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo
    @letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo 3 роки тому +6

    The Wing Chun is alive in the Sifu's mind, he took the forms and drills wholesale and then saw its essence and applied it to a modern day application, very good

  • @integratedfightingarts
    @integratedfightingarts 3 роки тому +12

    What's interesting about this is that a lot of what Sifu Redmond talks about here occurs to almost every wing chun person as soon as they start trying to fight. It hit me 15 years ago, and I'm sure Sifu realized it long ago. I was lucky to have been in JKD, boxing, mma and bjj before I took up wing chun, but I think everyone naturally twists their fist, uses the balls of their feet on a 50/50 base and a proper guard once the rubber hits the road.

  • @me82sjm
    @me82sjm 2 роки тому +2

    Had some conversations with this man about wing chun before. Great dude a lot of experience and very knowledgeable

  • @UFC_Buffalo
    @UFC_Buffalo 3 роки тому +8

    This is why I always say throw a lead leg head kick first lol.
    As long as you've the capability to defend on the ground if necessary, in case you slip or something.
    Nowadays, from a coaching perspective, I like to see a fighter, in a sanctioned bout, not a street fight lol, throw a headkick early, even if it's blocked, just so it's always in the opponent's mind.

  • @prodango5272
    @prodango5272 3 роки тому +6

    Any pressure testing?

  • @xaviercarson6399
    @xaviercarson6399 2 роки тому +1

    Welll done

  • @michaelventra8992
    @michaelventra8992 11 місяців тому +1

    Reading the comment section compels me to address the numerous misunderstandings contained within:
    1. Nothing Sifu Redmond demonstrated is “adapted”, or “modified.” It’s exactly what’s taught under the Traditional Wing Chun lineage of William Cheung.
    2. William Cheung and Bruce Lee we’re friends since age 9 and Cheung introduced Lee to Ip Man. Cheung taught Lee privately after he was kicked out of Ip Man’s school due to the xenophobia of some senior students (Lee wasn’t 100% Chinese).
    3. Sifu Redmond has been in numerous street fights, amateur bouts, and smokers therefore he is teaching from bonafide experience. Many of his students have used these techniques in real life and sparring against other martial disciplines with great success.
    Lastly, the comments one makes is a reflection of whether their glass is empty or full. All martial artists should understand which one is best to have.

  • @shadowfighter6445
    @shadowfighter6445 3 роки тому +7

    This is a neat Wing Chun approach.
    Thank you for sharing ☺️.

  • @LightGlyphRasengan
    @LightGlyphRasengan 3 роки тому +1

    This is so good. When you learn kung fu, you don't fight in your low ass horse stance. You're less mobile. I love how this guy broke down the stance differences as opposed to being in the classroom and being against some rando

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER 2 роки тому +1

    This guy knows his shhh. 😉💥💯

  • @MrMattias87
    @MrMattias87 3 роки тому +16

    Yeah I agree with the guard, I do karate and I was taught the traditional kumite stance for point scorring kumite but I've always known that the kumite guard is not exactly good for a street fight but only for dojo sparring against other karate people because we too are taught to protect our centrelines. As soon as I crossed trained into muay thai that completely changed my views on fighting. Especially close quarter fighting. And I recommend for any traditional martial artists, be it they do karate or TKD to cross train into muay thai cos it will definitely change your perspectives on fighting. You can still apply the principles from either arts because muay thai speaks of the same things...only difference is is the dynamics.

    • @randombencounter263
      @randombencounter263 3 роки тому

      I think the weird "kumite guard" with your hands all the way out just comes from the fact that old school karate didn't have modern equipment to train. Back in the day they didn't have pads or gloves, so when they wanted to practice their striking on each other, they had the guy they drilled on hold his hands out like he would have been holding pads. Same reason why the super traditional styles like kyokushin don't do punches to the head, because when the training was set down for the first time they didn't have helmets and mouthguards to practice punching each other in the head safely.

  • @bisayangslang3554
    @bisayangslang3554 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, this is the authentic wing chun.. all my respect is with you Sifu.

  • @germanshepherdlover2613
    @germanshepherdlover2613 Рік тому +1

    Great to see a WC person who really knows what he is talking about. What an excellent Sifu, just subscribed to his channel 🙂

  • @UFC_Buffalo
    @UFC_Buffalo 3 роки тому +4

    Love the vids brother, keep up the good work!

  • @peterpowell6602
    @peterpowell6602 3 роки тому +9

    This was cool to watch, did you ask him why he uses a different stance in the classroom? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to practise in the stance your going to use when it comes to fighting?

    • @gabesperber9958
      @gabesperber9958 3 роки тому

      Yeah, its a waste of time. We've heard the excuse that it was illegal to learn real fighting hundreds of years ago.. A lot of these arts are just dancing, they don't generate any power, like hamster slap fighting, or a stunt double scene. Every time I see techniques demonstrated against zero resistance, where the one person just holds still in the middle of a fight/demonstration I see dancing, and it is all cringe.

    • @channel-nv9xc
      @channel-nv9xc 2 роки тому

      @@gabesperber9958 uh, they do that in EVERY martial art when you're learning and practicing drills. It's not like you enter the dojo and they put you in the cage. Good wing Chun schools do their fair share of sparring.

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER 2 роки тому

    2:10 VIPER KUEN JKD does the stance the same way. Fantastic coach. Top notch advice.

  • @MrDons3
    @MrDons3 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome teaching and communication skills.

  • @benjamindavis788
    @benjamindavis788 3 роки тому +7

    Why do these Kung Fu demos always consist of an assistant who doesn’t even know how to throw a genuine punch?

  • @j.romero3889
    @j.romero3889 3 роки тому +7

    Next episode: "Adapting Wing-chun for the sheets 😏"

  • @kevinlobos5519
    @kevinlobos5519 3 роки тому +8

    Very nice stuff, i wouldn't mind seeing more of this guy. All of his points were very well explained and he showed very solid principles.
    The only thing i doubted about was with the people carrying blades in their mouths. That was... Weird to say the least.

    • @GRIMSVOLT
      @GRIMSVOLT 3 роки тому +1

      Probably not as slick as he was describing it, but yes, a tongue isn't the only sharp thing in some con and excon mouths.

    • @Songoku7Els
      @Songoku7Els 3 роки тому +2

      It's pretty much as he described it. More an older school thing but there are still people out there.

    • @quickstep2408
      @quickstep2408 3 роки тому

      i've heard about it in a prison doc. just seems counter-intuitive to do because you could easily cut up your own mouth with the razor lol.

    • @Songoku7Els
      @Songoku7Els 3 роки тому

      @@quickstep2408 True. A lot of fighting is counter-intuitive.

    • @ryanbarclay7939
      @ryanbarclay7939 3 роки тому +2

      Pretty common with women here in the South. Some of those razor blades come with little plastic covers on them, so you can hide them under the tongue or in the cheek. Also common to see it in the long hair.

  • @BlessedWarrior
    @BlessedWarrior 3 роки тому +1

    That's very true about what Sifu Redmond says. I practice Wing Chun Kung Fu as well, you gotta move freely in the street, not directly into wu sao guard. But i guess each school has it's own way..

  • @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840
    @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840 3 роки тому +2

    Chi Sao is not so far away from Kakie which we use also as a drill in Okinawan Karate.
    I like it how Sifu Phillip explains the use of traditional martial arts in a realistic context of self defence.🙏🏽🙏🏽
    Very skilfull Sifu, Mister Redmond 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @bongkem2723
    @bongkem2723 3 роки тому

    awesome video from a real calm sifu, he explains things so clearly and logical, no bs !!!

  • @jerrydmann
    @jerrydmann 3 роки тому

    Great video. Grateful for the lessons from Sifu Redmond.

  • @e22378
    @e22378 3 роки тому

    I like this guy’s application

  • @jmkosky
    @jmkosky 3 роки тому

    Always worth watching. Thanks for another gem.

  • @prastagus3
    @prastagus3 3 роки тому +1

    real lesson worth its weight in gold

  • @KevinTangYT
    @KevinTangYT 3 роки тому +1

    I've touched hands with some of Sifu Redmond's student's student's. Many of them also do boxing as well. I think it's fine to combine the two. Like Sifu Redmond says, either you're in fight range or you're not. If you are, you have all the power generation and footwork from boxing and defensive handwork from WC.

    • @yoshidayui7774
      @yoshidayui7774 3 роки тому

      I'm sure Mayweather used some "wing chun".

    • @KevinTangYT
      @KevinTangYT 3 роки тому

      @@yoshidayui7774 Are you Mayweather? If you only box, more power to you.

  • @MattBrooks-Green
    @MattBrooks-Green 3 роки тому

    This is great. Thanks for sharing Jerry

  • @Adjustmentxdisorder
    @Adjustmentxdisorder 3 роки тому

    My sifu teaches his wing chun like this. Advertised as a combat system and not a classic kung fu school. These methods work 100%

  • @BarmyDeer
    @BarmyDeer 2 роки тому

    Good. Essentially boxing stance with emphasis on parries, and functional footwork.

    • @akaalisbenjamin2093
      @akaalisbenjamin2093 2 роки тому

      I practiced that particular WC system and to bridge it with boxing is almost seamless

  • @jelaneytaters8149
    @jelaneytaters8149 3 роки тому +1

    So I'm a self described practical amateur, meaning, I don't see myself getting in the cage anytime soon, I know there are many many people out there way better than me, however I have done both MMA and TMA and hard sparred alot of amateur fighters, even some low level pros. I've regularly fought with friends and tested out various moves for many years now. I'm extremely focused on real life application/how do I end this ASAP and leave alive. All this to say I'm finding it easier and easier to mix things like standard western boxing and trapping, or even last night we were spontaneously throwing wrist locks and it totally worked ( contextually ) we were using karate wrist blocks and Muay Thai elbow blocks and palm parrying seamlessly. Training Okinawan popping ankle throws AND standing double legs.
    So while I typically lean towards the MMA side of things my main point here is that there is alot of value across a broad spectrum of styles and it really comes down to...test it out, now does it work for you? Let's stop the MMA/TMA divide. Focus on actually fighting and just ...do what's working. Anyways great vid,.great channel, peace

  • @AGuy-s5v
    @AGuy-s5v 3 роки тому +11

    Not a wing-chun practitioner. (Jiu-jitsu and Judo and picking up more.)
    It's an interesting take on chi-sao.
    I'd almost like to see this hand drill added to something like Boxing or kickboxing to see if the whole "left brain right brain" thing actually helps or not.
    We'd need to have a bit of a sample size. 10 newbies, 5 do unmodified boxing/kickboxing and the other 5 apply that chi sao drill to "engage left and right brain".
    Interesting videos, as always!

    • @AGuy-s5v
      @AGuy-s5v 3 роки тому

      @@GuitarsRockForever I would assume it would maybe make some difference. Whether or not it's minute or massive we would have to actually test it and see.
      But as always, its a matter of who your training and how you apply the concept.
      So even if we get a result that's in favor or against, We'd still have to keep playing around with it.

    • @gingercore69
      @gingercore69 3 роки тому +2

      @@GuitarsRockForever when i went from point style karate to boxing my sparring partners HATED that i would change stances all the time, mixing stances up made them get distracted and "not be able to guess the distance tht well"

    • @Songoku7Els
      @Songoku7Els 3 роки тому

      Boxers already use Chi Sau even if they don't know

    • @AGuy-s5v
      @AGuy-s5v 3 роки тому

      @@Songoku7Els But is it really that emphasized?
      I've seen some instructors elude to the idea of trapping, but never do I see them really take time to flesh it out.

    • @quickstep2408
      @quickstep2408 3 роки тому

      @@AGuy-s5v lol dude, you're not going to be able to chi sao a pure boxer's strikes... come on, use your head. they also don't just stand there when they strike, they immediately move right afterwards or into their punches... the sifu had interesting concepts regarding chi sao, but it's for self defense, even better against an untrained person whose strikes are most likely going to be telegraphed and slower. there's a really good kali video where buddy tests out trapping by sparring with a seasoned boxer. the only thing he actually pulled off, and i think i remember it was only once, or twice, was a simple parry... which boxers already do on occasion. his conclusion was that you're not going to be doing any trapping if your opponent/attacker is nice with their hands and footwork.

  • @Trickster7916
    @Trickster7916 3 роки тому +1

    Seems like he's lived in big cities like New York or Detroit! Love my peoples for teaching what truly WORKS!

  • @AndrewLinArchives
    @AndrewLinArchives 3 роки тому +1

    It was cool to see the similarities and differences between the TWC that Sifu Redmond knows and the Wing Tsun i've been learning so far. His take on Chi Sau as a drill versus actual fighting definitely rings true. The hours of cool-looking chi sau training is for that brief moment in a fight when your arms make contact with an opponent so that you can respond to their movement. I will say, my understanding of the foot-dragging footwork is more to train adduction muscles, and less for practical application. My theory is that it was a way to strength train before modern gym equipment existed, but I could be talking out my ass lol

  • @juliuscross3324
    @juliuscross3324 3 роки тому +6

    These defenses are how we see dudes get slept. The lead trap doesn't work against a good punch.

  • @Drinky_Crow
    @Drinky_Crow 3 роки тому

    What a refreshing take on Wing Chun. Good content. I will go check out his channel

  • @AnaHernandez-ts7nj
    @AnaHernandez-ts7nj 3 роки тому

    I really appreciate his approach because I tell everybody the same thing about the Filipino martial arts they are just drills the actual fight is not the same as a drill it's for sensitivity same as boxing

  • @jaeyoungkang5951
    @jaeyoungkang5951 3 роки тому

    This is all good and interesting for striking, but how does Wing Chun defend against grapplers (or even just a bigger person rushing in to tackle you)? Asking because this video had a BJJ black belt.

  • @GoHammerAndTongs
    @GoHammerAndTongs 3 роки тому

    Interesting work. The wooden dummy form has a lot of the footwork and manoeuvring around a larger opponent concepts that he is talking about baked into the system. The maxims of wing chun also reflects on these same concepts. Loved the discussion about chi sau and how the training is to make the 2 halves of the body work independently. That’s how I explain it to friends. Of course as a practitioner you need to pressure test it.

  • @jinkukuhitacu3044
    @jinkukuhitacu3044 3 роки тому

    Adopting new things to make the old better this is what traditional martial arts needs adaptation. For street situations

  • @chickenbiscuit4525
    @chickenbiscuit4525 3 роки тому

    Cool vid ! It doesn't need to look astounding as much as it is an effective fighting style.
    Sifus taking careful chances with the newbies. 🙏

  • @canaldesugestoesa6651
    @canaldesugestoesa6651 3 роки тому +2

    interesting these combat mechanisms, but it needs to be tested against various attacks, from kicks and punches. but it's already a good way.

  • @mehmetaydinoglu4108
    @mehmetaydinoglu4108 3 роки тому +3

    ive done wingchun on and off for 4 years. I love it, but i dont use EVERYTHING i learnt in class. For eg through experience for self defence close combat, space limited areas wingchun is my eject button. When brawling i stick to muay thai/boxing

  • @Alexander-rd7bi
    @Alexander-rd7bi 3 роки тому

    correct me if I am wrong since I don't do Wing Chun. Chi Sau reminds me of the grip fighting part in Judo, so maybe the training is more like for that...?

    • @lionsden4563
      @lionsden4563 3 роки тому

      Perhaps but Chi Sau is a waste of time.

    • @florisvanlingen
      @florisvanlingen 3 роки тому

      @@lionsden4563 haters be like

    • @lionsden4563
      @lionsden4563 3 роки тому

      @@florisvanlingen,
      You like spending most of your time doing Chi Sau? Good lord.

    • @Alexander-rd7bi
      @Alexander-rd7bi 3 роки тому

      idk guys, but maybe the problem of Chi Sau training is it has been doing it the wrong way just like Akido training. There two training partners should resist all the time and try to punch each other for real fight, and even throwing, in this way prolly it would be more practical and closer to real fight scenario.

    • @lionsden4563
      @lionsden4563 3 роки тому

      @@Alexander-rd7bi,
      Just learn clinching and grappling or free spar. Don't waste your time on Chi Sau.

  • @nathanpetrich7309
    @nathanpetrich7309 9 місяців тому

    Okay but when do you talk about the razor blade in the mouth? Because in my mind it's important to be able to breath while fighting, and like idk not worry about having a razor in my mouth if someone impacta my face anywhere.

  • @sattoriemei3210
    @sattoriemei3210 3 роки тому

    Another benefit to chi sau is to get comfortable with hands crossing, that is left hand passing the centerline to the right side while right hand passing the centerline to the left side. Without training most people become proprioceptively confused when their hands cross like that.

  • @lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop
    @lifesabuzzwhoopwhoop 3 роки тому

    This helped my understanding a lot thank you 😊

  • @TOrganic
    @TOrganic 3 роки тому +3

    This is good stuff, but like to see it in real action.

  • @johnwick-ff2ql
    @johnwick-ff2ql 11 місяців тому

    I will request you to cover sifu francis fong's videos

  • @borojkd8189
    @borojkd8189 3 роки тому +1

    I think most masters of traditional arts did not watch "King of the streets" when arranging street versions of traditional martial arts. They still do it as if on a dummy.

  • @Tequn9q
    @Tequn9q 3 роки тому

    Thank you for giving a take on Wing!
    Also nice to hear the perspectives from this lineage .He really seem to represent an interpretatiion of William Cheung.
    You should also check out Wong Sheung Leung lineage which is know for being very practical.
    Personally I practice Choy Sheung Ting, Ip ching and WSL. All of them having their own stromg points.
    Have a nice evening!

  • @diarioshanghainese4791
    @diarioshanghainese4791 3 роки тому +3

    in our lineage siu nim tao is a complete form to train right position (of your elbow, allignment, train tendons and much more) but not a kata (i come from karate). We have angles and stepping and that guard stance you see in many fight i would never use it as well. Besides, according to my teacher (in HK) Ip Man never ever taught a stance, so in my opinion and experience "be like water" comes from Ip Man.
    Cheers

    • @yip2454
      @yip2454 3 роки тому

      you can do siu nim tao perfectly but if you dont spar you wont know what works for you and what wont work. and of course the fight experience and how its like to take a hit

  • @hankwatt
    @hankwatt 3 роки тому

    I love how headbutts are on the table!

  • @Yoandrys23
    @Yoandrys23 3 роки тому +6

    So, practically modern western boxing.

    • @cuzen2ownage
      @cuzen2ownage 3 роки тому +3

      @@AztecUnshaven Give it a rest dude... Wing chun is a joke any boxer would slap up any Wing chun joker

    • @PaulGappyNorris
      @PaulGappyNorris 3 роки тому +2

      @@AztecUnshaven - the plural of anecdote is not data. There is no evidence anywhere on the web that suggests wing chun has a practical use in the ring, cage or on the street. In all cases where ‘wing chun’ has been touted as a success the individual supposedly using it has reverted to reckless swinging or boxing-style punches.

    • @lionsden4563
      @lionsden4563 3 роки тому +1

      To put it bluntly, traditional Wing Chun doesn't work.

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 3 роки тому

      @@PaulGappyNorris "the plural of anecdote is not data" you nailed it. So true

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 3 роки тому +1

      @@AztecUnshaven by "a British Boxer" you mean a 17 year old school champion, not a pro boxer. And it was a points victory at that

  • @hankwatt
    @hankwatt 3 роки тому

    I got a lot out of this! 🙌 Why am I surprised?!

  • @PooleAcademyofWingChun
    @PooleAcademyofWingChun 3 роки тому

    60/40 stance can also be useful in certain situations

    • @akaalisbenjamin2093
      @akaalisbenjamin2093 2 роки тому

      Not ideal for instant and all-time mobility though. Especially if you'd like to have evasive footwork.

  • @beautifulmusicchanneluk
    @beautifulmusicchanneluk 2 роки тому

    really similar to PWC with its adaptions.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 3 роки тому

    Carry a footlong thin sharp screwdriver in pocket W/ shirt untucked. I left it in there on accident after adjusting my sprinkler heads.
    Go for throat/eyes.

  • @WingChunCouncil
    @WingChunCouncil 3 роки тому

    My humble opinion, if I can, is that this teacher mixes concepts and principles that are valid in sport, but which on the street are difficult to apply and vice versa. Theoretically, his speech works, but in practice it would have many problems.

  • @kuji-in-deed369
    @kuji-in-deed369 3 роки тому

    Omg. I’m so glad to see that others have figured it out. What’s crazy is that it’s not hard to figure it out. Think realistically. Use common sense. The main problem with most most martial arts is that they are hell bent on traditionalism instead of preparing the students for the reality of combat. This is why they didn’t want westerners to learn in the past. Not only do foreigners have an advantage of height and build but also the rebellious nature to not do as they’re told can, in some cases, develop the style into something better than the original form. Bruce Lee was on the right path.

  • @canaldesugestoesa6651
    @canaldesugestoesa6651 3 роки тому

    these wing chun arms play which are an exercise, can be adapted to a takedown defense, as we can fend off the opponent.

  • @GreenLighterStudios
    @GreenLighterStudios 3 роки тому +3

    If every adjustment you make to wing Chun to make it more effective just makes it look more like modern striking, why not just learn modern striking?

    • @lionsden4563
      @lionsden4563 3 роки тому +2

      True.

    • @nathantheophilus4856
      @nathantheophilus4856 3 роки тому

      Yeah i had issue with this too.. if it ends up looking like boxing with extra steps why start with wing chun and adopt boxing principles, instead of starting with boxing's bread and butter fundamentals THEN add the trapping and chain punches?? Not hating but quite an odd thing to see.

  • @katze97
    @katze97 3 роки тому +1

    The oblique stance, agile footwork, ambidextrous stances are just JKD or how Bruce Lee made WC more robust. I did 8 years of WC and then started learning jkd from Inosanto lineage which I then realised JKD is just Lee making WC more robust for the street

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER 2 роки тому

    6:46 AMBIDEXTROUS 😉

  • @cbrotherwood
    @cbrotherwood 3 роки тому +1

    Bruce Lee, “says stop trying to make up applications for traditional BS and just do what works in a fight.”

  • @channel-nv9xc
    @channel-nv9xc 2 роки тому

    This must be the William Cheung branch of Wing Chun. Sounds like his principles.
    For whatever it's worth, Thai boxers place more weight on their rear leg so they can maintain their balance if they take a leg kick to their front leg (the most common target for leg kicks). I tend to stay 50/50 except for when I spar Thai boxers or MMA types. Then I lean back more so it's harder for them to sweep me if they catch my front leg.

  • @KingoftheJiangl
    @KingoftheJiangl 3 роки тому +1

    Nah.
    The taichi technique is more legit by virtue of position. Why would you want to be right in front of your opponent rather than taking their back like this wing chun way? That's just assuming there isn't a cross ready to return fire to your face

  • @W8OTW
    @W8OTW 6 місяців тому

    All of the adaptation of wing chun presented here is pretty much just jun fan gung fu. Saying there is only 1 fight range (the fight) i get but thats a level where tools have dissolved into formlessness. Telling a new student that ,i dont feel will help them understand execution of different ranges and how to learn to move through them and eventually dissolve. Good adaptations but again alot of this is jun fan 101 🤟🙏

  • @juliuscross3324
    @juliuscross3324 3 роки тому +1

    He is right about the razor though.

  • @LRkun
    @LRkun 3 роки тому +3

    He's adapted and made wing Chun a bit like jet kun do. It's probably the right direction. Comes with experience

    • @peterwang5660
      @peterwang5660 3 роки тому

      Well, JKD was just Bruce lees conclusions for himself moving from Hong Kong to the States and back and forth and meeting so many people.
      Might not be the ultimate universal truth.

  • @ceemee1430
    @ceemee1430 5 місяців тому

    Does this count as “modified” WC?
    Jk, luckily my Sifu was a boxer first, so he didn’t need someone to teach him how to fight AND additionally learn a martial art.
    They are the same thing if that’s what they are for.

  • @eylon1967
    @eylon1967 3 роки тому

    Oh no he said the "I'm just gonna headbutt you"

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 3 роки тому

    If you're defending, you're not attacking.

  • @judosailor610
    @judosailor610 3 роки тому +4

    I’ve always felt that wing chun looks like someone took boxing and removed everything about it that makes it effective. Nice balanced stance with knees flexed naturally? No, let’s bring our feet parallel and point our knees awkwardly inwards. Hooks and uppercuts to the temple, side of the jaw and kidneys? Nah, let’s just use straight punches down the centerline. Use hips and shoulders to generate force? Nope, we’ll just do super fast arm punches. 😂.
    That said, the more you make wing chun effective through pressure testing and borrowing from what we know works, the more it just starts to look like boxing/kickboxing again. So, what’s the point? Regardless, this guy lost me when he said it’s common for guys in New York to carry razor blades in their mouths. 🙄

    • @judosailor610
      @judosailor610 3 роки тому +2

      @@AztecUnshaven That was a common urban legend in the hood back in the day! Lol. And I’ve seen plenty of WC. Those chain punches? Strictly arm.

    • @florisvanlingen
      @florisvanlingen 3 роки тому +1

      You seem to have a few misunderstandings concerning wing-chun. Probably because you have seen the crap that is on youtube.
      Just know that what you stated is not true. Wing chun uses body rotation and the timing of stepping and punching to get the momentum of the body into the punch. The waist plays the most important role in this. Strikes are not always straight but do travel towards the opponent's centre.
      About the stance, I don't think you know what the fighting stance is you refer to a training stance meant to isolate arm techniques so you cannot compensate with the legs.

    • @judosailor610
      @judosailor610 3 роки тому +2

      @@AztecUnshaven See, this is why I have a trouble believing that there’s guys somewhere that somehow make wing chun work so much better despite the fact that every time I’ve ever seen it used it, essentially, doesn’t work. And what I’m referring to is of course your reference to Bruce Lee. He didn’t “smash“ anyone. He won on points in what seems to have been a really uneventful fight. Not to mention, it took place when both of them were in high school. So you have literally two kids in an underage, low level, amateur boxing tournament. Really doesn’t show anything other than that Lee was probably the more aggressive fighter in a match where, otherwise, nothing really happened.
      And, bruh, think about what you are saying with this razor blade thing. You are believing that someone took an exposed razor blade, carried it in their mouth by tucking it up against their cheek in between their cheek and gums, and that they did this without managing to cut the inside of their mouth to ribbons. Furthermore, you are then believing that they were able to easily, and more importantly, very quickly reach into their mouth, pull out the razor blade and attack someone with it, again without cutting the inside of their mouth to ribbons. That’s literally absurd. It doesn’t make any sense. And it never happened. It’s just an urban legend. And as someone that worked in prison as a CO, I can assure you those guys are some of the biggest bullshitter‘s out there, and they’re always trying to make themselves sound tougher than they really are. Ironically, they are also some of the most gullible when it comes to believing stories like this.

    • @judosailor610
      @judosailor610 3 роки тому +2

      @@florisvanlingen And your response is always what I get. “You haven’t seen the real wing Chun. It’s out there! You won’t find it in videos on UA-cam. I can’t show it to you. But trust me, it exists!“ lol. And the debate really should end there. But for the record, chain punches are arm punches. There’s literally no way you could punch like that and get your body behind it. Also, wing Chun infamously (and I am referring, for example, to Bruce Lee’s complaints about it) doesn’t have hooks or upper cuts. I know maybe since then some guys have started including them. And that’s probably good, but I’m talking about traditional wing Chun.

    • @florisvanlingen
      @florisvanlingen 3 роки тому +1

      @@judosailor610 I cannot help it wing-chun has been wattered down a lot. You can think of it what you want but you shouldnt go around telling people what is and what isnt in wing-chun if you don't understand it.
      If you don't like wing-chun and do not train in it what is the point debating about it. It's not like its affecting what you are doing. Why do you feel the need to talk down on stuff you do not even understand. Just go practice your hooks and uppercut's instead and leave what wing-chun is to people that actually put in the time and effort to understand it.

  •  3 роки тому +7

    Just learn boxing....

    • @lionsden4563
      @lionsden4563 3 роки тому

      True.

    • @webblesworld
      @webblesworld Рік тому

      Boxing is very predictable which wouldn’t be very good for someone who wants to end the fight quickly

    • @Bevallalom
      @Bevallalom Рік тому

      Try jumping around in a pub group fight, with tables, chairs and slippery floor. Good luck

  • @silverfox8801
    @silverfox8801 3 роки тому

    Okay 👍 now let’s see a hard spar so we can see how this works? 👍👍

  • @Eternaprimavera73
    @Eternaprimavera73 3 роки тому

    really true, i do exactly the same, but the admin of this channel will be always so clever, and intellectually not honest, to indicate a person who chain punches square as a representative of the chunners world.
    He looks like it is the 1st time he sees a chunner not square...but man, square is the beginning, like siu nim tao, to make a geometry visible.
    I do more or less like the video, with some minor difference. Because when you kick, or when you push for some reason, the weight cannot be 50 50,
    And the kick is a weapon that comes at a bigger distance than punching with 50 50 weight.

  • @Baso-sama
    @Baso-sama 10 місяців тому

    the rigid stance only really works against other wing chun practicioners or other kung fu styles. if (from a traditional chinese standpoint) you meet unorthodoxy in the streets, the correct answer is to be unorthodox yourself and weave in the skills you picked up during practice. i practiced wing chun similarly to how Sifu Redmond explained here and i was constantly picked on by the seniors at practice because of my unprincipled stances and movements. however it was always close enough to carry on the essence so it worked against them too just well enough. now of course a more experienced fighter could knock me out good for sure, i'm not that guy, but at least i can hold my own good enough to ward off some of what the streets can throw at me.

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER 2 роки тому

    I thought that was PROHAUSKA the UFC FIGHTER. ❤lol looked like him.

  • @driver3899
    @driver3899 3 роки тому +1

    You should train your guard and stance the way you intend to use it in a fight
    Having two different stances and two different guards (one for class that you always use and one for fighting that you rarely use) is a real bad idea

    • @lionsden4563
      @lionsden4563 3 роки тому +1

      Correct.

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 3 роки тому

      @@lionsden4563 Nice to have an actual fighter agree

  • @princesarma9273
    @princesarma9273 3 роки тому

    Ancient greek boxing + 52 blocks = modern wingchun, i guess.

  • @tubesism
    @tubesism 3 роки тому

    No way guys are actually walking around with razors in their mouth that is just insane!

  • @delroiflood6850
    @delroiflood6850 3 роки тому

    Popular wing chun?Most wing chun people fight square?Name one.

  • @yussuqmadiq5274
    @yussuqmadiq5274 3 роки тому

    His angled stance Wing Chun kinda look like a Pantukan of Kali.

  • @robwest2190
    @robwest2190 3 роки тому +2

    To be honest this is just more of the same old Wing Chun "theory" that I see from William Cheung and the others. Makes sense in slow motion and biomechanically but doesn't work under pressure and what's worse is almost never pressure tested. ( Don't believe me? Try it against a boxer and see how well it works)

  • @patrickrobles1036
    @patrickrobles1036 3 роки тому

    I think the majority of Wing Chun people out there have mistaken the abstraction of the teaching for the reality of the application. In other words, if it looks like your forms you're doing it wrong.

    • @quickstep2408
      @quickstep2408 3 роки тому

      i agree. but there's actually vids of wing chunners using strict, traditional form and being mostly dominate against sport karateka. the karateka didn't know how to handle them even though it was all centre-line mentality where the chunner would just instantly advance and maul the opponent lol. not much fighting strategy though, just overwhelm your target, that's it.

  • @nicolasbouchard6331
    @nicolasbouchard6331 3 роки тому

    More of a pak Mei mentality and stance I've always used more of a karate side stance while doing wing Chun bc in a real figth u want a lower arm to defend ur legs n chest while still having a fast block to protect ur face and I think that way the techniques and mentality works better bc the stance is just more useful than a chi style one witch should only be use to commit to a technique and then switch back u should move trough stance while fighting keeping the flow ur trough

  • @vincespell
    @vincespell 3 роки тому

    Wing Chun needed adjustments, but once you make those adjustments it becomes more like traditional boxing and then it loses it's original content but maybe that's what was needed.

  • @grongrod
    @grongrod 3 роки тому

    Carying razorblades in your mouth?? Is this a thing now on the street? Seems a little risky...

  • @bw5020
    @bw5020 2 роки тому

    This guy is a good example of what happens when you defeat from being a slave to form. You're not doing yourself any favors by adhering to training so narrow mindedly, that you throw sensible application out with the bathwater.

  • @bugs4680
    @bugs4680 3 роки тому

    excellent aforementioned time and time again that for Wing Chun to function on the streets or even in the ring it must be modified I am not a pure Wing Chun practitioner although I have some concepts I use I am not a pure boxer either I also use Concepts of boxing I train self defense only for now , it is important if you train or compete in combat sports, please do think sport think hurt maime and escape if you are in a situation where you have to defend yourself against some nut or even blowhard neighbors , also important to get the hell out of there as quick as possible don't get arrested I've learned that the hard way guy sucker-punched me I was able to recover enough to fight back, he pressed charges I thought self defense, the judge thought I went overboard , so it's so hard to balance all of these things , I still train some Concepts traditional martial arts I took a good hard look at all my weaknesses I identified my strengths which led me to bjj and some wrestling I did boxing karate and Judo as a kid no training to be a complete fighter really really important you don't want to get on the ground if you could help it to know bjj even alittle gives you chance for a cross collar or a sweep of some sort God bless everyone sincerely

  • @ikapatino3214
    @ikapatino3214 2 роки тому

    So basically boxing.

  • @ShadowkingX
    @ShadowkingX 3 роки тому

    Has a lot of good points that I agree with
    But to say there's no diffrent ranges is stupid. There are different ranges and only you can only use certain Techniques in certain ranges effectively. If your grappling your not going to try and throw a side kick? Why? Because it's not effective for that range. There is long mid and close ranged combat