StarGate STARSHIPS dimensions
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- A comparison of StarGate ships, are not all ships, only the most important.
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Just a look at these and anyone who's seen the series can tell they are ALL out of scale.
All of these models are wrong sizes.
agreed
Thorns_ I was pretty sure these were all wrong, Atlantis is bigger than the Aurora by a bit more than 250M
And they all way smaller than old man
How so
I believe the Daedalus was about 210m and the Hatak was about 1500m. Atlantis was at least 11km though probably closer to 30km. The Baliskner was 2500m and the O'Neill class was 3km.
Al'kesh should be larger than a Death Glider.
and the teltak should be larger than an f302
And the F-302 should be smaller as well as the BC-304
As cool as the video is. An Aurora class warship isn’t bigger then Atlantis right?
don't look at the model size...actually READ the length thats written next to it...
The Aurora class of ship varied in size as I understand it. The Orion for instance was smaller than the Aurora
Normally I would let this slide, but some of the size errors are so massive that I had to say something...The size numbers used here MIGHT be accurate according to the wiki, but going off of crew size, purpose, and visual size comparison, I would say 70% of the ships are incorrect, 20% of them by entire orders of magnitude. Keep in mind that this is done by memory based off visual size relationships as shown in the series. I could have some of it wrong.
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The X-301, X-302, Death Glider, Wraith Dart, and Puddle Jumper are all about the same size. The Dart is a single person craft, and all others save the Puddle Jumper are 2-person craft. The Jumper is a transport design rather than a fighter and as such can carry a max of 12 people.
The relative dimensions will vary somewhat, since the Dart has a long nose, while the other fighters all have excessively wide wingspans, and the Puddle Jumper has extreme miniaturization and is not a fighter which explains it's high troop load for about the same size.
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Discounting the flagships of Apophis and Anubis, the Ori Mothership absolutely dominates every other vessel in SG-1 based on size and judging just from visual comparisons in the series. Also, the Ori vessels carry crews of hundreds, while Asguard vessels (if I understand correctly) have a crew of exactly 1. An Ori ship is at least 4 times the size of an O'Neil, rather than the other way around as shown in the video.
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I would estimate that the relationship between the X-304 and Atlantis is about right, since an X-304 lands on Atlantis at least once. However, a Traveler ship, the X-304, and the Lantean Aurora Class are all close to the same width, thus making the Aurora significantly longer because of the length:width ratio of the vessel. I would estimate that the length of an Aurora is about 60% of the radius of Atlantis based on the relative scaling. Also, Atlantis is a civilian city-ship that houses thousands of people and requires 3 ZPMs to operate at full capacity, while an Aurora is a warship with a crew of maybe a couple hundred and generally did not operate on any ZPMs.
Also, a standard wraith Hive Ship was maybe twice the length of an Aurora, making it's size maybe 30% larger than the radius of Atlantis (or about 65% of the diameter) or smaller. The only Hive vessel that could be this large is the Super Hive from the end of the series that was powered by 2 or 3 ZPMs, which I suspect was a max of twice the diameter of Atlantis, not more than three times.
looked it up on wiki, this isnt wiki's fault, he just fucked up somehow, i mean the sizes are listed a google search away or in a spacedock video, and yet hes still wrong, HOW.
Trek Yards did good overviews of several Stargate vessels. There they pretty conclusively prove that the dimensions published for many of them are actually too small to be in proper scale. They got their hands on authentic CG models used in the shows and came up with their own numbers.
Well it would help his calculations if he didn't several times turn _feet_ into _metres_ .
Agree with pretty much everything. One minor correction though... the Asgard ships normally have a full crew (hundreds?), though are able to run on a limited crew as small as 1 person in an emergency (or due to SFX costs, especially early in SG-1's run). Ex. when the Beliskner was infested w/ the Replicators and Thor was running the ship, he explicitly told SG-1 he had beamed the rest of the crew off to save them and stayed behind to destroy the outbound transporters so the Replicators couldn't easily get off the ship and infest Earth.
I might be misremembering, but Ori motherships should be about the same width as a 304. And I'm basing this on the fact that, in The Ark of Truth, the Oddysey went through the supergate and the 304 bays nearly touched the edges.
No mention of Earth's "formidable crafts", the shuttles...
That is bs. Clearly we hid our real power at that time.
@@BlackDiamond2718 Plot twist, SG1 had a freaking DEATH STAR as the moon, but they couldn't power it up...
@@Oceanic2409 well zpms are hard to find
@@BlackDiamond2718 true
Actually, looking at this, your scales are way off. Prometheus should be able to house a 302.
several
Eight, to be exact.
you do realize that they are only showing the outline of the ship and showing the length only right?
@Easliy Displeased yes they weren't to be exact replicas or show actual size.
@Easliy Displeased Then don't watch it..simple.
I like how the two-man fighter-interceptor F-302 class ships are somehow very comparable in size to the multi-deck Prometheus mothership that can carry 8 of them with a crew of over 100 people... Something tells me the scales are a bit off here...
Just the comparison between F302 and Goa´uld Tel´tak are off. Tel´tak is a cargo ship, where 2 people can sit next to each other in the cockpit, has large cargo hold and plenty of space... i´d guess you could theoretically put multiple F302´s inside and there will still be some space remaining.
Next one, Al´kesh. And so on...
Or the Anubis mothership with the city of Atlantis... Stargate screenwriters seemed to always struggle with scaling, be it in terms of size, distance or time.
Deathglider is 28 feet, not meters. And while the technical size of the Daedalus is wrong as it's listed as being approximately 200m, this size is probably more accurate given the shown size of the hanger bays in the Atlantis series and their relative size compared to the rest of the ship in outward appearance.
...so an F-302 can't fit in the Prometheus's fighter bays? I think theses measurements are off...
Though this video is super wrong, the CGI model of Prometheus was not thought of properly. We never see F302's with Prometheus, the hangar bay would house 2-3 at most. I think Mallozzi admitted such
Atlantis is not just 3.7km long, its a freaking city. It even has built in transporters to help you get around, it's that large. And it's definetely larger than an Aroura class.
its not that atlantis is small, simply aurora class is a big battleship designed to fight hives ships, no wonder its big as well. though i belive hive ships arent 11km but 12 times bc 304 which shouldnt be as big as 600m but even if it was it would still put hive ship at 7km and not 11km
you are correct every single number in this video is extremely off, like by a factor of 3 in some cases, bc-304 is not 600 meters, its 200, Atlantis is around the size of an Aurora, but that size never fit and its true size is never given on its wiki page, i found 4000 meters in a spcedock video, but its a city meant to represent one of the greatest technological feats in 4 galaxys which can fly and house thousands... i dont think ive ever actually seen its specific size listed in cannon, so it either 4000-10000 meters, i have no idea, i got the 10000 as in one episode the Deadalus lands on the city and the Deadalus is 200 meters and it seems to be around 50 times smaller then the city, so 50 times 200 equals 10000. Go ahead look at the Atlantis City Ship's wiki, no size. Spacedock video says 4000 meters, i dont believe it, never seen it listed in cannon and its size makes no sense for a race's capital, this race having the power to ascend to higher planes of existence and in some cases manipulate stars... their greatest achievement would be a little more than 4000 meters if they could regularly build ships of a comparably similar size.
Its said its the size of Manhattan, Manhattan is 22 miles, 22 miles to kilometers... 30 kilometers, they do say that its the citys internal size however, so cut that in half then to account for that info, still around 10-15 kilometers.
Apparently Atlantis is the size of Manhattan and Manhattan has a width of 3.7km however the length is 21.6km
Plus, the Daedalus class ships, and probably the mid-sized Lantean/Asuran ships, can actually land on at least one of the piers. The ZPM powered Hive from the finale was considerably larger than a standard Hive and at least 8x the size of Atlantis itself. Both should be taken into account for size comparisons.
You got some of measurements off. The Death glider is a two man fighter and smaller than Tel'tak a cargo ship and Ori mothership was twice the size of the O'Nell
PS Its great to seeing Starships size comparison videos and video is well done it look good the measurements are just off
+ THE CITY SHIP (AKA ATLANTIS IS AS BIG AS THE MANHATAN ISLAND)
Correction, its the same internal mass as Manhattan, not as long/wide or tall.
you're telling me an aurora battleship, is almost the exact same size as ATLANTIS, the city that is as big as Manhatten?
A city that several of them landed on as well
I'm not sure about the accuracy of the sizes, but I'm impressed by your 3D modeling and video making skills! Thanks for making and sharing this video.
Seeing some of these comments makes me feel better about the fact that these sizes seem all wrong.
good video, but Anubis mothership is theorically smaller than Atlantis City
This is all wrong.
You should use the scale found on the original 3d models that Samual Cockings elaborated on Trekyards. IE Prometheus is 513 Meters long.
You scaled the F301,F302 and Deathglider incorrectly they have a wingspan of that not a length
Considering all of these are wrong sizes, I don't plan on watching any other of your videos. Trust factor = 0.
Edit: Also, how does this video have so many likes?
Not bad but some of those ships sizes seem wrong. But the ships I listed should be around this size.
BC-303 350 m
BC-304 700 m
O'niell 2.1 km
Wraith Cruiser 2.1 km
Anubis ship 4 km
Ori Warship 4.2 km
Ancient Warship 4.2 km
Atlantis 8.4 km
Wraith Hive 9 km
ZPM Hive approx 18km
bc-304 is around 225 meters, look it up, Atlantis, i dont know its true size, space dock say 4000 meters, the wiki never says, never hear it in cannon... id say 10km from eyeballing it. Large rough guess.
Nice collection, but the measurements are off - a Ha'tak for example is quite a lot larger than the Daedalus.
Pretty sure an aurora battleship can land on alantis
Wow, so many errors in ship sizes.
Cool, one of my favorite shows. Thanks for uploading!
based off of the proportions that all of us have seen in the series some of these models are seriously off.
I was going to bash this video for the poor size values used. But man it really was extraordinarily difficult to find all the ship sizes written out in plain text. I'd suggest searching on images instead and look for the ones with the various supergates included. Those have best chance to have ori ships correct.
2.3 miles seems small for Atlantis
The sizes are way out and you showed the Destiny herself, but called it a Seed Ship. The Destiny was 747m long.
And Tel'tak 30% smaller than the X302? X302 is the size of a normal fighter jet, just taller, meanwhile Tel'tak is a fucking cargo ship
How did the death glider get so big all of the sudden? They’re smaller than the 302?! And the 301 should be the same size since it’s a death glider (unless it’s a different type?) Strange!
And the Prometheus should be larger since it can carry half the number of 302s (at least after the side pods were refitted to carry 302s). The Prometheus is only slightly smaller than the Daedalus class.
How do you know size or scale
He doesn't
Dam the darts tiny compared to the F-302.
*EDIT* nevermind your scaling is way off
Funny, I thought Prometheus was larger since they could launch a bunch of F-302 fighters.
Ah confused Prometheus and Daedalus.
No, they both can.
All of this is so wrong, and by the way in the series the Destiny and Seedships are two different things
Wait, what? I always though Daedalus was only 250 mts, and the Wraith hive ship was only 3,000 mts. Was I wrong?
Saiyan0X nope most sizes are off too way off
The sizes in this video aren't even remotely accurate, nor are the size comparisons between ships. I.e the Deadalus easily managed to land on the Atlantis City Ship and looked like a puny fighter in comparison. Later, the Daedalus is shown in flight with an Aurora Class ship and the Aurora was only 2 or 3 times bigger - yet this video would have you believe the Aurora Class ships were a similar length as the city ships.
representation of aurora class ships size in sga was rather inconsistent, later on in the show you can see its actually quite a bit bigger. the battle for asuras is a good example.
And Destiny isn't 1000 mts long. It is 747mts in length with width 518 mts at wingtips.
The Daedalus or X-304 is actually about 700m long. Watch the Trekyards video on UA-cam, they've done a review about the Daedalus with the original cg model from Stargate Atlantis.
You have it is wrong
That's right
Puddle jumper 8m
F-302 8m
X-301 8m
Death glider 8m
Ori fighter 12m
Dart 14m
Tel'tac 20m
Al'kesh 50m
Traveler generational 100m
X-303 Prometheus 195m
Asuran cruiser 200m
Daniel Jackson 225m
Ra ship 260m
Daedalus class 300m
Wraith cruiser 320m
Lantean cruiser 400m
Ha'tak 600m
Ancient seedship 600m
Destiny 800m
Biliskner 1000m
Gedmeer teraformer 1100m
Replicator mothership 1240m
O'neill class 1400m
Aurora class 1500m
Apophis mothersip 1500m
Ori mothership 2500m
Anubis mothership 2700m
Wraith Hive ship 3300m
Atlantis 5000m
Tel'tak is certainly not smaller than death glider, also X-301 and death glider is basically the same ship, so they should be the same size.
Two of these I disagree with. Prometheus is actually about 500 meters long. And the Al'kesh is supposed to be about 70ish meters long. Aside from that I approve.
Wrong sizes and missing a ship or two
As a fellow computer animator the scale of these ships is quite easy to adjust.
It would literally take seconds per vessel to manipulate to the correct sizes.
Delete this video and rework the scaling. It won't take long...
Ah, the Tel'tak. The Goa'uld space van. :D
Dude the F302 can't even fit on the Prometheus and Daedalus landing bay!
Everybody else has already commented on how badly out of whack the numbers and visual scales are. But at the very least he couldn't get the Death Glider and X-301 proportionate to each other? The X-301 literally used to be a Death Glider, they should be the exact same size.
At least the models looked cool. Except there seemed to be something... off about the Ori mother ship. The Ori mother ship is one of my favorite ships in science fiction but something about this one didn't look quite right.
For all those complaining ship sizes bear in mind Trek yards took the actual CGI model of the 304 and compared it to the actual CGI model of the Enterprise E and discovered the two ships are pretty freakin close to the same size. This is further cemented when Carter was taken into the 302 bay and the Odyssey is much larger than a 700ft long warship.
Anubis' Mothership was only 2000m long.
Dude the gliders are off by 500%.
you used the destiny model and called it the seed ship.... and all the sizes are way the hell off...
I've been looking for a video like this, to bad it's totally wrong
Also known fact that Atlantis is minimum of 3200 meters from center to edge, not onlt 4000 total.
It has been said several times in Atlantis episode when going from the center tower to the edge of the city that it is miles aka minimum of 2 miles that makes about 3200meters minimum (sugestion is 3800 to 4200 meters from center to edge) making atlantis around 8km size.
1:40 that moment when you realise Anubis’ mothership is bigger than Atlantis
1:50 that moment when you realise the Wraith Hive Ship dwarfs them ALL!
It doesn't they're all wrong.
The Daedalus is about 240 metres not 600
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the ori ship is FAR FAR bigger , bigger than a aurora class comparable with a hive ship in size. in camelot can be see how an o;neil class ship is very small in comparition and here is pute at almost twice the size of a ori ship. also atlantis si clear bigger than a hive ship. the super hive who was a lot bigger than a normal hive has comparable dimensions with the atlantis
1:03 this is not the seedship I mean that's destiny itself right? And the length isn't 1k but 700+ meters
There is no way a hive ship is bigger that Atlantis . I mean it's a flying city . Flying city
Least accurate scale video ever. There's so many wrong it would take to long to list.
BC-304 is 225
do dinasours
Some of these are wrong. The Earth ships mainly. The show runners themselves corrected the numbers. Prometheus is 520M long. Daedalus is closer to 800 meters long while a Ha'tak is 1K even. The Hiveship is right as is Anubis's Command ship. Apophis's Command Ship might be right as well.
I have noticed that the ADD generation has been here in full......THE MODELS ARE NOT TO SCALE SIZE .....IF YOU READ NEXT TO THE MODEL IT SHOWS ONLY THE LENGTH OF THAT VESSEL AND AFTER WATCHING THIS ...the scales are right for length.
Just throwing it out there that in the show Stargate Atlantis they said the ship was roughly the size of Manhattan,NY which is 22.82 MILES not kilometers in diameter I would say Atlantis is about 15-20 miles in diameter
that is 59.103529 kilo's squared
yeah, the scale of everything is so off i have to downvote sorry...
Hello, from what stargate serial and episode is the starship called "Hive Ship" and "Lantean Cruiser" ? I watch SG-1 and Atlantis (a little) but i dont remember this. Thanks
i seem to remember the oniel zipping around the ori mothership and the tel'tak being able to fit a huge cargo room yet its smaller than a death glider?
Eat he's Ass with two S's you'll probably want to bring some jelly when you do.
Coo, but you definitely got the sizes of the deadlous, Prometheus and alkesh wrong, and hive ship and ahora battleship, and ori mothership, destiny and telteck
I didn't realize Aurora was so large that it couldn't land on Atlantis.
MuffinMan0521 It's not. It's small enough to land on the wings of Atlantis. The city is way too small in this video, it should be similar in size to the Super-Hive. (Which is mislabeled as the "Hive Ship")
All these sizes are wrog!!
all these sizes are wrong any one who watches the show will know this just by how big a the ori ship and ha tak are next to each other so wrong
Sizes don't make sense in Stargate, it's not fault of this video. F-302 is 26.17 m wide, but Prometheus (195 m long/80 m wide) can carry 8 of them
Prometheus reportetly(cannon) is just over 300m long not 195 but yeah the 302 is kinda big winged IMO
It would be nice to have a few human or normal vehicle (cars, trucks) figures in the beginning for a visual comparison to normal stuff.
If you know how big the star gate is, then you know how big the puddle jumper is.
Most of the smaller ship sizes are just straight up wrong. The death glider and the X-301 are supposed to be the same size and both are slightly smaller than the F-302. Also the Tel’tak is much larger than the fighters because it is supposed to be a cargo ship. I was actually laughing so freaking hard at how the X-301 was depicted as almost twice the size as the Tel’tak.
Images look nice however some sizes are still wrong.
- F301/F302 are way smaller in overall all dimension than a tel''tak or an al''kesh. While the number seem legit (35m for al'kesh) the visual proportions are way off...
- Death glider is similar in size with an F301 (which was based on Death Gliders)
- F303 Prometheus seams correct in overall size..
- F304 Daedalus is much smaller (about 270m) as stated on stargate wiki..
- The asgard ships seem to be correct
- Anubis''s and Apophis Mother-ships are smaller than Atlantis (around 2000m)
- replicator ship vs O''neill, number seem legit but the proportion seem off (the replicator model seams way to small compare to the asgard ships)
- hiveship is about 3.0Km to 4Km in lenght (about 15-20 times a 304 which is about 220m) though I seen some numbers stating they are at around 8Km
- Atlantis is larger at around 4km
The sizes of your X-301,X-303 and death glider are the wing spans not the length! The Alkesh should dwarf a death glider!
I've not seen Stargate so I didn't know what to expect. Then I saw the "hive ship" and thought; "naturally, sci-fi hives always have the largest ship (s)."
The scales on this are way off, not accurate to the show, most of these ships are too large/too small
Theodric The Terrible eh aren't really hives, as the wraith operate autonomously. But they do have a queen.
да видео крутое но размеры очень спорные, обычный улей меньше анлантиды, корабли Орай гораздо больше чем хатаки и корабли азгардов, да и корабли лантийцев гораздо меньше...
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DanAtuch забей, половина комментов и так просто это на англ пишут.
I knew anubis's ship was going to be extra but wow hive ships are ridiculously big.
These measurements are all sorts of whack. It would be a great video if I could trust any of the sizes in any way at all.
da heck none of these measurements are right I've seen sg1 and this is no were near the right sizes.
I never understood why the hive ships were so gigantic. For economy of moving mass in space, it doesn't make sense. Maybe it's a plot device so our heroes can endlessly wander the halls discovering something new each episode?
Most of these sizes seem off
can you do an perry rhodan star ship size comparision ?
How come Atlantis and Apophis' mothership have been given different sizes here than in your fictional spaceships video?
Wraith Hive Ship be like:
Problem? *TrollFace*
Expected hive ships to be a match for goa’uld motherships
I would like to mention that I am pretty sure that the asurin and lantian cruisers are meant to be the same size
X304/BC304 650m
Aurora-Class Battleship 2050m
Atlantis 6000m
The Destiny and the Seedships are two different crafts. You not only got that wrong but also their sizes and the sizes of many of the other crafts.
Fairly certain Al’kesh are larger then Death gliders.
ah yes the small fighter is twice as big as the cargo ship with multiple rooms
Awesome.
An Alkesh is a lot bigger then a glider. Destiny is around 750 meter. Aurora wasn't that big at all compared to deadalus
Increible. Gracias por el video
Atlantis only 3 km diameter, it seemed so much bigger in the series
And once again, the super hive wasn't included. Really, I wanted to know its size.
That IS the superhive, normal hives are supposed to only be around the size of atlantis, maybe 1x as big..but not 3x like this.
The problem with ships in sci-fi shows is that CGI art departments keep changing the sizes of the ships to fit the scene and shot. You can't judge their size by what you see on screen. You need to refer to the official tech manuals. If released.
EvilSpock but u still van use logic. In a video f302 fighters looks too big for f303 frigate. And keep in mind that frigate should carry 8 fighters in its hangar.
Watch the Trekyards video on the X-303. It's very good. They show how they changed its size for many scenes, and how the for the Prometheus to be the correct scale compared to the F-302s it has to be 516m long, not 195m.
Yh i though the models were wrong the Prometheus could house f302s but if deffo looked like it couldnt
These are completely wrong
Death glidr and x-301 are smaler than Teltac.
I so expected Destiny to be way bigger.
All good but
Wheres Henterprise?
The models looks great but the scale of basically all of them is way off
Everything on this is wrong. A death glider went through a stargate, yet it is bigger than the puddle jumper?
There is no way that death glider and f - 302 where that big...20 to 30m wingspan???
Boy are you off on the X-301 and the Deathglider. They are the same size as the 302. and a Le'kesh is not that small it is about half the length of the Prometheus. The Tel'Tek is much bigger then a death glider and 302.