Removing the engine on my 150k miles Porsche 911: the Not-So-Good Friday drop…!
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
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It had to happen sooner or later… after 150,000 miles (71,000 of which I have done in five years while visiting 11 different countries!), the M96 flat six engine on my Porsche 911 has needed to come out for some much needed maintenance. Here's what happened! A HUGE thanks to the guys at Wrightune for taking care of the car, for all Porsche servicing, maintenance and mechanical restoration work give Chris a call or visit www.wrightune.co.uk/
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The cost is the cost, it's an old 911 with 150k miles on it. The memories it's given all its owners in over twenty years, just think of it were a lesser manufactured brand, it would be made into a dishwasher by now and little Irish is still perfectly usable as a modern classic 911. Nice to see the dedication Lee.
225.000km on my 1997 996; four engines. First original engine blown up due to hard track use by earlier owner, second AT replacement short block had a disastrous rebuild with misaligned heads due to a uneven block, a mechanic that shredded some threads in one of the heads and figured it was ok to use helical insert threads and two component glue etc etc. Third engine was then a rebuild of the second disaster that lasted maybe a month until that ended up in a total intermix disaster. 12 months later the car got a factory new 2021 stamped long block (block, heads all internals) all auxiliary components replaced etc. Purrs like a cat now. While I did have that engine swap I bought a factory rebuild and zeroed G96 manual gearbox, installed the Numeric shifter and cables. Like you said the 996.1 base Carrera is absolutely the most Porsche 911 driving and ownership pleasure for any money. Hope to see you on the roads of Norway this spring/summer.
Oh wow, that's quite a story! I'm glad you're finally reaping the rewards. Wishing you a bill-free 2024!!
Out of interest, do you know what ims version is fitted to a brand new M96?
@@chrisb9360the new M96AT engine is based on the reinforced 997 engine with internal large lifetime IMS and improved heads with regard to better cooling
170 000Km on my 2017 991.2. 1 engine, never out. Hoping to make 250 000km before we even consider it.
What a great car! 70k miles and counting under your ownership. Very impressive. We enthusiasts are lucky to have shops like this around. Good work.
Thank you! It's great to still be driving such a great car as it was intended, 26 years after it was made.
Being from the States, hearing the mechanic say that driving 2 hours round-trip for the clutch was them “driving halfway around the world.” made me laugh. 😂 Great content keep it up!
Hahahaha, I can imagined that may have tickled you guys Stateside!!
Brilliant video Lee, the guys there are so on point some sound advise given to you and us viewers of this cracking channel. Keep those miles and memories coming. 👍
Awesome job!!
Way to give little Irish some love!!
Good video. It’s a shame some of those rusty bolts you didn’t replace 😢
Thanks for sharing Lee. Open & transparent as always. This car has given you great service over the years. As previous owner of early 996 can I attest to their all round abilities - so on balance it’s done very well. 👍
Good job, always good to do preventative maintenance whilst it's out. Best way to go for peace of mind to carry out many more miles of happy motoring.
Ive really enjoyed this episode...keep these videos coming! Great work
should reveal the cost, its part of the interest.
3.9L Hartech in mine now. I fitted new back box hangars this winter, chuffing expensive. DIY rebuild of the 964 engine this year too. (Might ask Wrightune to help with the machining/inspection). £££. The 'while it's out' is a mixed bag of satisfaction and cost. Thanks for posting.
Was it a 3.6 or 3.4 originally? What extra was involved if it was a 3.4? What power gains?
Would love to know what the labour cost was Lee please
Great video. Always good to see a car being looked after and driven
Well done mate I have done the same thing on my 997 the fuel rails look worse then they will be the metal on them is thick one thing I would add on 997.1 is the oil level sender as well and the spark plugs are piss easy with it on the floor
Good effort on the mileage and good to see it being used
Great video again Lee, sometimes its a problem knowing when to stop with the preventative maintenance.
My 997 had that squeaking problem upon start up, sound like a distressed pig. I bought a reconditioned one off eBay for about 90 quid and changed it in front of my house its been fine since then that was like 6 years ago
Same here with my 997.1…I had a starter for £100 new some shop on eBay roughly 4 years ago I was told go for a Lucas or Bosch like the original in the video but as that failed in 3 years
I’m glad I bought the one I have….
It's a VW unit... They always make those noises.. Just a quirk, starter is fine ! ;-)
Good for another 70k ! No more pushing round the streets of Mulhouse 🤣. Nice informative video 👍🏻👍🏻
I just love the sweater! Trigger would be proud! 😊
Hahahaha great spot Dav! #ofah
Amazed this is the 1st time the engine has been out on this car 👍
You will need to replace some parts in the engine but it’s just a part of motoring. Always nice to look at the anatomy, so big thanks for the video!
AOS, Y-cable, clean and cali the injectors, coils, and plugs, IMSB, clutch, pressure plate, pressure bearing, RMS, watter pump .... I think you have a new expansioin tank already, new aux-belt. YOu might want to renew starter motor. If your cats are original the insulations are done. Tensioners. And really I would do also the cam chain sliders. And do the boroscope now. ... any starter motor problem can also be Y-cable problem.
Move down to Australia, the weather is more kind to our cars down here 😂 Only kidding Lee. Love the videos on your Porsche! ❤
Leaking of the IMS bearing is not an indicator for a failing one. It will fail for sure even without leaking.
Did you ever cut your engine oil filter open to check for excessive wear?
If the engine is out it makes absolutely sense to change the IMS and also check for bore scoring on these M96 (non Mezger) engines.
Whatever they spray on your roads is nothing short of a crime against humanity.
From a DIY perspective, doing the AOS with the engine in took me about 10 hours, so for the price of them its defo a job to do when it's out.
Nice video thanks. Would love to know - like everyone else - how much this work cost. Also, can you please confirm that you bought the fella that beer at the end ? Thanks PS Irish Green is great I have to say.
"That's pretty horrible"............. understatement of the century! That's a near total junker.
Great decision
I can’t help but think I’m listening to James Blunt on the voice overs
the damp UK weather kills all the metal bits
My 996.1 is on 208k. Its just come back after a cracked cylinder head intermixing disaster. Its a great car, but needs to redeem itself for the major size of the bill..😢
Oh my god! I can feel the trauma. Fingers crossed for a painless ownership experience from here!
Change the brake pipe man!
2 pieces and welded together, you could have cut it and shortened it the same way it was built,
Well on the flip side it will be good as new!! Maybe we should start a fund to help our pal?? 🤔
How are the Meyle suspension parts holding up? How many miles have you done on those?
Either change everything perished or buy a lift at home because you're going to have to deal with an engine out pretty often on that old thing
My thoughts exactly. If little irish is a weekender then lee could take a month to do this work when hes got the time. Older cars like these aren't difficult to work on provided youve got the right tools.
Of course you need adequate space to do this. Which lee may not.
Do you have the part number for that sprung clutch disk? Can't seem to find a sprung one compatible with lightweight flywheel anywhere.
Thank you!
Good morning my friend pete! My interior cost 30 K
That starter motor looks like ti was rebuilt, so probably lasted a lot longer than 70k miles.
I meant to ask is Irish on the original IMs?
Didn’t do the rusty fuel rails?
How much did all the work cost 💲
looks like you need a new oil filler tube too.. "while you're there"
Bosch are not what they used to be. Many German brands have reduced the quality of their products to compete with high quality Indian and Chinese parts. Same thing with Tyres, there is no difference in quality between good Chinese tyres and expensive Michelin, but you will pay a lot more for the branded items. Even new Porsche cars are not built to the same standard as the earlier cars were. Your 996 is better built than a new 992.
Well how much?!
Might be a plan to drown everything in acf50 with all that salt thrown at it😅
Whilst the engine is out, id have the bay and engine thoroughly cleaned. It will give the car years if done correctly
New starter motor on the original flywheel can mean the worn flywheel teeth rear up the starter motor teeth prematurely. Personally on 150k car I’d change the flywheel along with the starter. Good moment to fit a lighter fly wheel as well.
Thanks for the insight, though a lighter flywheel is already fitted.
@@9WERKSTV just got there in the video 😂
Which starter motor did you get in the end? Thanks
Bosch, for my sins.
@@9WERKSTV haha 🤞🤞🤞(is that the reconditioned one from Design911?)
While you're in there...
Are they now going to change the ADW on the back of that clipboard to HCD? #HolyClipboardofDoom
So while the engine is out, are you going to get it dry ice cleaned?
No, I’m keen to explore dry ice cleaning but want to look at ways to then protect everything after, which is more important.
@@9WERKSTV well, that can be a slippery slope. With how you use the car, there best answer is regular deep cleaning. There are clear protective coatings, but to do it most effectively, you would really need to disassemble and clean/treat each piece, and that's not likely to happen for most of us. I'm certainly in that camp. I want to keep stuff together and drive the car as much as possible.
After all that’s doubled up whiffle and repetition, we never found out how much it cost.
Hahahaha cheers for watching.
What was the bill?
Porsche tax! If you have to ask! 🥲
@@chriscarbaugh3936 ha ha I’ve got a similar car was just curious
That’s what I was hoping for in the video but no mention of…😢…How much you guys thinking…£2000 all in..😮
@@mikefranky 6 months ago I had a number of things done on my 986, including the clutch. It was £2,400.. I'm thinking this would have cost a fair bit more than that.
It's never great to get big bills but when the car performs better afterwards and the confidence it gives you, it's all worth it. It's only money.😁
@SpencerF6 .....I had engine rebuild on my 997.1...Bore scoring ims etc etc....£7000..🤦♂️
EBC pads are awful
so 4500 pounds all up?
Waited right to the end for the cost. Would have been helpful for current and potential owners!
Any engine out as here is absolute minimum £3k+, the cost varying wildly according to a number of factors:
- How easy the engine comes apart (bolts shearing off etc)
- Labour rate of your chosen specialist
- Cost of replacement parts used (OEM v cheap knock-off etc).
Hence the reason my cost isn't included, because it's not going to be relevant to the very next car on the ramp.
Do it yourself. Save some money and learn some skills. It's an easy engine to get out and to work on.
I'm gonna guess 4k pounds. Will we ever know?
Porsche really are junk, I have over 200,000mls on my Tesla Model S and it’s only needed two door handles at £500! It’s also way faster than a Porsche and fits the family and stuff in it. Can’t understand why people pay soo much for these things?
It has no class or heritage , let’s see how it stands in 20 years.
"Nobody needs one, but everybody wants one." Ferdinand Porsche. nuff said.😄
Lol teslas are junk they look like shit sound like shit and like elon said thy are not a car company they are a tec company so have funk with your computer I'll play with the vws
P.s when you pull up witht the tesla no reaction you pull up with a porsche everyone's your new friend
And clearly you want one your watching the videos 😂😂😂😂
Agreed lee parts are just getting made cheaper and not lasting as long ....but at this age and miles I think what your doing is all GOOD SERVICE requirement because you really use your car and will more than get your value from the spends even if you dropped 10k in her your put another 60000 miles on it by the end of the decade easy and no doubt another track day 🫶👌 money well spent Lee on your pretty green Irish peril 💚💚💚