There is a good old obscure word which describes people who are experts in one field trying to be experts in another field in which they are not so competent -it's called being ULTRACREPIDARIAN -comes from the Latin meaning "beyond the shoe" and is described by the Roman writer Pliny who tells the story of the Greek painter Apelles being corrected by a shoemaker over the way Apelles painted a shoe in a painting of a man -Apelles took notice of the critique about the shoe but when the shoemaker began to find other faults in the painting Apelles told him -don't go beyond the shoe-that's all you are an expert in.
@@valhatan3907 That type of person is known as a polymath or a Renaissance man -the Leonardo da Vinci type who excelled in art,sciences and a few other fields -not many around -not even Einstein!
This is why 'beginners mind' is so important. It's a great habit to fact check one's self constantly and question beliefs one holds. I've learned to enjoy telling people, "I was wrong, you got it right". But then, my motto for decades has been, "I'd rather know the truth than be right." I didn't start there, I started always having to be 'right'. All I had to do was decades of work to grow as a person. : )
”The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.” Bertrand Russell.
The narcosissit will want to swap place with the victim by victimzing it self and steal the victim role in life. When in reality, the victims are not interested to see their filthy and miserable perspective about life, they are strugling to show their own disstorsioned thoughts and opinions with any price and have no thinking, on the way they affect others. They can not comprehend to distance them self, as we normal people, are not doctors or psychoterapeuts for their mental illnes and incapacity to distinguish their inner-side (ID, Ego, Super-ego, autenticity, autonomy, credibility, results, effects , analytical brains they lack ) . They transfer them self into victim life and steal the whole existence, because they can not comprehend their own identity, own ego and what they are made of. It is a whole parasitic hanging on other´s life, with no purpose , with no goals, only to disrupt and drag others down for no reason. There is only in their brain the fact that they are educated, they have family or happines. It is a desillusion of the ill trait. Thay don´´t have the capacity to leave, to give up when they are not wanted , bcz thier brain function is at the level of a toddler , they want to be where they fell that they are comfortable, without thinking that they harm those persons which are around them. They are nagging, they are constantly talking other things than it have to be said or imporatnt, they disstorsion the victim reallity with their awful manipulation and bullshiting. The outside factors are even more damagine the vixtim because many stupid people out there belive in the narcissist lies. They are able to invent a spyderweb full of lies, and they live in that lies forever. Because this is their brain understanding. I dont know why they are allowed to stay free to make more victims.
My current job taught me that every policy can be interpreted differently and sometimes policies was just written for a specific case and cannot be generalised. A second opinion is always good to have.
We see this everywhere these days, and it's causing so many problems. I've noticed a very real correlation between ignorance and arrogance; very few people I know who are truly brilliant are also arrogant.
The plasticity of human intelligence has been the greatest gift of evolution. The neuroscience behind our ability to continuously learn and acquire different habits is absolutely wild! All of these discoveries would have been impossible without the intelligence humility and the acceptance of uncertainty in particular studies conducted then the attempts to overcome that. Basically, brain go brrrrrrr and I don't know why.
Yes it is one of the greatest gifts....but it cannot be let loose to do anything it is capable of,it needs to be controlled and monitored by codes of law and ethics and the precepts of religion,otherwise it will end up in chaos and disaster.
High IQ is acquired and is field related. If you find a low IQ in your related field please avoid that person. Einstein may not be a good cook but had excellent IQ as a physicist. That’s why he never argued with his cook.
❤️ Nothing is cement certain! We grow when we update our knowledge, learn and unlearn and learn. Being intellectually humility really surprises you when you learn that you were in the dark about a certain thing. That's a humbling experience.
Definitely agree with 4:11 part. When we perceive the intellegenece as something that grows as we work hard to aquire more knowledge we get more humble about our capabilities and try to learn more that when we think it as an inherent trait that has put us automatically well ahead of many people. I was victim of this for long.
There is a state in India called Tamil Nadu. The people in those states are very humble. The reason is that they were thought this Dunning’ Kroger effect thousands of years ago. They have this known statement “Known is amount of sand in the fist , Unknown is total sand in the world”. This was written by a saint 2000 years ago.
I just think of it as there is the real world, and it operates on wholly logical principles, and then each of us individually have an emotional world (where we "feel" what it right) and it operates on our pleasure and pain principles. We just have to self-reflect on the times when our emotional world is trying to over-ride the real world, and readjust. It doesn't mean we're always wrong when our emotional world tries to take over, but you can't force the square peg into the round hole either.
Perhaps this is a result of the accelerating and increasing complexity of human society in which people feel called upon and compelled to 'know' - albeit in a hopelessly superficial fashion - all manner of things, whether about technology, geopolitics, medicine, etc., therefore when faced with overwhelm people stick to an opinion that becomes an identity of sorts and, consequently, it is very hard for intellectual humility to shift it as such a stance when contradicted, challenged, doubted or proven to be wrong, is perceived as a personal attack.
I try to get into the habit of not underestimating even the tiniest problem or factor of anything I do, because it's all too often been the thing I've taken for granted that makes me have to backtrack. Yes, the less you know, the less you know you don't know, and the reverse effect (Kruger-Dunning, maybe they should call it) is the more you know, the more you're likely to underestimate it or assume everyone else knows better, because you realise how much you don't know.
Based on American media and politics, I’m curious as to whether the majority of genuinely intellectually humble individuals also identify as introverts?
This has all come about because people have been taught to guess first with their ideas and so disregard any forensic approach to forming them. So humility doesn't even have to come into it, just a proper approach to discussion and what empirical science reveals.
I liked the topic but the animations were too busy and distracting that I had to turn away from the screen to actually follow what they were saying. Too bad, says something about how tired I am this morning... I would suggest using less busy animations though..
Did anyone else detect the irony of not mentioning a middle ground between the "growth" and "fixed" mindsets? I am sure we can grow, but I am also sure some people are particularly screwed from the start. Not everyone for either of course, which is actually the point.
OK, a growth mindset with regard to human intelligence is more conducive to intellectual humility than a fixed mindset is, but which account of human intelligence is actually *true*? *Is* human intelligence something fixed, or can it grow in anyone indefinitely?
How is this new? Have you considered Socrates' message from Delphi? Or the saying of Confucius, "The wise never argue with fools, as bystanders cannot tell the difference." How much have such words as "Sale," "New," and "Recent," become thoughtlessly used cliches
@@massimookissed1023 That's not what I asked. Start at 3:25 and you will hear her say " people who were higher in cognitive ability were more conservative in their assessment of their cognitive ability" I think she meant people who were higher in intellectual humility....
Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general. Ordinary person with Dunning-Kruger effect is only bad to one self but when leader with lots of power has Dunning-Kruger effect that leader can cause lots of problem to all, for example the communist china party/CCP and putin.
The world has been incentivising the loud and brash. So much of "put yourself out there", "blow your own horn" etc. No one should be surprised when the individual who just did a 2 day bootcamp then believes he/she is the newest leading expert in the whole wide world.
As a dissenting opinion I point out that most profs are bad teachers. If you understand your subject well enough younshould be able to explain it to your grandmother. It seems most do not and are pedantic about it . I suspect Dunning Kruger is popular among this set of barely knowledgeable instructors as a defense against the "uneducated" questioners.
I would arguethat professors have trained in researching their subject and not as teachers. That may be a reason why they are not necessarily good at getting their message across too well in lectures.
I am lost. What does this have to do with racism, nationalism, capitalism, sexism and all the human ideological droppings littered on this planet? What's the cure? humans cannot resist the urge to hurt. even with a college degree.
And what do you call when you're fighting to get an answer and everyone else is purposely ignoring the question? ROTATE THE MICHELSON MORLEY INTERFEROMETER VERTICALLY!
This “new” idea sounds rather a lot like the beginner’s mind of 2500-year old Buddhist, Yogic and Taoist teachings. The exciting thing is that it can be taught in schools from a young age in an ecumenical way that helps people understand the (unreliable) nature of the human mind. My favourite teaching from Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh is “Are you sure?” 🙏🏻
and this is classic western ideologies. you are not what you think you are because you did not graduate from a recognized institution. so then should we not be digging into who were the actual qualified ones who gave us the past knowledge.
A GOOD ARTICLE WOULD BE ABOUT WHY IS THE WORLD POLARIZED. THIS VIDEO IS A MINUSCULE PATCH. BUT THEN, IT'S FROM FROM ONE OF THE MAIN PROPAGANDA MACHINES OF THOSE THAT MAKE THE WORLD POLARIZED.
Here's the BIGGEST irony: Tenelle Porter at approximately 50 seconds is WRONG. She doesn't KNOW she's wrong and CANNOT know she's wrong, so no shade dude, but she is definitely wrong: And that is because it is possible to have the infallibility of limit-case human completeness that she is unaware of. One such example includes Christ. Of course, not having MET Christ, she could not know she is wrong (as stated). But she is wrong nonetheless. Peace.
What if we/ u r wrong about being embarassed or accepting u r wrong. Anything finde as long as u do the right thing. U can be fooled into intellectual humility like my dad..lol
“I still live at home, just graduated so I have no world experience or accomplishments, but, I know absolutely everything, I’m perfect and any facts that prove my opinions are wrong or different opinions to mine are offensive!” ~ Every Millennial ever.
Yeah- well that’s exactly the problem isn’t it? They all fucked it, and none of them are raising their hands and accepting responsibility, and yet they are all collectively quite selfishly trying to repair their rightfully tarnished reputations while trying to shut down the natural and reasonable consequence: people thinking for themselves. I think this is quite transparently a push-back from the institutions which have failed us, a soft attempt to discredit the child’s opinions since now weened from his mother’s teet he is dangerously beginning to think for himself. I don’t think they get that PR is too late. It is what it is, revolutions happen, this one is happening unquestionably, literally right now, and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. They might as well save their breath.
I always find it peculiar that videos like these seem to emerge when something f*cked up happens. For example, should we intellectually humble ourselves to the Christo-Fascists ideas of stripping away our fundamental human rights?
so are u saying that those confident astro physicist and scientist that so confident that they see and know alot that normal people wont be able to understand and wrap our head arround about the universe? probably not.
When I graduated from HS, I thought I was extremely brilliant. When I graduated from college, I was just amazed at my limitations and how little knowledge I possessed. Learning is very humbling.
I'm so pleased that you used the phrase "graduated from highschool" and "from college" which I've not heard nor read in a very long time! I use the same form too, and the other construction just sounds odd and wrong to me as I'm sure you've noticed. It has devolved into "graduated high school" or college or university, and sounds like some sort of measurement of whichever school one is addressing and it grates on my brain the way a pet peeve does. But to each his own, I suppose.
Tolerance is something we really need in today's world. If you don't agree with someone, don't bother them. Tolerance is an important mental asset we all need, especially when dealing with friends, family and groups. We all have out own opinions and beliefs, if we can't agree with them let them be!
@Mr. Fossil -- Tolerance can only go so far as the acceptance that thoughts and beliefs are harmless. If an individual idolizes Adolf Hitler and espouses that idolization in ways, such as teaching children to hate others, do you tolerate or stand up to those beliefs? The current crop of Flat Earthers or Young Earth Creationists are actively recruiting young adults and children to "raise up the new armies of believers." Do you tolerate their conspiracy theories or call them out?
And the wisdom & humility to realise that many things we thought were known are actually wrong so remain unknown; the ability to have eyes + wide open to imagine different truths & realities = creativity? To question everything no matter how often it's been copied & pasted & passed around and from one generation to the next and therefore is accepted as 'fact'; to have the courage to be able to disagree with accepted beliefs & 'norms'; in other words: dare to be different? Ask lots of questions & interrogate the answers we receive and robustly inspect the 'evidence' provided; good fakes can fool 'experts'. Someone once said to me that there is no truth - only points of view (opinions) = often true but occasionally there are some basic 'truths' which are very very (but almost never 100%) certain; rough estimates and working diagnoses - being rewritten and refined for ever...
The problem with this video is that it tries to use a single measure, intelligence when there are actually two measures. Intelligence is the potential to learn and remember while this video neglects the other measure that's been well known all through history namely wisdom. Wisdom is the measure of the ability to properly use what intelligence provides. Trying to create new terms in order to avoid using the well known term is in fact an example of the effect that this video is about.
Wisdom has to do more with life experiences than about knowledge. That's why wisdom is mostly associated with the elderly. Knowledge does play a part however. Some younger people can also be considered wise but these people have gathered much life experiences in their short time on earth.
@@kikitaughtme Wisdom is being able to see the probable consequences of an act, the older you are the more often you are able to make wise decisions because of experience but experience is only one way to wisdom, actual thoughtfulness is the best way to practice wisdom.
@@kikitaughtme I don't necessarily agree. Life experiences can expose you to more knowledge, but knowledge is what's important to wisdom. You can easily find knowledgeable teenagers who are wiser than some elderly. It depends on how much knowledge you've been exposed to and how varied it is. For example, a professor who had only studied one subject his whole life isn't likely to be wise. But a well-read person who'd been reading various topics from a young age is more likely to develop wisdom. intelligence + wide knowledge = wisdom and to link it to the video, being more intellectually humble leads to learn more and be more open minded to different topics so, this makes you more likely to develop wisdom. So the secret of wisdom is wide knowledge and intellectual humbleness.
I always believe this aspect... Bookish knowledge is always inferior to natural experience..the essence of this video discussion.... scholar underestimate others inferior in qualification..dark side of being educated
To begin with, there are different kinds of intelligences beyond the verbal and logical intelligences. Also, with aging, our verbal and logical intelligences change. In my 20s and 30s I used to be brilliant, including scoring very high on IQ tests. I was very quick in comprehending ideas,in seeing connections and in verbalizing them. Nowadays, as an older woman, I am significantly less intelligent in that way. My reasoning is slower. I have however, come to understand better the limits of my abilities.
I think it's important to those who'd rather not have to deal with others communicating with each other? - Exchanging Data with others is the only way to learn or improve upon what we think we know?
Absolutely agree, if more of the world possessed intellectual humility we would be in a much better place right now. I’m 75 and firmly believe that my problem solving ability is better now than it ever was ; simply as a result of learning , experience and practice. Davox.
If only everyone are aware of their own limitation and you know ... be more humble. Because ignorance is within everyone. Tired to see _people_ whose so smug about their knowledge and refuse criticism (by someone they see as inferior) or even new ideas. Especially my experience in this thing called internet. _Even more frustrating when a person pointing ignorance or cockiness of somebody else and not self-reflecting it to themselves (which is why I hate myself)._
There is also the reverse: intelligent people do not realize that others do not do their "homework." So the uniformed are confident while the knowledgeable have, very real, doubts.
well I think that whether we are right or wrong, we must be decisive and that is why we must do like what we think that's right at that moment. because if we do not then we will always live in doubts. ~myself~
We have to get better at saying “I don’t know”. Even our LLM AI models can’t admit that they don’t know, they admit to mistakes okay but then deliver even worse information to the user than they did previously.
The government and big pharma could have avoided all the problems and questioning if they would have been more open and honest about what was going on instead of dismissing our concerns
My grandmother told me once “Everyone is ignorant. Just in
different subjects. “
There is a good old obscure word which describes people who are experts in one field trying to be experts in another field in which they are not so competent -it's called being ULTRACREPIDARIAN -comes from the Latin meaning "beyond the shoe" and is described by the Roman writer Pliny who tells the story of the Greek painter Apelles being corrected by a shoemaker over the way Apelles painted a shoe in a painting of a man -Apelles took notice of the critique about the shoe but when the shoemaker began to find other faults in the painting Apelles told him -don't go beyond the shoe-that's all you are an expert in.
@@kaloarepo288 isn't that basically to not commenting something outside your field of understanding? What about people with jack-of-all-trades?
I love that quote. It's dictate self-reflection, something that people lacks these days smh.
@@valhatan3907 That type of person is known as a polymath or a Renaissance man -the Leonardo da Vinci type who excelled in art,sciences and a few other fields -not many around -not even Einstein!
“The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.” - Albert Einstein
The only thing I know is that 'I don't know'
-socrates
@Абдул Вахид Ignorance is like flying in air,blissfull only untill you hit the ground
Wasn't that said by Socrates, tho?
i've been saying this my whole life and didn't realize it was said by Einstein: am i THAT smart?
@@bobbylee9727 the moment you think you are smart,you become dumb enough
This is why 'beginners mind' is so important. It's a great habit to fact check one's self constantly and question beliefs one holds. I've learned to enjoy telling people, "I was wrong, you got it right". But then, my motto for decades has been, "I'd rather know the truth than be right." I didn't start there, I started always having to be 'right'. All I had to do was decades of work to grow as a person.
: )
Exactly!❤
”The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”
Bertrand Russell.
It works between people who are *not* narcissistic.
Being narcissistic is the very core of this problem.
The narcosissit will want to swap place with the victim by victimzing it self and steal the victim role in life.
When in reality, the victims are not interested to see their filthy and miserable perspective about life, they are strugling to show their own disstorsioned thoughts and opinions with any price and have no thinking, on the way they affect others.
They can not comprehend to distance them self, as we normal people, are not doctors or psychoterapeuts for their mental illnes and incapacity to distinguish their inner-side (ID, Ego, Super-ego, autenticity, autonomy, credibility, results, effects , analytical brains they lack ) .
They transfer them self into victim life and steal the whole existence, because they can not comprehend their own identity, own ego and what they are made of.
It is a whole parasitic hanging on other´s life, with no purpose , with no goals, only to disrupt and drag others down for no reason. There is only in their brain the fact that they are educated, they have family or happines. It is a desillusion of the ill trait.
Thay don´´t have the capacity to leave, to give up when they are not wanted , bcz thier brain function is at the level of a toddler , they want to be where they fell that they are comfortable, without thinking that they harm those persons which are around them.
They are nagging, they are constantly talking other things than it have to be said or imporatnt, they disstorsion the victim reallity with their awful manipulation and bullshiting. The outside factors are even more damagine the vixtim because many stupid people out there belive in the narcissist lies. They are able to invent a spyderweb full of lies, and they live in that lies forever. Because this is their brain understanding. I dont know why they are allowed to stay free to make more victims.
I know someone who's a narcissist... DT .. donald truck
My current job taught me that every policy can be interpreted differently and sometimes policies was just written for a specific case and cannot be generalised. A second opinion is always good to have.
This video to me has been the best description of what the Dunning-Kruger effect is. Thank you for putting it out there.
We see this everywhere these days, and it's causing so many problems. I've noticed a very real correlation between ignorance and arrogance; very few people I know who are truly brilliant are also arrogant.
Fantastic, tightly packed presentation. I hope this will be widely shared on social media.
I doubt it. People hate admitting they are wrong when they are passionate about a cause or ideology.
If only!!
The plasticity of human intelligence has been the greatest gift of evolution. The neuroscience behind our ability to continuously learn and acquire different habits is absolutely wild! All of these discoveries would have been impossible without the intelligence humility and the acceptance of uncertainty in particular studies conducted then the attempts to overcome that.
Basically, brain go brrrrrrr and I don't know why.
Yes it is one of the greatest gifts....but it cannot be let loose to do anything it is capable of,it needs to be controlled and monitored by codes of law and ethics and the precepts of religion,otherwise it will end up in chaos and disaster.
"Of course, I believe that, but I could be wrong." Lol, I was wondering if someone would say it.
High IQ is acquired and is field related. If you find a low IQ in your related field please avoid that person. Einstein may not be a good cook but had excellent IQ as a physicist. That’s why he never argued with his cook.
❤️ Nothing is cement certain! We grow when we update our knowledge, learn and unlearn and learn.
Being intellectually humility really surprises you when you learn that you were in the dark about a certain thing. That's a humbling experience.
"OF COURSE I believe that but I could be wrong"
Nice display of dichotomous intellectual humility
But when it concerns divine believe or accepted and proven scientific laws we need to to be 100 % sure and steadfast in our stance.
Definitely agree with 4:11 part. When we perceive the intellegenece as something that grows as we work hard to aquire more knowledge we get more humble about our capabilities and try to learn more that when we think it as an inherent trait that has put us automatically well ahead of many people.
I was victim of this for long.
There is a state in India called Tamil Nadu. The people in those states are very humble. The reason is that they were thought this Dunning’ Kroger effect thousands of years ago. They have this known statement “Known is amount of sand in the fist , Unknown is total sand in the world”. This was written by a saint 2000 years ago.
I just think of it as there is the real world, and it operates on wholly logical principles, and then each of us individually have an emotional world (where we "feel" what it right) and it operates on our pleasure and pain principles. We just have to self-reflect on the times when our emotional world is trying to over-ride the real world, and readjust. It doesn't mean we're always wrong when our emotional world tries to take over, but you can't force the square peg into the round hole either.
To error is human
To forgive is Devine
Joseph Stalin has been quoted as saying, "Everybody has a right to be stupid. but some people abuse the privilege.".🤔😳
Tell this to mainstream media
Perhaps this is a result of the accelerating and increasing complexity of human society in which people feel called upon and compelled to 'know' - albeit in a hopelessly superficial fashion - all manner of things, whether about technology, geopolitics, medicine, etc., therefore when faced with overwhelm people stick to an opinion that becomes an identity of sorts and, consequently, it is very hard for intellectual humility to shift it as such a stance when contradicted, challenged, doubted or proven to be wrong, is perceived as a personal attack.
" Adopting a growth mindset can help us foster intellectual humility " 👌🏻
and accepting our mistakes as well
I try to get into the habit of not underestimating even the tiniest problem or factor of anything I do, because it's all too often been the thing I've taken for granted that makes me have to backtrack. Yes, the less you know, the less you know you don't know, and the reverse effect (Kruger-Dunning, maybe they should call it) is the more you know, the more you're likely to underestimate it or assume everyone else knows better, because you realise how much you don't know.
The biggest problem humanity has to deal with, especially in this age. And it will get worse.
Nobody knows more about the Kruger Dunning effect than I do! I am an expert on the subject.
Especially BBC reporters.
The BBC does get that it is describing itself.....doesn't it?
Based on American media and politics, I’m curious as to whether the majority of genuinely intellectually humble individuals also identify as introverts?
I believe that all people who are humble in general, have at least been an introvert at one point in time.
How can anyone learn anything if not being taught something first? It shows us how much there really is out there.
Academics are putting on the mantle of humility?! I'm speechless.
Ikr 😂
This has all come about because people have been taught to guess first with their ideas and so disregard any forensic approach to forming them. So humility doesn't even have to come into it, just a proper approach to discussion and what empirical science reveals.
"Why YOU GUYS all fall victim to the Dunning-Kruger effect"
I never fall victim to the Dunning-Kruger effect. I am an expert at determining when I lack expertise.
"I am never wrong. Once I thought I was wrong. But, I was mistaken." Not sure who said that
I liked the topic but the animations were too busy and distracting that I had to turn away from the screen to actually follow what they were saying. Too bad, says something about how tired I am this morning... I would suggest using less busy animations though..
This is hilarious coming from the BBC thanks for making me laugh 😂🤣😂
I recognize I suffer from "Dunning-Kurger effect" , therefore I don't suffer from it? :-D
Did anyone else detect the irony of not mentioning a middle ground between the "growth" and "fixed" mindsets? I am sure we can grow, but I am also sure some people are particularly screwed from the start. Not everyone for either of course, which is actually the point.
OK, a growth mindset with regard to human intelligence is more conducive to intellectual humility than a fixed mindset is, but which account of human intelligence is actually *true*? *Is* human intelligence something fixed, or can it grow in anyone indefinitely?
Hilarious that the BBC has a video about Dunning-Kruger.
How is this new? Have you considered Socrates' message from Delphi? Or the saying of Confucius, "The wise never argue with fools, as bystanders cannot tell the difference." How much have such words as "Sale," "New," and "Recent," become thoughtlessly used cliches
If u r angry at arrogant person that's worse....once action more so than being kinda jerky.
Many jerks cry ??
At 3:25 shouldn't it be "people who were higher in 'intellectual humility' "?
No.
Those who were overconfident in their own abilities (lower humility) performed worse than they thought they had.
@@massimookissed1023 That's not what I asked.
Start at 3:25 and you will hear her say " people who were higher in cognitive ability were more conservative in their assessment of their cognitive ability" I think she meant people who were higher in intellectual humility....
Damn! The comments section is a mess 😐.
Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.
Ordinary person with Dunning-Kruger effect is only bad to one self but when leader with lots of power has Dunning-Kruger effect that leader can cause lots of problem to all, for example the communist china party/CCP and putin.
You can take a horse to water but you can't make it think ;-)
-as an idealist I'm compelled to be optimistic about 'our' future but ..... ;-/
First rule of Dunning-Kruger Club:
You don't realise you're in.
Where did he said that at what minute? Where did you figure out ?
The world has been incentivising the loud and brash. So much of "put yourself out there", "blow your own horn" etc. No one should be surprised when the individual who just did a 2 day bootcamp then believes he/she is the newest leading expert in the whole wide world.
As a dissenting opinion I point out that most profs are bad teachers. If you understand your subject well enough younshould be able to explain it to your grandmother. It seems most do not and are pedantic about it . I suspect Dunning Kruger is popular among this set of barely knowledgeable instructors as a defense against the "uneducated" questioners.
I would arguethat professors have trained in researching their subject and not as teachers. That may be a reason why they are not necessarily good at getting their message across too well in lectures.
I am lost. What does this have to do with racism, nationalism, capitalism, sexism and all the human ideological droppings littered on this planet? What's the cure? humans cannot resist the urge to hurt. even with a college degree.
I'm not that smart, but I could be wrong
So the world is not flat?
basicly arrogance, why would you not be in position not to recognize your own arrogance?
I am in the top 10% of people who realize they don’t know what they are doing. I am sure of this.
And what do you call when you're fighting to get an answer and everyone else is purposely ignoring the question? ROTATE THE MICHELSON MORLEY INTERFEROMETER VERTICALLY!
This “new” idea sounds rather a lot like the beginner’s mind of 2500-year old Buddhist, Yogic and Taoist teachings. The exciting thing is that it can be taught in schools from a young age in an ecumenical way that helps people understand the (unreliable) nature of the human mind.
My favourite teaching from Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh is “Are you sure?” 🙏🏻
and this is classic western ideologies. you are not what you think you are because you did not graduate from a recognized institution. so then should we not be digging into who were the actual qualified ones who gave us the past knowledge.
With the whole BBC archive? you use generic stock footage. 😳 Come on auntie!
A GOOD ARTICLE WOULD BE ABOUT WHY IS THE WORLD POLARIZED. THIS VIDEO IS A MINUSCULE PATCH. BUT THEN, IT'S FROM FROM ONE OF THE MAIN PROPAGANDA MACHINES OF THOSE THAT MAKE THE WORLD POLARIZED.
So boris has how much?
Put this into school education
In other words act more like children when it comes to learning
Here's the BIGGEST irony: Tenelle Porter at approximately 50 seconds is WRONG. She doesn't KNOW she's wrong and CANNOT know she's wrong, so no shade dude, but she is definitely wrong: And that is because it is possible to have the infallibility of limit-case human completeness that she is unaware of. One such example includes Christ. Of course, not having MET Christ, she could not know she is wrong (as stated). But she is wrong nonetheless. Peace.
Vocal fry.... 😝
This is basically Joe Rogan in a nutshell.
What if we/ u r wrong about being embarassed or accepting u r wrong. Anything finde as long as u do the right thing. U can be fooled into intellectual humility like my dad..lol
Fallor ego sum
idiots, bigotry, narcs and over confidence just do and judge, intelligent think and never underestimate before do and judge😀
“I still live at home, just graduated so I have no world experience or accomplishments, but, I know absolutely everything, I’m perfect and any facts that prove my opinions are wrong or different opinions to mine are offensive!” ~ Every Millennial ever.
Listen to 'The experts' .. we know how that went down in 2020 and 2021....
Yeah- well that’s exactly the problem isn’t it? They all fucked it, and none of them are raising their hands and accepting responsibility, and yet they are all collectively quite selfishly trying to repair their rightfully tarnished reputations while trying to shut down the natural and reasonable consequence: people thinking for themselves. I think this is quite transparently a push-back from the institutions which have failed us, a soft attempt to discredit the child’s opinions since now weened from his mother’s teet he is dangerously beginning to think for himself.
I don’t think they get that PR is too late. It is what it is, revolutions happen, this one is happening unquestionably, literally right now, and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. They might as well save their breath.
And if you want to be smarter turn this off. Know little or nothing about something WOW the BBC 🤣😂🤣
I don't usually look into social media for intellectual expertise so these confident types offering advice are best ignored
I always find it peculiar that videos like these seem to emerge when something f*cked up happens. For example, should we intellectually humble ourselves to the Christo-Fascists ideas of stripping away our fundamental human rights?
Mind your own business
The dictionary definition of DK are flat earthers.
Religious zealots are the worst offenders...lol.
Hahhahahahahahah
so are u saying that those confident astro physicist and scientist that so confident that they see and know alot that normal people wont be able to understand and wrap our head arround about the universe? probably not.
When I graduated from HS, I thought I was extremely brilliant. When I graduated from college, I was just amazed at my limitations and how little knowledge I possessed. Learning is very humbling.
I'm so pleased that you used the phrase "graduated from highschool" and "from college" which I've not heard nor read in a very long time! I use the same form too, and the other construction just sounds odd and wrong to me as I'm sure you've noticed. It has devolved into "graduated high school" or college or university, and sounds like some sort of measurement of whichever school one is addressing and it grates on my brain the way a pet peeve does. But to each his own, I suppose.
im about to finish college and about to start applying for jobs but feel like im very under prepared for it.
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@@JustinK0 What did you study, if you don't mind my question?
Tolerance is something we really need in today's world.
If you don't agree with someone, don't bother them.
Tolerance is an important mental asset we all need, especially when dealing with friends, family and groups.
We all have out own opinions and beliefs, if we can't agree with them let them be!
@Mr. Fossil -- Tolerance can only go so far as the acceptance that thoughts and beliefs are harmless. If an individual idolizes Adolf Hitler and espouses that idolization in ways, such as teaching children to hate others, do you tolerate or stand up to those beliefs? The current crop of Flat Earthers or Young Earth Creationists are actively recruiting young adults and children to "raise up the new armies of believers." Do you tolerate their conspiracy theories or call them out?
"Only by acknowledging what is known as known and what is unknown as unknown can we acquire true knowledge." - Confucius
And the wisdom & humility to realise that many things we thought were known are actually wrong so remain unknown; the ability to have eyes + wide open to imagine different truths & realities = creativity? To question everything no matter how often it's been copied & pasted & passed around and from one generation to the next and therefore is accepted as 'fact'; to have the courage to be able to disagree with accepted beliefs & 'norms'; in other words: dare to be different?
Ask lots of questions & interrogate the answers we receive and robustly inspect the 'evidence' provided; good fakes can fool 'experts'.
Someone once said to me that there is no truth - only points of view (opinions) = often true but occasionally there are some basic 'truths' which are very very (but almost never 100%) certain; rough estimates and working diagnoses - being rewritten and refined for ever...
The problem with this video is that it tries to use a single measure, intelligence when there are actually two measures. Intelligence is the potential to learn and remember while this video neglects the other measure that's been well known all through history namely wisdom. Wisdom is the measure of the ability to properly use what intelligence provides. Trying to create new terms in order to avoid using the well known term is in fact an example of the effect that this video is about.
Wisdom has to do more with life experiences than about knowledge. That's why wisdom is mostly associated with the elderly. Knowledge does play a part however. Some younger people can also be considered wise but these people have gathered much life experiences in their short time on earth.
@@kikitaughtme Wisdom is being able to see the probable consequences of an act, the older you are the more often you are able to make wise decisions because of experience but experience is only one way to wisdom, actual thoughtfulness is the best way to practice wisdom.
@@kikitaughtme I don't necessarily agree. Life experiences can expose you to more knowledge, but knowledge is what's important to wisdom. You can easily find knowledgeable teenagers who are wiser than some elderly. It depends on how much knowledge you've been exposed to and how varied it is. For example, a professor who had only studied one subject his whole life isn't likely to be wise. But a well-read person who'd been reading various topics from a young age is more likely to develop wisdom.
intelligence + wide knowledge = wisdom
and to link it to the video, being more intellectually humble leads to learn more and be more open minded to different topics so, this makes you more likely to develop wisdom.
So the secret of wisdom is wide knowledge and intellectual humbleness.
I think you could pretty soundly argue that intellectual humility is a pretty sure indicator of wisdom :)
"It's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves".
-Franz Kafka.
I always believe this aspect... Bookish knowledge is always inferior to natural experience..the essence of this video discussion.... scholar underestimate others inferior in qualification..dark side of being educated
To begin with, there are different kinds of intelligences beyond the verbal and logical intelligences. Also, with aging, our verbal and logical intelligences change. In my 20s and 30s I used to be brilliant, including scoring very high on IQ tests. I was very quick in comprehending ideas,in seeing connections and in verbalizing them. Nowadays, as an older woman, I am significantly less intelligent in that way. My reasoning is slower. I have however, come to understand better the limits of my abilities.
I used to be brilliant... at IQ tests?
I think it's important to those who'd rather not have to deal with others communicating with each other? - Exchanging Data with others is the only way to learn or improve upon what we think we know?
The real problem today is intellectual honesty.
If we all make errors, does this mean the Dunning - Kruger effect is wrong?
Is anyone else thinking of Justin Trudeau while viewing this?
Absolutely agree, if more of the world possessed intellectual humility we would be in a much better place right now. I’m 75 and firmly believe that my problem solving ability is better now than it ever was ; simply as a result of learning , experience and practice. Davox.
It is a statistical artifact.
If only everyone are aware of their own limitation and you know ... be more humble. Because ignorance is within everyone.
Tired to see _people_ whose so smug about their knowledge and refuse criticism (by someone they see as inferior) or even new ideas. Especially my experience in this thing called internet.
_Even more frustrating when a person pointing ignorance or cockiness of somebody else and not self-reflecting it to themselves (which is why I hate myself)._
There is also the reverse: intelligent people do not realize that others do not do their "homework." So the uniformed are confident while the knowledgeable have, very real, doubts.
MBA folks are in denial of human fallibility . We, as society, encourage mindless confidence so we are raising a generation of kids messed up.
well I think that whether we are right or wrong, we must be decisive and that is why we must do like what we think that's right at that moment. because if we do not then we will always live in doubts.
~myself~
So it’s settled. If you don’t know what the f*** you’re talking about, stop talking lol 🥴✌️😜
We have to get better at saying “I don’t know”. Even our LLM AI models can’t admit that they don’t know, they admit to mistakes okay but then deliver even worse information to the user than they did previously.
"I know enough to say I don't know enough." - Filboid2000
The government and big pharma could have avoided all the problems and questioning if they would have been more open and honest about what was going on instead of dismissing our concerns
My ex never dose this she is never wrong or humble but that's some how my fault