Thank you, I have learned a lot from many of your (and some other peoples) videos. Beside inspiration the most important is encouragement to find my own way, try and decice by myself according to my own goals and wishes. I am a German, who teached German in Istanbul. For my online lessons in the time of Covid 19 I bought an Rode NT-USB. Now I am 68 and at a good point to try new things, like You Tube. Still sticking to my old microphone, trying "together" to overcome some problems and learning to get the best out of it. It's not written in the datasheet. But by looking to its uniform cardoid frequency response I conclude that my Rode NT-USB (old version) must be an SDC, tested different microphone positions (sound, freedom to move, how it looks) und decided now to use it as an overhead mikrofon. Not out of frame but out of face. 🙂 I do not podcasting, I am sitting in my real living room (sleep, work, relax, eat ...) as "talking head" teaching German as a foreign language for people, who want to get a deeper understanding. So keeping the personal atmosphere of my room is as important as the sound. Though as a next step I am going to do some surgical and removable sound treating: Building with rockwool some sound panels for absorbing at some critical points, in addition my armchairs. Using book shelfs as disposer, ... ( I do not plan to do more than one video in two month, may be in one month. At the moment I need quite a time for my "compositions" and I don't want to live in a studio like place.) For the times I plan to stay at my mother in Germany I will get an 100 € XLR -Dynamic Microfone (may be SE V7) and the small Rode AI-1, with its good headphone output. I think its the best, if no sound treating is possible. And it will be authentic in its own way, sitting in the kitchen which such a microphone. Greetings to you and the world from a German, teaching, learning, living in Istanbul. PS: As you see I am not an English teachers. So sorry for my not perfect, rusty school English.
I record live outdoors acoustic music videos for my UA-cam channel and getting the mic or mics out of the shot is really important to the look. If not out of the shot then definitely away from the face. One person’s noise is another’s ambience, and I like the sense of space that more distant micing gives IF I can’t hear cars, serious wind, construction, etc (these things are noise).
There are a lot of studio TV productions (also news shows) with hidden mics that deliver awful audio. Try listen to some of those with headphones and without the video and you realize that not many TV studios are really treated and suitable for good sound recording.
Personally, I think it's the Edward R. Murrow Effect: you just seem more serious and professional while speaking into a good mic. More authoritative. (Not even sure if Murrow even had a mic in view, but that's the way I picture it.) Second, it's a prop, just like everything else in the frame. Third, not many have the personality to carry a talking head alone. Forth, at least it's a WHOLE LOT BETTER than the speaker in the little box down in the corner. I HATE those.
I saw an Webby Award winning podcast producer using an RE20, and it was 8-12 inches from his mouth. It could've been out of view, if he'd chosen to frame it differently. My point is, that there was no problem making the RE20 sound great by adjusting the EQ appropriately. Also, I don't think the sound-to-noise ratio is going to be different, either way. I agree with Bandrew, it's mostly mimicry. Having a mic in-frame is fashionable, these days. In years to come, people will mock us for our old-fashioned mic-in-frame shenanigans.
Every doubling of distance is a 6 dB drop in signal. So from 2 inches to 8 inches (from the capsule, not the grill) is 12 dB more noise. Proximity also raises the bass frequencies with directional microphones but the RE-20 is mostly immune to this because of its special build.
@@gregmonforton4103 but there are diminishing returns. Once your noise score is about 40 DB below the actual signal. You won’t hear it. I can get a microphone almost just as close boomed, barely out of sight with the shotgun or other hyper cardioid Mic it’s less distracting and sounds just as good. The sound that people love is proximity effect, which I actually prefer not to have when listening to vocals.
@@NakeanWickliff I do some pretty aggressive low cuts to get rid of the mud (proximity) effect in live sound, and I’m grateful to do a lot of live sound mixing that isn’t close mic’d.
One reason... and ONE reason only!! Sound quality. Period. If that means having the mic in the frame, then so be it. Has NOTHING to do with an image issue, or any other copy-cat self indulgence for that matter.
mic in the studio frame is bullsh*t - and guys hiding their face behind a mic is even more stupid. Sorry. It's not about the type of mic - it's a question of mindset - not so much a question of technical mastery
Thank you, I have learned a lot from many of your (and some other peoples) videos. Beside inspiration the most important is encouragement to find my own way, try and decice by myself according to my own goals and wishes. I am a German, who teached German in Istanbul. For my online lessons in the time of Covid 19 I bought an Rode NT-USB. Now I am 68 and at a good point to try new things, like You Tube. Still sticking to my old microphone, trying "together" to overcome some problems and learning to get the best out of it.
It's not written in the datasheet. But by looking to its uniform cardoid frequency response I conclude that my Rode NT-USB (old version) must be an SDC, tested different microphone positions (sound, freedom to move, how it looks) und decided now to use it as an overhead mikrofon. Not out of frame but out of face. 🙂 I do not podcasting, I am sitting in my real living room (sleep, work, relax, eat ...) as "talking head" teaching German as a foreign language for people, who want to get a deeper understanding. So keeping the personal atmosphere of my room is as important as the sound. Though as a next step I am going to do some surgical and removable sound treating: Building with rockwool some sound panels for absorbing at some critical points, in addition my armchairs. Using book shelfs as disposer, ... ( I do not plan to do more than one video in two month, may be in one month. At the moment I need quite a time for my "compositions" and I don't want to live in a studio like place.)
For the times I plan to stay at my mother in Germany I will get an 100 € XLR -Dynamic Microfone (may be SE V7) and the small Rode AI-1, with its good headphone output. I think its the best, if no sound treating is possible. And it will be authentic in its own way, sitting in the kitchen which such a microphone.
Greetings to you and the world from a German, teaching, learning, living in Istanbul.
PS: As you see I am not an English teachers. So sorry for my not perfect, rusty school English.
I record live outdoors acoustic music videos for my UA-cam channel and getting the mic or mics out of the shot is really important to the look. If not out of the shot then definitely away from the face. One person’s noise is another’s ambience, and I like the sense of space that more distant micing gives IF I can’t hear cars, serious wind, construction, etc (these things are noise).
ua-cam.com/video/6pPhNRX4hFo/v-deo.htmlsi=Jj5GUcqadOZsJvVS
Yep I record acoustic instrument covers and it doesn't matter if the mic is in the shot or not for me lol. I got the SOUND. :-P
Outstanding explanation. On target, for sure.
Microphones are beautiful! Nothing wrong with having them on camera.
To me, its in the video frame because a mic sounds better close to you. Being a musician, I'm also use to being right on top of the mic.
There are a lot of studio TV productions (also news shows) with hidden mics that deliver awful audio. Try listen to some of those with headphones and without the video and you realize that not many TV studios are really treated and suitable for good sound recording.
Personally, I think it's the Edward R. Murrow Effect: you just seem more serious and professional while speaking into a good mic. More authoritative. (Not even sure if Murrow even had a mic in view, but that's the way I picture it.)
Second, it's a prop, just like everything else in the frame.
Third, not many have the personality to carry a talking head alone.
Forth, at least it's a WHOLE LOT BETTER than the speaker in the little box down in the corner. I HATE those.
I always think it makes me look professional lol, like a legit broadcaster. I find that there's definitely a cool factor associated with it 😆
I saw an Webby Award winning podcast producer using an RE20, and it was 8-12 inches from his mouth. It could've been out of view, if he'd chosen to frame it differently. My point is, that there was no problem making the RE20 sound great by adjusting the EQ appropriately. Also, I don't think the sound-to-noise ratio is going to be different, either way. I agree with Bandrew, it's mostly mimicry. Having a mic in-frame is fashionable, these days. In years to come, people will mock us for our old-fashioned mic-in-frame shenanigans.
Every doubling of distance is a 6 dB drop in signal. So from 2 inches to 8 inches (from the capsule, not the grill) is 12 dB more noise. Proximity also raises the bass frequencies with directional microphones but the RE-20 is mostly immune to this because of its special build.
@@gregmonforton4103 but there are diminishing returns. Once your noise score is about 40 DB below the actual signal. You won’t hear it. I can get a microphone almost just as close boomed, barely out of sight with the shotgun or other hyper cardioid Mic it’s less distracting and sounds just as good. The sound that people love is proximity effect, which I actually prefer not to have when listening to vocals.
@@NakeanWickliff I do some pretty aggressive low cuts to get rid of the mud (proximity) effect in live sound, and I’m grateful to do a lot of live sound mixing that isn’t close mic’d.
The mud kills the intelligibility, especially in a car.@@gregmonforton4103
as usual you're full right.
Needing to have a mic in ones mou*h/face - is sooo camp.
I still don't understand why podcasters and guests still wear headphones
I can understand it if the guest is joining externally, but if they are in the same room... yea.. Not sure. hahaha
We still love your videos, even with fat and ugly microphone in the frame instead of 416 just out of frame…
Joe Rogan has sold a LOT of SM7b’s. It’s almost comical seeing all the wannabe’s try to emulate Rogan.
dank
I think they are all wrong, sm7b it’s the best mic for most people
One reason... and ONE reason only!! Sound quality. Period.
If that means having the mic in the frame, then so be it. Has NOTHING to do with an image issue, or any other copy-cat self indulgence for that matter.
mic in the studio frame is bullsh*t - and guys hiding their face behind a mic is even more stupid. Sorry. It's not about the type of mic - it's a question of mindset - not so much a question of technical mastery