They had since 1995 to prepare when it passed in Parliament? Please explain to me how your government should pay these? I'm genuinely curious what the issue is here as an American. Would your citizens who planned on retiring in the EU be able to sue over Brexit liming free movement?
It should be men who are compensated....for having had to work 5 years longer than women to qualify for a state pension. Unbelievable that women who benefited for decades from an unfair advantage want compensation when it's withdrawn!
1000000000% thats what im saying, the people who were benefiting from the pension inequality have the audacity to demand compensation for it being made equal
Waspis literally expect money for ignorance, if allowed it would never end. At least labour have had the cahoonas to end the uncertainty and with iht they are ending another long standing tax inequality.
This is the only thing Labour have done I agree with. Why should women have ever received their state pensions at 60 when men had to work until they were 65?
This would cost the taxpayer approximately 10.5 billion to pay out in compensation, for something men have had to deal with for generations.. equality isn’t all it’s made out to be is it ladies!
Could someone explain to me why these women are complaining… We were all told about the governments plans to increase pension age. It’s seems okay for them to ask for equality but appears they only want it when only when it suits them. Maybe us men should take the government to task in their unfairness making men work for 5 years longer than women for so many years…
Sorry but they did know, but they didn't want to work until they receive their pension at 66. They should be thankful - I've got to work (a manual job too!) till 67. Only decision I've actually agreed with by this sorry excuse for a government.
Don’t get it. These people couldn’t check on their own financial affairs? We had the internet 20 years ago… I don’t rely on letters to be told what I’ll get. She was caught once and then chose to not check the status again? Seems very lazy to me
They were given 15 YEARS warning to sort this!!! Ffs these women had plenty of time. Why should we pick up the tab for their own mistakes? Labour did the right thing here.
Yes and no. Yes, the whole country knew about the increases in retirment ages. It was hotly debated in the news at the time, and we've all (men and women) been looking to see if our state pension retirement year slips back further. The WASPI women didn't bother to check. This headmistress is a worrying example for our education system. No, Labour should not get praise for this though. In opposition, Starmer and Co supported the WASPI women claim. Now they are in power, suddenly they won't pay it. Just another example of Labour saying populist things to gain votes dishonestly.
Labour encouraged and supported this when in opposition, now reneged on it, sound familiar?! More lies and deception. Why? To accumulate more money to accommodate gimmigrants, benefiteers and to send overseas!
"They got equality"?!! According to PwC, it will take over 45 years for the UK to close the gender pay gap. This means that a 21-year-old woman entering the workforce today may never see pay parity
It's just like 'Ignorance of the law is no defence'. The vast majority knew as far back as the 1990s. It was on TV news and in all the newspapers at the time when it was announced by John Major. It doesn't affect me but I remember it well.
Complaining about getting their pension at 65. So want everyone else that will probably be looking at getting their's closer to 70 to pay for it. Even though they have lived through the period of huge stock market gains and bought their house for a tenner. Not glad that they aren't being compensated but personally feel the youth of today have it much harder than pensioners do at the moment
😂 so have I got this straight, the woman campaigning for pension “equality” got just that, with the age raised to that of men, and now they’re moaning…… 😂 ohhhhhh the Irony……
I was born in 1953, and I did not receive a letter. However, I have not expected any compensation on this. My sister who was born in 1948, and has had her pension for 7 years more than I have, which equates at a very conservative estimate of about £20k. I can understand why people are upset, however, I am more angry at the winter fuel payment being stopped, and the £billions wasted in pay rises to civil servants and train drivers with no conditions attached!
Ok, this has brought me out to comment: This is the first first moment in this session Labour has attracted my vote! How do these women think ALL men have had to cope ALL their lives, and ALL the younger generation, plus ALL women and men who now have to reach 67 feel. Did they campaign for these groups EVER? Campaigning on a loophole but leaving everyone else out in the cold - at last justice for those who will never reach not 60 but 67 !!!
💯 % correct. 70% knew..20 yrs warning. Not 1 of the other 30% of women complained when they thought they were getting s/pen at 60 but men were 65...not 1 protested and said men should retire at 60 the same as us?
The Ombudsman also - as i understand it acknowledged that most of those women coming under the waspi banner (93%) knew of the changes regardless of whether they got a letter or not. The idea therefore of giving a universal payment costing £10b of taxpayers money to compensate when the majority knew (and therefore had choices to keep working) is so stupid I am surprised that it has even got this far. I would suggest to those waspi women who are choosing to continue to fight on that they use their energy to go and get a job instead and stop expecting the state to look after them - especially when the Government has committed to the pension triple lock which is costing younger taxpayers money they desperately need themselves.
We did know. I cannot remember receiving a letter but it certainly was in the media. Many of the protesters are from the Public sector and had the privilege of being able to retire early on big pensions before receiving their State one. They are not fighting for the women who didn't have this. They did know.
This woman is lying through her teeth that she didn't know the pension age was going up. She ran a school of 250 people and she didn't know the pension rules. That's absolute nonsense.
@@judithmorganjudyteen - I was specifically talking about someone who ran a school with 250 people and claims she never had a discussion with HR or the financial controlller about pension policy or staff retirement, or even checked on her own retirement options. Or read the news. She's either incompetent or is lying.
@@GeoffV-k1h The thing that's also frustrating is that journalists seem to take these stories at face value. The idea of running a large school where others must have retired, and that she got to the age of 59 was shortly planning to retire herself and was undoubtedly talking to friends and colleagues about her plans, yet no-one mentioned that the retirement age had gone up is clearly preposterous. Why don't journalists challenge this clear nonesense?
Labour backed the campaign for compensation whilst in opposition, now in Government they sacked the campaign. Is there no cohort Labour are not willing to alienate...oh yes the unions, who will take and take in the interest of their members not the country
The teachers' unions had been constantly striking over the whole issue of the rising state pension age as well as changes to the TP scheme from way back in the early 2000s. So I find it hard to understand how this Headteacher was unaware of the rules changing. (AS for none of her staff knew????) Sorry, no.
WASPI ! SLY play the live interviews Labour gave when TORIES in power…saying they would compensate WASPI Women when inPOWER? Rayners interview..STARMERS stand in solidarity aswell.
Perhaps this lady should be the one accountable, she admits she advised her staff incorrectly and didn’t check any of the details. Maybe if these woman spend 8 years working instead of campaigning there pensions wouldn’t be so small
I am appauled that she needs a letter through the door to know what everyone else had known for over a decade. She's also a former headmistress, so her pension will be large. She can also take it earlier than her state pension and bridge the gap with her tax free lump sum.
Waspi is not as important as Ukraine . Labour government supported Ukraine and sent them £2 billion and promised more. Corruption of Ukraine needs all free money from uk. Maybe waspi should get a Ukrainian passport and get their through zelenskiy government.
We often started work and we faced both pay and promotion inequality when we started working in the 70’s - something women no longer face today. I am disgusted with this Government - farmers, no heating allowance, WASPI, no action on the promised ban on hunting.
Did they know? Probably not, but I just don't think that people of this age with great pension schemes funded by the public (much better terms than us in the private sector) should be asking other tax payers to give them £10k tax free cash, especially when the country is in its current economic state. On an individual basis, this lady was giving pension advice to her colleagues, despite having zero qualifications to do so, or to properly research it. This is very worrying, and Id suggest she may personally be financially liable to anyone she advised.
I suspect most of them went, "urgh pensions & politics, boring not interested" but it's a total lie to suggest they weren't told. This women on here is unreal, she was a headteacher, so someone in that position & be oblivious to current affairs. Not to mention she could've retired at 50 on her works pension
I am not devastated because, as a WASPI woman, I knew from day one we would never receive compensation. What I am sick of is people suggesting we were all informed of this. I am a person who has always been meticulous as regards paperwork, managing my finances etc. and I can categorically state that I was NEVER informed, via a direct communication, of this change and quite frankly am fed up of some people implying that we were all silly old women who were financially incompetent. I am fairly sure the fact that some men, at the time, were starting to campaign about lowering pension to 60 for them as well may have influenced the Government to rush into lowering the age for women, which contributed to the complete administrative mess which followed.
There is a big difference between people knowing a change is coming and knowing how it will affect them personally. Pensions are complex and the rules keep changing. And when the government decided to accelerate the process they changed the number of qualifying years of contributions overnight; leaving many women short of a full record entitling them to a full pension. Reply
Considering I’m probably going to have to work until I am 80, my heart bleeds for these woman who is wanted to retire at 60. What are we going to do with all the semi detached houses they brought for £5k a pop??? Someone’s needs to cut the cord on the most selfish generation to every exist
The government have done the right thing. Most affected women will have known about the changes for 20 years before its implementation. Paying the claimed compensation would cost billions and have to be paid by everyone including the millions of pensioners who receive the 'old' state pension which is only 2/3 the amount the lucky Waspi women will receive
Oh ye of short memory! Don't blame Labour and Starmer's Chancellor! Remember the Pandemic! Remember Johnson's crazy and corrupt spending! THIS! Is why, the UK's financial situation is so dire at this time! -- Sometimes, I ask myself, what happened to the resilience and honour of this once great Nation? What happened to it's Patience? End.
This is the same as taking the pensioners fuel allowance taken without any notice. Don't take it away next winter - take it away now. Good luck waspi women - don't stop fighting for what is rightfully yours.
I'm an American, so please educate me: is there a difference in 'state pensions' between men & women? What are 'state pensions' - pensions for people working for the government? Thanks-
A state pension is for all working people who have paid National Insurance contributions for over 30 years. The state pension used to be payable to women at age 60 and men 65. They drastically changed women's retirement from 60 to 66 without any warning, saving the government Thousands of pounds. The women want so e of that money back which was robbed off them. UK people who don't work are supported by welfare benefits.
@@yvonnelygo681they gave plenty of warnings about the increase. I was born in 1965 and knew in 1995 as it was all over the tv news that it would be rising over the next 20 years. If I knew then these women would also have known then and stop whingeing now about their awful plight. Most of them sound like fairly well to do women anyway like this woman, an ex headmistress for crying out loud, hardly on the breadline
@@yvonnelygo681Without any warning? We’ve known this was happening for 30 years! It’s the extra shift from 65 to 66 that woke up some people…this has been a total non story from the start. Guess what? Nearly everyone currently working will retire at 67 or 68, with much less notice!
Waspi women are not owed a penny. It is men who were discriminated against by the female privilege of a pension at 60. Waspi women are losing their sexist privilege . I kept up to date and knew it so all these women could have learned this. Now men should get extra pension for the real discrimination they faced. No to keeping female privilege. Yes to real equality.
Most of the btl commentators on here have not a clue about the history of the UK from the post war to the present day. Utterly ignorant. There were very good reasons for women being allowed to retire at 60. Not difficult to find out why. This lady's right: 30 years of contributions went up to 35 overnight, along with the pension age changes. Taken together, these ensured that women were unable to save for their pension, even if they knew, if they were in low-paid occupations without a works pension. Not all women werwe/are middle-class professionals.
There are two reasonable ways of dealing with this issue. 1) Implement the Ombudsman findings in full. 2) Assess objectively on a case by case basis what each lady should be awarded. Option 3) of just saying no is the act of a stupid, incompetent and unjust government.
@@RPAGN "True but adopting the Ombudsman recommendation would have been a just outcome." Not just for the people who have to pay for women who ignored 30 years of pension information.
Here is a tweet from Keir Starmer 23 November 2019 Justice to end 'historic injustice. WASPI - Women Against State Pension Inequality Campaign Labour pledges £58bn to help women caught in pension trap. 'We owe debt of John McDonnell said that a "debt of honour to 3 million' honour"
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These were the women that wanted equality, just not the bits they didn’t like
Not 1 complained when they retired at 60 and men were 65..kept as quiet as mice then.
In my opinion women are entitled to retire at 60 without them no human race
@@lewismcdonald3616 that’s not how things work
all the money was spent on hotels
And the train drivers workers or wait there on strike again 😅
The royal family is taking billions from tax payer funded NHS…bigger isssues are at hand, not some small boats from countries we destroyed
Compensation for not being informed thoroughly enough. Seriously. Everyone seems to think they're entitled these days. Get real
Unfortunately for them, WASPI campaigners have failed to read the room
They had since 1995 to prepare when it passed in Parliament? Please explain to me how your government should pay these? I'm genuinely curious what the issue is here as an American. Would your citizens who planned on retiring in the EU be able to sue over Brexit liming free movement?
Men live shorter than women but had to work longer for generations. That's real injustice
Yes men should have retired earlier. At least now it's more fair.
It's such bullshit how men are treated, we are seen as the devil but get all the hard knocks
It should be men who are compensated....for having had to work 5 years longer than women to qualify for a state pension.
Unbelievable that women who benefited for decades from an unfair advantage want compensation when it's withdrawn!
1000000000% thats what im saying, the people who were benefiting from the pension inequality have the audacity to demand compensation for it being made equal
and they want the men who have been discriminated against to pay more in taxes to fund their 'compensation'. Disgusting!
Waspis literally expect money for ignorance, if allowed it would never end. At least labour have had the cahoonas to end the uncertainty and with iht they are ending another long standing tax inequality.
This is the only thing Labour have done I agree with. Why should women have ever received their state pensions at 60 when men had to work until they were 65?
This would cost the taxpayer approximately 10.5 billion to pay out in compensation, for something men have had to deal with for generations.. equality isn’t all it’s made out to be is it ladies!
@@jackgill9747 and they arnt financially hit either because they worked 5 more years
😂
She was a teacher and she says erm this much? Wow.
Could someone explain to me why these women are complaining… We were all told about the governments plans to increase pension age. It’s seems okay for them to ask for equality but appears they only want it when only when it suits them. Maybe us men should take the government to task in their unfairness making men work for 5 years longer than women for so many years…
Sorry but they did know, but they didn't want to work until they receive their pension at 66. They should be thankful - I've got to work (a manual job too!) till 67. Only decision I've actually agreed with by this sorry excuse for a government.
Don’t get it. These people couldn’t check on their own financial affairs? We had the internet 20 years ago… I don’t rely on letters to be told what I’ll get. She was caught once and then chose to not check the status again? Seems very lazy to me
They were given 15 YEARS warning to sort this!!!
Ffs these women had plenty of time. Why should we pick up the tab for their own mistakes?
Labour did the right thing here.
Yes and no.
Yes, the whole country knew about the increases in retirment ages. It was hotly debated in the news at the time, and we've all (men and women) been looking to see if our state pension retirement year slips back further. The WASPI women didn't bother to check. This headmistress is a worrying example for our education system.
No, Labour should not get praise for this though. In opposition, Starmer and Co supported the WASPI women claim. Now they are in power, suddenly they won't pay it. Just another example of Labour saying populist things to gain votes dishonestly.
Not only that but the men who really have been discriminated against would also bear the burden of higher taxes to help pay for this spurious claim.
Labour encouraged and supported this when in opposition, now reneged on it, sound familiar?! More lies and deception.
Why? To accumulate more money to accommodate gimmigrants, benefiteers and to send overseas!
They wanted equality.
They got equality.
What’s the problem?
The problem is they don't like this bit of equality.
These women believe men having to wait 5 years more to retire is somehow unfair to women! The entitlement of feminists never stops
"They got equality"?!! According to PwC, it will take over 45 years for the UK to close the gender pay gap. This means that a 21-year-old woman entering the workforce today may never see pay parity
@@richardgilyead7640 but women also work fewer hours
Starmer can't even identify a biological woman, this comes as no surprise.
If they get compensation it should be split equally with all men who also missed out on a pension from the age of 60. Equality for all
It's just like 'Ignorance of the law is no defence'. The vast majority knew as far back as the 1990s. It was on TV news and in all the newspapers at the time when it was announced by John Major. It doesn't affect me but I remember it well.
Margaret thatcher forced to change inequality in retirement age by EU.She chose to increase age for women not reduce age for men.1989.
"Government say no to waspi women". And "waspi women" say no to Starmer at the next election.
Don't underestimate the self-sabotaging tendencies of the middle class, lmao.
Well two can play at that game - I wont vote for any political party that supports them!
Start planning for the next election now....vote Labour out..
I don't think middle class pensioners would vote Labour regardless.
@StanStanman-o3e he will only be there till next election, if that... Middle class pensioners or not.
Expecting compensation for selective ignorance of the law. 😂
And for being given preferential treatment over men for years.
Toxic feminism has cost trillions, these woman should be paying the state reparations.
Complaining about getting their pension at 65. So want everyone else that will probably be looking at getting their's closer to 70 to pay for it. Even though they have lived through the period of huge stock market gains and bought their house for a tenner. Not glad that they aren't being compensated but personally feel the youth of today have it much harder than pensioners do at the moment
Anyone with a Mortgage in the 80s and 90s paid huge interest rates at times. Compared to recent times.
@mr.145 Yeah 15 percent of £20k Not 5 percent of £300k. Do the maths.
@@paulbarker6743 What type of house did 20K buy in the early 90s?
😂 so have I got this straight, the woman campaigning for pension “equality” got just that, with the age raised to that of men, and now they’re moaning……
😂 ohhhhhh the Irony……
I was born in 1953, and I did not receive a letter. However, I have not expected any compensation on this. My sister who was born in 1948, and has had her pension for 7 years more than I have, which equates at a very conservative estimate of about £20k. I can understand why people are upset, however, I am more angry at the winter fuel payment being stopped, and the £billions wasted in pay rises to civil servants and train drivers with no conditions attached!
Train drivers 😂😂😂
Ok, this has brought me out to comment: This is the first first moment in this session Labour has attracted my vote! How do these women think ALL men have had to cope ALL their lives, and ALL the younger generation, plus ALL women and men who now have to reach 67 feel. Did they campaign for these groups EVER? Campaigning on a loophole but leaving everyone else out in the cold - at last justice for those who will never reach not 60 but 67 !!!
💯 % correct. 70% knew..20 yrs warning. Not 1 of the other 30% of women complained when they thought they were getting s/pen at 60 but men were 65...not 1 protested and said men should retire at 60 the same as us?
The Ombudsman also - as i understand it acknowledged that most of those women coming under the waspi banner (93%) knew of the changes regardless of whether they got a letter or not. The idea therefore of giving a universal payment costing £10b of taxpayers money to compensate when the majority knew (and therefore had choices to keep working) is so stupid I am surprised that it has even got this far. I would suggest to those waspi women who are choosing to continue to fight on that they use their energy to go and get a job instead and stop expecting the state to look after them - especially when the Government has committed to the pension triple lock which is costing younger taxpayers money they desperately need themselves.
Well said.
Current taxpayers' taxes are not ring fenced for pensioners.
We did know. I cannot remember receiving a letter but it certainly was in the media. Many of the protesters are from the Public sector and had the privilege of being able to retire early on big pensions before receiving their State one. They are not fighting for the women who didn't have this. They did know.
Probably a difference in knowledge between people born in early fifties to late, as news will have trickled down.
What a surprise another attack on pensioners 😡
Not an 'attack' but equality. Deal with it.
@@DrStrangelove-w9w 🤣😂🤣
Labour will be gone in 4@@DrStrangelove-w9w
The pensioners have never had it so good .
@@BrianWillcox-qp2hr very Strange comment...Labour are gone in 4
Presenter looks totally disinterested.
Probably because her retirement age is 68
Its horrible women are being treated almost equally to men, men being 65 fir a pension.....
This woman is lying through her teeth that she didn't know the pension age was going up. She ran a school of 250 people and she didn't know the pension rules. That's absolute nonsense.
Well, I must be another liar then as I didn't know
@@judithmorganjudyteen - I was specifically talking about someone who ran a school with 250 people and claims she never had a discussion with HR or the financial controlller about pension policy or staff retirement, or even checked on her own retirement options. Or read the news. She's either incompetent or is lying.
The unions were making their members aware all that time - from early 2000s onward.
@@GeoffV-k1h The thing that's also frustrating is that journalists seem to take these stories at face value. The idea of running a large school where others must have retired, and that she got to the age of 59 was shortly planning to retire herself and was undoubtedly talking to friends and colleagues about her plans, yet no-one mentioned that the retirement age had gone up is clearly preposterous. Why don't journalists challenge this clear nonesense?
@@kerravon2527the others must have retired at sixty though, if she only found out at 59.exactly like me.
Labour backed the campaign for compensation whilst in opposition, now in Government they sacked the campaign.
Is there no cohort Labour are not willing to alienate...oh yes the unions, who will take and take in the interest of their members not the country
The Tories didn't back them in Government, now, apparently, support them.
I was a widow at 41, was expecting to retire at 60. And didn't actually retire at 67. With no letter from dwp!! Didn't know about this waspi!!
Erm um err why do these people end up on err um err tv
The teachers' unions had been constantly striking over the whole issue of the rising state pension age as well as changes to the TP scheme from way back in the early 2000s. So I find it hard to understand how this Headteacher was unaware of the rules changing. (AS for none of her staff knew????) Sorry, no.
WASPI ! SLY play the live interviews Labour gave when TORIES in power…saying they would compensate WASPI Women when inPOWER?
Rayners interview..STARMERS stand in solidarity aswell.
Perhaps this lady should be the one accountable, she admits she advised her staff incorrectly and didn’t check any of the details. Maybe if these woman spend 8 years working instead of campaigning there pensions wouldn’t be so small
I am appauled that she needs a letter through the door to know what everyone else had known for over a decade. She's also a former headmistress, so her pension will be large. She can also take it earlier than her state pension and bridge the gap with her tax free lump sum.
Disgusting betrayal by Starmer and his cronies
I never received letter etc...
As many others didn't....
Me neither
There will suddenly be plenty of money in the gravy pot, for the next MPs Pay increase.
It was an out and out ''LIE' like all the other LIES ...
Denying these harpies compensation is literally the only good thing starmer has done!
If only there was a manager they could speak to about this
Waspi is not as important as Ukraine . Labour government supported Ukraine and sent them £2 billion and promised more. Corruption of Ukraine needs all free money from uk. Maybe waspi should get a Ukrainian passport and get their through zelenskiy government.
I didn’t know. Left work at 59 to have an operation and then no bloody pension! I’m on my own. Government stinks!
We often started work and we faced both pay and promotion inequality when we started working in the 70’s - something women no longer face today. I am disgusted with this Government - farmers, no heating allowance, WASPI, no action on the promised ban on hunting.
Started work at 16 that is
Amazing that she managed to be a professional woman without googling her pension age for decades
WASPE more like
Exactly. They don't want the bad things equality brings...
Did they know? Probably not, but I just don't think that people of this age with great pension schemes funded by the public (much better terms than us in the private sector) should be asking other tax payers to give them £10k tax free cash, especially when the country is in its current economic state.
On an individual basis, this lady was giving pension advice to her colleagues, despite having zero qualifications to do so, or to properly research it. This is very worrying, and Id suggest she may personally be financially liable to anyone she advised.
Think how people slightly younger feel. I expected to retire at 60, yet now it's 67.
I suspect most of them went, "urgh pensions & politics, boring not interested" but it's a total lie to suggest they weren't told.
This women on here is unreal, she was a headteacher, so someone in that position & be oblivious to current affairs. Not to mention she could've retired at 50 on her works pension
Why should she retire at fifty ?
@judithmorganjudyteen I didn't say she should, I said she could which makes a mockery of her claims about relying on SP in order to retire
I am not devastated because, as a WASPI woman, I knew from day one we would never receive compensation. What I am sick of is people suggesting we were all informed of this. I am a person who has always been meticulous as regards paperwork, managing my finances etc. and I can categorically state that I was NEVER informed, via a direct communication, of this change and quite frankly am fed up of some people implying that we were all silly old women who were financially incompetent. I am fairly sure the fact that some men, at the time, were starting to campaign about lowering pension to 60 for them as well may have influenced the Government to rush into lowering the age for women, which contributed to the complete administrative mess which followed.
Agree, par for the course now though.
There is a big difference between people knowing a change is coming and knowing how it will affect them personally. Pensions are complex and the rules keep changing. And when the government decided to accelerate the process they changed the number of qualifying years of contributions overnight; leaving many women short of a full record entitling them to a full pension.
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Wtf are they doing, complete amateurs, I'm shocked and lost
I don’t want compensation I want my pension returned in full that I spent my hard working life paying for.
Only if where was a phone number any random member of the public can call in to find out when they're going to retire. Oh, wait! there is!
Wait a minute what is life expectancy for men and women in the UK? 78 for men and 83 for women? Okay carry on
Only sensible u turn he made.
I have to work until 67, when can I kick off?
Considering I’m probably going to have to work until I am 80, my heart bleeds for these woman who is wanted to retire at 60. What are we going to do with all the semi detached houses they brought for £5k a pop???
Someone’s needs to cut the cord on the most selfish generation to every exist
The government have done the right thing. Most affected women will have known about the changes for 20 years before its implementation. Paying the claimed compensation would cost billions and have to be paid by everyone including the millions of pensioners who receive the 'old' state pension which is only 2/3 the amount the lucky Waspi women will receive
Not all the waspi women are on the new pension
The real ones are. Ie those affected by the 2011 changes going from 65 to 66
Just create a special tax code for them and exempt them from paying tax for "X" amount of time to the value of the compensation. SIMPLE
'oh no i have to work a few years extra but still years below the men so i demand compensation'
Oh ye of short memory! Don't blame Labour and Starmer's Chancellor! Remember the Pandemic! Remember Johnson's crazy and corrupt spending! THIS! Is why, the UK's financial situation is so dire at this time! -- Sometimes, I ask myself, what happened to the resilience and honour of this once great Nation? What happened to it's Patience? End.
This is the same as taking the pensioners fuel allowance taken without any notice. Don't take it away next winter - take it away now. Good luck waspi women - don't stop fighting for what is rightfully yours.
@@6079_SMITH_Wshould we have had a crystal ball ?
I'm an American, so please educate me: is there a difference in 'state pensions' between men & women? What are 'state pensions' - pensions for people working for the government? Thanks-
A state pension is for all working people who have paid National Insurance contributions for over 30 years. The state pension used to be payable to women at age 60 and men 65.
They drastically changed women's retirement from 60 to 66 without any warning, saving the government Thousands of pounds. The women want so e of that money back which was robbed off them.
UK people who don't work are supported by welfare benefits.
@@yvonnelygo681they gave plenty of warnings about the increase. I was born in 1965 and knew in 1995 as it was all over the tv news that it would be rising over the next 20 years. If I knew then these women would also have known then and stop whingeing now about their awful plight. Most of them sound like fairly well to do women anyway like this woman, an ex headmistress for crying out loud, hardly on the breadline
@@yvonnelygo681Without any warning? We’ve known this was happening for 30 years! It’s the extra shift from 65 to 66 that woke up some people…this has been a total non story from the start. Guess what? Nearly everyone currently working will retire at 67 or 68, with much less notice!
@@leftmodernist5210you don't talk sense. There's ample notice NOW
Don’t help him. He’s an American. 😂😂
For all those that voted for labour... How does that buyers remorse feel now?
No remorse here. This is a great decision.
Why would all theses woman tell lies and campaign for all these years. !
The WASPIs are going to sting Keir Starmer now ! 😂🐝
I CAME HERE IN 2007 WITH NO ENGLISH AND I KNOW WHEN THE RETIREMENT AGE IS…IS THIS A REAL CONVERSATION??? MUST BE…IM MEAN IT MUST BE SATIRE
Women that worked an extra 6 years, are owed, 6 x £9.500, = £ 57.000. Not £ 10.000. This is owed to those that worked the, 30 years!
Waspi women are not owed a penny. It is men who were discriminated against by the female privilege of a pension at 60. Waspi women are losing their sexist privilege . I kept up to date and knew it so all these women could have learned this. Now men should get extra pension for the real discrimination they faced.
No to keeping female privilege.
Yes to real equality.
While men who worked 5 years longer from the introduction of the state pension always lost 5 years pension!
@@ronaldtrott5728 so I am owed 40k for the 2 years extra my wife and I now have to work ?
I haven't been officially told about the increase to 68. What am I owed? Nothing because I keep abreast of current affairs.
Store grifting and expecting handouts. Get grafting and take responsibility.
Most of the btl commentators on here have not a clue about the history of the UK from the post war to the present day. Utterly ignorant. There were very good reasons for women being allowed to retire at 60. Not difficult to find out why. This lady's right: 30 years of contributions went up to 35 overnight, along with the pension age changes. Taken together, these ensured that women were unable to save for their pension, even if they knew, if they were in low-paid occupations without a works pension. Not all women werwe/are middle-class professionals.
Equal opportunities xx
And they voted labor 😅😅😅😅😅
Starzi really knows how to get the people on his side. Who are they going to ROB next ??
There are two reasonable ways of dealing with this issue. 1) Implement the Ombudsman findings in full. 2) Assess objectively on a case by case basis what each lady should be awarded. Option 3) of just saying no is the act of a stupid, incompetent and unjust government.
The ombudsman is optional so the government can ignore it.
@uanime1 True but adopting the Ombudsman recommendation would have been a just outcome. Providing no compensation whatsoever is unjust.
@@RPAGN
"True but adopting the Ombudsman recommendation would have been a just outcome."
Not just for the people who have to pay for women who ignored 30 years of pension information.
Option 4 - whinge that your lot lost the election.
Let me get my little violin out
Equality 😂😂😂😂😂
Boo hoo. Had to work longer like the men did.
I want compo...wah..wah..wah.
Sorry love your not having any tax payers money
Here is a tweet from Keir Starmer
23 November 2019
Justice to end 'historic injustice. WASPI - Women Against State Pension Inequality Campaign
Labour pledges £58bn to help women caught in pension trap. 'We owe debt of John McDonnell said that a "debt of honour to 3 million' honour"
Thankfully they came to their senses.
What as happened to Politicians falling on their Swords ! 💕
I am so glad I resigned from thee Labour party when Starmer reneged on the promises he made to get elected as leader.
60? Expecting 30 years drawing state pension?
Tories did not deal with the problem for 14 years so blame Labour for their failure.
First
Tough! Your money went on paying for illegal immigrants
We know that, some of yours also.
WASPI women now have an extra 5 years to plan for their retirement!!
The insufficient time to plan for retirement argument makes no sense!