There's some similarity, but she was milles ahead in terms of access and Pakistan affair... She was a friend of Sonia Gandhi... And had a child with a Pakistani elite called Salman Taseer (who later became the governor of Pakistani Punjab and assassinated)
She has written quite a bit on the plight of hindus in Punjab and what they went through in the 80s and 90s...not a fan of her...but learn to take things from context ....not everything is black and white
Shout out to Tavleen as she gave unvarnished viewpoint for this K stan history and holds her head high like Punjabi Sikh lady with no fear. Mass respects
I can understand that, I'd suggest you to watch other documentaries, like BBC Hindi's Vivechana and Shekhar Gupta's 4 episode series on Bhindrawale. I know all three of them are leftists(including BBC outlet) but just give it a watch for information purposes and you'll understand or I'd say have a lot more clarity over what Tavleen's trying to narrate here.
She does this for a living. TV crew of ndtv and other news channels make arrangements for panel members so that they appear near on a debate. Kushal lives off his father's money, so has to make do with diy stuff.
Few days ago on Barkha Dutt's Mojo Story, Tavleen Singh Ma'am was suggesting Indian and Punjab Govt to have a talk with Amritpal over this Khalistan Resurgence ! 😂 Her POV was completely discarded by all the 5 eminent panelists, she has clearly lost the touch with reality.
Punjab cannot prosper unless businesses invest in it. Meanwhile, Punjab is overly communalized by the Sikhs, scaring off businesses. Alkalis did no favors at all. In his naivety and desire for fame, Bhinderawale further ruined Punjab. 20 years from now, when drugs have finished the youth, what will happen?
Tavleen respects from all over but sadly don't see respects for punjabi.Panjabis are very educated with yourselves going and asking him straight way you took money from Congress that comes from panjabiat
Tavleen before used to say good things about BJP & then her son was refused visas to India because he had written a false piece on Modi and India. His allegiance has always been with Pakistan, being the son of a Pakistani man, although he is supposed to have been brought up by his maternal grandmother. And since this incident Tavleen has become anti BJP & Modi. If she was that fair she would have condemned what her son did and continued to support BJP.
1st of all Tavleen have neutral view. 2nd the material of her son's piece isn't that bad.He actually praise him in many places in that piece but if someone only see the cover page & heading of the magazine the think it's only a hits piece against modi. It's tell the quality of PMO stuff. After that fiasco her son started writing hit piece against Modi more blatantly.
So now she suddenly trying to be this side, though having a son with Pakistani. And the son writes anti India articles, atleast he's true'Pakistani. Inka, na idhar na udhar, like most indian elites, and netas.
Shekhar Gupta mentioned in one of his shows that Tavleen Singh was the one journalist who wasn't in awe off Bhindranwale and wasn't bullied by him. Frankly, that is one fact of redemption for Ms. Singh, who is otherwise absolute crap all the time in all circumstances. Frankly even Hindus aren't feeling bullied by either Bhindranwale old or Bhindranwale new. But we sure are trying to find our way out of secularism. I wonder if you realised that the very condescending outlook bordering on contempt for Hindus is as prominent in Tavleen Singh and the other Indian "secular" elites as it probably is amongst the Pakistanis? Hostility towards Hinduness is a shared trait of both the Pakistani as well as Indian elites post 1947. At 53:00,:there is a reference to "ohh, there are some Hindutva lunatics ....blah blah". Well, there may be some Hindutva lunatics running around, but lunacy is the very core of secularism. I can't speak for others, but I am done with secularism, which flowered and will flower in India solely dur to Hindus. But a notion of reciprocity and mutuality is a must.
@@tanveercheema3802 In 1947 when India re-emerged after partition, all Hindus hoped for was that at last they can breathe free and breathe easy after being under seige for centuries first from Islamic invaders and then from Christian colonisers The memo on secularism said all religions and communities will be able to live with freedom. I want the "all" to include Hindus also. Secularism leans on the shoulders of Hindus but pretends they are subduing a Hindu monster. Secularism wants Hindus to be a put up as a punching bag, where everyone who declares himself to be "not a Hindu " can have a go at. Secularism has no legs to stand on its own. This is a secularism which couldn't get itself to stand against 'sar tan se juda', which encourages Hijab simultaneously as it mocks Ghoonghat, It is all for Christian evangelisation of Hindu communities. And now it has got Sikhs as the latest entrants to have a go against Hindus. That is all there is to it. Actually it would be good if all Christians and Muslims and Sikhs also genuinely become secular instead of the Sham which passes for secularism.
@@viswanathanseshadri1047 What do you mean I dont get it every religious minority is secular sikhs dont a theocracy nor do otheres except for a radical mintority ?
I don't think punjabis are hated in India, my friends are hindu and sikh punjabi and believe me with them I enjoyed the most , yes there is machismo thing but with more development and industries we can overcome this behavior, I wouldn't compare punjabi pakistani with out indian punjabi at all , Zameen aasman ka farq hai
We are are hated on social media,more so by erudite Intellectuals who got nothing to do with Bhajpa and rss but are Trad wingers who are brainwashed by true Indology,Sai Deepak,Sanjay Dixit types
Hi Tavleen ma'am, I respect your a lot. However, Aatish despises India and has some kind of love for his father's killers. His response to the Nupur Sharma incident is a classic example. How had this come tobe? Please advise 🙏
Burkha Dutt ki Gurumaa, Tavleen Singh is insinuating that BJP is aiding Amrit pal for 2024 election. She took a U turn against BJP after her Putra moh incident. Oddly, Amrit Pal situation has brought Tavleen back in limelight.
Are you suggesting that she is somehow involved with Amritpal so that she gets back some relevance? She had become quite obscure since the son's incident.
@@sandeepbhatt1354 Nehru Gandhi Vadra dynasties have been really bad for India. From the very beginning they have sold out India to others, not allowed any infra structure development of any significance, brought in changes unilaterally only affecting Hindus, throughout have appeased the peacefools who are showing their true colours. The peacefools were never restricted unlike the Hindus. Islam and Christian religions have no restrictions placed on them but Hindu religions and Hindus have and the Congis have the gall to call India secular when they have been the most discriminatory against the Hindus. Congis brought in the "Places of Worship Act" in 1991. Then they brought in the Waqf Act 1995. The M community is using this act to usurp land and property that has never belonged to them.
How you can say so confidently that bhindrawale said “ sikh kaum mnu kde manff ni kru gi” were you there because all who were there say he went out to bow down to Darbar sahib and nishan sahib for last time.
Every other gurudwara in Punjab has photos of bhindranwale being venerated......Hindus outside Punjab don't know much I guess....majority of the Sikhs in punjab support bhindranwale but are prudent enough not to go against India as they have realised it's not practical to do so . As bhindranwale famously said that he would take khalistan if given on a platter but won't fight for it...this is the thought process followed by majority of Sikhs .as per Sikhs being in army and patriotic: ks brar and kps Gill are hated in Punjab throughout, shahbeg Singh who led khalistanis during operation blue star was a 1971 veteran, I bet this man is more loved than ks brar ... ..many of the non Punjabis don't know about the systematic cleansing and exodus of hindus which happened in many places in Punjab during 80s and 90s.......a Hindu man was lynched in gurdaspur two years ago for drinking water in a gurudwara.. Temple.desecration is a regular affair in Punjab...last year Patiala temple was desecrated. Political murders of Shiv Sena members are common. Last year a leader namely Suri was murdered in broad daylight for protesting against be-adabi against Hindu temples...so my point is on the fellow so called pro Hindus from non - Punjabi states...stop licking their boots
The whole lot of bullshit is added to isolated incidents. There is a respect for Bhindrawala in Punjab due to his opposition of Nirankaris and other religious issues of the time, and finally got portrayed as Martyr after 1984. He was not a person to settle political issues, religious leader should never do politics. Some of his statements against Hindus were embarrassing, and the majority never agreed or took those statements seriously. To the date, there isn't any Hindu, Sikh issue in Punjab. It is always against the center when it comes to major issues. Most Sikhs living in cities go to Hindu Temples as well. Kps Gill is hated for human rights issues. 10s of thousands of innocent sikhs were killed and burnt/dumped in rivers under KPS gill. Just a data of 2-3 years in 1 district for unidentified bodies gathered from cremation grounds gave number of 7000, and punjab had 14-15 districts at the time. Later, that activist was also abducted and killed by police. KS Brar is not hated as such but he isn't liked due to his role in operation blue star. I personally feel he was just doing his duty. Fact of matter, even Brother of Bhindrawala was doing his duty outside golden temple during operation, who was also in the army. Killing Suri was unfortunate and a big failure of police to protect him. Though he was no Saint, he gave statements like "killing sikhs" and taking sikh women when everyone goes aboard. When killed, he was protesting against another Hindu organization, which was running the temple some operational issues, not any Hindu sikh issue. There are 2-3% radicals in both the religions, but they are on the fringes. One fringe support Simarjeet Mann's Akali Dal, other supports BJP. So, in short, most of the issues in Punjab are created by central and state governments of the time for some political benefit. Also, Tavleen indicated as well, practical or prudence are the last words you associate with Jat Sikhs. They are not RSS who plan for decades ahead. If tomorrow BJP announce Hindu Rastra you will see the "prudent attitude" of Sikh as well as majority of Hindus.
@@brar1320 did the Sikhs drop from the sky? I have heard the history of Sikhs from a Sikh. In case you are not aware of this, the elder son of the hindu family became sikh to protect the Hindus from the Islamic invaders. The Sikhs seem to have forgotten this. Their ancestors were Hindus. Just like the "M" community the Sikhs are behaving like they have no connection with the Hindus. The problem with both these communities is that they only know one thing barbarism. They are just so ignorant. The only thing they know is taking up weapons and killing Hindus!
Na that's not happening we are thankful to have a party which follows exponential appeasement model.The more u push the more they appease.U RW can do nothing no amount of online comments can change the conventional narrative .Sit back and vote for sweet secular bhajpa else continue ranting on social media for life
Shabaig Singh was in touch with Pakistan's isi folks army used some other way to throw him to save the image of Indian army it was politics but good politics
ye kaunsa Talveen Singh fan base hai yaha? Lol. I am not against it, but goddamn, just the sheer amount of comments praising her. And then there's a Khalistani delusional roaming around the comment section, so that's there. And some people are confused about her politics; sums it up, Ig. Now you won't have to scroll through the comment section, and as a token of gratitude, UPI Kushal Rs. 1.
Although I was student of Panjab University in 70ties at Chandigarh and remember the time and events.Always knew he was product Congress and Giani Zail Singh helped him.Only today I came to know from Tavleen Singh that it was Sanjay Gandhi, quite revealing.Very ENLIGHTENING and refreshing.
Sant jarnail singh bhindrawa;e was great indeed. Your subramanium swami gets it moreover listen to the speeches before forming a prejudice. Or stay brainwashed by hindu media idgaf
Painting entire Jaat Sikhs with single brush is so wrong. I am not denying that the majority of the khalistani were Jaat Sikhs but there were also the Rajput Sikhs and Sikhs from other caste too. We should refrain from making swiping statements.
Which is GOI, can't tell if you're being negationist or something else but Khalistan is hatred for Hindus, what else would be the treatment of a Hindu Power in Supremacy if they come face to face with it ? That's what happened in Delhi
I am from a jat Sikh farmer family in Punjab. I second Tavleen's "appreciation" of chauvinist mentality of our community. Btw KPS Gill was also a Jat Sikh.So was Bhindranwaley & So is Amritpal Singh, so was our national hero Shaheed Bhagat Singh 😅 Btw I seriously feel this "Amritpal phenomenon" is a repeat of Indira Gandhi 's playbook - Central agencies trying to stir trouble in Punjab, create a problem which then can be "countered" by "strong" Modi govt to win votes around India Over "nationalism" . Btw I am a staunch nationalist, support most of Modi govt policies. But we can see through what central govt is attempting to achieve in Punjab.
You have too narrow view of BJP. They would never try to break the historical bond between Hindus and Sikh just for a state election. Indira was evil, was in bed with islamists and communists. Not the same with Modi.
@@lopu8000 mighty Indian state ( all govts and security + Intel agencies) failing to nab a fugitive despite trailing him all along, could only mean either of the two things - either it's full of shear incompetence or its "compromised" with the fugitive. And the way our media - especially the "nationalist media" built this Amritpal guy up, the way agencies have been giving him a free pass has been so easy to spot i.e. the political motives & strategy in play of "powers that be"
@@jasha9sandhu yeah okay but with these types of hypothesis. There is nothing absolute. What you are trying to prove is really good to the ears. But na you can never prove that. And yeah mostly Punjab government has taken actions so it's good to them more. Some people do say that 'now kejriwal has entered Punjab now it will be easy for them to make khalistan'. It helps AAP more and cancels that narrative. And i don't think Modi will get votes for how he or his government has handled the Punjab situation.
I don't think it's modi plan to raise khalistan issue ,bjp has seen those havoc of those times , how congress used bhindrawala and then he went out of their hand ,so I don't see any connection, it is conspiracy theories only , infact we can see aap party people with khalistani guys ,
so he was right the lady who plucks her eyebrows lol first time i am hearing such a comment where bhindranwale thought he was guru himself fanatical thinking lol what drug is she on
I could not help but laugh at the fact that much of bhindrawala’s ideology on keeping your hair was all because this one woman plucks her eyebrows 😂😂😂😂😂
I thought U ask much more important questions . U didn't Like how many Hindus were killed . How Hindus perceived Sikhs then ?? Was there schism between Normal Sikhs and Indian state ? ..... Couldn't have Indira G waited more months before final operation ??
Why the General Shabigh Singh ---- who created Mukthi Bahini, was Removed from Army ??? Tell the story . Was he the One who planted hate for Hindus or for the Indian State within Bhindrennwale ??
I respect her for criticising Bhindranwale but she was outright adharic, being a jat woman you ended up loving a porki spy ?? You couldn't find anyone who was a sikh or a hindu let alone castes ?? I need to know this from her ki sada abdul aidaan ni haiga jidaan tusi sochde ho ?? Punjab was the frontier of islamic onslaught and we are the victims u need to understand this that over thousands of years we have fought them and eventually they got the best of us.... let me know if u agree ?
Tusi tavleenji ehe ni suneya....?? Bal chhuutakoi bandhan pare kachoo na hot upaaye Kaho Nanak ab ott har gajj jyon hin sahayee Sangh sakha sab taj gaye Kouu naa nibhyo sath Kaho Nanak ehe bipat main tek ek Raghunath Did u not know that Jatt sikhs i would call them sikhs and sikhs only who fought for Ayodhya Ram janam bhumi ??? U need to understand that we the sikhs the buddhists the jains and the hindus are on brink of extinction??? Mam get your facts right
Today Mr channan sidhu also tells everybody this that khalsa was born not because of Muslim but because of Hindus all fight was between Hindu and Muslim So why these so called Hindu rakshak blabber so much if you were a constraint born
So Khalsa is NOT the Aim and Sole reason for Sikhism. Nanaks teachings have more relevance . Khalsa is just an episode or Chapter in Sikhism needed , created by Guru Gobind Sikh because of extreme cruelty of Mughals . So Khalsa should be detached from Sikhism. Sikhs should stop 5 Ks and Stop taking about Khalsa. How will this happen ??
Both are butcher ….Have u ever heard any saint wanted to kill 5000 innocent people … now please don’t justify the act by giving foolish reasons …. Any saint won’t ever talk about killing no matter the reason
@KushalMehra great interview. Great to liaten to TavleenSingh. The Indian Govt. doesn't seem to have the necessary EQ to do governance (regardless of the party). Punjab seems to be floating and gloating in drugs, religious conversions and foreign interference.
Well Tavleen Singh is most honest and bipartisan journalist in this hyper polarised atmosphere. She's the only journalist who talks some sense. She's the reason I stopped blindly following Modi Cult. 😊
Imagine dedicating all your life to fighitng for the desh and Indian Army just to be accused of corruption and not been given the honors you deserve after fighting 3 wars. I think anyone rational would also be superpissed off
It was all going fine until she said poor little umar khalid 😂
Bomb ka gola hsi vo jihadi🤣🤣🤣Sharjeel Imamu bhi.
😂😂😂
Atankwadi kutiya hamesha atankwadi pille ka sath hi degi.
Umar Khalid isn't Muslim. So why this hate?
What is he then?? @@SatyaPriyadarshi-qp4dp
She was just a Barkha Dutt of that time.
She just said burkha dutt is a good reporter and he nodded 😮😂
There's some similarity, but she was milles ahead in terms of access and Pakistan affair... She was a friend of Sonia Gandhi... And had a child with a Pakistani elite called Salman Taseer (who later became the governor of Pakistani Punjab and assassinated)
She is 100 times better than barkha .....
@@micheal6803 that is why more dangerous
She has written quite a bit on the plight of hindus in Punjab and what they went through in the 80s and 90s...not a fan of her...but learn to take things from context ....not everything is black and white
Shout out to Tavleen as she gave unvarnished viewpoint for this K stan history and holds her head high like Punjabi Sikh lady with no fear. Mass respects
Sab kuch fake hai yaar 😂
No fear, No logic either.
sarkari kutaa 😂
he is a liberal he is in the list of gaddars of the sikhs
right
@@harshdeepsingh8211
She has neither continuity nor coherence in her narration and she is more interested in maintaining her accent.
I can understand that, I'd suggest you to watch other documentaries, like BBC Hindi's Vivechana and Shekhar Gupta's 4 episode series on Bhindrawale. I know all three of them are leftists(including BBC outlet) but just give it a watch for information purposes and you'll understand or I'd say have a lot more clarity over what Tavleen's trying to narrate here.
Tavleen ji ka camera quality sahi hai khushal bhaiya apke face pe kuch jada hi light
She does this for a living. TV crew of ndtv and other news channels make arrangements for panel members so that they appear near on a debate.
Kushal lives off his father's money, so has to make do with diy stuff.
@@roman5782father's money 😂😂
This was a good podcast episode. Thank you both!
Sikh student leader who Tavleen tried to remember, at 32:29 was President of All India Sikh Students Federation Amrik Singh.
Please don't bring her again...the kind of false equivalence she draws between RSS and SGPC is deplorable. She tacitly supports the agenda of ISI.
So much historical inaccuracies, may be due to old age 😅.
That was a very informative session. Thank you, Kushal & Tavleen ji!
Few days ago on Barkha Dutt's Mojo Story, Tavleen Singh Ma'am was suggesting Indian and Punjab Govt to have a talk with Amritpal over this Khalistan Resurgence ! 😂 Her POV was completely discarded by all the 5 eminent panelists, she has clearly lost the touch with reality.
She's a complete but job who makes no sense one minute she says he's not a terrorist next min she says he's killed tonnes of sikhs? Well what is it?
That's what she is. Situation ke hisab se logic bdl lena
32.40 The student leader was Amrik Singh, i think..
I like how she says Pindrawale
Dam! she is so open about what she actually thinks. I've hardly seen an old school reporter being so blunt.
Awesome ❤
Punjab cannot prosper unless businesses invest in it. Meanwhile, Punjab is overly communalized by the Sikhs, scaring off businesses. Alkalis did no favors at all. In his naivety and desire for fame, Bhinderawale further ruined Punjab. 20 years from now, when drugs have finished the youth, what will happen?
Punjab was destroyed by Nehru and mainly indhira gandhi, read some history first.
The correct name is Bhundran wala. The one whose Bhund ran because it was leaky.
Let us have legendary General Brar on your podcast
Tavleen respects from all over but sadly don't see respects for punjabi.Panjabis are very educated with yourselves going and asking him straight way you took money from Congress that comes from panjabiat
She does not know anything about Sufis and to say Sikh gurus had created a Sufi panth is crazy.
Her brain is fully fried Guru Nanak had a sudi friend called Baba freieed ji but Sikhism is the same as sufism
Tavleen before used to say good things about BJP & then her son was refused visas to India because he had written a false piece on Modi and India. His allegiance has always been with Pakistan, being the son of a Pakistani man, although he is supposed to have been brought up by his maternal grandmother. And since this incident Tavleen has become anti BJP & Modi. If she was that fair she would have condemned what her son did and continued to support BJP.
This was the moment where she understood how totalitarian and intolerant BJP is
Kuch likh diya against to visa reject kr diya, waah bhai!!
1st of all Tavleen have neutral view.
2nd the material of her son's piece isn't that bad.He actually praise him in many places in that piece but if someone only see the cover page & heading of the magazine the think it's only a hits piece against modi. It's tell the quality of PMO stuff. After that fiasco her son started writing hit piece against Modi more blatantly.
Honestly Kushal better than this you could have brought the ex Khakistani who appeared on Vaad a few days ago.
I followed her work for long she is is no different than barkha ,just go and research her work
Kps gill was the trick...I agree on tavleen on this part
....and they definitely don't think logically
So now she suddenly trying to be this side, though having a son with Pakistani. And the son writes anti India articles, atleast he's true'Pakistani. Inka, na idhar na udhar, like most indian elites, and netas.
Another Classic!!! Tavleen is an ocean of information and knowledge of the times.
Kaun sa ocean Indian Ocean or Pind ocean... 😁😁😆
@@koul09876 salman taseer ocean
She’s an overzealous ambitious type who thinks she’s a expert. I can’t stand these type of people. Listening to this was awful.
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Wow, Kushal this was incredible to hear it from the horse’s Louth itself 👏👏👏
The dp is dope. Swamy Kushalanand. 👌😅
At 27.50 what is the meaning of sentence?
I don’t know anything about this lady but she sounds very nice. Her accent is clear and confident and she has a nice voice.
@kushal it was “ bharwatte munnan waaliaan “ pluck eye brows type.
Shekhar Gupta mentioned in one of his shows that Tavleen Singh was the one journalist who wasn't in awe off Bhindranwale and wasn't bullied by him.
Frankly, that is one fact of redemption for Ms. Singh, who is otherwise absolute crap all the time in all circumstances.
Frankly even Hindus aren't feeling bullied by either Bhindranwale old or Bhindranwale new. But we sure are trying to find our way out of secularism.
I wonder if you realised that the very condescending outlook bordering on contempt for Hindus is as prominent in Tavleen Singh and the other Indian "secular" elites as it probably is amongst the Pakistanis? Hostility towards Hinduness is a shared trait of both the Pakistani as well as Indian elites post 1947.
At 53:00,:there is a reference to "ohh, there are some Hindutva lunatics ....blah blah".
Well, there may be some Hindutva lunatics running around, but lunacy is the very core of secularism.
I can't speak for others, but I am done with secularism, which flowered and will flower in India solely dur to Hindus. But a notion of reciprocity and mutuality is a must.
Well said mate, thought I'd disagree with you until i read it through
What are you gonna replace secularism with? Do you want india to become a Hindu version of Pakistan which is a complete failed state ?
@@tanveercheema3802 In 1947 when India re-emerged after partition, all Hindus hoped for was that at last they can breathe free and breathe easy after being under seige for centuries first from Islamic invaders and then from Christian colonisers The memo on secularism said all religions and communities will be able to live with freedom. I want the "all" to include Hindus also. Secularism leans on the shoulders of Hindus but pretends they are subduing a Hindu monster. Secularism wants Hindus to be a put up as a punching bag, where everyone who declares himself to be "not a Hindu " can have a go at. Secularism has no legs to stand on its own. This is a secularism which couldn't get itself to stand against 'sar tan se juda', which encourages Hijab simultaneously as it mocks Ghoonghat, It is all for Christian evangelisation of Hindu communities. And now it has got Sikhs as the latest entrants to have a go against Hindus. That is all there is to it. Actually it would be good if all Christians and Muslims and Sikhs also genuinely become secular instead of the Sham which passes for secularism.
@@viswanathanseshadri1047 What do you mean I dont get it every religious minority is secular sikhs dont a theocracy nor do otheres except for a radical mintority ?
This host is very biased and actually pretty dumb.
He's a child.
I don't think punjabis are hated in India, my friends are hindu and sikh punjabi and believe me with them I enjoyed the most ,
yes there is machismo thing but with more development and industries we can overcome this behavior,
I wouldn't compare punjabi pakistani with out indian punjabi at all ,
Zameen aasman ka farq hai
We are are hated on social media,more so by erudite Intellectuals who got nothing to do with Bhajpa and rss but are Trad wingers who are brainwashed by true Indology,Sai Deepak,Sanjay Dixit types
"Gentle man"
We in India have too.mich of Punjabi Culture, army Domination.
We need to reduce it
Hi Tavleen ma'am, I respect your a lot. However, Aatish despises India and has some kind of love for his father's killers. His response to the Nupur Sharma incident is a classic example. How had this come tobe? Please advise 🙏
Burkha Dutt ki Gurumaa, Tavleen Singh is insinuating that BJP is aiding Amrit pal for 2024 election.
She took a U turn against BJP after her Putra moh incident.
Oddly, Amrit Pal situation has brought Tavleen back in limelight.
Are you suggesting that she is somehow involved with Amritpal so that she gets back some relevance? She had become quite obscure since the son's incident.
Its Amit Shah who wanted Kejri to arrest Amrit Pal
@@sandeepbhatt1354 Nehru Gandhi Vadra dynasties have been really bad for India. From the very beginning they have sold out India to others, not allowed any infra structure development of any significance, brought in changes unilaterally only affecting Hindus, throughout have appeased the peacefools who are showing their true colours. The peacefools were never restricted unlike the Hindus. Islam and Christian religions have no restrictions placed on them but Hindu religions and Hindus have and the Congis have the gall to call India secular when they have been the most discriminatory against the Hindus. Congis brought in the "Places of Worship Act" in 1991. Then they brought in the Waqf Act 1995. The M community is using this act to usurp land and property that has never belonged to them.
How you can say so confidently that bhindrawale said “ sikh kaum mnu kde manff ni kru gi” were you there because all who were there say he went out to bow down to Darbar sahib and nishan sahib for last time.
Swami Kushal Mehra finally.
Every other gurudwara in Punjab has photos of bhindranwale being venerated......Hindus outside Punjab don't know much I guess....majority of the Sikhs in punjab support bhindranwale but are prudent enough not to go against India as they have realised it's not practical to do so
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As bhindranwale famously said that he would take khalistan if given on a platter but won't fight for it...this is the thought process followed by majority of Sikhs
.as per Sikhs being in army and patriotic: ks brar and kps Gill are hated in Punjab throughout, shahbeg Singh who led khalistanis during operation blue star was a 1971 veteran, I bet this man is more loved than ks brar ... ..many of the non Punjabis don't know about the systematic cleansing and exodus of hindus which happened in many places in Punjab during 80s and 90s.......a Hindu man was lynched in gurdaspur two years ago for drinking water in a gurudwara..
Temple.desecration is a regular affair in Punjab...last year Patiala temple was desecrated.
Political murders of Shiv Sena members are common.
Last year a leader namely Suri was murdered in broad daylight for protesting against be-adabi against Hindu temples...so my point is on the fellow so called pro Hindus from non - Punjabi states...stop licking their boots
So Hindus are not safe anywhere in India. They will be attacked by the peacefuls and the Sikhs
The whole lot of bullshit is added to isolated incidents.
There is a respect for Bhindrawala in Punjab due to his opposition of Nirankaris and other religious issues of the time, and finally got portrayed as Martyr after 1984. He was not a person to settle political issues, religious leader should never do politics. Some of his statements against Hindus were embarrassing, and the majority never agreed or took those statements seriously. To the date, there isn't any Hindu, Sikh issue in Punjab. It is always against the center when it comes to major issues. Most Sikhs living in cities go to Hindu Temples as well.
Kps Gill is hated for human rights issues. 10s of thousands of innocent sikhs were killed and burnt/dumped in rivers under KPS gill. Just a data of 2-3 years in 1 district for unidentified bodies gathered from cremation grounds gave number of 7000, and punjab had 14-15 districts at the time. Later, that activist was also abducted and killed by police.
KS Brar is not hated as such but he isn't liked due to his role in operation blue star. I personally feel he was just doing his duty. Fact of matter, even Brother of Bhindrawala was doing his duty outside golden temple during operation, who was also in the army.
Killing Suri was unfortunate and a big failure of police to protect him. Though he was no Saint, he gave statements like "killing sikhs" and taking sikh women when everyone goes aboard. When killed, he was protesting against another Hindu organization, which was running the temple some operational issues, not any Hindu sikh issue.
There are 2-3% radicals in both the religions, but they are on the fringes. One fringe support Simarjeet Mann's Akali Dal, other supports BJP.
So, in short, most of the issues in Punjab are created by central and state governments of the time for some political benefit.
Also, Tavleen indicated as well, practical or prudence are the last words you associate with Jat Sikhs. They are not RSS who plan for decades ahead. If tomorrow BJP announce Hindu Rastra you will see the "prudent attitude" of Sikh as well as majority of Hindus.
@@brar1320 did the Sikhs drop from the sky? I have heard the history of Sikhs from a Sikh. In case you are not aware of this, the elder son of the hindu family became sikh to protect the Hindus from the Islamic invaders.
The Sikhs seem to have forgotten this. Their ancestors were Hindus. Just like the "M" community the Sikhs are behaving like they have no connection with the Hindus. The problem with both these communities is that they only know one thing barbarism. They are just so ignorant. The only thing they know is taking up weapons and killing Hindus!
Na that's not happening we are thankful to have a party which follows exponential appeasement model.The more u push the more they appease.U RW can do nothing no amount of online comments can change the conventional narrative .Sit back and vote for sweet secular bhajpa else continue ranting on social media for life
@@brar1320 well said, i don't see why the nationalists or central gov can't just have a dialogue on the issues the punjabis face
Shabaig Singh was in touch with Pakistan's isi folks army used some other way to throw him to save the image of Indian army it was politics but good politics
Surprisingly low viewership - probably THE BEST Carvaka podcast ever!
Very Informative
नौकरी ना होने पर अलग देश की मांग करने से इश्यू सॉल्व हो जाता है
ye kaunsa Talveen Singh fan base hai yaha? Lol. I am not against it, but goddamn, just the sheer amount of comments praising her. And then there's a Khalistani delusional roaming around the comment section, so that's there. And some people are confused about her politics; sums it up, Ig.
Now you won't have to scroll through the comment section, and as a token of gratitude, UPI Kushal Rs. 1.
What's her politics
Love your Podcast Kushal 👌🤗
Although I was student of Panjab University in 70ties at Chandigarh and remember the time and events.Always knew he was product Congress and Giani Zail Singh helped him.Only today I came to know from Tavleen Singh that it was Sanjay Gandhi, quite revealing.Very ENLIGHTENING and refreshing.
Great job, Shekhar gupta try to portray bhindi as religious and with principle. Same way Bollywood shows his villains
Sant jarnail singh bhindrawa;e was great indeed. Your subramanium swami gets it moreover listen to the speeches before forming a prejudice. Or stay brainwashed by hindu media idgaf
Painting entire Jaat Sikhs with single brush is so wrong. I am not denying that the majority of the khalistani were Jaat Sikhs but there were also the Rajput Sikhs and Sikhs from other caste too. We should refrain from making swiping statements.
I love when Tavleen ji condescends 😅
Excellent and very relevant interview with Tavleen! It makes so much sense!
It was not taking on GOI it is taking on the govt. in delhi / Red fort like it was in old days of Mughals ...
Which is GOI, can't tell if you're being negationist or something else but Khalistan is hatred for Hindus, what else would be the treatment of a Hindu Power in Supremacy if they come face to face with it ? That's what happened in Delhi
I do not agree with bhindrawale ideology but you are not the best and know situation.
Ohhh wow ❤
Awesome wholesome podcast. Thanks 🙏 . Jai Hind 🇮🇳
I am from a jat Sikh farmer family in Punjab. I second Tavleen's "appreciation" of chauvinist mentality of our community.
Btw KPS Gill was also a Jat Sikh.So was Bhindranwaley & So is Amritpal Singh, so was our national hero Shaheed Bhagat Singh 😅
Btw I seriously feel this "Amritpal phenomenon" is a repeat of Indira Gandhi 's playbook - Central agencies trying to stir trouble in Punjab, create a problem which then can be "countered" by "strong" Modi govt to win votes around India Over "nationalism" . Btw I am a staunch nationalist, support most of Modi govt policies. But we can see through what central govt is attempting to achieve in Punjab.
Don’t go by conspiracy theories
You have too narrow view of BJP. They would never try to break the historical bond between Hindus and Sikh just for a state election. Indira was evil, was in bed with islamists and communists. Not the same with Modi.
@@lopu8000 mighty Indian state ( all govts and security + Intel agencies) failing to nab a fugitive despite trailing him all along, could only mean either of the two things - either it's full of shear incompetence or its "compromised" with the fugitive. And the way our media - especially the "nationalist media" built this Amritpal guy up, the way agencies have been giving him a free pass has been so easy to spot i.e. the political motives & strategy in play of "powers that be"
@@jasha9sandhu yeah okay but with these types of hypothesis. There is nothing absolute. What you are trying to prove is really good to the ears. But na you can never prove that. And yeah mostly Punjab government has taken actions so it's good to them more. Some people do say that 'now kejriwal has entered Punjab now it will be easy for them to make khalistan'. It helps AAP more and cancels that narrative. And i don't think Modi will get votes for how he or his government has handled the Punjab situation.
I don't think it's modi plan to raise khalistan issue ,bjp has seen those havoc of those times ,
how congress used bhindrawala and then he went out of their hand ,so I don't see any connection, it is conspiracy theories only ,
infact we can see aap party people with khalistani guys ,
Sodi sewa hoyi ni kada , koii ni lagju pata educated foxes ..
so he was right the lady who plucks her eyebrows lol first time i am hearing such a comment where bhindranwale thought he was guru himself fanatical thinking lol what drug is she on
She’s clearly a hater
I could not help but laugh at the fact that much of bhindrawala’s ideology on keeping your hair was all because this one woman plucks her eyebrows 😂😂😂😂😂
Kushal how u managed to bring tavleen to ur show? So u r big time now. Hahahahahaha
47:13 Guru kalgidhar Shahenshah da aashirwaad hai bss
I thought U ask much more important questions .
U didn't
Like how many Hindus were killed .
How Hindus perceived Sikhs then ??
Was there schism between Normal Sikhs and Indian state ?
..... Couldn't have Indira G waited more months before final operation ??
I started listening to this & in the first 6 minutes, she said so many lies😂😂
Why the General Shabigh Singh ---- who created Mukthi Bahini, was Removed from Army ???
Tell the story .
Was he the One who planted hate for Hindus or for the Indian State within Bhindrennwale ??
How did we create Hatred for Hindus he was a hero of the Indian Army, even the key player of giving Bangledesh Liberation from Pakistan
Poor little umar khalid😂
Indra created pindeyan wala. Caused so some damage to Punjab and later strife between communities
Surprised that she accepted an invite to talk here at all, given the right leaning nature of topics discussed here
I respect her for criticising Bhindranwale but she was outright adharic, being a jat woman you ended up loving a porki spy ?? You couldn't find anyone who was a sikh or a hindu let alone castes ?? I need to know this from her ki sada abdul aidaan ni haiga jidaan tusi sochde ho ??
Punjab was the frontier of islamic onslaught and we are the victims u need to understand this that over thousands of years we have fought them and eventually they got the best of us.... let me know if u agree ?
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Tusi tavleenji ehe ni suneya....??
Bal chhuutakoi bandhan pare kachoo na hot upaaye
Kaho Nanak ab ott har gajj jyon hin sahayee
Sangh sakha sab taj gaye
Kouu naa nibhyo sath
Kaho Nanak ehe bipat main tek ek Raghunath
Did u not know that Jatt sikhs i would call them sikhs and sikhs only who fought for Ayodhya Ram janam bhumi ???
U need to understand that we the sikhs the buddhists the jains and the hindus are on brink of extinction??? Mam get your facts right
Anti sikh through out the podcast. Dharmas of all kind is revered in sikhi, doesn't mean they were "hindu"
Tremendous comments Ms Tavleen Singh🙏🙏🙏🙏 great knowledge, all Sikhs and Punjabi Hindus shd listen to her seriously
Tavleen is an extraordinarily brave lady! What a clear thinking strong woman!
Kitna jhooth bolegi ye aurat
Today Mr channan sidhu also tells everybody this that khalsa was born not because of Muslim but because of Hindus all fight was between Hindu and Muslim
So why these so called Hindu rakshak blabber so much if you were a constraint born
Indira se fatt ti thi sbhi ki😂
Hala ki uske paas topa nhi tha
Pr sbko vo tope pe rkhti thi😆
Sharm krlo sharm sachhi
So Khalsa is NOT the Aim and Sole reason for Sikhism.
Nanaks teachings have more relevance .
Khalsa is just an episode or Chapter in Sikhism needed , created by Guru Gobind Sikh because of extreme cruelty of Mughals .
So Khalsa should be detached from Sikhism.
Sikhs should stop 5 Ks and Stop taking about Khalsa.
How will this happen ??
good conversation but how would you say bhindrawale a butcher. he never killed a single man . he was saheed . a real butcher is kps gilll
Both are butcher ….Have u ever heard any saint wanted to kill 5000 innocent people … now please don’t justify the act by giving foolish reasons …. Any saint won’t ever talk about killing no matter the reason
Everything went well until ‘Bharkha, best reporter’ really?
Whys is the opinion quite the opposite from what Shekhar Gupta said on the Print Video?
Wow what a lovely woman, bless her for speaking truth and even I'd it means standing against her own
Thanks Kushal for this podcast..loves hearing Tavleen
45:16..... beg to differ ma'am, ruined the whole podcast.
What a Bullshit
Ms Tavleen Singh is perhaps the only person who Bhinderanwale couldn't bully.
Sant bhindrawale never bullied any one idiot
lol, she left crying many times.
Tavl3en singh can do justice.😢
@KushalMehra great interview. Great to liaten to TavleenSingh. The Indian Govt. doesn't seem to have the necessary EQ to do governance (regardless of the party). Punjab seems to be floating and gloating in drugs, religious conversions and foreign interference.
O bhai hindi wale bhi bhindra wale hi bolenge.
Fantastic.
Well Tavleen Singh is most honest and bipartisan journalist in this hyper polarised atmosphere. She's the only journalist who talks some sense. She's the reason I stopped blindly following Modi Cult. 😊
BREAKING NEWS : Talveen Singh to Join the BJP
Good Show🎉🎉
subheg, faught for pension, i mean really?
that's your level of analysis?!
Imagine dedicating all your life to fighitng for the desh and Indian Army just to be accused of corruption and not been given the honors you deserve after fighting 3 wars. I think anyone rational would also be superpissed off
Please call her again and talk about current affairs
Bad episode
Tavleen aunty still looks as charming as she was in her younger years ❤
Sigh😒😒😒
Uncle kabhi Q@A session lo, kai sawaal puchne he aapse. AIM ko bhi le aao.
Totally bullshit 😂