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My 2019 Forester is the best, most versatile, most practical and well built car I have owned.
Msrp
The 19 and newer Forester’s are extremely high in reliability and customer satisfaction.
Add a K&N intake air filter and a Borla or FlowMaster exhaust and you’ll notice more hp, torque and mpg.
We do this on all of our vehicles.
I did it on our 11 Ford Ranger XLT super cab 4X4 with a 4.0L V6 and a 5spd automatic transmission.
Before those 2 modifications we were getting 19mpg on the freeway with the cruise set on 75mph. We now get 24-25 mpg.
Our Outback gained 3mpg and our Rav 4WD gained 2mpg.
Since the Socialist Biden administration is raping Americans at the gas pump, every little bit helps.
@@Doc1855 This is a prime example of your lack of knowledge, it’s not a USA problem it is a global issue. Your two time impeached buddy fucked Americans much more than you obviously care to think of, namely one is the tax that he screwed the middle class on. But as always a true Trumper always has a unfactual response
@@JR-lb4ng I don’t know everything, such as yourself.
I have a PhD in psychology and you, Sir would keep me employed for many years to come.
Enjoy your day
The best thing about our Subaru Forester 2020 are:
1. Bang for your buck even in Trim model (saftey package, engine, awd etc.)
2. Knowing this car is as safe as a Volvo in a crash (front, side or rear).
3. Interior space (head room too, if your tall), trunk size & fuel economy.
There is not a lot I can complain about.
If your all about being safe in a car crash, highly recommend this car.
Just bought a 2022 Forester a few months ago and it is the best car we’ve had. So sturdy, comfortable, and smooth. It’s way better than any other car we’ve had. Makes me want to trade in our other car for a Subaru as well.
We have a 2021 Forester Touring and have just over 17,500 miles on it. It has performed great. Like you said, the visibility is wonderful. It is a great car to go for a scenic drive. I find it is comfortable for my 6'4" frame -- even in the back seat I have plenty of room! The cargo area is spacious -- certainly enough for us and the seats fold down quickly just by pulling a switch in the rear cargo area. We have two spaniels and they love going for drives with us. So far, we have zero issues with this car and we look forward to enjoying it for years to come.
Kinda late, but i'm 6' 3"--can you lay down in the back with the seats laid flat? Thanks!
@@crimsonkeltic3522 No, don’t believe that would work for someone as tall as me. Probably an Outback or Ascent would be better for that.
@@harrahphotoman Hey. Late reply, but what mpg do you typically see on your forester?
@@a1sauce106 Sorry, I just saw your question. We average just over 30 mpg. We take back roads to work with a lot of 4-way stop intersections. I think we could average 32-33 mpg if we did more interstate driving.
I have had four foresters since 2000. I am going to order a 2024 and keep my 08 as a second car. the idea behind the Subaru is to keep it light and fuel economy, enjoyable ride. The traction in the snow is unbelievable. The fit and finish is is very nice. Do not need a turbo. Turbo have lag time and burn more fuel and cost more. The speed limit is the same.😃
@6:49 that's one dope videographer on a skateboard, as reflected on the rear painted door of the vehicle. great assessment and as always this channel is underrated. this dude knows his cars!
Just bought a 2022 because of reliability, comfort, and a bit extra ground clearance since our roads flood in Louisiana. Though I love it, I couldn't find one with the color and features I wanted. Light interior ( which I needed for Southern climates) is not available in their highest Touring trim, so I settled for a Limited. This means no memory seats (couldn't even order it), nor front camera for tight parking spots, which is only on the Wilderness (for off-roaders). Wilderness trims are piling up in Southern dealerships while the others are scarce. Their marketing is not attuned to the needs of an increasing number of suburban Americans who don't off-road and just want a well-equipped SUV and increasing live in Southern climates.
I’ve always like the Forester ☺️ I like the refresh and love the Wilderness trim 🫶🏾
I have a 2021 base model Forester that now has 32,000 miles. This car is far better than anything at this price has any right to be. Consistently get 30 MPG on the highway (I drive quite a bit faster than the speed limit) and it is comfortable even after five or six hours on the road,
I’d like a bigger touchscreen and a bit more volume from the stereo (sounds surprisingly good, just doesn’t get particularly loud), but otherwise I have no complaints whatsoever.
I have a 2019 Forester, and I love it to bits.
Extremely comfortable for me, (I am 6-4 240) it drives smooth, and has been extremely reliable (only niggle so far has been the battery for the start/stop function). It gets decent gas mileage for it's size. (I would have liked it to have a larger fuel tank).
It is quite capable in light off roading (I elected to purchase the undercarriage protection pack).
I highly recommend it. I was contemplating buying the Outback or the Forester, and I think that I would have been just as happy with the Outback (with the exception of it being more limited offroad).
Fellow tall person here. Got one too for the comfort. Enough was enough driving cars where my head hit the ceiling just to get better gas mileage. I’m 6’7” and fit very comfortably in the forester.
@@dmjrbulgeb3453 Here Here Fellow Tall person,-)
In AZ, the Forester is the go-to choice for senior citizens.
A Forester like any car, if looked after and treated with respect individually for its needs will last you a long long time without any issues.
Those physical knobs and buttons are one of the main reasons I chose the 2023 Forester over the Outback. I didn’t want an iPad mounted to the center of my dashboard 😅. The screen in my Limited is plenty big too. Very happy with my purchase.
Tyler still editing and putting out videos while in Italy! Reward this man for his dedication! 👏🏽
I’m glad that you talked about the oil consumption and the head gasket issue I did have to get rid of my 2013 Subaru outback because I did have a blown head gasket Subaru did not fix it but I understand I did have 228,000 miles on it but Subaru did fix my outback when I had the oil consumption issue let replace my small engine block and that was at 110,000 miles but I have a 2022 Subaru Forrester Limited so far I love it when I picked it up at the dealership at 12 miles on it it’s a great highway car. I feel very comfortable and confident when I drive it on the road hopefully this will be another long-term car that I can keep for the next 10+ years
You must really like Subaru, even with your unfortunate history with the Outback. What made you go with Forester this time vs. Outback?
For some bizarre reason, I still like the stationwagon'ish look of the Outback - I'm sure it was pretty comfy on long road trips.
@@pleco101
I like the new style of the Subaru Forster and the seats are pretty comfortable in the new one and yes my old outback was very comfortable ride when I would take road trips in it but the Forrester seems to be real comfortable on the road Plus it gives me better gas mileage and I like the way the seat position are in the Forester compared to the Outback also I’m hoping to get more miles out of my new car compared to my outback
I Love the Red exterior. It will look great with the brown leather interior on the Touring model.
I like that it fits a thick posterior!
Thank you for being one of very few reviewers to actually tackle the reliability issues of the cars you review. I am very much a DIY mechanic and it's nice to know serviceability too.
I agree the forester is a good car to drive I love my 2020
I appreciate your thoughtful approach and candor. Glad to subscribe to your channel as I plan to buy a new vehicle in the next six months and you really know what you're talking about which instills trust. Thank you.
If the forester came with the turbo like the outback and a regular gear box I would have Likely bought this over my Audi Q5. Just having that turbo response and a proper gear shift is important to me. I bet it is for a lot of people considering this car.
Outback turbo sucks, I wish 2.5 with electric motor for forester, CVT with turbo😂 feel nothing
Good question .Why no turbo?
@@Totosubie There is NOTHING wrong with the Outback turbo. You're a liar when you say "CVT with turbo feel nothing. You've never driven one.
Subarus are amazing vehicles that all wheel drive system does exactly what they say it's going to do I have a 2015 Subaru Impreza I've never had a problem with it just keep up with your maintenance that's all you have to do
The AWD systems that they used to use were far better and especially with a real transmission. Both my 2005 Ouback and 2011 Forester would squat down and go in a straight line through a mud filled trail. Our new ones do more fish tailing.
A 2020 OB XT Onyx...35K and still a lot of fun...runs with all but the fastest....thanks.
Bingo: You mentioned 'predicted reliability'. At this stage in life, that's what I'm seeking. As much as I'd prefer the Forester over the others, I'd really have buyer's regret if it was going to be a pain in the arse.
I'm sure the Rav4 awd system with snow tires would work well enough for my needs. I'm not exactly a guy to go offroading in the winter, on steep hills.
The reliability rants on the internet are overblown. I'm on my 2nd Subaru and both have been flawless. Not to mention the Forester is more capable with better AWD than anything else in the segment. It's your money, but I'd buy a Forester over a Rav4 any day.
If the forester kept the 2.0l turbo, I would have bought it over the cx 5 turbo, so far the cx 5 turbo is all I can ask for.
The Forester remains the undisputed king in this class for versatility without being pretentious like the German brands.
We have a 2009 we bought new and I have changed the oil every 3,000 miles since new and never had a problem. The Forester has a little over 80,000 miles on her. The wife loves her and she’s e great in the snow and ice. A few months ago the throttle body got clogged and I believe I caused it. I had some old gas in my lawnmower can that I dumped in the tank. I think there was some dirt in the can that caused my problem. Looking hard right now at a 2023 Forester, just trying to get a few more safety features for the wife’s car.
I appreciate you talking about the oil consumption issue which I have going on now in my 2011 Forester which started last year so w wet few weeks I check the oil and add more. I’ve been using an oil stabilizer which helps. In my first attempt to get Subaru to fix this they said no but the car repair place I take it to has encouraged me to try again. It has about 112,000 miles on it.
How often do you have to add oil to your Forester? Do you keep a large container of oil in your vehicle just in case you need to top it up?
Oil consumption really isn't an issue on newer Subarus. They changed the piston rings that were causing the problem years ago. I'm sick of every reviewer constantly bringing up sh*t that was resolved years ago just because everyone else on youtube is saying it.
@@dlg5485 which newer models? 2018+ or 2019+ ?
@@Natravelau According to my research, the piston rings were redesigned back in 2015 or so and that should have fixed the problem. I have a 2017 Impreza Sport that does not consume excessive amounts of oil. That said, most modern engines that use light weight 0w20 and 0w16 oils will consume some oil because the oil is so thin (to maximize fuel economy), but it shouldn't be any more than 1 qt over the change interval. That much is considered normal. Any Subaru built in 2018 or later should be fine. However, if you are considering purchasing any used vehicle, it's always recommended to have it inspected by a trusted mechanic before buying, just to be sure it's good.
@@dlg5485 i was looking at suburu forester 2016 2.5i-S from a dealer but unsure if worth getting. I actually don’t know any “trusted” mechanic whom would be able to do that for me prior to buying
How is Tyler not more popular? Keep it up! Still, my favorite review is of the Subaru WRX.
Thank you!
So glad to get rid of my forester when the warranty was up. The only car that made everyone carsick on mountain roads, made my arse hurt from uncomfortable seats interior plastic cracking and they never fixed the Bluetooth failure. When the front end made ticking noises it was time to go. My wife still makes fun of the rubber band gear drive.
That's funny. MANY models of different brands use a similar "rubber band gear drive." Guess what, the much ballyhooed electric/gas hybrids utilize CVTs....apparently, standard automatic transmissions won't work with the electric/gas hybrids.
Props to the skateboarder camera dude 👍🏻
Good to see a small channel that's is so professional and as compelling on car info as Realistic, Tyler you do have another excellent review.
BTW I like the easy to clean rubberized cargo area of the Forrester seems so much more practical than the carpeted area on so many competitors.
That's a big plus to them, although technically an accessory!
DeWayne H, a "big channel" is likely a sign of an incompetent chatterbox, a dealership beggar that jumps at EVERY new car to make more $$$ on UA-cam.
Great , practical review, thanks for a to the point , no time wasted article. I’ll be back.
Which years Forester do not have display screens, nor safety alert features, but is simple and works well.
I just bought mine 2 months ago. Got the 2022 X Sport oceania version(NZ). Love it!! There is always something going on while you driving. Love the Eyesight Function. No premium Harman Kardon sound system😢 Im a Subaru Fan. Use to be Mazda( Well still sort of am), but i understand now why people love Scoobies so much. Yes its not the fastest thing ever, but whats the use of a turbo in a country where the top speed on the motorways are a 100km🤷♂️. Anyways love the car. As for reliability….i just dont know, but so far so good. But with so much tech, somethings bound to go wrong some way or some how.
Thanks, have my wilderness for a week and 61 miles so far
Good review, can use some more objectivity though. Hybrids are hard to get and used ones are highly overpriced, Rav4 Prime is one example. Electric cars have a long way to go, no pun intended, when it comes to their average range at best. Value for money is second to non, for those of us who value practicality over fanciness, this is the car. Can’t wait for my car to arrive.
I changed spark plugs in Subaru once, never again.
It ain't fun from what I've heard
Did this on my 2018 FXT, I am a very good mechanic and this took me 1.5 hours. Driver side is tight , passenger went faster more room.
Wait! So the spark plug bay isn't under the hood?
@@sir.confident You've got an entire 1-1.5" to work in between valve covers & the engine rails. Better have a good mix of short extensions & swivel fittings. Even then (2016 Forester, for example), some plugs can be a real pain. Some folks actually loosen up engine mounting bolts & LIFT the engine a bit to get to the troublesome plug.
Market adjustments on Subaru and Toyota products in my area have punched folks towards Mazda. I do like the new CX50. The Meridian trim coming at the end of the year is the one I would get!
Check the gas mileage on that Mazda. Don't go by the epa numbers. Ask the owners.
@@johnsheehy2176 yeah I drove them. Didn’t like the cx50. Cx5 better but 24 mpg? My tundra gets that.
Yes, I’ve heard the CX50 has horrible mileage, per other drivers. It’s a beautiful car, but terrible fuel economy ranging from 18 -23 mpg
I’m waiting to see if Subaru will start offering a non plug-in hybrid across the board.
We Love my wife’s Outback as her commuter car and our road car.
If Subaru has a hybrid Forester when my Rav wears out, then I’ll replace it with a Forester Touring. If it’s not available in a hybrid then I’ll buy a Toyota Venza.
It should be noted that we did look at a Venza, Rav and Outback before buying our Subie.
We LOVED the Venza. Our insurance premium would have increased by $1K per year. $700 more per year for the Rav and $300 more for the Outback.
We did NOT like the Rav at all.
The rear view in the Venza and the Rav was horrible. The Subaru has awesome 360 degrees of view and the eyesight is great as well, but the eyesight doesn’t work at all while driving when it’s snowing.
Our Outback is a bit sluggish 2.5L 182hp, but ultimately it does ok. The real fuel economy SUCKS. Subaru says it’ll get 33mpg, but I suppose it would going down a steep hill with a strong tail wind.
One time we got 30mpg but we usually get 27-29mpg on the freeway with the cruise set on 75mph.
My Rav 4WD Limited with a 3.5 V6 with 269hp has a ton of acceleration and we still get 26mpg . Though our Rav has all the bells and whistles, our Outback is more comfortable, but it is a larger car.
‘Battery draining’- tell me. Three separate instances in my 2017. The car is just suddenly dead. And if you leave a dome light on…
Omg 😱 the black socks!
🥶🥶
Great review!
I would love to buy a Forester (it's on my list of choices for my next purchase) when they put an engine in it that will allow you to pass another car on a 2-lane road without getting run over... at least have an option for a more powerful engine.... they used to have a turbo available on a very select model but they no longer even have that... in fact, when will they offer a hybrid in this model?
The engine is plenty for passing. I don’t have an issue at all. Don’t let the small engine fool you.
This car is not about the speed imo.
It's transmission is great, and the kickdown function works well for overtaking.
If you want a faster mid size suv, this is not the car for you, unless you modify it.
It is all about comfort and reliability.
As others have said, she gets the job done. Unless you live in a mountainous area, this works for a small suv.
@@doronstauber7285 There are other cars in the same class that do offer far more power... Mazda CX5 and CX50, the Nissan Rogue, the Jeep Cherokee, and others. The Forester is, for me and many others underpowered, they have in the past offered a 2.0L Turbo in a specialized version of the Forester but stopped even offering that.
@@Realistick For some it may get the job done power-wise but for others, it does not... why not offer an alternative like other manufacturers?
sexy man talking smartly about a new Subie = exactly what I needed today
🌈 be proud!
Did I tap on this video bc I’m on the market for a new car or bc I saw the host? 😅🤭
Smart, cute and informative 👌 thank you 😊
You’re quite welcome beautiful! 😍
2.5 is actually quite a performer, CVT is not terrible but I hate it, seats are terrible on long drives.
knee room for 6 foot + drivers suck.
Head room leg room shoulder room are excellent, if thier was a column shifter in here, I could live here 24/7
Definitely run dedicated winter tires, all seasons will kill you, traction control, x mode work night and day with dedicated winters.
It's also really good on gas, rides like it's on silk.
I have a love hate relationship with the wifes 2019 Forster.
I’m 6’7 and think knee room is excellent. My knees don’t touch the dash or the steering wheel. I am coming from a Cadillac CTS though and had 3 coupes before that. I love this forester. I also think the seats are quite comfortable and the lumbar support is in the right spot. I can finally sit proper, nice and tall because I don’t have to slouch anymore because my head doesn’t hit the ceiling
6:48 nice reflection of the videographer
I loved it! No money spared!
Haha maybe I was just trying to flex my longboard skills
How's the long term reliability stack up compared to Toyota?
Pretty good. Toyota isn't quite the vaunted reliability king that it once was, BTW, and we've owned five of them over the years.
The Forester is for tall people. I think you should emphasize that difference. The shorts just don't see the difference. Ok ... so I am OLD so I have to drive like an old man. I live in Montana so MOST of my driving is hi way as my grocery is 50 miles. I drive at 65 mph and get 36 mpg. That is with the up and down hills here in Montana. I love my 2021 Forester Limited and am looking for a 2023.
“Outside of changing spark plugs” bingo… Changing those is such a pain on a Subaru since the plug line up about perfectly with the frame rails. I’ve done them a couple times on previous Subaru’s I’ve owned and it’s my least favorite bit of maintenance.
Subaru should at least put back the 2.5 turbo back into the forester, + borrow the 8 speed automatic from toyota, it would make it a perfect car. BUT wait, Rav4 sales number will drop.
It could happen in the next generation, but I'd think that Subaru would 'borrow' the new Toyota CVT IF Toyota's version performs well over time.
6:51 nice skateboarding! haha!
Good review.
Oil changes are a breeze in the new subaru..
Worse than Benz?
Exactly. If it’s like my 2014 Forester, it consumes a quart every 1000 miles. It’s always has fresh oil and all I had to do is change the filter occasionally.
1. Great, informative review. 2. Get rid of the shoes :)
I got a 2014. It is not the cheapest to maintain and it has its issues after 100k. Lucky I am handy and fix the issues myself.
Considering I'm not exactly a handy guy with cars - would you recommend the Forester or Rav4, or something else?
@@pleco101 yes I would recommend a rav4. Make sure you do research and also join the Facebook car groups. You learn a lot about cars that way as well.
I had an Outback with turbo. Never again!
I was loving this model until I saw the gas mileage. I'd probably go with the regular model.
I have an Outback with the turbo - EXCELLENT vehicle. Gas mileage is just fine, especially for a 3900lb AWD vehicle.
We need the XT back please Subaru!!!
I like Foresters.
Having owned a 2010 Forester, I will not buy another Subaru. Head gaskets at 185,000kms, Catalytic converter 225,000km, front o2 sensor 240,000kms, and rust. Local dealership is terrible and want to perform all sorts of unnecessary maintenance at about $140 an hour. No thank-you. I'll stick with my Honda and Toyotas that haven't given me any grief over their lifespan. 2004 Honda at 360,000km with original exhaust, little body rust, and no failed sensors....tires, batteries, brakes, and oil changes.
Depending on the year, CRVs and Rav4s are also very problematic and I'm speaking from personal experience. Most consistent is the mazda cx5 from my research.
I would probably get one of it was offered in 6 speed manual transmission (3 pedals and true manual transmission)...
I wish they had the turbo option. How was cabin noise and suspension? Those where two major problems for me.
I had no issues with either in this generation, it's more noisy and firm than the outback but i still found it to be comfy and competitive. if you want more details on the car. I made a full review and it's linked in the description.
i love the mean looking headlights
Would you pick a 2023 crosstrek or a 2023 base model forester?? Do you think the crosstrek is more reliable since it hasn’t been refreshed ?
I don’t think it will make a difference reliability-wise, I’d get a Crosstrek for the reasons I talked about in the conclusion.
The only thing i really dont like on this car is the seats... no matter what setting you choose .. its not comfortable
Has anyone done a lot of towing with one? What’s it like?
Do the new Subarus have headlights that burn out every two years or have they fixed that?
Never even heard of that one and I worked at a Subaru dealership for nearly 4 years so I'm going to say it's probably not a notable issue.
@@Realistick Agreed. I think 'Stan' is a Subie hater troll, and they're all over UA-cam spreading BS.
Hi, do you know when is this getting redesigned?
Have been wanting to upgrade my 2014 forester XT... But no turbo model = no buy... I think my only option will be a bmw X3 or maybe even a GLC mercedes, hate the way mazdas drive. Do not want a hybrid. And will never buy american unless its a V8 or Diesel L6. So im stuck, any ideas?
Why bother upgrading a '14 Forester? Is it giving you trouble? I would probably have any mechanical issues repaired and keep it forever.
@@harrahphotoman not issues at all, just want the FA24 and new gen CVTs, the FA24 because of the port + direct injection, also more power potential. And the new CVT on the WRX is extremely fast.
Oil consumption really isn't an issue on newer Subarus. They changed the piston rings that were causing the problem years ago. I'm sick of every reviewer constantly bringing up sh*t that was resolved years ago just because everyone else on youtube is saying it.
6:28
Pay attention as I do quite a bit of research for these and it feels wasted when i get comments like this.
@@Realistick I heard your 'disclaimer' my point is that these issues are OLD news and don't need to be mentioned in every damn Subaru review. It's time to move on.
@@dlg5485 Way more than a disclaimer. I would LOVE to do that. But every time I don't (and occasionally when I do), I get endless comments like "my 2014 forester burned a gallon of oil every 5 miles. Subaru's are trash" Part of a review is addressing concerns because not everyone is well researched and there are a ton of Subie haters spreading bs.
@@Realistick A fair and honest comment, especially about the Subie haters. Some of them on UA-cam are truly emotionally disturbed, and one in particular was thrown off because of their incessant BS trolling of every single Subaru-related video with the same BS story. Subaru's Corporate Legal department was not amused....
Great review! Thanks for addressing the previous issues. I'm a new wilderness owner and appreciate videos like these. Gives me more piece of mind
why would you steer someone to a _non-hybrid_ RAV4?
Yeah, I thought Toyota’s hybrid system was pretty solid.
Id only advise not to get the hybrid if reliability is your highest priority. I do like the hybrid but lately in northern climates they have been having a huge wiring harness corrosion problem that costs in excess of 4k. It only has recently shown itself and toyota usually refuses tp fix it under the battery warranty. Additionally the batteries typically konk out at 12 years. If you want simple dependability, id still advise just the standard rav4
@@Realistick Same problem in Canada with the cable of the hybrid system 2019-2021. There is class action lawsuit against Toyota in Canada.
They stopped improvising the engine from 2018..way underpowered Ina highway....CR V has more engine power......dang....I sold mine and got a cx5 a year ago.
Looked at this and the Outback and was unimpressed. Sad because I've owned several Subarus in the past.
Interior was done by fisher-price, it was loud and the transmission shift's like a lawn tractor.
Driving was otherwise fine but not impressive.
She does sound like some sort of cleaning device, not for the luxury minded!
@@Realistick Subaru drivers aren't exactly high maintenance drivers looking for a "look at me" car anyway. I just got back from a road trip up Hwy 395, took it on some gravely/rocky roads, and then up into the High Sierras. I didn't notice any of this extensive noise output people complain about. Was a comfortable ride actually. Even climbing into 8,000+ altitudes.
@@trojanmoondoggie4582 I don't think it is extensively noisy, in fact I stand by saying it's competitive in the class there. But the Outback is what I was comparing it to in my earlier comment. That is noticeably more quiet and a little more posh than the Forester. The Outback is better IF you want a more premium experience. The Forester is better if you want a more utility focused suv that's still comfy and very easy to live with!
i like to buy a new one but that cvt turns me away
How tall is this guy? He dwarfs the Forester, and I've stood next to one, is he 6'6"? Dying to get one, though, glad it gets such high marks.
he mentions in some of his videos that he's like 6'4
Outside of engine noise under acceleration, in what ways is the Forester more noisy than the outback? A lot more noisy?
I believe it's mostly the coarseness of the engine in general. On the Outback you can get the turbo which i think is less raucous.
More road noise from less insulation. It's not offensive in the Forester and very much class competitive but the Outback is exceptionally quiet for the money!
Aren’t the front seats the same across across the Forester and Outback too?
@@mattmc7933 No, the Forester is still comfy but there's a little better support all around for me in the Outback and the driving position is more carlike which helps further.
The Ascent is far more quiet and comfortable. You should try that first.
Which do you like better for 95% of the time in town or highway, the Forester or Outback?
Outback is always going to win if we're talking about road comfort and refinement, whether it's city or highway. The visibility and length is what would make me more inclined go Forester for the City. Outback for the highway hands down!
@@Realistick Thank you. A follow-up question, which has a wider seat pan?
@@Its_Me0000 haven't measured it but I would say it's similar. The Forester just has a little less bolstering
I would… but it doesn’t have ventilated seats, so I’m going with a Hyundai Santa Fe.
HAHAHAHA - good luck with THAT burning bush.
Careful Hyundai and Kia have security issues with their doors not locking or easily accessible.
How widespread do you think the windshield cracking and battery draining issues are?
No more of a problem than any other contemporary vehicle.
Cracking puts me off buying a Subaru.
Appreciate if anybody tells me the reliability of its CVT transmission specifically in the models after year 2018
I haven’t heard anything bad either so I’m crossing my fingers because I am going to go look at one on Tuesday 🤞🏼
Just fine.
I can’t justify buying a new vehicle. My 19 Forester Touring has only 4,700 original miles
compass trailhawk beats this all day everyday
The Jeep Compass Trailhawk is the biggest, overpriced piece of unreliable crap on the market today, and that is based upon numerous automotive reviews. The Compass and the Forester are two different types of vehicles, but you knew that already....
@@eskieman3948 nope, don't know what you are talking about, but if you've driven both then you'd be shamed of what you just commented.
older foresters are still better imo
Older everything is better. LOL
@@harrahphotoman So true. My 1993 corolla beater is at 300k miles and still going strong
Subaru Crosstrek next? ;) Haha
I rank the Foster #2 in compact crossover category after the Outback being #1, with the new Kia Sportage #3.
We can all sleep tonight now that we know that 😉
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Lots of car in the Forester. But noisy, busy engine and cvt is too obvious. Comfort and ride not supple enough for older people looking for easy-access vehicle and safety. 50 HP more would be great!
Subaru Forester is probably the best compact crossover for older people due to it's easy access, comfortable ride, rather quiet engine and great visibility.
@@cruiseadmiral
Beg to differ greatly on ride and quiet engine. Pluses are elsewhere. Another minus for me is poor mileage.
If only it borrowed Toyota's eight-speed transmission and D-4S port/direct fueling system, the Forester would be #1 on my list. I just don't trust that CVT to go 200K miles, nor do I trust the DI-only fueling system not to gunk up the valves relatively early in the engine's life. Knowing how expensive that CVT is to replace, and that it almost certainly will need replacing, it pretty much kills any realistick (
Yeah, I'd have to say we share the same mindset. I'm a long-term holder of vehicles. I have a 15-year old Accord and willing to drive it likely 2 more years. Afterwards I'd like to try an SUV, but longevity & reliability ($$) is primary importance. The Rav4 seems more capable than the CRV but who knows. I'm warry of Honda with their little displacement turbo engines, CVTs and/or oil dilution issues. It seems everywhere you look, the lesser evil must be determined in these vehicles lol...
"Those with wide hips"
Are they going to make a hybrid forester?
Eventually, I am sure, I wouldn't bet on it for this generation.
@@Realistick They already make them, just not in North America.
@@jamesdunphy2696 didn't know that, I still would doubt they'd bring it to the states until the next gen. They barely try to move the Crosstrek hybrid.
How's the head gasket issue?
6:18
Subaru has been CLAIMING to have resolved it since the early to mid 2000's. Not true, of course. Of our first 6 Subies, we got stuck paying for HG repairs on 4 of them. The HG on my 2013 Forester is ok so far, but it consumes 1 qt oil every 750 miles (despite proper oil changes with synthetic oil). I have zero faith now in Subaru.
@@jeffjohnson6252 oil consumption for that model year was typically a different issue (as i explain in the video). Since Subarus are so popular, you can look at the number of complaints and there was a steep drop off in headgasket failures after 08 or 09. The design makes them more susceptible and I'm sure that means really high mileage cars will run into those problems. But most cars also run into a big issue after 200k.
Please respond!!!!!!
I need help in pricing a new 2022 car
The vehicle is fairly popular the brand is Mazda
The sticker is around 34k msrp
I don’t know what to offer
Five years ago a person could offer 30k for 34k sticker price and get that price
Help me
Do I have to pay sticker because they usually just have a few available each week
Tyvm
If you can find it for sticker, take it! The only cars I wouldn't pay sticker for right now would be cars that have historically poor resale value. Try to find another dealer if they want over sticker (most are doing this right now in my area). Understand, you pay more for a car now, but the value of used cars has gone up too.
@@Realistick thx
I feel foolish paying more than sticker when I’ve bought about 8 vehicles in the past for about 3k to 5k below msrp
What’s actual mpg? From you consumers, I might buy a new one.
Check out the forums for that one!
it needs a v6
I have two family members with Subarus, and both have been money pits. I think people are better off with a RAV4, Tucson, CRV, or CX-5
My sister and brother have Rav4s, also have oil consumption and transmission problems. Depends on the year.
@@Realistick Damn - that's discouraging to hear about trans. problems with their Toyotas. I don't even know if it matters to ask what year your sibling's RAV4's are, because transmission issues may not show for some time.
@@pleco101 it's a 2016, he also had rear coupling problems too, but that failed under warranty. It's not a super consistent problem but it's not unheard of, the camry had more problems with the trans
I had 2019 rave4s and had oil & transmission problems. Yeap. It depends on the model, year, type...
CX 5 far better than this.
A CX-5 is a vastly overrate loser of a boring car. And try following a Forester down a a forest trail with your "far better" CX-5. FAIL.
Forester looks better / just to slow
Outback looks ugly with to much cladding / better engine with the turbo
Sadly the Forester is behind the pack now in terms of external styling. It has many things which are appealing like the great visibility, it's all wheel drive system and quite spacious inside but it is now in the latter years of it's life cycle and starting to show it's age externally. Let's hope the new model has a little external "wow" factor while holding onto the things it beats the competition on.
Agree! Hope they abandon the silly and ugly ”space ship” look. Like its designed for 5-year olds. Back to basic simple geometry. Look at the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 series, timeless classy design!
I agree. It looks old and dated just like the depressing grey or death black interior colors
Modern or classic...no they make ugly ones.
They should look at the competition, not to imitate them, but to look different and better.
Take a black Forester Sport and put it next to ANY competitor of your choice. The picture will tell you a lot!
I may be one of only a few, but I prefer the conservative styling of the Forester over the competitors. The swooping lines and severely-sloped back gates all look the same and also limit how much cargo you can load (without breaking the sloped back windows). So, for me, at least, the styling is just fine.
I think for the price Mitsubishi Outlander 2022 is best overall
The only CVT I trust is Subaru. Mitsubishi/Nissan/Renault CVT is the first in line to exclude from the shopping list. And the outlook of the Outlander IMO is dreadfully awful. :)
I like the new outlander too, I've really been trying to get ahold of one! The Renault nissan alliance is a little concerning to me but Mitsubishi tunes everything vastly different from nissan and has used jatco trans in the past with far fewer issues than Nissan. Fingers crossed on the new one.