No, conservatives have meaning, that meaning is to be a nasty little shit to everyone, I mean, we've all seen they can turn on their own just as quick as they can turn on any person of color asking for equity
I work in theatre, it's literally because the conservatives don't see the value in art. During covid the tory party told people in theatre to just retrain, using a ballerina in their marketing. Ballet dancers train since they're teenagers or younger. Tory government has also just substantially cut the English National Opera budget and they're facing the threat of closure. They're justifying it by saying there is no future in opera, the eno had great programmes encouraging young people to come watch opera such as free tickets for under 21, singing is in English (I'm not really a fan of but I can see why it would make it feel more accessible), performing new modern opera (most opera houses stick to a classical repertoire). Conservative values don't care about art so artists don't like it.
This isn't even necessarily political, but it's something I've noticed where some people get stuck on worshipping old art to the point where they don't think anything new can be good because they hold it to the standard of being the old art... which it never will be enough for them to like it while being different and speaking to new people. You can see why it would relate to politics, but I usually make this point in context of the sort of cultural rot of rock music, where it's become like a surface level parody of itself. Rock music released since (in my opinion) the mid to late 2000s has been exclusively getting at old motifs without progressing to new ideas, outside of acts who are wildly experimental or not rock in the common sense of it (BCNR, Gilla Band, Deafheaven, Beach House). While rock is still "popular", it's mainly legacy acts who represent the mutated cultural ideal, and the rare few hard rock bands who make it through are derivative and don't last.
@@man4437 I'm actually talking about how conservatives don't respect people who work in the arts. 300 people may lose their jobs because they've decided opera is not worth funding anymore. A good opera company giving young people more opportunity to watch opera as well as affordable tickets. Conservatives don't believe artists deserve their jobs because they don't think art is important and its too easy.
@@vainpiers you are SO RIGHT. Conservatives bloviate that foreigners should be restricted because "western culture is the most sacred and valuable thing on earth", while cursing the "perverts and weirdos" that literally make up the arts and jumping at any opportunity to withdraw funding. The only real conservative goal anymore is to hurt people for sport and profit.
Conservatives don't understand anything that is considered valuable without money being involved. To conservatives (Ayn Rand types, etc.), every single aspect of human existence, every item in the universe MUST have a dollar value attached to it in order for it to have objective meaning. That's the world they are trying to build. "Art" done for the sake of art either has to be marketable or, like Soviet-era realism, must have a didactic angle; displaying some wondrous conservative value, like a picture of Daddy being greeted at the door by Mommy in her apron while the son plays with a toy gun in the background and the daughter holds a baby doll.
Sounds like they hate culture, big surprise, they seem to hate those less well off than they are and resentful if those who are better off...yet don't blame the rich and/or powerful who are mainly the reason the poor stay poor.
So basically Hollywood is woke because being woke is popular but I can’t say being woke is popular because I’m a conservative and I don’t want to admit that.
I think they admit that. I think that's the basic assumption underlying all of this, that the right is suppressed by the almighty left, which justifies killing people in the end.
"Woke" is just the latest term for "political correctness" and political correctness was just a method of pruning topics as to offend the least number of people. And that is why right wingers wring their hands over "Woke corporations" (for things like not calling homosexuality a sin, and not calling all black people criminals) when all they are doing is positioning themselves to cast the widest net and get the most customers possible. There is a HUGE market incentive to be "Woke" and they hate when capitalism disagrees with them.
@@jacobthelaserdragon4815 who would have known that offending people makes you an unlikeable prick? truly the real oppressed are the people who are bravely offensive
@@actualgoblin right? Conservatives be like 'back in my day we beat up gay people, shame we stopped cause now they are ok with being open about it'. Sociopaths, the lot of them
They're saying it's good to be a good person, but saying it is all Hollywood is doing, at least Conservatives are actually trying to be good. They're not just thinking about what feels good, or what new fad to support. You morons hear people you support say something and NEVER actually check to see if they're speaking the truth, whether it's condoning something or condemning someone. You idiots just believe them like sheep. At least the Right does research into the truth, and has solid proof why the left is so full of shit. You're just too cowardly to watch any of the channels that don't support you little safe space. Also they're calling people who've admit to being Marxists, groomers, and so many of you lefties leaders have literally said they are Marxists. It baffles how uneducated and ignorant you people are.
It sounds like they're not explaining why Hollywood is woke but why conservatives shouldn't feel like there's something wrong with them for not being woke
Odd considering there are literally documentaries AND WIKIPEDIA that PragerU could look into with as of why Hollywood is more progressive/left-adjacent… Hollywood was becoming progressive at first before 1930s until it was incentivised to not be restricted by governmental law because of poor morale regulations (abuse of power, scandals, murders, etc. Also money was a factor - which is ironic considering there still were wrongful things happening during the Hays Codes era but it was nipped in the bud by publicists, execs, etc. and the guise of it being “Christian-friendly”). I swear it feels like a lot of conservatives pick and choose what type of history they wanna remember, promote, and complain about and/or think everything that is happening presently has never happened before and/or not connecting context clues. A bunch of narcissistic behaviour imo because everything has to deal with how it effects them presently and not rationally coming to a conclusion of how we’ve got to where we are in the first place lol
There are tons of flaming reactionaries in Hollywood. It's exactly as flyingfish says. If pager u ever takes off, we're screwed. They have reduced the art of propaganda down to a hard science. It's disgusting how potent their bullshit is
Beyond political alignments, if it looks like an industry that revolves around storytelling trends “woke”, maybe it’s partly because good storytelling requires an ability to understand and empathise with perspectives outside your own.
They are literally paid to let go of their ego and convincingly step into the shoes of another. Not saying all or even most actors are empathetic saints, but even the ability to mimic someone who isn’t yourself as a job requirement seemingly would weed out most conservatives from the industry.
In my experience this empathizing experience left a Lot of franchises with a hollow and badly written storytelling. Let's be honest here people, that happens because some naive white liberal want to feel good about himself without doing something useful and Also it's a opportunity for ESG hedge funds to open to your Company, meaning: you can deliver bad products and services and still receives enormous amount of capital from those hedge funds.
@@rafaelmusacchio5257 _Fascinated_ by your apparent belief that empathetic storytelling is a new white liberal trend and not just… how storytelling is generally approached.
I would also add that being around lots of different people tend to make you more tolerant witch is what they call "woke", and in the movie industry you tend to be around a greater variety of people than average. This is also true if you compare people in big cities and people in rural areas.
Sam Seder regularly says that the entire conservative movement is just pure aggrievement, and this video demonstrates that. The real value of this video is to express that conservatives feel aggrieved that Hollywood overwhelmingly dislikes their ideas. Fellow aggrieved conservatives will feel validated watching it.
I think the implication he’s subtly trying to peddle throughout that conservatives are oppressed, which is why someone who wants to be loved / wants job security etc. wouldn’t choose to align themselves with conservatives. It’s a kind of underdog/victim mentality that allows them to feel like they’re in the right and being true to their values, while everyone else is just hollowly virtue signalling or going along with the crowd.
Yes, it's not that leftist ideas are popular, it's that a cabal is brainwashing everyone into believing in evil things like equality and a fair society when they should be fighting for more godly things like segregation, canceling trans and LGBT people and tax breaks for billionaires
But doesn't the question "why is Hollywood so woke?" kinda imply "why is it disproportionately woke relative to the population at large"? I read it as saying "most normal people aren't woke but Hollywood is weirdly woke and those actors just convince a bunch of sheeple to side with them". You're right that the contents of the video seem to imply a totally different narrative though, which contributes to it being so baffling. The cogdiss is real.
2:52 He literally says all the things that make the right unpopular and then does nothing to refute it. "People don't like us when we hate and try to kill them, what's up with that?" How can someone be so unaware?!
A while back I realized there's an inverse correlation between insight and projection- The less insight one has, the more one projects. The entire PU vid was a scathing self-burn. My jaw hit the floor at the first "answer". HOW CAN THEY NOT SEE IT???
simple: they are presenting the ideas as naive and incorrect. it doesn't need to be discussed; it's "obviously wrong." get your base to reject these points at their face, pretend these issues have already been solved, and you can inspire fierce loyalty.
that part is sarcasm. To prageru and its viewers, denying science is good because the entirety of science is an evil vaccine cult of some kind, and denying that America is systemically racist is good because systemic racism doesn't exist. those are facts in their model of reality. So being the subject of those accusations actually shows how virtuous conservatives are and how ignorant Hollywood liberals are. The part about minorities is weird but rule of threes, they had to put something in there.
well I can say I literally lost a job because of not being woke enough. asswipe boss actually expected me to like not be sleeping on the job. YOU try staying awake at them boring ass meetings when you're hung over AF.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter it is! In fact, this might very well be the most blatant example I´ve ever seen, since the guy keeps doing it again and again. How little editorializing went into this that there wasn´t a single person at the channel suggesting that maybe his argument might not be quite as airtight as he thinks?
Actor here. I don’t know who this fellow is, but I can assure him: Hollywood ain’t *that* liberal; plenty of people are not that nervous or worried about their job security, especially movie stars; and the performing arts has always attracted people who don’t quite fit in to a small-town conservative mindset, for one reason or another. But the people who hold the purse strings want to make things that make money, and things that they think people want to see. So their decisions tend to be rather conservative, as well as what they’ll allow on screen. Conservatives often don’t work because they’re crappy actors, and also no fun to be around. You have to have empathy to be a good performer, and if you’re difficult AND not very good, bye bye career.
Reminds me of the talking point that universities are woke and brain wash your kids into being woke. Like what's more believable: there's a systematic and highly effective brain washing program in place, or your kids just meet people from different backgrounds and make new friends that challenge their prejudices and the stereotypes their parents shoved into them as kids?
some believe that children (and people as a whole) are 100% subservient to an authority, somewhere, even if they wouldn't describe themselves that way. if it's not ME, and it's not GOD/AMERICA, then it's THEM who my child is listening to
Reminds me of the Prager video that says nazis are left wing. He just throws at you the conspiracy theory that all historians all around the world are wrongfully labeling nazis as right wing because "woke", and moves on. Worst thing? I've seen College professors parrot those same talking points, and even going "iT saYs sOcIaLisT!". It's embarrasing.
Christians who take their kids to church every week from birth and send them to private religious schools really like to project about everyone else grooming and indoctrinating them.
Conspiracies are the easiest way to glue their distorted vision of reality together. Just make up a new reality. It doesn't even need to be unfalsifiable. Just teach them to ignore anything that doesn't comport to the false reality
yeah, i’m voting blue because i want job security. the democrats might eventually actually make some legislation that ensures someone can’t fire me because i’m trans
Also, Democrats might pass national right-to-organize legislation that overrides state laws with the Orwellian name "right-to-work" (which mean the boss can fire you for trying to form a union, or for no reason at all). Or, Democrats might pass legislation to make your health insurance portable. Or....
No, you want it so they can't fire you at all, even if you deserve it, based solely on you being trans. You also want it so they HAVE to hire you over FAR better applicants, based solely on you being trans. Also that's a really selfish thing to want, considering all the other shit that the Left will bring, it's okay if America burns, as long as one moron knows they can barely do their job and never get fired.
@@otherperson It's always a choice between a faint warm hope for what the Democrats might do for you someday, and the cold certainty of what the GOPers have looked you in the eye and calmly promised they WILL do TO you, and to innocent people who don't deserve what they want to do to THEM.
I see this tendency all over the right to pathologize people who disagree with them. Jordan Peterson is probably the most famous for doing this, with his weird rants about protestors just being there to prey on women or get their friends to like them. I feel like they tend to think of themselves as the big mature adults in the room who have to figure out what to do with the impudent teenagers worried about their friends liking them and trying to figure out their independence. If they wait long enough, we'll eventually grow up to be just like them.
Love how the right loves to pin sexual assault on groups they don't like, but they go into full defense mode when people talk about the broader reasons sexual assault happens
It's projection. Jp used to be in socialist clubs likely bc his friends were. And his hatred of the left is likely bc he lost those friends for being a terrible human being
Maybe he only joined bc his crush was in the club in college and she went for a gigachad and so he continues his vendetta to this day while dog whistling for redpillers and incels
@@morbidsearch it's also really weird how they make claims of leftist men being sexual predators while also saying leftist women deserve it, it's almost like they project themselves on leftist men to lust after better looking leftist women and excuse their own rapes that are the statistical norm
Conservatism is inherently scared of change. Moving to LA and putting yourself out as an actor is a brave life move. Many actors start out as comedians. It's orders of magnitude easier to punch up in comedy, and conservatives' dedication to traditional power structures often leads to punching down/"putting people in their place", which comes across as angry and sullen rather than funny.
As someone who’s interested in going into the entertainment industry, and has talked to a fair portion of people involved in that for that reason, I think three of the reasons that there may be a correlation between working in entertainment and “leftist ideology” is that: entertainment is largely collaborative- it requires groups sized from a few to several hundred people, entertainment is a risky job- someone may be denied entry to their job well over a hundred times, entertainment is about having your voice heard- an idea that might be appealing to certain minorities that may be more likely to be left leaning. If I’m going into a system in which my economic state may end up in crisis at some points in my life, why wouldn’t I support social safety nets?
“Job security doesn’t exist in Hollywood” is such a wild take. Both bc the film industry is heavily unionized but also people like Mel Gibson and Ezra Miller can still get work. Then again, a lot of these PraugerU types are failed screen writers and actors so what do I know.
Also with the increasing prevalence of the MCU model, with actors contracted to play the same role across multiple movies within a franchise akin to a role on a serialized TV show, job security is even better if you can land one such role. Chris Evans hasn't had to work about what his next job is going to be since 2009.
Hollywood actors are woke because to become an actor you have to be well liked and charismatic, and it's hard to be universally beloved by everyone when you actively hate a subsection of that everyone. People don't usually like people who hate them
@@brycespencer6732 Being aware of how government and industry have taken advantage of people and played people against each other is taking advantage of people? What?
I don't believe being an asshole will solve anything but what I dislike about what the comments are failing to address is woke culture is all about giving the government power, just a left leaning side and frankly if you look into what the government does and has done it doesn't matter what side you vote, they're all corrupt assholes who does not care about your rights. I agree right leaning people are insufferable assholes but honestly so are left leaning people. Honestly both sides are blinded by their egos of what's right and wrong. Extremist of both sides shouldn't be taken seriously. Life isn't always easy and you can't always worry about who's feelings you're gonna hurt. There's too many people in the world to not piss someone off but also don't be a major dick that feels a need to be verbally combative with everyone. Not everyone has to hold OR CARE about your political values or your feelings. No one is obligated to anyone. Honestly no form of economical government has worked, socialism sucks, capitalism sucks, and communism sucks. Everyone anymore is lazy and refuses to work together to make something that works better than what we got. If you are not convenient to convince a point of either side you aren't worth it is how anyone is anymore. I say people are lazy because everyone stays in a comfort zone because they have the same ai algorithms feeding them the same biased views rather than actually educating themselves. Keep in mind I'm not right leaning in the slightest. I myself am actually left leaning but I care about everyone and I say this not to be an asshole but because I want to shine a new perspective for everyone. Not all right leaning people are bigotted assholes and not all left leaning people are woke sjw's. We genuinely need to learn to accept the aggravation and try to learn each other rather than deny
To add some points Our modern comforts have made us lazy The government uses politics to divide (Some things the united states government has done) Project Ajax Mk ultra is literally in pop culture What private companies did to the president of Guatemala The Pinkertons hired to kill Appalachian coal miners that were peacefully protesting their unfair wages I could go on
The arguments you showed them making aren't just nonsense, they're true: People who want to be liked by an audience are going to pander to them, and going to display themselves as supportive to the biggest demographic as possible. What conservatives fail to understand is that it isn't just coincidence that larger society views leftist ideas as more favorable right now: its because conservative ideas, and people, are becoming more visibly foolish and unlikeable compared to the past, and people aren't tolerating the awful conservative views and actions which have been abusing our society since forever.
What is particularly confusing to me is that, PragerU makes these videos intentionally pandering to their audience who they know wants to hear the same shit they believe repeated back to them... So why is it so hard for them to understand that other media conglomerates would also do that?
This is a pretty common thing among conservatives, they always say people are progressive for some underlying ulterior motive, never that someone genuinely believes in what they believe. Says more about the conservative mind-set than anything else
Another thing to keep in mind is the location of Hollywood, itself: Southern California. It's an extremely dense and diverse population. You meet a lot of people from a lot of different cultures and backgrounds on a regular basis. The entertainment industry, itself, attracts people from all over the world. I've lived in several cities around this country, including LA, and it really is a global hub. The Speech Prof recently did a great Short about how colleges aren't actually indoctrinating students to be liberal, they're just....meeting people. Some of these kids are leaving their conservative bubbles and finding out for the first time that, hey, that gay guy in English Lit 101 is actually really sweet, and that Hispanic girl down the hall in their dorm has a lot of common interests, and that hey, maybe they're not all that bad after all. Having to find common ground and learning to coexist with a diverse group of people is what builds compassion and tolerance for those who are different than you are. It's really as simple as that. It's really hard to ignore social issues when they're on your front doorstep every day.
I thought "Why should we care what hollywood actors think ?" In the end, he answered "Because it's just plain UN-AMERICAN that an entire industry DISCRIMINATES against those who hold a different point of view !" He does not explain "Why they favor progressive ideas ? How should we make conservative ideas more appealing ?" He explains "Why should we HATE those woke tyrants !? How should we RAGE against virtue signaling hypocrites !?"
because not being "woke" and openly conservative isn't widely profitable? idk. PU saying "actors vote blue because they want JOB SECURITY" got me cause like, A as if that's a crime to want that, B implying voting repub/conserv doesn't get you that
The truth it is meaningless to follow an ideaology that's rooted in being attached to arbitrary traditions and being angry at arbitrary groups of people that aren't harming anyone.
For those curious,I watched the vid - reason #1 was the “guilt” of actors successful roles assuaging their guilt by posturing as if they are saviors of the less fortunate while sacrificing not very much. And this checks out to me somewhat, modern liberal woke beliefs are more posture. But it still fails to account for differences - guilt can also be assuaged by deigning all less fortunate less deserving.
Aka “conservatives don’t practice what they preach and haven’t read their favourite book very well” because if he believed the crap he said he wouldn’t associate guilt with conservatism he’d say the right cares but they don’t. And they know they don’t.
And even still, I would say that while some celebs may be be outspoken about activism performatively, at least as many are because they recognize that they hold a position wherein financially and socially they're at an advantage and they don't want to squander that position by being idle. Crazy idea, but maybe some of these celebrities and artists were leftist BEFORE going into the film industry. Ludicrous, I know. /s Ultimately I think point one is definitely their most valid (or, you know, complete) argument, but it still has too many holes in it to hold all that much water.
@@justine.exehasstopped5114 Agreed. Their first point is by far their best, but they dont fully expand it and positioning the other points as if they all mold together is just ridiculous and shows they were just going scattershot with it
I'm still waiting for those conservative blockbusters but their base will never admit the reason they aren't coming isn't they don't have the money or attention,it's because they don't believe in investing in the arts.
5. They're meanie meanie poopie-poos. 4. They're meanie meanie poopie-poos. 3. They're meanie meanie poopie-poos. etc. The kinds of new and original points everyone has come to expect from conservatism over the last 50 to 300 years.
“Lack of meaning?” Fuck. Spoken like a man who doesn’t think other people have internal lives. People commit suicide for a variety of reasons, they aren’t hollow shells you can project onto.
@@danielludwig647 It’s actually kind of sad to me because he definitely knows that other people have internal lives, he just truly struggles to understand that other people find meaning in lives that are extremely different from his own. I think he actually might have a touch of the ‘tism (like myself). Church has provided him the rigid structure he’s most comfortable in, so he assumes that it would help everyone in the same way.
I love when he loses his own thread and says it's a coincidence. He says it ironically. Implying it's very much not a coincidence but also doesn't say why it's not a coincidence. Just wants you to believe it's not.
The point isn't to explain why they are all 'so woke' it's to plant the idea that Hollywood is 'woke'. By arguing the point you are inherently accepting two premises 1) that Hollywood IS 'woke' 2)That it is important if Hollywood is woke. We can't keep letting them define the terms of the discussions, we need to just start refusing to accept their distracting premises and discuss real issues.
I love how their 4th point is that low job security and professional desperation makes bad things happen (or well, what they think are bad things). And like, that's a central tenant of leftism that they constantly argue against. You want to fix the problem of people being terrified of losing their jobs over their beliefs and their employers whims? Great, support unions.
1) Artists tend to be open-minded, creative, and novelty-seeking, which lends itself to being left-leaning. 2) In general, art requires a capacity for empathy and imagination. Empathetic and imaginative people will tend to care about others, and that tends to lend itself to being left-leaning. 2) Hollywood is a major metropolitan area, and most big cities are left-leaning. 3) The Film Industry exposes a person to many different people, places, and experiences, which will tend to lend itself to an opening of the mind and heart. 5) People will tend to share or mirror the values of those around them, for good or ill, for a number of reasons. 6) The Arts have historically attracted Outsiders, Outsiders often (but not always!) have a deeper appreciation for justice and fairness because they know what it's like to be ostracized and marginalized. There, I solved it. Of course, Hollywood's much more complicated than the conservatives will ever admit, because Hollywood's culture is actually *neoliberal* overall.
You should talk about how election denialism correlates to your last point where it essentially say that there's this phenomenon I call "ideological poisoning," where people cannot comprehend other points of political view. I feel like the right has had this happen to them at record paces.
“Christian Toto” hit single is “Africa, but we’re systematically destroying the local cultures to enforce our own” and it goes a bit like this “I PRAY FOR THE MISSIONARIES DOWN IN AFRICA”.
He actually very carefully gave the reason without saying it out loud. Hollywood is "woke" because it financially and personally beneficial to reflect the values of the majority of society.
Just returning to this video as the question is still on my mind and yet the answer remains so elusive... It's the number one thing on everyone's minds. I think about it 24/7, 24 hours in a row
Empathy is a big part of acting, the ability to put oneself into someone else's position. I'd say some are overly good at it, being a little too sensitive, but honestly, I'd rather have someone be a little too sensitive than massively insensitive.
When the majority of artists, scientists, and educators are lining up against you, the reasonable thing to do is reevaluate your position, but the conservative thing to do is entrench.
speaking completely egoistically, this channel was such a great idea now i can have more nuggets of wisdom from joel more often all the time! thanks, joel!
loving the bite sized videos on this new channel Joel, you’re doing a great job taking the appeal of your main content and translating it into these shorter “tweet replacement” videos, keep it up ❤
also am i the only one who felt like when he says “being woke means job security”, hes implying a certain narrative that pop culture figures are made to conform to … it felt just a tad conspiracy theory-ish to me
I think they don't answer the question because that video isn't about anything. its just there to imply a vague conspiracy. It has no meaning or message beyond that.
To whatever extent Hollywood votes to the left beyond just urbanism, it's probably related to the type of job that actors have: if you're an engineer or a farmer, you should follow in the footsteps of your predecessors or your building will collapse and your crops will fail. If you're an artist or an actor, you *have* to innovate and add your own spin to have any hope of real success.
The answer is actually quite simple. Actors, along with artists, want to do their work unimpeded, and it just so happens that left leaning people are more tolerant of artworks that are generally more thought provoking or challenging (Say what you will about "cancel culture, I don't care), whereas Conservatives typically go out of their way to ban or place draconian rules in media. If Conservatives had it their way, all our media would just be Christian or capitalist propaganda, as we have seen in the present and in the past.
It's the same reason all the arts are so woke. Conservatives just aren't creative. Which makes sense since their entire political view is "I don't like change." Ben Shapiro's books and movies are perfect example.
I saw someone mention that it's probably about how conservatives don't value art, but I wanna piggyback on that and mention that conservatives just don't like the concept of *entertainment* too much. They like having the content to consume, sure. But entertainment as an industry is something seen as meaningless and unproductive among those groups. They believe there's no value in the arts or entertainment as they don't see them as real, tangible things to contribute to the economy. They think that the entire industry would be best set to rot and the actors and writers sent to factories or fields. I think its the same reason they generally hate humanities courses or social science courses in colleges - they don't fit the conservative view of "productivity."
He’s inadvertently implying that only leftists are loved and admired, or have meaning in their lives - we love to see it
A place of love? You'd all be against gay marriage again if it won you elections.
Right. What about other people who aren’t leftist/liberal? Not just the other side but other groups? Do they not matter?
@@silashurd3597 you are confusing “leftist” with “liberal”. You might consider looking into the distinction.
@@addammadd same side.
@@silashurd3597 LOL. You need to educate yourself. We hate liberals.
I can’t help but feel like prager u is just admitting that being a conservative makes you unlikable and deprives your life of meaning
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No, conservatives have meaning, that meaning is to be a nasty little shit to everyone, I mean, we've all seen they can turn on their own just as quick as they can turn on any person of color asking for equity
Sums up my thoughts exactly.
Projection is a helluva drug
prager u based for once?
I work in theatre, it's literally because the conservatives don't see the value in art. During covid the tory party told people in theatre to just retrain, using a ballerina in their marketing. Ballet dancers train since they're teenagers or younger.
Tory government has also just substantially cut the English National Opera budget and they're facing the threat of closure. They're justifying it by saying there is no future in opera, the eno had great programmes encouraging young people to come watch opera such as free tickets for under 21, singing is in English (I'm not really a fan of but I can see why it would make it feel more accessible), performing new modern opera (most opera houses stick to a classical repertoire).
Conservative values don't care about art so artists don't like it.
This isn't even necessarily political, but it's something I've noticed where some people get stuck on worshipping old art to the point where they don't think anything new can be good because they hold it to the standard of being the old art... which it never will be enough for them to like it while being different and speaking to new people.
You can see why it would relate to politics, but I usually make this point in context of the sort of cultural rot of rock music, where it's become like a surface level parody of itself. Rock music released since (in my opinion) the mid to late 2000s has been exclusively getting at old motifs without progressing to new ideas, outside of acts who are wildly experimental or not rock in the common sense of it (BCNR, Gilla Band, Deafheaven, Beach House).
While rock is still "popular", it's mainly legacy acts who represent the mutated cultural ideal, and the rare few hard rock bands who make it through are derivative and don't last.
@@man4437 I'm actually talking about how conservatives don't respect people who work in the arts. 300 people may lose their jobs because they've decided opera is not worth funding anymore. A good opera company giving young people more opportunity to watch opera as well as affordable tickets.
Conservatives don't believe artists deserve their jobs because they don't think art is important and its too easy.
@@vainpiers you are SO RIGHT. Conservatives bloviate that foreigners should be restricted because "western culture is the most sacred and valuable thing on earth", while cursing the "perverts and weirdos" that literally make up the arts and jumping at any opportunity to withdraw funding.
The only real conservative goal anymore is to hurt people for sport and profit.
Conservatives don't understand anything that is considered valuable without money being involved. To conservatives (Ayn Rand types, etc.), every single aspect of human existence, every item in the universe MUST have a dollar value attached to it in order for it to have objective meaning. That's the world they are trying to build. "Art" done for the sake of art either has to be marketable or, like Soviet-era realism, must have a didactic angle; displaying some wondrous conservative value, like a picture of Daddy being greeted at the door by Mommy in her apron while the son plays with a toy gun in the background and the daughter holds a baby doll.
Sounds like they hate culture, big surprise, they seem to hate those less well off than they are and resentful if those who are better off...yet don't blame the rich and/or powerful who are mainly the reason the poor stay poor.
So basically Hollywood is woke because being woke is popular but I can’t say being woke is popular because I’m a conservative and I don’t want to admit that.
I think they admit that. I think that's the basic assumption underlying all of this, that the right is suppressed by the almighty left, which justifies killing people in the end.
"Woke" is just the latest term for "political correctness" and political correctness was just a method of pruning topics as to offend the least number of people. And that is why right wingers wring their hands over "Woke corporations" (for things like not calling homosexuality a sin, and not calling all black people criminals) when all they are doing is positioning themselves to cast the widest net and get the most customers possible. There is a HUGE market incentive to be "Woke" and they hate when capitalism disagrees with them.
@@jacobthelaserdragon4815 wait, so you’re saying when we try not to offend people and treat them nicely, they like that? Weird.
@@jacobthelaserdragon4815 who would have known that offending people makes you an unlikeable prick? truly the real oppressed are the people who are bravely offensive
Raises the question of why it's popular to be "woke" and why "wokeness" imbues life with meaning.
‘people move towards the left to be more likable and give their lives purpose’ sounds cool to me idk
For real, that is the biggest self own I've seen in quite some time, and they don't even realize it is one. Sad, really.
mrw homophobes say "more young people are identifying as LGBT because their peers are cool with that now" as if that's somehow bad or wrong
@@actualgoblin right? Conservatives be like 'back in my day we beat up gay people, shame we stopped cause now they are ok with being open about it'. Sociopaths, the lot of them
Why do you want to be liked?
Who are these people whose approval you seek?
Why does your life lack purpose beyind virtue signalling?
@@darrengordon-hill do you seriously not know what friendship is?
Entertainment: "Hey everybody, remember it's a good thing to be a good person."
Conservatives: "This is literally Marxist grooming!"
Marx took great care of his hair
They're saying it's good to be a good person, but saying it is all Hollywood is doing, at least Conservatives are actually trying to be good. They're not just thinking about what feels good, or what new fad to support. You morons hear people you support say something and NEVER actually check to see if they're speaking the truth, whether it's condoning something or condemning someone. You idiots just believe them like sheep. At least the Right does research into the truth, and has solid proof why the left is so full of shit. You're just too cowardly to watch any of the channels that don't support you little safe space. Also they're calling people who've admit to being Marxists, groomers, and so many of you lefties leaders have literally said they are Marxists. It baffles how uneducated and ignorant you people are.
@@morbidsearch "Our" hairbrush.
@@philgodin6493 funny 😂 (but Marx says personal property like hairbrushes is fine 👍)
@@lowlygrinder2977 When you've been taking too many Alex Jones pills and are unfortunately too close to a keyboard. Put the case away, grandpa.
When will we get a Big Joel/Little Joel collab? I think you two would really hit it off with each other
Big Joel, little Joel, welcome to our youtube
Needs Little Joel to be sat on Big Joel's knee à la Frank Sidebottom and Little Frank.
@lars wtf why are you here
@@LeftPhilip haha! I understood that reference...
What if they cancel each other out? Just Joel.
It sounds like they're not explaining why Hollywood is woke but why conservatives shouldn't feel like there's something wrong with them for not being woke
Exactly this
Odd considering there are literally documentaries AND WIKIPEDIA that PragerU could look into with as of why Hollywood is more progressive/left-adjacent… Hollywood was becoming progressive at first before 1930s until it was incentivised to not be restricted by governmental law because of poor morale regulations (abuse of power, scandals, murders, etc. Also money was a factor - which is ironic considering there still were wrongful things happening during the Hays Codes era but it was nipped in the bud by publicists, execs, etc. and the guise of it being “Christian-friendly”). I swear it feels like a lot of conservatives pick and choose what type of history they wanna remember, promote, and complain about and/or think everything that is happening presently has never happened before and/or not connecting context clues. A bunch of narcissistic behaviour imo because everything has to deal with how it effects them presently and not rationally coming to a conclusion of how we’ve got to where we are in the first place lol
Also… there are WORKING conservatives in the industry. Even to this day! Lol
There are tons of flaming reactionaries in Hollywood. It's exactly as flyingfish says. If pager u ever takes off, we're screwed. They have reduced the art of propaganda down to a hard science. It's disgusting how potent their bullshit is
It's a way to twist the narrative, and the vagueness is an important part of this brainwashing propaganda.
"Why do so many people go on about social justice and being on the left?"
"Oh, because it's popular."
"Why is is popular?"
"....."
"George Soros"
@@morbidsearch evry tiem
Fair
"Because it appeals to people."
"Isn't that a good thing?"
"..."
@@LoudWaffle They who have the youth have the future. Which means that the right are already past.
Beyond political alignments, if it looks like an industry that revolves around storytelling trends “woke”, maybe it’s partly because good storytelling requires an ability to understand and empathise with perspectives outside your own.
They are literally paid to let go of their ego and convincingly step into the shoes of another. Not saying all or even most actors are empathetic saints, but even the ability to mimic someone who isn’t yourself as a job requirement seemingly would weed out most conservatives from the industry.
Not only that: actors make a living of empathizing with others, potentially vastly different from themselves.
In my experience this empathizing experience left a Lot of franchises with a hollow and badly written storytelling. Let's be honest here people, that happens because some naive white liberal want to feel good about himself without doing something useful and Also it's a opportunity for ESG hedge funds to open to your Company, meaning: you can deliver bad products and services and still receives enormous amount of capital from those hedge funds.
@@rafaelmusacchio5257 _Fascinated_ by your apparent belief that empathetic storytelling is a new white liberal trend and not just… how storytelling is generally approached.
I would also add that being around lots of different people tend to make you more tolerant witch is what they call "woke", and in the movie industry you tend to be around a greater variety of people than average.
This is also true if you compare people in big cities and people in rural areas.
Sam Seder regularly says that the entire conservative movement is just pure aggrievement, and this video demonstrates that. The real value of this video is to express that conservatives feel aggrieved that Hollywood overwhelmingly dislikes their ideas. Fellow aggrieved conservatives will feel validated watching it.
Obligatory reminder that Ben Shabibo is a failed scriptwriter
@@EricChoiniere not the pope of the jews!
@@EricChoiniere dramedy writer.
@@EricChoiniere and crowder a theater kid
so it's just cope?
cope all the way down?
I think the implication he’s subtly trying to peddle throughout that conservatives are oppressed, which is why someone who wants to be loved / wants job security etc. wouldn’t choose to align themselves with conservatives. It’s a kind of underdog/victim mentality that allows them to feel like they’re in the right and being true to their values, while everyone else is just hollowly virtue signalling or going along with the crowd.
Yes, it's not that leftist ideas are popular, it's that a cabal is brainwashing everyone into believing in evil things like equality and a fair society when they should be fighting for more godly things like segregation, canceling trans and LGBT people and tax breaks for billionaires
Quite insightful.
But doesn't the question "why is Hollywood so woke?" kinda imply "why is it disproportionately woke relative to the population at large"? I read it as saying "most normal people aren't woke but Hollywood is weirdly woke and those actors just convince a bunch of sheeple to side with them".
You're right that the contents of the video seem to imply a totally different narrative though, which contributes to it being so baffling. The cogdiss is real.
while christians hold almost all political power and corporate wealth in the US
@@d_andrews "The enemy is both strong and weak." Or in this case, "The enemy is both mainstream and fringe."
2:52 He literally says all the things that make the right unpopular and then does nothing to refute it. "People don't like us when we hate and try to kill them, what's up with that?" How can someone be so unaware?!
A while back I realized there's an inverse correlation between insight and projection- The less insight one has, the more one projects.
The entire PU vid was a scathing self-burn. My jaw hit the floor at the first "answer".
HOW CAN THEY NOT SEE IT???
simple: they are presenting the ideas as naive and incorrect. it doesn't need to be discussed; it's "obviously wrong."
get your base to reject these points at their face, pretend these issues have already been solved, and you can inspire fierce loyalty.
that part is sarcasm. To prageru and its viewers, denying science is good because the entirety of science is an evil vaccine cult of some kind, and denying that America is systemically racist is good because systemic racism doesn't exist. those are facts in their model of reality. So being the subject of those accusations actually shows how virtuous conservatives are and how ignorant Hollywood liberals are. The part about minorities is weird but rule of threes, they had to put something in there.
"why IS Hollywood so woke" is definitely the main question on my mind at any given moment. It's a very pressing issue
well I can say I literally lost a job because of not being woke enough. asswipe boss actually expected me to like not be sleeping on the job. YOU try staying awake at them boring ass meetings when you're hung over AF.
@@brokenrecord3095
You got me in the first half lmao
@@brokenrecord3095 amen but drinking is for mere mortals coke on the other hand
It assumes that Hollywood is woke as a core premise and then points at its core premise as evidence as proof of itself.
Which begs the question, is this an example of begging the question?
which is the same thing they do to say that god is real
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter it is! In fact, this might very well be the most blatant example I´ve ever seen, since the guy keeps doing it again and again. How little editorializing went into this that there wasn´t a single person at the channel suggesting that maybe his argument might not be quite as airtight as he thinks?
Actor here. I don’t know who this fellow is, but I can assure him: Hollywood ain’t *that* liberal; plenty of people are not that nervous or worried about their job security, especially movie stars; and the performing arts has always attracted people who don’t quite fit in to a small-town conservative mindset, for one reason or another.
But the people who hold the purse strings want to make things that make money, and things that they think people want to see. So their decisions tend to be rather conservative, as well as what they’ll allow on screen.
Conservatives often don’t work because they’re crappy actors, and also no fun to be around. You have to have empathy to be a good performer, and if you’re difficult AND not very good, bye bye career.
Thanks for your hard work
Empathy makes for better acting, but the bourgeoisie producers attempt limit revolutionary thought by framing things within a neoliberal lens.
nice
Interesting
Im in LA and yup yup yup!!😂😂😂
Reminds me of the talking point that universities are woke and brain wash your kids into being woke. Like what's more believable: there's a systematic and highly effective brain washing program in place, or your kids just meet people from different backgrounds and make new friends that challenge their prejudices and the stereotypes their parents shoved into them as kids?
some believe that children (and people as a whole) are 100% subservient to an authority, somewhere, even if they wouldn't describe themselves that way.
if it's not ME, and it's not GOD/AMERICA, then it's THEM who my child is listening to
I mean who knows sounds like a fifty fifty to me. /Jk
Reminds me of the Prager video that says nazis are left wing. He just throws at you the conspiracy theory that all historians all around the world are wrongfully labeling nazis as right wing because "woke", and moves on.
Worst thing? I've seen College professors parrot those same talking points, and even going "iT saYs sOcIaLisT!". It's embarrasing.
Christians who take their kids to church every week from birth and send them to private religious schools really like to project about everyone else grooming and indoctrinating them.
Conspiracies are the easiest way to glue their distorted vision of reality together. Just make up a new reality. It doesn't even need to be unfalsifiable. Just teach them to ignore anything that doesn't comport to the false reality
yeah, i’m voting blue because i want job security. the democrats might eventually actually make some legislation that ensures someone can’t fire me because i’m trans
Also, Democrats might pass national right-to-organize legislation that overrides state laws with the Orwellian name "right-to-work" (which mean the boss can fire you for trying to form a union, or for no reason at all).
Or, Democrats might pass legislation to make your health insurance portable.
Or....
No, you want it so they can't fire you at all, even if you deserve it, based solely on you being trans. You also want it so they HAVE to hire you over FAR better applicants, based solely on you being trans. Also that's a really selfish thing to want, considering all the other shit that the Left will bring, it's okay if America burns, as long as one moron knows they can barely do their job and never get fired.
@@lowlygrinder2977 Projection. It's a Hell of a drug.
"Might"
@@otherperson It's always a choice between a faint warm hope for what the Democrats might do for you someday, and the cold certainty of what the GOPers have looked you in the eye and calmly promised they WILL do TO you, and to innocent people who don't deserve what they want to do to THEM.
Could it be that everyone hates me for my awful beliefs and actions?
No, it's the actors who are wrong
Hollywood is woke because it's cool and meaningful 😂
Just an amazing self-own. How could they publish this?
A profound lack of self-perception.
@@arcadiaberger9204 Or you hear what makes you feel good...
@@darrengordon-hill Believe me, conservatives owning themselves and outing their myopic worldviews doesn't feel good.
PragerU is just a self own or a joke. It’s like the Onion.
It's an operation run by a 90 year old asshole, for the enjoyment of other 90 year old assholes.
I see this tendency all over the right to pathologize people who disagree with them. Jordan Peterson is probably the most famous for doing this, with his weird rants about protestors just being there to prey on women or get their friends to like them. I feel like they tend to think of themselves as the big mature adults in the room who have to figure out what to do with the impudent teenagers worried about their friends liking them and trying to figure out their independence. If they wait long enough, we'll eventually grow up to be just like them.
Very well thought argument, my friend! Never thought of that from this specific perspective. Thanks for the frame!
Love how the right loves to pin sexual assault on groups they don't like, but they go into full defense mode when people talk about the broader reasons sexual assault happens
It's projection. Jp used to be in socialist clubs likely bc his friends were. And his hatred of the left is likely bc he lost those friends for being a terrible human being
Maybe he only joined bc his crush was in the club in college and she went for a gigachad and so he continues his vendetta to this day while dog whistling for redpillers and incels
@@morbidsearch it's also really weird how they make claims of leftist men being sexual predators while also saying leftist women deserve it, it's almost like they project themselves on leftist men to lust after better looking leftist women and excuse their own rapes that are the statistical norm
Conservatism is inherently scared of change. Moving to LA and putting yourself out as an actor is a brave life move.
Many actors start out as comedians. It's orders of magnitude easier to punch up in comedy, and conservatives' dedication to traditional power structures often leads to punching down/"putting people in their place", which comes across as angry and sullen rather than funny.
As someone who’s interested in going into the entertainment industry, and has talked to a fair portion of people involved in that for that reason, I think three of the reasons that there may be a correlation between working in entertainment and “leftist ideology” is that: entertainment is largely collaborative- it requires groups sized from a few to several hundred people, entertainment is a risky job- someone may be denied entry to their job well over a hundred times, entertainment is about having your voice heard- an idea that might be appealing to certain minorities that may be more likely to be left leaning.
If I’m going into a system in which my economic state may end up in crisis at some points in my life, why wouldn’t I support social safety nets?
Art requires someone to be thinking creatively and also think freely.
Interesting, interesting.
Ain't that 'odd' as in, obvious?
This guy could actually bless the rains down in Africa
Nice profile picture
💙
“Job security doesn’t exist in Hollywood” is such a wild take. Both bc the film industry is heavily unionized but also people like Mel Gibson and Ezra Miller can still get work. Then again, a lot of these PraugerU types are failed screen writers and actors so what do I know.
Also with the increasing prevalence of the MCU model, with actors contracted to play the same role across multiple movies within a franchise akin to a role on a serialized TV show, job security is even better if you can land one such role. Chris Evans hasn't had to work about what his next job is going to be since 2009.
I wonder if Ezra Miller will ever be jailed for terrorizing Hawaii.
Hollywood actors are woke because to become an actor you have to be well liked and charismatic, and it's hard to be universally beloved by everyone when you actively hate a subsection of that everyone. People don't usually like people who hate them
Liberals hate all conservatives. Try again.
Here are the main reasons Hollywood is so woke:
Hollywood is woke
Very logic, much fact.
Woke = "Being a decent human being towards other human beings."
That's what it means to me.
Seems to be a way of taking advantage of people.
@@brycespencer6732 Being aware of how government and industry have taken advantage of people and played people against each other is taking advantage of people? What?
I don't believe being an asshole will solve anything but what I dislike about what the comments are failing to address is woke culture is all about giving the government power, just a left leaning side and frankly if you look into what the government does and has done it doesn't matter what side you vote, they're all corrupt assholes who does not care about your rights. I agree right leaning people are insufferable assholes but honestly so are left leaning people. Honestly both sides are blinded by their egos of what's right and wrong. Extremist of both sides shouldn't be taken seriously. Life isn't always easy and you can't always worry about who's feelings you're gonna hurt. There's too many people in the world to not piss someone off but also don't be a major dick that feels a need to be verbally combative with everyone. Not everyone has to hold OR CARE about your political values or your feelings. No one is obligated to anyone.
Honestly no form of economical government has worked, socialism sucks, capitalism sucks, and communism sucks. Everyone anymore is lazy and refuses to work together to make something that works better than what we got. If you are not convenient to convince a point of either side you aren't worth it is how anyone is anymore.
I say people are lazy because everyone stays in a comfort zone because they have the same ai algorithms feeding them the same biased views rather than actually educating themselves. Keep in mind I'm not right leaning in the slightest. I myself am actually left leaning but I care about everyone and I say this not to be an asshole but because I want to shine a new perspective for everyone. Not all right leaning people are bigotted assholes and not all left leaning people are woke sjw's. We genuinely need to learn to accept the aggravation and try to learn each other rather than deny
To add some points
Our modern comforts have made us lazy
The government uses politics to divide
(Some things the united states government has done)
Project Ajax
Mk ultra is literally in pop culture
What private companies did to the president of Guatemala
The Pinkertons hired to kill Appalachian coal miners that were peacefully protesting their unfair wages
I could go on
More like being Communist
The arguments you showed them making aren't just nonsense, they're true:
People who want to be liked by an audience are going to pander to them, and going to display themselves as supportive to the biggest demographic as possible. What conservatives fail to understand is that it isn't just coincidence that larger society views leftist ideas as more favorable right now: its because conservative ideas, and people, are becoming more visibly foolish and unlikeable compared to the past, and people aren't tolerating the awful conservative views and actions which have been abusing our society since forever.
What is particularly confusing to me is that, PragerU makes these videos intentionally pandering to their audience who they know wants to hear the same shit they believe repeated back to them... So why is it so hard for them to understand that other media conglomerates would also do that?
Thank you Elon for little Joel
"Job security doesn't exist in Hollywood!"
Ok, support unions then!
little joel has now been around long enough that youtube is recommending i rewatch classic uploads
This is a pretty common thing among conservatives, they always say people are progressive for some underlying ulterior motive, never that someone genuinely believes in what they believe. Says more about the conservative mind-set than anything else
Another thing to keep in mind is the location of Hollywood, itself: Southern California. It's an extremely dense and diverse population. You meet a lot of people from a lot of different cultures and backgrounds on a regular basis. The entertainment industry, itself, attracts people from all over the world. I've lived in several cities around this country, including LA, and it really is a global hub. The Speech Prof recently did a great Short about how colleges aren't actually indoctrinating students to be liberal, they're just....meeting people. Some of these kids are leaving their conservative bubbles and finding out for the first time that, hey, that gay guy in English Lit 101 is actually really sweet, and that Hispanic girl down the hall in their dorm has a lot of common interests, and that hey, maybe they're not all that bad after all. Having to find common ground and learning to coexist with a diverse group of people is what builds compassion and tolerance for those who are different than you are. It's really as simple as that. It's really hard to ignore social issues when they're on your front doorstep every day.
I thought "Why should we care what hollywood actors think ?" In the end, he answered "Because it's just plain UN-AMERICAN that an entire industry DISCRIMINATES against those who hold a different point of view !"
He does not explain "Why they favor progressive ideas ? How should we make conservative ideas more appealing ?" He explains "Why should we HATE those woke tyrants !? How should we RAGE against virtue signaling hypocrites !?"
because not being "woke" and openly conservative isn't widely profitable? idk. PU saying "actors vote blue because they want JOB SECURITY" got me cause like, A as if that's a crime to want that, B implying voting repub/conserv doesn't get you that
little joel and big joel collab where little joel is perched on big joel’s shoulder like a devil in a 2000s disney channel sitcom please
they love their victim mentality so much
All of political sides see themselves as the victim in some way. This isn't unique to the right. That is politics.
The truth it is meaningless to follow an ideaology that's rooted in being attached to arbitrary traditions and being angry at arbitrary groups of people that aren't harming anyone.
For those curious,I watched the vid - reason #1 was the “guilt” of actors successful roles assuaging their guilt by posturing as if they are saviors of the less fortunate while sacrificing not very much. And this checks out to me somewhat, modern liberal woke beliefs are more posture. But it still fails to account for differences - guilt can also be assuaged by deigning all less fortunate less deserving.
Aka “conservatives don’t practice what they preach and haven’t read their favourite book very well” because if he believed the crap he said he wouldn’t associate guilt with conservatism he’d say the right cares but they don’t. And they know they don’t.
And even still, I would say that while some celebs may be be outspoken about activism performatively, at least as many are because they recognize that they hold a position wherein financially and socially they're at an advantage and they don't want to squander that position by being idle.
Crazy idea, but maybe some of these celebrities and artists were leftist BEFORE going into the film industry. Ludicrous, I know. /s
Ultimately I think point one is definitely their most valid (or, you know, complete) argument, but it still has too many holes in it to hold all that much water.
@@justine.exehasstopped5114 Agreed. Their first point is by far their best, but they dont fully expand it and positioning the other points as if they all mold together is just ridiculous and shows they were just going scattershot with it
absolutely insane how he calls his entire thesis a coincidence on his second point and then keeps going
I'm still waiting for those conservative blockbusters but their base will never admit the reason they aren't coming isn't they don't have the money or attention,it's because they don't believe in investing in the arts.
Making Pureflix films is much cheaper and thus much more lucrative, financially.
Maverick.
5. They're meanie meanie poopie-poos.
4. They're meanie meanie poopie-poos.
3. They're meanie meanie poopie-poos.
etc.
The kinds of new and original points everyone has come to expect from conservatism over the last 50 to 300 years.
i feel like twtr going haywire was a blessing in disguise cuz i really like this bite-sized joel
Gotta love this new channel, little Joel for the win
My dad always blames “lack of meaning” when celebrities kill themselves. It’s really uncomfortable
“Lack of meaning?” Fuck. Spoken like a man who doesn’t think other people have internal lives. People commit suicide for a variety of reasons, they aren’t hollow shells you can project onto.
@@danielludwig647 It’s actually kind of sad to me because he definitely knows that other people have internal lives, he just truly struggles to understand that other people find meaning in lives that are extremely different from his own. I think he actually might have a touch of the ‘tism (like myself). Church has provided him the rigid structure he’s most comfortable in, so he assumes that it would help everyone in the same way.
Christian Toto, literally blessing the rains down in Africa 😢
I love when he loses his own thread and says it's a coincidence. He says it ironically. Implying it's very much not a coincidence but also doesn't say why it's not a coincidence. Just wants you to believe it's not.
Its almost like roleplaying broadens your horizons and makes your views more tolerant
The point isn't to explain why they are all 'so woke' it's to plant the idea that Hollywood is 'woke'. By arguing the point you are inherently accepting two premises 1) that Hollywood IS 'woke' 2)That it is important if Hollywood is woke. We can't keep letting them define the terms of the discussions, we need to just start refusing to accept their distracting premises and discuss real issues.
This is way better than Twitter. Joel never stop doing this
I love these. It's like microdosing Big Joel
little joel doing a big joel voice today :O
He's trying his hardest not to directly admit that the truth of the world is actually Go Woke OR Go Broke.
The truth of the world? What are you, a dad giving a generic life talk to a comments section on yt?
Who has gone broke from “going woke?”
@@mckurves Nobody, that's why the original comment said go woke Or go broke
@@MrHendrix17 I misread. My b
This is such a shallow cope on their part and I love it. You can smell their fear.
I love how their 4th point is that low job security and professional desperation makes bad things happen (or well, what they think are bad things). And like, that's a central tenant of leftism that they constantly argue against. You want to fix the problem of people being terrified of losing their jobs over their beliefs and their employers whims? Great, support unions.
Discovering this channel was like discovering a delicious trove of Halloween candy at the top of the cupboard
1) Artists tend to be open-minded, creative, and novelty-seeking, which lends itself to being left-leaning.
2) In general, art requires a capacity for empathy and imagination. Empathetic and imaginative people will tend to care about others, and that tends to lend itself to being left-leaning.
2) Hollywood is a major metropolitan area, and most big cities are left-leaning.
3) The Film Industry exposes a person to many different people, places, and experiences, which will tend to lend itself to an opening of the mind and heart.
5) People will tend to share or mirror the values of those around them, for good or ill, for a number of reasons.
6) The Arts have historically attracted Outsiders, Outsiders often (but not always!) have a deeper appreciation for justice and fairness because they know what it's like to be ostracized and marginalized.
There, I solved it.
Of course, Hollywood's much more complicated than the conservatives will ever admit, because Hollywood's culture is actually *neoliberal* overall.
I love the bit about how there’s no job security in Hollywood, like, didn’t max landis kill a dude?
that was his dad, jon landis. killed 2 kids and an actor.
max is the predator lol
Ask Rich Evans
Max Landis is still one of the very few likable guys in Hollywood.😂
@@ramigilneas9274 he'a a serial rapist
@@sonicthehedgegod
So like Biden?
I love this public diary in preparation for the downfall of Twitter
You should talk about how election denialism correlates to your last point where it essentially say that there's this phenomenon I call "ideological poisoning," where people cannot comprehend other points of political view. I feel like the right has had this happen to them at record paces.
this is great, me and my friend were watching this video yesterday, it's so funny
the implied alternative is finding meaning and love through God
So according to prageru if you want meaning in your life then you should support leftist causes. Word.
They went full woke and not woke at the same time.
This twitter situation has become the best thing to happen in my entire life. Please keep doing this forever.
I’m really loving the daily small Joel content
“Christian Toto” hit single is “Africa, but we’re systematically destroying the local cultures to enforce our own” and it goes a bit like this “I PRAY FOR THE MISSIONARIES DOWN IN AFRICA”.
He actually very carefully gave the reason without saying it out loud.
Hollywood is "woke" because it financially and personally beneficial to reflect the values of the majority of society.
Enough about Christian Toto, I want to hear what Jewish Toto has to say, or perhaps Atheist Toto.
All I can tell you for certain is that none of them are in Kansas anymore.
Really enjoying this new smaller joel thing. Little snacks for my tiny brain. A little treat for a hungry little boy (my brain) thanks
PragurU and circular reasoning, name a more iconic duo.
Just returning to this video as the question is still on my mind and yet the answer remains so elusive... It's the number one thing on everyone's minds. I think about it 24/7, 24 hours in a row
Petition to start an average Joel channel
Regular-sized Joel.
Goldilocks sized.... *just right*
Empathy is a big part of acting, the ability to put oneself into someone else's position. I'd say some are overly good at it, being a little too sensitive, but honestly, I'd rather have someone be a little too sensitive than massively insensitive.
"People want to believe in shit"
"Why don't more believe in your shit"
"Uh coincidence"
Anyone else seen that PragerU ad where this girl just lists reasons why conservatives are terrible? There's not even a "but", she just keeps going.
And this is an Advertisement?
"Why is Hollywood So Woke? Because it's the correct and moral position that creates love and fulfillment for people." - PragerU
PragerU seems like a great place to get a PhD in self owns
When the majority of artists, scientists, and educators are lining up against you, the reasonable thing to do is reevaluate your position, but the conservative thing to do is entrench.
I am loving this channel. A+ content. No notes. Okay, 1 note: more dog and cat.
speaking completely egoistically, this channel was such a great idea
now i can have more nuggets of wisdom from joel more often all the time! thanks, joel!
loving the bite sized videos on this new channel Joel, you’re doing a great job taking the appeal of your main content and translating it into these shorter “tweet replacement” videos, keep it up ❤
also am i the only one who felt like when he says “being woke means job security”, hes implying a certain narrative that pop culture figures are made to conform to
… it felt just a tad conspiracy theory-ish to me
creative people tend to not be socially conservative. it's not rocket science, though admittedly prager U falls way short of rocket science.
I think they don't answer the question because that video isn't about anything. its just there to imply a vague conspiracy. It has no meaning or message beyond that.
Can confirm, I do not like conservatives because they are conservatives. 🤷🏽♂️
I don't like them because they are awful people. Unprincipled, cruel, mean-spirited, and willing to cheat
"There is a presasive belief that conservativsm is hate and anti-science"
WE ALL TRYING TO FIND THE GUY WHO DID THIS.
I just like their one point that a lot of it is "just a coincidence." Like "Why is Hollywood so woke? Idk dude it's probably just a coincidence" lmao
I interpreted that part as sarcasm, like a little wink tying back into deep state bs that the evil liberals secretly control everything
That entire vid could be used in an exam question about explaining circular reasoning lmao
I love these little Joel updates. A snack size take to take on the go.
To whatever extent Hollywood votes to the left beyond just urbanism, it's probably related to the type of job that actors have: if you're an engineer or a farmer, you should follow in the footsteps of your predecessors or your building will collapse and your crops will fail. If you're an artist or an actor, you *have* to innovate and add your own spin to have any hope of real success.
The answer is actually quite simple. Actors, along with artists, want to do their work unimpeded, and it just so happens that left leaning people are more tolerant of artworks that are generally more thought provoking or challenging (Say what you will about "cancel culture, I don't care), whereas Conservatives typically go out of their way to ban or place draconian rules in media.
If Conservatives had it their way, all our media would just be Christian or capitalist propaganda, as we have seen in the present and in the past.
"Why do people dislike me just cos I'm wrong about everything?" - Prageru
It's the same reason all the arts are so woke. Conservatives just aren't creative. Which makes sense since their entire political view is "I don't like change." Ben Shapiro's books and movies are perfect example.
If conservatives could make good art, you'd think they would have done it, somewhere in the world, at some point in the last 80 years.
I saw someone mention that it's probably about how conservatives don't value art, but I wanna piggyback on that and mention that conservatives just don't like the concept of *entertainment* too much. They like having the content to consume, sure. But entertainment as an industry is something seen as meaningless and unproductive among those groups. They believe there's no value in the arts or entertainment as they don't see them as real, tangible things to contribute to the economy. They think that the entire industry would be best set to rot and the actors and writers sent to factories or fields. I think its the same reason they generally hate humanities courses or social science courses in colleges - they don't fit the conservative view of "productivity."
loving the little joel vids my dude
It's pretty fucking simple really. Artists tend to be more left leaning because art is a machine for empathy.
Your main channel should have this channel listed on the 'channel' feed. (currently it's just Jenna marbles?!)
You got community unlocked my man. I'll watch for post #1.