6:28 flesh duplicate should’ve came in as a nadu, sac the original to the legend clause, giving you the ability to reset all your nadu triggers since flesh duplicate is a new instance, and you could’ve stormed off a lot more.
@@M15CH13F yep, I definitely missed that play there in game! My inexperience with the deck was showing there, this was maybe my 3rd or 4th ever Nadu game. Thanks for checking out the video :)
@@FarNorthMtG no problem, I absolutely love Nadu. I’ve been theory crafting with it since release, and finally have the deck, but I haven’t played with it yet and I’m so excited to.
Why do you use a Flesh Duplicate on a Scute Swarm instead of on Nadu itself, sacrificing the original to the Legend rule and restarting everything with a new "Nadu"?
Ya know… damn. I definitely should have done that lol that could have been the push I needed to close out sooner than I did. This was my 3rd or 4th time playing the deck so my inexperience with the deck shows there 😅
@@FarNorthMtGanother thing I think you could have done if your running dryad arbour you could have gone invasion for 0 then have a scute swarm trigger then that would be 4 more deep I believe
I dont know why ppl don't just kill on sight every single time no matter what such a boring thing to watch and play against. But hey let them play with themselves until they try to win.
As a Nadu owner, the fear of ban is real (at least with shuko). But what will decide its fate will be the forfun players. Other cards were banned because forfun and non cedh metas...nadu can really shine at edh 100 (in Brazil is edh 500, which is "100 dollars lists") and highpower metas with combos etc, but if the casual players insists in Nadu it will be banned. They didnt insist with Tassa oracle, high standard partners and kinnan, so I hope nadu goes the same wway
11:58 if casting a spell for it's Flashback cost, if the spell gets countered it goes back to graveyard? So casting Flashback cost only exiles itself if you successfully cast it? Also i just want to mention; Nadu, Winged Wisdom is Tier SS Selvala, Heart of the Wilds is Tier B Shorikai, Genesis Engine is Tier D Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh // Thrasios, Triton Hero has 1344 decks (0.032%) Rank #803 or AKA "Untiered."
@@MageSkeleton good catch! I just had to look this up after your comment. It actually should have been exiled after being countered and going back to the graveyard! We did this wrong here. Luckily didn’t really change anything but this is good to know for the future. Thanks for checking out the video! :)
Kinda of a non-game this time around; but try to convince Dillon to play Infectious Bite instead of Bridge Works Battle, given it can also be a win con looping with Ewit Same with the new lands from MH3 - Shifting Woodlands can turn into a big boi/cradle/nyx that is currently in the grave as a mana boost, or Talon Gates to ensure Selvala makes it to the next turn or phase out a blocker for lethal - I'm thinking forest > shifting Woodland, Ronom > Talon Gates Love to play me some green lamborghini
The most fun part of this video eas the fact that even with whiffing, the only reason the table got 1 more turn after Nadu sculpting a hand of multiple counterspells was that Otawara cannot be countered. That is in my opinion the biggest problem with the bird. Had it been any castable removal instead of ability, the bird draws off of it for free then has a huge chance of that draw being a free or 1 mana counterspell, punishing the player who kept up mana for removal instead of playing for their own board. I really dislike Nadu's interaction with removal, like it sickens me in 60 cards and it sickens me in 100 cards (where removal is really scarce already in cEDH, and even when you act responsible, you get punished for it) 😂
@@martinlefebvre963 you can re-equip to the same creature even if it is equipped already! It’s just reactivating an ability, Shuko doesn’t care if Nadu is already equipped. Thanks for checking out the video though :)
At 5:51 with having two clones I would cast meta morph copying Nadu and keep the copy to reset the ability and then copy your token maker with mana after.
@@paolodecesaris169 yep I completely missed that play in game 😅 my inexperience with Nadu was definitely showing there. Thanks for checking out the video :)
Can anyone tell me if nomad-en kor and nadu work the way i think. I use nadu in my 99 and i find being able to target everyturn for 0 causing nadu to activate on ppls turn is good idk if it works though
@@MetalsitoX yup! Good point. That definitely was better. I missed that play in the game! My inexperience with the deck definitely showing there, I think this was my 3rd or 4th ever Nadu game so I definitely could have played that better!
@@FarNorthMtG makes sense, people still experimenting with the bird... plays insanely well vs everything, and bowmasters not interacting with it and being a 4 bottom makes it stick like glue in the battlefield :(
When Shorikai flashed back Sevinne's it makes a copy of it as well so they would of had to counter both of them. Sad that got missed cause it could of saved the game
You made 2 many scute swarms u don't copy twice you just make a scute swarm for each scute u have so you should've only made 10 when you had 8 copies but that didn't change the outcome good game
@@ajuggas actually you can! yes you cannot unequip the Shuko without another creature but you can reactivate the ability to equip for the purposes of targeting Nadu - Shuko (or any equipment for that matter) don’t check if the creature is already equipped, there’s no need to “unequip.” as long as you can pay the equip cost, you can technically activate the ability to target the creature again. Greaves is the exception to this since it also grants Shroud. Thanks for checking out the video also :)
@@FarNorthMtG you can not "requip" to the same creature either again there must be another creature on the battlefield to preform this action! you might want to check out the basic rules for equipment. thank you for trying to miss inform everyone. I will now use you as learning for other judges.
@@ajuggas I’d recommend you look it up actually before you accuse me of spreading misinformation. equipment do not require it to be a new creature you equip to. 702.6a Equip is an activated ability of Equipment cards. “Equip [cost]” means “[Cost]: Attach this permanent to target creature you control. Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery The only thing it checks is that you have a creature to attach it to, equipment don’t check to see if they’re already equipped to the creature being targeted. People use this same combo with Shuko and Cephalid Illusionist to mill libraries. It’s also literally on the gatherer page for Shuko :)
Ick.... I think that is the best start for Nadu that I have seen yet. That was just disgusting 😂😂😂
6:28 flesh duplicate should’ve came in as a nadu, sac the original to the legend clause, giving you the ability to reset all your nadu triggers since flesh duplicate is a new instance, and you could’ve stormed off a lot more.
@@M15CH13F yep, I definitely missed that play there in game! My inexperience with the deck was showing there, this was maybe my 3rd or 4th ever Nadu game. Thanks for checking out the video :)
@@FarNorthMtG no problem, I absolutely love Nadu. I’ve been theory crafting with it since release, and finally have the deck, but I haven’t played with it yet and I’m so excited to.
It’s a lot of fun! I definitely enjoy the deck quite a bit!
Thank you!
Also congrats on the subs homie! Keep kickin butt and makin vids!
Why do you use a Flesh Duplicate on a Scute Swarm instead of on Nadu itself, sacrificing the original to the Legend rule and restarting everything with a new "Nadu"?
Ya know… damn. I definitely should have done that lol that could have been the push I needed to close out sooner than I did. This was my 3rd or 4th time playing the deck so my inexperience with the deck shows there 😅
@@FarNorthMtGor what I was thinking as soon as it got flipped it would be a second scute swarm so when landfall triggers you get 4 nadu flips
@@FarNorthMtGanother thing I think you could have done if your running dryad arbour you could have gone invasion for 0 then have a scute swarm trigger then that would be 4 more deep I believe
Came here to say this same thing as a Nadu pilot 😅 it hurt my soul knowing either flesh or metemorph of Nadu instead of delighted halfling
5:40 I’m not ok with Nadu getting triggers when your touch you creatures 😂
Nadu is really really good. But it's also a very boring commander to watch.
I dont know why ppl don't just kill on sight every single time no matter what such a boring thing to watch and play against. But hey let them play with themselves until they try to win.
As a Nadu owner, the fear of ban is real (at least with shuko). But what will decide its fate will be the forfun players. Other cards were banned because forfun and non cedh metas...nadu can really shine at edh 100 (in Brazil is edh 500, which is "100 dollars lists") and highpower metas with combos etc, but if the casual players insists in Nadu it will be banned. They didnt insist with Tassa oracle, high standard partners and kinnan, so I hope nadu goes the same wway
It’s hard to know what the RC will do! I personally don’t think it needs to be banned but the RC has done weirder things
Up, mano.
cringe nadu player
15:18 definitely heard a cat trying to give some advice
I should have listened… I think that’s Sushi?
On nadu turn two the flesh duplicate should’ve been the commander to reset triggers. Much higher chance of getting there
Maybe Otawara should have targeted the Crypt at 8:14, not enough mana for the pact trigger at upkeep
11:58 if casting a spell for it's Flashback cost, if the spell gets countered it goes back to graveyard? So casting Flashback cost only exiles itself if you successfully cast it?
Also i just want to mention;
Nadu, Winged Wisdom is Tier SS
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds is Tier B
Shorikai, Genesis Engine is Tier D
Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh // Thrasios, Triton Hero has 1344 decks (0.032%) Rank #803 or AKA "Untiered."
@@MageSkeleton good catch! I just had to look this up after your comment. It actually should have been exiled after being countered and going back to the graveyard! We did this wrong here. Luckily didn’t really change anything but this is good to know for the future. Thanks for checking out the video! :)
But dem Gandalf sleeves got me feelin some type of way.
Kinda of a non-game this time around; but try to convince Dillon to play Infectious Bite instead of Bridge Works Battle, given it can also be a win con looping with Ewit
Same with the new lands from MH3 - Shifting Woodlands can turn into a big boi/cradle/nyx that is currently in the grave as a mana boost, or Talon Gates to ensure Selvala makes it to the next turn or phase out a blocker for lethal - I'm thinking forest > shifting Woodland, Ronom > Talon Gates
Love to play me some green lamborghini
That opening hand was super suspect.
The most fun part of this video eas the fact that even with whiffing, the only reason the table got 1 more turn after Nadu sculpting a hand of multiple counterspells was that Otawara cannot be countered.
That is in my opinion the biggest problem with the bird. Had it been any castable removal instead of ability, the bird draws off of it for free then has a huge chance of that draw being a free or 1 mana counterspell, punishing the player who kept up mana for removal instead of playing for their own board.
I really dislike Nadu's interaction with removal, like it sickens me in 60 cards and it sickens me in 100 cards (where removal is really scarce already in cEDH, and even when you act responsible, you get punished for it) 😂
How did Nadu Player Play fetch Land and shifting woodland turn 2?
The scalding tarn was from a nadu equip( the second time)and the shifting woods was land for turn
Very good. I like it.
I don't think you can unequip then equip again like that at 2:33
@@martinlefebvre963 you can re-equip to the same creature even if it is equipped already! It’s just reactivating an ability, Shuko doesn’t care if Nadu is already equipped. Thanks for checking out the video though :)
@@FarNorthMtGcool I didn't know that
I think people are mind locked in to your supposedly not being able to re-equip because of seeing Lightning Greaves too many times.
@@hoshino5994 very likely! I’ve definitely been answering this question quite a bit between this video and my last Nadu video 😅
In my play group, if the bird makes that turn 1 we just scoop and start another one from zero
At 5:51 with having two clones I would cast meta morph copying Nadu and keep the copy to reset the ability and then copy your token maker with mana after.
Yuuup haha misplay there, I totally missed that. This was probably my 3rd or 4th time piloting the deck, my inexperience is showing there
@@FarNorthMtG it’s a difficult line I only know it because I’ve seen other players be aggressive with their resetting 🤷♂️
There is a misplay here: with flash dup you can just dupe your nadu to reset all triggers
@@paolodecesaris169 yep I completely missed that play in game 😅 my inexperience with Nadu was definitely showing there. Thanks for checking out the video :)
I'm surprised you didn't make the flesh duplicate as a copy of nadu to reset all stuff on your insects from S. Swarm.
Believe me, I’m surprised too! Definitely missed that in game. That would have been the play for sure if I saw it!
@FarNorthMtG You're good. Lol
I tend to not do it in my build, but that's bc I aim for more of a midrange game. Lol
Can anyone tell me if nomad-en kor and nadu work the way i think. I use nadu in my 99 and i find being able to target everyturn for 0 causing nadu to activate on ppls turn is good idk if it works though
From what i can tell it targets and doesnt care if damage is dealt to nomads i can still use the ability to get nadu triggers
Yeah, that combo should work! People use Nomads with Cephalid Illusionist in this way to mill their library
average Nadu cedh start 😳😳
btw wasnt it better to cast the copy as a nadu to give all your dudes the ability again? 6:22
@@MetalsitoX yup! Good point. That definitely was better. I missed that play in the game! My inexperience with the deck definitely showing there, I think this was my 3rd or 4th ever Nadu game so I definitely could have played that better!
@@FarNorthMtG makes sense, people still experimenting with the bird... plays insanely well vs everything, and bowmasters not interacting with it and being a 4 bottom makes it stick like glue in the battlefield :(
When Shorikai flashed back Sevinne's it makes a copy of it as well so they would of had to counter both of them. Sad that got missed cause it could of saved the game
No, the copy is made only if the spell resolves, not on cast.
i need to build a nadu but my bank account isnt rolling like that
Proxying is free! The entire deck I’m playing in this video is 100% proxies
@@FarNorthMtG the store i play at dont allow proxies, be nice if they did though me and nadu be having a good time lol
@papagrizziy6942 your store only cares about money then, not the game. Find a different store.
5 out of top 8 is pretty ban hammer worthy
Game ends at 12:45, not worth watching the rest unless you really want to watch solitaire
Game basically was over yeah, but I gotta play it out for the video! 🙂 thanks for checking out the video!
@@FarNorthMtG ya just dissing Nadu gameplay cause its awful to watch lol.
Should’ve flesh on Nadu
You made 2 many scute swarms u don't copy twice you just make a scute swarm for each scute u have so you should've only made 10 when you had 8 copies but that didn't change the outcome good game
Each Scute Swarm creates a copy of itself, so 8 goes to 16.
@@UT91490 8 copies and 2 'real' ones
Play wrong with nadu bro 😅
nadu players are so cringe, the deck literally plays itself only reason players pick him is because of the win rate.
nadu is so gross lol
it did not really affect the game but you can not unequip the shuko. you must have another creature to move the equipment to for looping with nadu
@@ajuggas actually you can! yes you cannot unequip the Shuko without another creature but you can reactivate the ability to equip for the purposes of targeting Nadu - Shuko (or any equipment for that matter) don’t check if the creature is already equipped, there’s no need to “unequip.” as long as you can pay the equip cost, you can technically activate the ability to target the creature again. Greaves is the exception to this since it also grants Shroud. Thanks for checking out the video also :)
@@FarNorthMtG you can not "requip" to the same creature either again there must be another creature on the battlefield to preform this action! you might want to check out the basic rules for equipment. thank you for trying to miss inform everyone. I will now use you as learning for other judges.
@@ajuggas I’d recommend you look it up actually before you accuse me of spreading misinformation. equipment do not require it to be a new creature you equip to.
702.6a Equip is an activated ability of Equipment cards. “Equip [cost]” means “[Cost]: Attach this permanent to target creature you control. Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery
The only thing it checks is that you have a creature to attach it to, equipment don’t check to see if they’re already equipped to the creature being targeted. People use this same combo with Shuko and Cephalid Illusionist to mill libraries.
It’s also literally on the gatherer page for Shuko :)
@@ajuggasyou are just wrong please do some research before making dumb comments go ask around and see what the internet says