Bergara Just Released 3 New Rifles!
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Bergara announced three new rifles: The Bergara B14 Squared Crest, The Bergara Wilderness Ridge Carbon, and the Bergara HMR Carbon.
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*Cries in left handed*
Wipes butt with right hand tho
@@streetrage8694 nope can't even pick my nose right handed
Be better, I guess
Same
Scoffs in right handed
The barrel stiffness is more a function of geometry than total material mass. They maintain a larger diameter for the same mass, so there’s a definite stiffness boost.
Oh yea. Mines a 7mag!! Like god intended!! 💪🇺🇸💯
Disappointed…..why no carbon fiber stock & carbon fiber barrel to compete with the Springfield 2020? Why dance around the competition?
Still like the savage 110 ultralight. Great for back country hunting. Knock is on the stock, how do you beat the barrel, trigger, adjustable stock options, weight, accuracy, and chamber options for the price point. Cerakote the stock if you don't like the looks.
Ron I got a 110 savage ultra light in 6.5 prc yesterday its a dam good light gun in camo. 1k. How can u beat it with carbon barell
Yeah, I’m not sure why he said this Bergera was the least expensive carbon barreled rifle when the 110 is still less and he owns one…. Guessing he got $ from Bergara
Or dip
Was hoping to see one in 7prc
The hmr pro has been a great rig. Would be great to see their carbon wrapped barrels become available.
The Savage 110 Ultralite comes with a carbon fiber wrapped barrel and goes on sale for around $950. Just an FYI since you were mentioning Bergara undercutting other manufacturers prices.
I actually tagged you in the Bergera post about the Crest model and how much you would love it, especially when they eventually chamber it in 7 PRC a day or two ago.
Some folks actually like a heavier weight model especially when it comes to magnum cartridges so they have the power but a more stable platform for those shots past 300 - 400 yards that can present themselves in the backcountry. Then cut weight elsewhere. To each their own on their preferred style.
A Savage 110 Ultralight is a carbon fiber barreled rifle in the same price point as the Ridge Carbon but with a more plastic feeling stock. But weighs a pound less than the Ridge.
I can’t wait to see what you share with us from Shot Show. I wish that I could be there instead of working at a boring retail store like Menards
Good points. I do think the Crest is right up my alley.
I'd be interested if they'd CHAMBER FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN 6.5!! 😡 COMON!
Give us 280 Ackley. Give us .30-06. Give us 7mm-08. Give us .270 Win. Give us .300 PRC. Give us 7mm PRC.
I own and love several Bergara rifles. All of them are shooters and I've never had any issues with the rifles themselves. My only complaint has been the weight. Packing a Bergara up and down the mountains with a suppressor has been less than ideal. I'm glad they've been listening to their customers about shaving weight!!!
Happy b14r owner wish they would offer metal mags n staked ejector though
I just swapped from a Begara b14 to the sig cross. The only reason was WEIGHT then they dropped these haha. I loved my Begara
The fluting is a way to add some stiffness of a heavier barrel without all the weight of a heavier barrel. Fluting really doesn’t do much for cooling down a barrel (it adds a little surface area which helps but not significantly). It’s the same principle behind why civil engineers use I-beams instead of a fully filled rectangular beam.
I figured it was to add extra diameter for threading/suppressor, but still trying to keep weight a bit lower with the flutes. Can’t thread a pencil barrel.
The Springfield Waypoint 2020 is in the Crest price range if you get the steel barrel. I recently bought one partially because of the review on the channel. It has been an absolute killer in 6MM Creedmoor for Coyotes and is very very accurate even with factory loads I've been using. This Crest looks to be similar and similarly priced.
I haven't yet seen the 2020 Waypoint in a steel barrel. They announced those at launch two years ago, but I haven't yet seen one in the wild. Good to know that they're shipping.
@@backfire I was looking for a 6mm creed for a while and then I got lucky and found this one at Gunnies in Orem. Its one of their first steel barrel models because the new ones have a colored ceracoat while mine is black. I paid $1650 for it so in that same ball park as this crest.
@@wildernessgreggoodfellow2269 I got lucky last year and scored the Carbon barreled waypoint in 6.5 Creedmoor for $1850 in a Gun broker Auction
Both the gun shops in my town have offering for both waypoints. I considered both but ended up walking out with the 6.5PRC in carbon barrel. It’s sweet!
Isn’t the ridge carbon like the savage 110 ultralight ?
I saw a brief flash that ONE Bergara is left-handed (LH) but you didn't mention it. MY REQUEST is that you do a video on ALL the available LH rifles, especially bolt guns (since all lever guns can be shot either way). With 15+% of all shooters being LH and some of us RH shooters are left-eye dominant, the paucity of LH guns is disheartening, even if it takes more engineering and would have a slightly higher retail cost.
Sometimes it sucks being left handed. That Crest looks really nice :(
Hi Jim, big fan of the Chanel! Can you make a video talking about reloading? I’m considering starting. Pros/cons to buying factory vs. reloading, Do’s and Don’ts, and any tips you would give to someone just starting out.
Happy new year and keep up the great work!
I have a B-14 HMR 6.5 creedmoor with an EOtech Vudu 3.5-18. Thing does weigh a lot but it’s super accurate!
i have the .308 version and it's more accurate than I will ever be. Perfect for my bench shooting and once a year deer hunt my son takes.
im getting a browning x-bolt hells canyon bolt action in 308 winchester and i hunt mostly whitetail what is the best bullet and grain that would work best for whitetail for this gun
I'd look at any of the 150gr bullets designed for the job. Sierra, Nosler, Hornady all have good options.
federal fusion is a good whitetail bullet
I’m very interested in this Crest model I need to find one first so I can feel it. I’m one of those guys 😂
I'm looking forward to handling that crest model at shot show.
Next year carbon stock carbon barrel, sounds like car manufacturers, new model no fog lights , next year all new model, same crap with fog lights!
For few bucks more I can get proof reserch carbon barel and carbon stock from mdt,
So true!
I love my Bergara, but for the love of all that is holy, please get rid of the swivel studs and put in a couple of M-LOK slots. It's 2023. No one should be attaching a bipod using swivel studs.
Amen.
if you are familiar with metal you would come to learn that a flat sheet of metal or a round tube becomes much stronger and stiffer if you add feature lines to the metal, you take a door shell of a car and add feature lines in the metal it makes the panel stronger and stiffer, the same thing with a round tube, if you flute a gun barrel you actually add much more tensile strength to the tube itself as opposed to just a round tube, and you also increase the amount of square inches of outer area available for air cooling ,, that is shy companies flute barrels
Well said
You are forgetting the Howa Elevate. Cheaper than these bergara.
Depending on the fluting pattern I think it actually add to the rigidity. You’ve got increased surface area, with radii that conflict with the radius of the barrel, there are a number of factors, but I remember reading somewhere that one of the benefits of fluting is increased rigidity. I’m no physicist though, so idk for sure.
I have argued this before years ago, but I really don't know. My argument was they put flutes in columns to increase rigidity. Why would it not help a rifle barrel?
@@albertlemont5471 that’s funny. Roman pillars are the other primary example that came to mind.
Yeah, the further from the bore axis the material is, the more the material resists bending. It's why we use I-beams to build large buildings and tube framing to build race car cages/chassis. I-beams and tubes are much stronger for the same cross-sectional surface area than just a solid bar of steel.
Removing material doesn't increase rigidity. What you do have is increased rigidity over the same weight unfluted barrel.
@@anthonykaiser974 it’s not just removing material, (depending on the pattern) it’s adding a series convex radii to the barrel which is structurally stronger than a solid cylinder. I’m no engineer, but I know a few and I’m discussing architecture and other non-firearm related topics, radii are added to or built into materials to make them stronger. I don’t know all the answers, but it is interesting to consider. I’ll have to do some more dogging.
Engineering note on fluted barrels, your increasing moment of inertia of the barrel section resulting in a stiffer barrel per weight of barrel
Just purchased a Beraga B14 Crest in 6.5 CM and it is in transit. Should have my hands on the rifle very soon. Thanks for the reviews and looking forward to your hands on full review of the Crest.
any feedback?
Just picked mine up in 308. Still have to get out and shoot it but overall feel is amazing. Switched the brake out for a recoil hawg though.
We demand a test of straight-pull rifles. New Savage, Browning Maral + top 2 germans: Blaser R8 + Merkel Helix Speedster. Keep it up!
They aren't very popular here in the usa. I tried the new Savage Impulse and absolutely HATED it. It's extremely heavy, was cumbersome to use, and the improvement in bolt movement seems minor. I don't think that Browning released the Maral for the US market. Sorry! I wish I could get my hands on them all, but I don't think I'll be able to. I'll keep my eyes open at shot show, though. Maybe they'll be there.
Little out of reach considering even a Cheap Blaser is still $5900
@@backfire I just really like your reviews. I have Merkel and Blaser and these are basically one-rifle-for-all systems. I just plan to move to the USA and wonder how they find themselves in different types of hunting that you have. Nevertheless, I'm waiting for your episode about the straight-pull rifles. Thanks for the answer. All clear.
Guess I know what I’m gonna get for my Bday: wilderness HMR in 308 with carbon wrapped barrel 😊😊😊😊 ❤
That'll be a happy birthday :-)
Just bought my B14 HMR last Friday. But ultimately its the price that sold me on it. Neat offerings but out of my price range.
You should love it. I love mine in .308.
Would love to see the Crest with a carbon barrel. That would it make "real" lightweight. Handled it a few months ago at my gunsmiths Shop and the weight didn't felt like a carbonstock rifle should feel. (The crest is avialable in Europe since about 6-8 months)
Oh, didn’t realize that it was out in Europe. What specifically felt weird to you?
@@backfireIts a cool rifle and i was thinking of buying one. I really liked the feel and lines of the stock, it feels like good quality. But i didn't like the heavy contoured barrel in addition to the carbonstock. The rifle weighs like 3.2kg, thats heavier than lets say a standart Tikka T3x. So that kind of put me off of buying one.
Just a heads up for reloaders. I've been seriously looking at the Bergara b14 lineup in a 7prc and in reading Bergara's user manual found online under their warranty is says the following:
and for those who'd desire to harass me for a specific reference from Bergara - its on page 32. Quote: "...below will also void the warranty:....use of impropper ammunition (e.g. ...reloaded ammunition, ...)."
Just something to be aware of if you reload, which I do.
Uhhhhh.....the Savage 110 Ultralight is MADE IN THE USA coming in at 5.8 lbs., has 9 caliber offerings, has the Proof Research carbon wrapped stainless barrel, with a melonite receiver. Just an awesome, ridiculously accurate rifle, and you can buy one for under $1300 if you know where to look (I did). I will always support an American firearms manufacturer over the imports, plain and simple. I'd like this channel a lot more if you did too. For 8 lb. rifles, my Savage 110 Timberline, fully cerakoted and threaded, cost me $1025. I shoot sub 1/2 MOA groups all day with 143 grain Hornady ELDX. Nothing Bergara makes interests me at all over American made options.
Oh.....and another company (like CVA) that doesn't care too much for the lefty shooters. There are millions of us.
but the 110s look so goofy even the deer will laugh at you in the woods carrying that thing around
@@lycheeznuts
Then it gets shot through the eye at 300 yards lol. That barrel is accurate af.
@@e7tegt503 it's still a savage action though
I have a Ridgeline my ca i wonder ca vs bergara vs proof ????????
1 knock that should be added is the bolts in these guns are weak in my opinion. My extractor just broke Friday night. My rifle has only had 80 or so rounds down the pipe. This failure really doesn’t promote reliability or confidence in me
Great updates! Would love a review of them and especially the CVT XT. I see it added a muzzle break, heavier barrel but fluted. $769 on Sportsmans now. I am curious how it will do with accuracy vs. standard hunting rifles in that sub $900.
So you’re telling me I can get a bergara with a carbon barrel for less than a savage with a carbon barrel! What a time to be alive! But bergara please add the 280 ai back to your lineups
I dragged my 4 kids to Ten Lakes - Yosemite, at the time my youngest Will was 10 and his pack was 20 lbs. my 12 year old daughters 22 lbs, my 14 year old sons pack was 30 lbs, my 18 year old daughters pack was 25 lbs, my wife’s pack was 30 lbs, I do hear you that a 10 lb rifle would make zero sense for 6.5 creedmore, or for individuals of small stature, but at 6’3” 205, and 200lbs grip pressure even in each hand, not silver spoon fed lifestyle I can thank our good Lord for not noticing what others say is heavy, whether rifle weight or trigger pull, it’s all relative. In 300 win mag at 10 lbs it just makes sense
Any chance of a B-14 Squared Crest 6.5 PRC review....as I think on paper seems similar to Springfield Waypoint 2020 and the Fierce Rival. Thoughts?
WHERE IS THE 7MM PRC????
👍👍
Just bought the B14 wilderness carbon in 300 win. Hopefully it's as accurate as everybody says it is
Wander why not put the carbon barrel on the model with the carbon stock ?
For and elk hunt. Bergara crest 6.5 prc or Springfield armory waypoint 2020. Need help deciding.
What I want is the wilderness carbon barrel in the squared carbon stock, so I can put my massive heavy USoptics 22x50 on it.
9.5 lbs is heavy? *Laughs in PRS rifles.
Haha. Yeah, for a PRS rifle it's a lightweight, but for hunting... :-)
Why didn't they release a rifle that has _both_ a carbon fiber stock and a carbon fiber wrapped barrel?
I wonder if some low level middle management guy working for Bergara got himself fired for asking this question. You know, making the upper management feel stupid for not thinking of this themselves. Then they just got obstinate and refused to release that model.
I have a legit question: What would you recommend? Buying a gun like B14 Crest, that has nice lines, good stock, nice barrel and all from factory. Or would you reccomend buying cheaper version of Bergara rifle (like basic hunter or ridge) and buying aftermarket stock like KRG Bravo or any for that matter to make it similar to Crest or HMR in function?
This^
No carbon stock/carbon barrel offering? Seems like a huge missed opportunity for what would probably be their most popular rifle. Especially on a premiere action
Do you know if the Bergara B-14 Timber is offered in left-handed rifles in the American market? It says the Timber can be left-handed, but l haven't seen it online on gun retailer sites yet.
Haven’t seen a left hand one y
Just a quick response to your comment on fluting on the barrel. Going to a thicker contour barrel and then fluting it can give you a barrel of the same weight but increase it's rigidity and cooling properties. If you are not looking to increase weight but wanted to stiffen the barrel and increase cooling, this is how you do it.
There is a weird phenomenon going on with bergaras. The vast majority of people using them sounds very satisfied, often reporting custom rifle like accuracy. But on several forums sometimes a few "influent" guys pop up and literally start throwing s..t to bergara, with a lot of hanger and committment, getting even to say that these rifles are so bad that they would never own or work on one or even use parts for builds. To me it seems that these guys are actively trying to bash Bergara, maybe on the payroll of someone who could benefit from this. Emotional involvement in defending something we like is understandable, emotional involvement and committment in bashing a brand is more difficult to undestand if there is not some interest on the table. It wouldn't be the first time anyway
Gun companies have been making light weight mountain rifles for over 70 years that are also very accurate. Why would anyone want to tote a heavy tactical type of rifle with big heavy scopes up and down mountains for days looking for sheep or goats is beyond me. Pick the right tool for the job and save yourself some money and pain.
Savage 110 ultralites are found around 1100-1200 all day? Ya you get a better stock and action with the bergara, but it isn’t the only carbon barrel rifle for less than 1500
Bergara HMR carbon wilderness in 6.5 creedmoor? I dont see it in a 20 inch anywhere. If anyone has a model number or upc code?
If I work out, I can carry that extra 2 pounds and the 10 pounds my wallet will have left in it
Springfield 2020 Waypoint is cheaper if you get the steel barrel version and you still get a carbon fiber stock
Get Bergara to make you a riffle with the carbon fiber Crest stock and the Carbon fiber wrapped barrel. I mean, come on Bergara... It's a no brainer!
I really really think that the short barrel trend is silly.
Every one screems “more performance” with th cartridges, and then goes and weigh the cartridges performance down by using a short barrel
So in 3 different releases they change either the stock or the barrel to Carbon. Why not have a single rifle that has a Carbon stock AND a Carbon barrel? That would be the lightest -- no?
I don't think I'll ever own a Bergara. However, those are some sweet rifles.
I will buy either a Crest or the Waypoint in 7MM PRC or 300 PRC. Just waiting to see who releases it first. Already have a Waypoint in 6.5 PRC and love it.
Me too and I love it!
@Backfire You ever shot a McWhorter rifle? I hear they're pretty awesome, and for the money, they'd better be.
Any review on the 2024 b14 crest squared carbon with the carbon barrel
Great video. I wonder, though, why is everybody so excited about their carbon fiber when Savage and others have already been doing it?
Rifles such as these are mostly going to be fired at the range from a bench or prone. Weight has its advantage for this type of shooting, it helps to keep your scope on target so you can see your hits. These are not rifles that you hump up mountains to shoot goats. So why would anyone pay hundreds of dollars more for a rifle that is anywhere from .5 to 1.5 pounds lighter when it is not going to benefit you in the type of shooting you are going to do?
Fluting adds rigidity as well as surface area for cooling while minimizing weight.
Respectfully, I don't think fluting adds rigidity. How could it? It's removing material. If it were the same barrel contour but without those grooves cut out, it'd be even more rigid.
@@backfire The "ribs" add rigidity. We used to put these on our field rifles since we would carry them for days on end. Our urban/hostage guns we left them round. So technically you are correct they are not more rigid than a bull at the same diameter of the outer circumference, but they are functionally as stiff as the full barrel but with less weight and better cooling secondary to surface area.
@@backfire It's one of those relative discussions. Is it a thinner barrel with added ribs or a thicker barrel with less mass? I'd say it's a compromise between a thin or thick barrel. To be honest for hunting you're not shooting a high number of rounds (assuming deer not prairie dogs), I'd go for the lighter option. Disclaimer I'm not a hunter 😉
Please review the Christensen arms Mesa FFT. 5.5LB rifle in the $1500 range.
Another rifle that's actually lighter n lil better is the weatherby vanguard talon. And it's similar price
Please ask Bergara when they will have a 7mm PRC!
I'm looking for a bergara rifle in 280 AI but I can't seem to find one anywhere.
Bought my savage 110 ultralite with a proof barrel for 1300 but other than that idk
You must not have seen the new begara divide, or canyon models
the carbon compared to savage 110 ultra lite with proof carbon barrel a good comparison
Ordered a B14 Wilderness Sierra in 22-250.
Being a 20 inch did i go wrong.
What about the savage ultralite? Weighs less than all of them and has carbon fiber wrapped barrel
The Savage 110 Ultralite is basically the same price as that Ridge Carbon
Got both of my ultralites for $1,100 each. Savage is definitely cheaper but you’ll get a better action from the Bergara. No idea how their carbon barrels will hold up.
I love bargaras
And a heavy gun does not bother me.. light guns that don’t last and break easy do
What about the savage 110 carbon tactical rifles they are in about the same price range
Howa carbon is in that price, savage ultra light is in that price range for the ridge carbon
Please review the hmr, it’s a great rifle
Fluting of heavier barrels retains stiffness! I'm an engineer, so believe me.
The HMR Carbon Wilderness is now available in 7 PRC!
It'd be nice if cva made their rifles accept A1CS mags
Waiting for Bergara or Tikka chambered in 7mm PRC
Can you do a video on the istanbul silah monza 308 win 🙏🏻
Very nice offering I plan to test the B14 HMR Wilderness on my channel in 300 PRC I am so excited to finally get my hands on one. Now I want one from the new line up
missed the boat not offering it in 7mmPRC out of the gate IMO
What happened to the Christensen MHR that was suppose to come out??
Pretty sure fluting still helps the barrel stay more rigid compared to thinner profile barrel and at least providing more surface for cooling...
So fluting removes material from a barrel. If we're talking about a barrel that still has that steel in it, vs one of the same contour with that material removed for fluting, it couldn't be MORE rigid, right?
@@backfire Sorry for the poor writing. Most likely the barrel will be less rigid compared to before the flying but compared to a thinner barrel I'm sure you get a few advantages. I edited my comment a little...
Can you review the Bergara ba13 TD please
Chrsitensen Arms Mesa FFT, Metal Barrel and Carbon Fiber stock
Savage Arms, Ultralight streets price between $1500-1650
Why can’t we get the carbon stock with the carbon barrel?
There’s a savage with a carbon barrel for about 1k
I would rather see 24 and 26 inch barrels.
Hey, so I just watched you video (amongst others) on the Waypoint and was sold....then I see this from Bergara. Now Im really torn!!! Great videos, thanks
Dont cancel the planet fitness membership
I wish they had lefty options
Your thoughts on the begara ridge in 7mm.
Not impressed. Got3 guns from them all heavy...wow take off a lb and charge 800 dollars and no offering in 7 prc I got 3 boxes of ammo now can't find a gun
Hold on a moment! I know of 2 rifles that are less expensive, with Carbon fiber.
The Howa 1500 Carbon Stalker - $975 - comes with a carbon stock and a steel barrel, Short and Long Action models come in at 6.2lbs, the Mini Action models in 4lbs 10 oz. Can get them in a lot of cartridges from .223 up to .300 Win Mag.
Howa 1500 Carbon Elevate - $1300 - 4lbs 13oz, has a carbon stock and barrel. Only comes in 6.5 Creed, .308, 6.5 PRC and 6.5 Grendel though.