@@lk6789 I suppose they will say the pay rise is nothing to do with them, It's implemented. But the WASPI womens recomendation by the ombudsman is unaffordable. What ROLLOX.
Liz Kendall has a very rich lifestyle outside of her job. She is worried about spending the Tax payers money. She is quite happy to claim thousands of pounds each year from the tax payers for her heating bills. The stench from westminster must be choking
'Difficult decisions' - why not take the difficult decision of NOT spending £11 billion on foreign 'climate change' projects - or billions on 'carbon capture' nonsense?????
Those things create British jobs. Britain makes a LOT of carbon capture and green energy generation equipment. That's why the government are promoting it so much, it's investment
@@stevec6427 how does giving africa 11billion in climate change funds create British jobs? We don't even make the wind turbines, not the solar panels...
Pensioners have betrayed the young by giving them a country that drains every penny they earn in terms of student loans, exorbitant rents etc and which they will never have a stake in. And that's in light of the young sacrificing their youth during the Covid pandemic in order to save pensioners.
Why should my taxes pay for 25 years of pensions when the system was designed to pay for 5-10 years worth of pensions. I can't afford it, neither can all the others in my generation. Baby boomers need to stop being greedy.
They are much worse than the Tories even though the Tories where bad and needed a kicking, I voted ReformUK. ReformUK did not target Liebour voter in the month Sunak gave them too campaign.
Reform is full of crank and Thatcherites who will not benefit the working class in any way. The sad part is they will get in because people don’t have a better option.
They don't actually give these countries hard cash. They give them 'consultancy' and they give them the consultants for a year or four. It's the same with military aid to Ukraine. They don't handover billions in cash. They wire it to BAE systems etc and ask them to make so many bombs and missiles.
£11 million was sent to Syria day before the £55mil. £550 million sent to rwandan farmers week before. Another £11 billion sent to 'foreign climate initiatives'
Yes, England will hand over power to either the Tories or Farage and everyone will suffer the consequences one of which will be an exit from the ECHR and a further step towards the end of the UK.
Looks like they had since 1995 to prepare when it passed in Parliament? Please explain to me how your government should pay these? I'm genuinely curious what the issue is here as an America. Would your citizens who planned on retiring in the EU be able to sue over Brexit liming free movement?
,p,s,,,,,,,as if Labour actually care about the other groups here.inc. the homeless don,t make me "Laugh".......why shell out SO much dosh on illegal migrants etc...............and prioritise them before our own????????????????????????????
My wife lost over 4 years of her pension my anger at this Labour government is unbearable I feel so sorry for all these waspi women the hardship of some has been unbearable.Migrants on BENEFITS increasing every day these women have been betrayed this Labour government is not fit for purpose they are sickening and should be ashamed of themselves.
The decision was made by the conservatives not labour. Migrants will be taxpayers in the future which are needed to pay for pensions because pensions are paid by taxation: There is no pot PENSIONS ARE A BENEFIT!!!!
Betrayal is always difficult to defend isn't it. Why was this announced when Starmer was out of the country. He was happy to pose with the waspi women when in opposition. Starmer has betrayed yet another recognizable demographic. We are only 6 months in. I'm an atheist but I can't help thinking - God help us.
That was bloody painful to watch. I'd have loved it if they just cut her mic and ended the interview to make a point about her refusing to answer the questions.
One disaster after another. Money is always found for wars or foreign aid but are unable to find the money for the hardworking British people who have paid into the system all of their lives. Labour are an utter disgrace
Question- it is suddenly discovered that MP’s and Civil Servants were underpaid £10billion in pension entitlements, how long before a full payment is paid- one day, one hour?
They say they cannot afford to compensate, but how much did they gain from making these changes in the first place, some 6yrs of women's pension not paid out at all, so where did all that money go? Never any accountability, surely a country has the right to see where all the money goes???
My sister was a VERY outspoken lady in supporting WASPI ,sadly she died in August..Cancellation will ensure migrants get 3 meals a day,4 star hotel,cigarettes,Iphone, NHS & dental treatment straight away ,the Gvt get free clothing and heating allowance for TWO premises..Roll on REFORM !!
The point here is not whether 90% of women knew about the changes (if true) or that the government can’t afford it. This is mere side tracking. The point is Starmer and Rayner along with other Labour Party politicians clearly MISLED voters and the WASPI campaigners saying they were on their side in the battle against a conservative government that had treated them unfairly in the battle for justice and compensation… So yes perhaps the UK can’t afford it and perhaps some did know - it’s just that they once again gave the clear impression and have hoodwinked a huge number of voters to vote for labour and this is yet another broken promise. As one waspi woman said this morning - a lot of labour voters are wondering why in hell they voted for Starmer and co who have lied and hoodwinked to get power.
Best take I've seen so far. I don't agree with paying them anything but the fact that kier and so many other top officials clearly misled people in the election is undefendable. I will however point out that the cons and reform would've done the exact same thing so let's not go pretending they're better on this issue.
In opposition,Liz Kendall was all for WASPI and calling out the Conservatives to do something/anything was her challenge. How this Government has changed from the party of caring and sharing,allegedly,to one of abandoning needier people,OAP’s Winter fuel payments and of course WASPI. Thoughtless and uncaring Mr Starmer,another lost vote here.
It seems that all the decisions that affect people badly, pensioners, farmers, employers, waspi women, putting up fuel bills, etc are "difficult decisions", but giving money to train drivers , public servants, foreign climate projects, illegals, mad net zero policies, now Syria, are not difficult at all.
What was once a contract to pay NI for up to 35 years to qualify "Entitlement" to a pension, is now a "Benefit" Beware worse is to come. Retirement unaffordable, for a great deal of workers expect to work well into their 70s, pension benefit raised to 72 before Labour is finished.
So to help pensioners they took away the winter fuel allowance took away the WASPI money this helps them how. They created the housing crisis by giving away houses to immigrants.
I hope the labour MPs enjoyed their pictures with the Waspi women because they're going to be seeing them a lot at the next election. Assuming they don't scrap that too.
Why should women have been able to retire earlier than men. Why is nobody campaigning for them get compensation? It is equal now, men and women retire at the same age, the way it always should've been
I worked with my local council as a foster carer for 20 years. Even though I had to answer to them, they did not offer me a pension and for tax purposes I was classed as self employed. That’s not fair is it. I’m a waspi woman also.
Compensation should not go to women who as a sex were allowed to retire 5 years before men even though the life expectancy of men was considerably less, this was despite equalities legislation being enforce. Men were unlawfully discriminated against, so the compensation payments should go to all those men who were forced to retire considerably later than women. As the gentleman on times radio said this morning women equating this issue with the horizons pensions scandal was absolutely disgusting and totally offensive.
I wasn’t a difficult decision for them at all. If it had been they could have mitigated it by allowing Waspi women the winter fuel payment at the very least. There was no will. They are as shameless as the partying Tories.
To be honest who cares what any of these so called MPs say now. If there’s difficult decisions to be made in the future by Starmer’s government who is going to believe what he says now or indeed the future.
The real unfairness is that men had to work untill age 65 for a pension and women could retire at 60 and their life expectency is longer than a man. Since then I cannot retire until age 67 and we just keep on accepting all this with no complaint whatsoever,
What a load of rubbish this women is saying, she cannot or will not answer the question , deliberately talking over the interviewer. Not a good look minister
Sod your apologies,that doesn’t help pensioners .If Starmer can get off his backside and stop wasting our money flying around the world first class there might be some money.
Why is it when the recommendation was to give public sector large pay rises they found the money for their union pay masters, yet when the recommendation is to give pensioners compensation for government mistakes both Labour and Conservatives then sorry the pot is empty..
There was a reason why Labour hammered rioters of August riots with massive sentences and it had a lot more to do with what they expect to come than what happened….
The Government CANNOT decide what is fair or just, between it and a complainer. That is why an independent body decided the issue and both sides accepted this. Later, one side, the Government cannot decide an award or fine or cost is too great, and opt out. That invokes bad faith and hurt feelings last.
This issue has been known about for 15 years. For 14 of those years the Tories did what?? Not around the detail on this any more than The Daily Mail would be - would need to understand why people didn't understand ramifications.
£130.000. grand a year to just keep uttering urrrr, urrrr, urrrr, urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. How embarrassing was that!.
Don't forget the extra 4.5% pay raise they are due ? January. 2.8% for nurses and a total of 10.?% for Mp's, two pay rises in less than 6 months.
@@lk6789 I suppose they will say the pay rise is nothing to do with them, It's implemented. But the WASPI womens recomendation by the ombudsman is unaffordable. What ROLLOX.
Liz Kendall has a very rich lifestyle outside of her job. She is worried about spending the Tax payers money. She is quite happy to claim thousands of pounds each year from the tax payers for her heating bills. The stench from westminster must be choking
"Mosque security" and 5* hotels for foreigners won't pay for itself.
Another load of garbage from an MP who just carries on talking regardless to what is being said....totally out of her depth....
All the same.
Out of her depth on a dry floor.
Absolutely!
Whats garbage is women retiring 5 years earlier than men when men die earlier on average. They shouldn't get a penny.
IT GETS WORSE EVERY DAY WITH THIS LOT !!!! LABOUR FULL OF UTTER CRAP..SHE WONT EVEN ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
'Difficult decisions' - why not take the difficult decision of NOT spending £11 billion on foreign 'climate change' projects - or billions on 'carbon capture' nonsense?????
Those things create British jobs. Britain makes a LOT of carbon capture and green energy generation equipment. That's why the government are promoting it so much, it's investment
Out of her depth.
@@stevec6427 how does giving africa 11billion in climate change funds create British jobs?
We don't even make the wind turbines, not the solar panels...
emberassing
@@stevec6427hahahahaha
There is a big black hole ,they are going to fill with pensioners.
And lies!. 🙄🤥😒....
They're just going to fill the country with immigrants to replace us.
Pensioners have betrayed the young by giving them a country that drains every penny they earn in terms of student loans, exorbitant rents etc and which they will never have a stake in. And that's in light of the young sacrificing their youth during the Covid pandemic in order to save pensioners.
Why should my taxes pay for 25 years of pensions when the system was designed to pay for 5-10 years worth of pensions. I can't afford it, neither can all the others in my generation. Baby boomers need to stop being greedy.
Lessons have to be learnt, never EVER vote labour
I learnt that lesson from voting Blair/Brown... and I'm not that clever.....
What is the point in Labour if they just do the same as the Tories
Waffle waffle
Driving England towards Farage who will be backed by US money to win power.
People are seeing they are the same governing organisation - playing the people.
They are much worse than the Tories even though the Tories where bad and needed a kicking, I voted ReformUK. ReformUK did not target Liebour voter in the month Sunak gave them too campaign.
Reform is full of crank and Thatcherites who will not benefit the working class in any way. The sad part is they will get in because people don’t have a better option.
amazing how they can find £50 million for syria
to be fair 50 million is about 0.5% of 10 billion
They don't actually give these countries hard cash. They give them 'consultancy' and they give them the consultants for a year or four.
It's the same with military aid to Ukraine. They don't handover billions in cash. They wire it to BAE systems etc and ask them to make so many bombs and missiles.
£11 million was sent to Syria day before the £55mil.
£550 million sent to rwandan farmers week before.
Another £11 billion sent to 'foreign climate initiatives'
@@robinette4363Good 👍
Exactly, £50 million for Syria, and this will only be the beginning! Then some of them will probably turn against us!!
It's an absolute disgrace. Starmer's inability to keep his word on so many issues is going to be a massive issue at the next election.
If this dictatorship government has its way there will not be another general election stop them now before they get any further
Yes, England will hand over power to either the Tories or Farage and everyone will suffer the consequences one of which will be an exit from the ECHR and a further step towards the end of the UK.
We can't wait that long, country is being destroyed
Looks like they had since 1995 to prepare when it passed in Parliament? Please explain to me how your government should pay these? I'm genuinely curious what the issue is here as an America. Would your citizens who planned on retiring in the EU be able to sue over Brexit liming free movement?
I hope we get to have another election. I feel we are no longer living in a democratic country!
All I hear when they talk is here's how we're improving things for illegal immigrants
She's not listening she's just droning on ....
She was just trying to save face, and change the subject. But she did have lots to say, mainly rrrrrr-rrrrrrr-rrrrrrr-rrrrrrrr. What a disgrace!.
She drones like robot reeves and starmer
What a car crash interview, one word BETRAYED !
,p,s,,,,,,,as if Labour actually care about the other groups here.inc. the homeless don,t make me "Laugh".......why shell out SO much dosh on illegal migrants etc...............and prioritise them before our own????????????????????????????
@@alisonlaing5626 we really should have invested more in your written language education that's for sure!
My wife lost over 4 years of her pension my anger at this Labour government is unbearable I feel so sorry for all these waspi women the hardship of some has been unbearable.Migrants on BENEFITS increasing every day these women have been betrayed this Labour government is not fit for purpose they are sickening and should be ashamed of themselves.
The decision was made by the conservatives not labour. Migrants will be taxpayers in the future which are needed to pay for pensions because pensions are paid by taxation: There is no pot PENSIONS ARE A BENEFIT!!!!
Yawn................she's talking BS.
Wasn’t difficult to send £50 million to Syria though was it!!!!
Wow is this the best labour have got? She hasn't got a clue. This is soon to be a national emergency soon
No money Keir says but happy to give 13.8 billion to Ukraine no doubt. LOL. Money is there when it's needed. That's it.
DEFLECT, BLAME AND LIE!!
That old chestnut "The mess the last Government left behind" dragged out by every incoming Government during my lifetime 😡😡😡
Why dont Labour Answer the questions?
They’re all the same! They’re all liars! Everyone of them! Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, SNP…..all the same! 🤦🏻♂️
There's no change, the Tories didn't answer the questions either!
@@stanthesteelguitarman8228 fair enough
Very difficult decisions
22 billion black hole
Fixing the foundations
I am sick to the back teeth of these bunch of lying crooks.
next week another 10 billion to Ukraine.
Difficult decision: compensation for pensioners, or house illegals full board in hotels?🤔
Stop the hotels and put britsh people in them
Betrayal is always difficult to defend isn't it. Why was this announced when Starmer was out of the country. He was happy to pose with the waspi women when in opposition. Starmer has betrayed yet another recognizable demographic. We are only 6 months in. I'm an atheist but I can't help thinking - God help us.
That was bloody painful to watch. I'd have loved it if they just cut her mic and ended the interview to make a point about her refusing to answer the questions.
All 3,800,000 of these ‘robbed ladies’ should sign the Government Petition for a new General Election.
Poor woman was sent out as a sacrificial cow because the big beasts dare not face it.
All Labour interviews these days are PAINFUL. None of them answer direct questions and the policies they have are indefensible...
Without doubt this is the last time any Labour Party will get to govern this country - the people won’t forget ! Lies & more lies.
This Labour woman does not know what to say, she knows its wrong.
It's*
It's not wrong.
Why do they all talk in the same condescending way. Blame is not an answer. Very bad decision making. We are as a country are not being represented
One disaster after another. Money is always found for wars or foreign aid but are unable to find the money for the hardworking British people who have paid into the system all of their lives. Labour are an utter disgrace
I think we can guess what is going to happen to our pensions. We won't be entitled to claim them.
Yes means tested by then.
Yes I feel means tested very soon .
All lies as USUALL.
Usual*
Question- it is suddenly discovered that MP’s and Civil Servants were underpaid £10billion in pension entitlements, how long before a full payment is paid- one day, one hour?
They say they cannot afford to compensate, but how much did they gain from making these changes in the first place, some 6yrs of women's pension not paid out at all, so where did all that money go? Never any accountability, surely a country has the right to see where all the money goes???
Starmer is going to Prison!
No he Isn't!
Labour - a new word that defines the term ‘Not Fit For Purpose’
Waspi women with their hands out. Work longer like everyone else had to.
She is so embarrassed because she knows they are in the. Wrong lies after lies after lies talking out her backside
Liars!!!
My sister was a VERY outspoken lady in supporting WASPI ,sadly she died in August..Cancellation will ensure migrants get 3 meals a day,4 star hotel,cigarettes,Iphone, NHS & dental treatment straight away ,the Gvt get free clothing and heating allowance for TWO premises..Roll on REFORM !!
That turned into a racist rant pretty fast.
My sister ,and 2 sister's in law never got the chance to enjoy retirement. 😢
The point here is not whether 90% of women knew about the changes (if true) or that the government can’t afford it. This is mere side tracking.
The point is Starmer and Rayner along with other Labour Party politicians clearly MISLED voters and the WASPI campaigners saying they were on their side in the battle against a conservative government that had treated them unfairly in the battle for justice and compensation…
So yes perhaps the UK can’t afford it and perhaps some did know - it’s just that they once again gave the clear impression and have hoodwinked a huge number of voters to vote for labour and this is yet another broken promise.
As one waspi woman said this morning - a lot of labour voters are wondering why in hell they voted for Starmer and co who have lied and hoodwinked to get power.
More than 90% these women just want handouts for stupid life choices.
That's politics there is no advertising standards for politics - remember Brexit
Best take I've seen so far. I don't agree with paying them anything but the fact that kier and so many other top officials clearly misled people in the election is undefendable. I will however point out that the cons and reform would've done the exact same thing so let's not go pretending they're better on this issue.
In opposition,Liz Kendall was all for WASPI and calling out the Conservatives to do something/anything was her challenge. How this Government has changed from the party of caring and sharing,allegedly,to one of abandoning needier people,OAP’s Winter fuel payments and of course WASPI. Thoughtless and uncaring Mr Starmer,another lost vote here.
It seems that all the decisions that affect people badly, pensioners, farmers, employers, waspi women, putting up fuel bills, etc are "difficult decisions", but giving money to train drivers , public servants, foreign climate projects, illegals, mad net zero policies, now Syria, are not difficult at all.
What was once a contract to pay NI for up to 35 years to qualify "Entitlement" to a pension, is now a "Benefit" Beware worse is to come.
Retirement unaffordable, for a great deal of workers expect to work well into their 70s, pension benefit raised to 72 before Labour is finished.
She is talking 💩 and lying. Waspi women remember this I know that the tories are much the same.
Disgusting get them Out Now!!!
What, overthrow democracy, loot Greggs and impose Farage until the Great Orange One arrives ?
What a rude horrible person. She can't answer the question because there is no answer.
It’s alright to give massive pay rises to train drivers are on £50-£60,000 a year already
So to help pensioners they took away the winter fuel allowance took away the WASPI money this helps them how. They created the housing crisis by giving away houses to immigrants.
Same old garbage.
It’s going to happen to all of us soon. They’re telling us 67 but it’s going to be 77. There isn’t going to be any money.
Yes and then means tested . And they will want proof. Of bank accounts
I hope the labour MPs enjoyed their pictures with the Waspi women because they're going to be seeing them a lot at the next election. Assuming they don't scrap that too.
Red tories 2 cheeks of the same back side.
Why should women have been able to retire earlier than men. Why is nobody campaigning for them get compensation?
It is equal now, men and women retire at the same age, the way it always should've been
I worked with my local council as a foster carer for 20 years. Even though I had to answer to them, they did not offer me a pension and for tax purposes I was classed as self employed. That’s not fair is it. I’m a waspi woman also.
Compensation should not go to women who as a sex were allowed to retire 5 years before men even though the life expectancy of men was considerably less, this was despite equalities legislation being enforce. Men were unlawfully discriminated against, so the compensation payments should go to all those men who were forced to retire considerably later than women. As the gentleman on times radio said this morning women equating this issue with the horizons pensions scandal was absolutely disgusting and totally offensive.
For all those that voted for labor... How does that buyers remorse feel now?
I wasn’t a difficult decision for them at all. If it had been they could have mitigated it by allowing Waspi women the winter fuel payment at the very least. There was no will. They are as shameless as the partying Tories.
Sick of them saying it was a very difficult decision Labour government is a disgrace
No letter, not a delay in receining a letter
Yet 99% of people knew.
What an embarrassment these Labour ilks are.
To be honest who cares what any of these so called MPs say now. If there’s difficult decisions to be made in the future by Starmer’s government who is going to believe what he says now or indeed the future.
'improving living conditions'' yeah for boat people
What about men who have to work till 67 what about there rights.
Their
Fair point.
Let's not forget women were denied access to pensions available to men.
I kno
Starmer will sort it, in his second term in office!. 🤣😂🤣😂..
The real unfairness is that men had to work untill age 65 for a pension and women could retire at 60 and their life expectency is longer than a man. Since then I cannot retire until age 67 and we just keep on accepting all this with no complaint whatsoever,
What a usless interview, from both women. I can't listen to two voices at once
What a load of rubbish this women is saying, she cannot or will not answer the question , deliberately talking over the interviewer. Not a good look minister
She's got shifty eyes from all the lies
Disgusting what they are doing but they can give away 50 million
Sod your apologies,that doesn’t help pensioners .If Starmer can get off his backside and stop wasting our money flying around the world first class there might be some money.
Why is it when the recommendation was to give public sector large pay rises they found the money for their union pay masters, yet when the recommendation is to give pensioners compensation for government mistakes both Labour and Conservatives then sorry the pot is empty..
Easy fix stop the boats
There was a reason why Labour hammered rioters of August riots with massive sentences and it had a lot more to do with what they expect to come than what happened….
God what a waste of air and space this person is!
...is she an AI Bot? The moral decadence of this goverment is beyond describtion!
The Government CANNOT decide what is fair or just, between it and a complainer. That is why an independent body decided the issue and both sides accepted this. Later, one side, the Government cannot decide an award or fine or cost is too great, and opt out. That invokes bad faith and hurt feelings last.
Get these useless grifters OUT.
Blah blah blah blah
She’s a disgrace
They are such lies
Newsflash: Men, who for so many years had to work till 65 to get the state pension - compared to women getting it at 60 - now DEMAND compensation !!!
They're own fault for voting Labour in the first place!
Lies, lies, lies and more lies.
Full equality with men. It works both ways ladies.
I warned people about Labour
Well deal with it.
Waspi were completely silent when they were retiring 5 years before men.
Kendells more tory then labour traitors
She can talk and talk and talk even better than Jim McMahon, when interviewed by Mike Graham 😫😫😫😫😫
There is only 1 lesson to be learned. Never vote Labour.
Err err err err
I think she has been told what to say but knows it is rubbish and her brain won't let her. She will have been trained on this.
@ and her “ err err err” shows her incompetence
A ‘Very Difficult’ decision, that was decided in a heartbeat .
Equality is equality.
the minister sounds like a chatbot gone rogue
Lier lier, ( i don,t care keir ) never intended to honour the waspies
Rule of thumb "lessons must be learnt" means I don't care. I'll do nothing. Blame someone else.
This issue has been known about for 15 years. For 14 of those years the Tories did what??
Not around the detail on this any more than The Daily Mail would be - would need to understand why people didn't understand ramifications.