Lever Gun Shootout: Marlin vs Smith & Wesson
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The Marlin Dark Series 1895 and the Smith & Wesson Model 1854 are two exemplary lever action rifles that we tested this year. Read our review of the full field of the rifles of 2024 and see how we tested them here: www.outdoorlif...
Marlin Dark Series 1895 Specs
• Action: Lever action
• Stock: Synthetic butt with aluminum handguard
• Cartridge: .45/70 Gov’t
• Capacity: 5+1
• Weight: 6 pounds, 13 ounces (measured)
• Trigger: 6 pounds, 4 ounces (measured)
• Barrel: 16.17 inches, 1:20 twist, threaded 11/16-24
• Length: 35 1/2 inches
• Price: $1,429
• 5-Shot Group Average: 1.284 inches, 24 total groups (50 yards)
• Accuracy Notes: As with the other lever-actions the data here is from 50 yards shooting from the standing position off a support bag on a tripod. We were all really impressed with how well the Barnes 300-grainers shot. In .45/70 it delivers a devastating wallop, whether you’re chasing a deer in the timber or trying to stop a grizzly charging at you from a willow thicket.
Smith & Wesson Model 1854 Specs
• Action: Lever action
• Stock: Synthetic
• Cartridge: .44 Magnum
• Capacity: 9+1
• Weight: 6 pounds, 12 ounces (measured)
• Trigger: 4 pounds, 7 ounces (measured)
• Barrel: 19.25 inches; 1:20 twist; threaded 11/16-24
• Length: 36 inches
• Price: $1,279
• 5-Shot Group Average: 1.80 inches, 30 total groups (50 yards)
• Accuracy Notes: The data here is with groups shot at 50 yards. With a mean radius of .5 inches you can be confident in tackling any game within the effective range of a .44 Magnum. This rifle more than meets the standard of the lever-action platform.
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Comparing 2 totally different guns. A 45-70 vs a 44mag.? Throwing a large rifle caliber usually requires a heavier, longer frame. Should have been compared the the Marlin 1894 SBL.
I agree. I compared the two and bought the 1894 SBL. The 1854 isn't as attractive to me. I also bought 1894 C in 44 and 357. I already had the RM 1895 SBL. To me, the Rugers are all really nice guns. The 1854 with plain polymer stocks just doesn't turn my crank, but I imagine it's an OK shooter.
@@clutchcargo1239 Agreed on the plastic stock thing🤮. Although I have a 444 marlin- I am currently hooked on Henrys, with a 44mag Steel, 44mag Brass and a 360 Buckhammer Steel.
Wanted a Marlin but good luck finding one....
ending buying the S&W 1854 and it works awesome! No regrets😮
I picked mine up fine for 1500ish. Marlin 1895 sbl ruger made
Got a Marlin Trapper S/S .44 mag June 29th. online, found a few, most were out of stock, the one I got was out the door priced lower priced than some and about the same as other's listed prices were. Gritr Sports in Texas.
Saw the SBL version for less at a few places, a little more at others. It was easier to find as well. (it's been available longer).
Saw the 1895 45-70 Trapper at the same place I got mine last year, grabagun, for 500 bucks less! In stock. (less than I paid for the 1894 .44 mag too!) The SBL in stock as well, both are available at a lot of places.
But the manual says not to use +P or +P+. That's a non starter if I'm using for deer. Also it as issues cycling 44spl if you want to use inside as a home defense rifle. Why they made the action so weak as to not handle +P has me scratching my head. Big fail.
@@MGMidget73 are you referring to the marlin or the smith and wesson?
S&w got a tall order to throw henery and marlin off the top 2 spots in the lever action relm. Very tall order. Personally id buy the Marlin dark 336 30/30 or 1895 45/70 and not look bak.
My gun shop hasn't sold a single S&W where as can't keep a Marlin in stock for more than a few days.
I love my 1854 😎
Marlin all the way for sure. Smith & Wesson will never get a $ from me. Lousy company for customer service
I bought a 1854 and it had problems before I even shot it,so I sent it back to be fixed and it came back in worse shape and it was a new gun
I got both. Luv em. Aimpoint Acro works great on the 45-70. If u don’t want to drop the $ on the Acro, Gideon has an Acro clone for around $200 that I really like as well
Marlin all the way
The new Ruger/Marlins are top notch. Love the old S&Ws but not a fan of their new stuff.
I’ve had two Marlins. Both were fine guns, but I never did get consistent accuracy from either when shooting cast bullets. My Winchester had no problems. At the time I was told to blame the “micro-groove” rifling. I don’t know if it was true or not. Sold both.
Fast forward a few decades. My .44 Winchester broke. I haven’t yet found a replacement part. So I bought a Henry. I’d have considered a Marlin since it’s now being made by Ruger, and apparently made without the “micro-groove” rifling, but it wasn’t available in .44.
So far, the Henry works fine. It handles 300-grain bullets-my Winchester never did-and it as been stone reliable.
Marlin? It’s at least 30% more $$, so I won’t be trading in my Henry.
I have both, prefer the marlins looks but the henry brass side gate woth octagonal barrel is just old school cool
45 70 vs 44 ? No comparison
I handled both the new Ruger Marlins 1894, 1895, and the S&W 1854. I like the Marlins over the S&W. I like the quality finish, smooth feel, and the looks of the Marlins better. If you really want a Marlin, they aren't that hard to find. In my experience, they are also relatively comparable in price. Choosing between the two manufacturers was easy for me. The all weather 44 1854, or the 44 1894 SBL. I held the 1854 first, the 1894 second. I bought the 1894 for $100 more... Worth it!. Love the gray laminate stocks/SS combination. Classy all weather look. Super smooth action and a decent all-around trigger... Thanks, Ruger.
Who picked this guy to host this video? I like really like think like they could have like done better. 🇺🇸
I bought both guns and the marlin is the better gun hands down. I didn't even get to shoot my s&w and it already had issues so i sent it back to them and it was returned with the same issues,the gun had rust on it and was filthy from when they shot it plus the burr marks on the tube end. My marlin on the other hand has been nothing but great and they will continue to get my business
Best Marlins *since the 1950s*. Earlier Marlins are in another class. To me, the S&W is overpriced for a plastic stock.
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Does the S&W come in any rifle calibers?
Negative, currently only .44
@@CrackinJacks138 Wrong. They come in .45 LC.
Looks like all the Marlin fanboys just got triggered.
Ruger has done a great job bringing back Marlin to it's former glory.
S&W all the way and not just this I’m talking about pistols too. The M&P 2.0 out shoots a Glock and out does a Glock in a torture test with is huge bc Glock is a tough handgun
@hunteraltman5517 You’re full of it
@@tangotango-gs6lp 😂 I’m sorry for having an opinion. Nothing against Glock but I like Smith&Wesson better 🤷🏼♂️
@hunteraltman5517 No you don’t. Nobody does. S&W autos suck and you know it. There revolvers are political statements that lack attention to details
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This year? Had mine for over a year 🤙🏽
What the hell is wrong with Henry Rifles? They should be in your comparison shoot off. They are great guns. What is your problem?
Can you shoot +P loads out of the Smith and Wesson Lever .44 Magnum. I had a Marlin and it blew up with a +P so i got a Henry and haven’t shot it yet. Afraid it will blow up also.
No, and that's a major fail if you want to deer hunt. Also issues with cycling 44spl if you want to use inside as a home defense rifle. I'd go Henry or Ruger Marlin.
What model marlin ?? The 1895 is safe for pressures of plus P .. most modern levers are .
Read your manual. It will tell you what you can & cannot shoot out of it.
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The trigger sucks!!!
On which one?
Did anyone else see the s&w eject 2 rounds in the slow mo
That was operator error
Probably .44 Special. Leverguns don't like .44 Special
What about the Winchesters?
Better than all the rest, frankly. Japan knows how to craft firearms. People confuse features with quality, if they don't like a top eject they will say it's inferior when that's got nothing to do with design, form, fit, and function.
No idea why the host of this video gushed all over this S&W. Other reviews haven't been as over the top. S&W seemed to have rushed it to the game and there's final assembly issues leading to loose screws and other things that lack attention to detail. The usual S&W stuff that's been going on for YEARS now, which Ruger (producing new Marlins) would not accept. And let's not mention S&W customer service problems.
@@exothermal.sprocketLike a lot of car reviewers some firearms reviewers hoe themselves to manufacturers because they fear not getting review invites if they give an honest review, warts and all. More people should call them out publicly shame and thumbs down.
@@MGMidget73 If the platform didn't eliminate ability to criticize like this.
Awaiting a "Recall" from Smith & Wesson with their track record on Quality Control recently 10 MM Auto issue, Shotgun issue and FPC issue....
I own more S&W products than you can count, and have an incredible record and experience with reliability. Hmmm?
Why would anyone buy a lever action that looks like an AR-15?
The M lok slots and qd sling mounts are nice for actual functionality.
Because not every person has the same tastes etc. Some prefer one way or the other, some like both. Differences in taste are one of the things that makes people individuals. Thankfully, we don't all like the exact same things.
I personally prefer a traditional blued/wood lever gun, but I also like S/S levers with laminated stocks. And I also like many, but not all, of the tactical levers. But I definitely wouldn't want my only lever gun(s) to be tactical style.
Because people who should like broccoli, carrots, potatoes, beef stew, and bacon would rather eat pop tarts, corn flakes, drink Red Bull and eat Slim Jims. Everyone has their own tastes.
Sw is trash nowadays