Caravan rotted floor fix

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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    That is what the underneath of a caravan could look like if it has been subjected to prolonged water damage. In this video I show you how we fix this issue, how much it costs and even an on-the-fly upgrade on how our workshop guys do the job to make the joint neater.
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  • @CaravanWithThatYorkshireChap
    @CaravanWithThatYorkshireChap 19 днів тому +3

    I have owned many older caravans & I’ve never come across all the issues that seem to crop up now with water damage. The caravan industry has gone backwards with their designs. Thanks for highlighting this issue. When checking out used vans I will now be checking underneath 🤨

  • @stehume
    @stehume 19 днів тому +3

    One of the best videos on floor repair on the who net that I have come across
    Would be good to see it done on an alter where maybe the outer frame timber has rotten as well.
    syou have such a mixed bag of videos you should have and deserve more subs
    thank you as always

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому +1

      Thanks, think this was my most complicated video yet, I will do one on a more traditional interior repair when we next do one.

  • @stevenbreach2561
    @stevenbreach2561 3 дні тому

    Not as difficult as I first thought.The hardest part would for me,getting the electric for the tools and the fact I don't have a work pit,but it doesn't look impossible.Thanks for an informative video(Bailey Orion 430/4,2012)

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  3 дні тому

      Take some pictures if you have a go and let me know how you get on..

  • @steve1962
    @steve1962 20 днів тому +2

    Thanks for this - taking ours to be checked next weekend and will no doubt need it doing (Bailey 2017). Love the channel, keep the content coming.
    Steve

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 19 днів тому +1

      Had two bailey caravans( 2019 unicorn) and a (2024 pheonix) both had damp floor issues (yes 2024). You need to check the underside of the caravan after heavy rain, particulary the side edges and corners. This is a design issue which Bailey have not addressed, rain water runs down the sides of the caravan gets behind the skirt rail and enters the floor edge and rots the floor. There is also an issue with the awning rail drain which allows water to drain in the corners and enters the floor edges. I found an easy and quick temporary fix was to stick white electrical tape along the top edge of the awning rail and the wall. there is a good you tube video by I think Vagabond caravanner, showing how he cured the damp issue.

  • @georgemarshall306
    @georgemarshall306 16 днів тому

    At last - a video that actually shows how to repair the rotten ply. Thank you. I have known about this issue on my 2014 Bailey for years. I took the preventative measure of painting the underside of the prone areas with bituminous paint a few years back and it seems to have slowed down the damage, but it is now getting to a point where I need to take further action before the damage spreads much further. I am going to attempt doing this repair to one front corner this weekend and this video has given me the confidence required to start cutting and making good.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  16 днів тому

      Cool, send some pictures over of before and after if you could, or a video would be even better.

  • @KillickGreenieRN
    @KillickGreenieRN 19 днів тому +2

    Good video. Its probably a good idea to put a drip strip on the edge of the moulding to stop the water migrating back on itself.

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 19 днів тому +2

      On the Baileys the skirt rail is in two sections you can remove these and put a 40mm piece of 1mm strip of plastic between the outside wall and inner core to form a 15mm drip strip, when you re-fix these rails both need to be trimmed to clear the drip strip. You can get suitable plasti from B+Q or Eurocell.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      @@paulbird3235great tip..

  • @TheMxrrab
    @TheMxrrab 18 днів тому

    This has helped me massively. Doing both rear corners on my 2008 sterling europa 530 this winter as it’s very similar to the one in the video. Couldn’t find for the life of me a decent guide/video anywhere. It’s pretty much how I planned I would do it, but seeing this just confirms my procedure. Excellent channel thanks again.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  18 днів тому +1

      No problem, be sure to share it around your socials if you be so kind..

  • @paulbaker5492
    @paulbaker5492 19 днів тому +1

    Thanks for this. I noticed this on the rear corners of my 2011 Lunar. Rain water was running down the gutters and hooking under. To greatly reduce the problem I have awning rail protectors and leave them hanging about 6 inches too long. Seems to stop 95% of the water hitting the wood. It also helps to keep the caravan level (side to side) and nose slightly down when in storage.

  • @phylanselmo981
    @phylanselmo981 19 днів тому

    Fantastic job posting and keeping us informed about "how to fix things" in caravans. Fantastic job ! 🙏

  • @NeilMaudsley
    @NeilMaudsley 19 днів тому

    Great video, I've got underneath water damage on my Bailey vigo, going to repair it myself after watching this video, didn't know it was so easy to do.

  • @steveallinson3448
    @steveallinson3448 19 днів тому

    Great video..I have a 1994 Bailey Discovery Maru 2 berth..the underneath is as solid as the day it was made..I've lived in it for the last 4 years without any issues..I'll give it a coat of preservative when I get a chance..luv the channel 👍

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому +1

      Yes, it is odd that we don’t see this in older vans..

  • @Perthshire
    @Perthshire 20 днів тому +6

    Caravan manufacturers' construction processes are verging on negligent

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому +4

      Maybe, could be considered maintenance, the only problem is people don’t know about it..

  • @Meggy6571
    @Meggy6571 19 днів тому +1

    Hi,
    We have a swift, it's only 3 yrs old but will check it.
    Great advice for all and informative.
    Can't believe that bailey are still producing vans with this issue ongoing.
    Thanks Paul.

    • @tgburchick
      @tgburchick 16 днів тому +1

      A 3 year old swift has no wood on the outside.

    • @Meggy6571
      @Meggy6571 16 днів тому

      @tgburchick
      Thanks, does that include the floor externally

  • @bizarremagick
    @bizarremagick 20 днів тому

    Great to see that this can be repaired. Not cheap but cheaper than a new caravan.
    A couple of questions:
    What are you screwing into?
    What about the strength after?
    What paint did you use?
    Thanks for another interesting video.

    • @mikenixon5430
      @mikenixon5430 19 днів тому

      Great question, I am also interested about the strength of the repair especially in the area where the steady is attached. Just inserting a small piece of ply makes it look nice but it will have very little structural strength. The last repair that was shown going back to the chassis leg extension was much better but I still have reservations. If it were mine then I think I would be looking for a much larger repair patch going the full width of the caravan.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому +1

      The screws are going into the wood towards the rear of the caravan, the ones in the front just go into the insulation just to hold the ply in place until bond and seal goes off. These is no real strength in that part of the floor, re bonding ply in that area will strengthen it to a higher degree than the damaged wood would be doing.

  • @user-bp9ep6ts9t
    @user-bp9ep6ts9t 19 днів тому +1

    Need to add a lip or similar so the rain drips off rather than tracking on to the ply. I now have a 1994 Elddis which the ply is dry 16:47 and solid. Previously had a 2014 Bailey Pursuit with similar probs as the video

  • @grahamevans-prosser6045
    @grahamevans-prosser6045 15 днів тому

    Thank you for making this video. Could you tell me which Cuprinol paint you used.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  15 днів тому

      I keep forgetting to ask, I’ll find out.. any wood preserve will do though.

  • @boombox2661
    @boombox2661 19 днів тому +2

    The manufacturers need to have guttering on the inside on their present material and construction designs. The whole new build design is she-ite. Need a new approach from the topdown, or a new company.
    Should consider using different materials like PP plastic faced plywood WBP green formwork panelFilm Face is a plywood made with a Hardwood core.
    Faces are then coated with a high density overlay (HDO) resin impregnated finish that is smooth; perfect for use in applications that require a hard, durable surface.
    Faces are then coated with a high density overlay (HDO) resin impregnated textured finish that provides an ideal anti-skid surface
    other-wise known as Hardface, is a plywood made with a bond glue, radiata core and hardwood veneer faces with a high density overlay (HDO) resin impregnated finish that is smooth, perfect for use in concrete formwork and can be used several times.
    Bonding:
    ‘A Bond’ (WBP) - a waterproof glue line produced from phenolic resins (WBP -Water Boil Proof adhesive) that will not deteriorate under extreme conditions. It is readily recognisable by its black colour.
    I thought the manufacturers had water ingress covered, but it seems like they just don't want them to last.

  • @joelsjkd1
    @joelsjkd1 15 днів тому

    Hi, great vid, what are you using to paint/ seal the ply wood under the van?

  • @felixmckeown344
    @felixmckeown344 9 днів тому

    Great video what glue do you use please

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  9 днів тому

      We used a bond and seal that we get from swift, but you can use Sikaflex 522 or Ct1.

  • @steamdrivenandy6880
    @steamdrivenandy6880 19 днів тому +1

    One thought. Why don't dealers include a refresh of wood preserver as a part of an annual service, or as an option add-on to a service? IIRC Hymer used to make it mandatory on Eribas that the floor was reproofed every year with a product they supplied in order to keep the warranty valid.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому +1

      @@steamdrivenandy6880 that’s a good idea, we do check the floor but don’t offer a refresh service, I could offer that.

    • @steamdrivenandy6880
      @steamdrivenandy6880 19 днів тому

      Maybe a standard service that is just checks and a gold star service that includes a floor preserving refresh and a valet.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      @@steamdrivenandy6880don’t think I’ll go that far, you should see some of the states people leave their caravans in!

    • @steamdrivenandy6880
      @steamdrivenandy6880 19 днів тому

      Our local Spinney won't valet vans and it's the one thing that I suspect most owners would happily pay for.

  • @kenrothon2940
    @kenrothon2940 19 днів тому

    another great video.

  • @gnarlyboot477
    @gnarlyboot477 19 днів тому

    Another great informative video. We have a Swift, I normally store it nose down so the water runs forward away from the rear roof strap. Any advice about front or rear water shedding for storage?

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      As you said really, as to as water can’t stop anywhere that’s okay, and maintaining any troublesome areas is a good idea.

  • @tomclark3333
    @tomclark3333 19 днів тому

    Could this still happen on 2023 swifts with the grp underneath the floor? Great video

  • @paultraynor5085
    @paultraynor5085 18 днів тому

    Hi cane l fit a strip of upvc on the edge of the van so as help the water to run of the van.grat advise thanks very much ❤

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  18 днів тому

      Yes, them at would probably make the water run away from the wood.

  • @brianpaige4884
    @brianpaige4884 17 днів тому

    I was surprised at how thin the plywood was ....my old Swift from the 90s floor is in perfect condition....

  • @dave40612
    @dave40612 3 дні тому

    Great video, awful music 😉 I guessing this was a Bailey Alutec?
    If Bailey saw sense and used plastic coated flooring like Swift & Elddis do nowadays would that resolved the issue?
    I've seen your video on the Coachman with it's longer panels and how it diverts the water away from the floor, so if a van was built combining those 2 technologies, along with plastic wood framing would that resolve a lot of damp issues?

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  2 дні тому +1

      I took ages picking that music! No, it was a Swift fairway.. it seems like it would be a good idea to use a GRP floor, I’ve not seen the 2025 vans yet, fingers crossed.

  • @carilionuk
    @carilionuk 19 днів тому

    What was the thickness of the ply used as i obviously have to buy this first.

  • @user-rm1tn2qr5r
    @user-rm1tn2qr5r 19 днів тому

    What size ply and what glue please?

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому +1

      I think it was 3 mm I’ll have to ask, and we use a Bostik bond and seal we get from swift, but Sikaflex 522 is good or CT 1.

  • @russellwild8329
    @russellwild8329 19 днів тому +1

    why dont thery put a lip on thre caravan back and sides so the water doesn't touch the wood?

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 19 днів тому

      All of these problems are down to BAD DESIGN BY THE MANUFACTURER!.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      I don’t think it would have occurred to them at the time of manufacture.

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 19 днів тому

      @@atlanticcaravansUK 7years later and the same design, how long does it take to solve a problem!.

  • @Justbehelpful
    @Justbehelpful 19 днів тому

    What is the bond adhesive

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      We use a bostik adhesive suppled by Swift but any bond and seal will do, I believe CT1 is good or Sikaflex 522.

  • @gedtierney374
    @gedtierney374 19 днів тому

    I would have thought that after the repair, the complete underneath of the caravan would have been re sealed.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      You could do, but it’s only where water sits for prolonged periods of time it’s an issue, the res of the floor was fine.

  • @tanglewood777
    @tanglewood777 11 днів тому

    wots the glue called

  • @hedgerowpete
    @hedgerowpete 16 днів тому

    at long last , all the videos and forum gurus all think caravan floors rot from the top down, no one ever menttions about the plywood delaminating

  • @jeroemsmith566
    @jeroemsmith566 14 днів тому

    What a rip off for a temporary job is that plus vat

  • @allantaylor3288
    @allantaylor3288 19 днів тому

    Should have painted/sealed the ply both sides and end grain before fitting it under the van panel’s

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      Could have done, but it’s external ply that’s been treated anyway.

    • @allantaylor3288
      @allantaylor3288 19 днів тому

      Yes but that’s not the point. As a builder by trade I was taught to prime all exterior timber before assembly even if it was H3 treated. I certainly wouldn’t be happy if this was my van.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  19 днів тому

      @@allantaylor3288 fair enough, I’m sure it’ll last a good ten years with regular treatment, and it was sealed in as you saw in the video, so not quite sure how water could get into the areas you mentioned. But I’ll mention it to the guys.

    • @LizKidd
      @LizKidd 12 днів тому +1

      I would have cleaned the green of the van and the underside first. Looks a sloppy repair to me.

    • @atlanticcaravansUK
      @atlanticcaravansUK  12 днів тому

      @@LizKiddwe did at the end, not relevant to the repair. Out of interest, how would you have done it so I can maybe update the process?