I suppose the issue is just that +All is the end all be all best possible stat, and no other stat has ever really been like that other then +true coming close
So tell me if i am wrong here but if you have 5 shard gives 5 all you turn into demon form and consume the shard that means you have the same 5 shard but only last until you deactivate the demon form . So after you collect another five shard and you wont have 10 all but only 5 right?
It doesnt help that all the gambling and the rmt that comes with it has inflated the prices of everything. Countless items r bought up by people who win 200 sk and then sky rocket the price for fun. Obtaining insane unique armor and gems has become harder then ever and only promotes gambling/rmt even more to b on a competitive level with people who under normal circumstances would mayb see one or two artifacts and now r running around with 7 lads on them. This game has gone to shit
or +1 all when wearing 2 pieces from the same group so we can get up to +2 all from it or +1 all when wearing 3 pieces, +2 all when wearing 4 pieces in the same group and +3 All when wearing a full set of matching gear
I got my wife who barely plays the game a soul scrapper. she really wants to make her own kit and has been farming ruby silver for it. when she sees the best rings for her kit is worth all shes saved up shes gonna be demotived. She could probably buy every piece but rings and pendants with +1 all as well.
Can confirm I’ve been running bard/druid with my warlock friend and he can maintain like 40 in every stat and never has to leave demon form due to Druid heals lmao
I wonder why the devs don't take concrete steps to prevent RMT, but instead introduce items to the game that reinforce and bolster the RMT market. And yes, +1 all atts is a contributing factor.
I think you finally hit the nail on the head... "It makes BIS items without +all feel useless." Like you said, it's not that +all is overpowered, but since gold is insanely worthless this wipe, it makes the best of the best 10X more expensive. You're paying 100% more for a 10% increase. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing, but it is certainly the way this wipe has been.
Question for your warlock example, how would you consistently kill 5 mobs after going into demon form (which you would do before pvp, giving you no time to kill mobs), I wouldn't call it op if you have to drag mobs around the map, or be losing health the whole time while you run around to find a team, I would rather lose out on 5 all for being able to use spell wheel to predate buff ball and be able to use blow for fights, because you can't get 5 extra shards without using blow, and you can't spell wheel so you sacrifice both of your ability slots for 5 all attributes, personally wouldn't take that deal, I'd like to hear your thoughts tho
the thing is you ALREADY played demon form and you were getting the +5 all regardless so now you have the chance to get MORE on top of the +5 all you were already getting. yeah youre not gonna get the +10 all every single time but it definitely can happen. especially with these druid comps allowing warlocks to stay in demon form for an extended period of time.
@toddfatherttv 100% yeah, you could probably live in demon form with druids passive heal with lifebloom, all I'm saying is I'd rather be human with boc and 5 spell then get +5 all and no skills in most cases, especially because it would feel forced to stay in demon form other wise I'd lose 10 all and would probably feel clunky at times.
@@Bargest2534 and then die to the demons constant heath tic lol like that's so not viable that it really doesn't matter, you're never going to run around in full demon form constantly even in trios.
+all not being able to be socketed is not an issue. Its incentive for going in the dungeons and finding good loot, something people complained about in good ole patch 69
@@k417njbka7 It's completely doable in Duos. Just exchange between your two basic heals, make sure u have the healing passive, and occasionally grove after a rough encounter.
I honestly dont think the current implementation of all and true is bad. It used to be way worse. I think having these stats in the game in their current form is fine.
All attributes should only be available on 1 special named unique necklace that you can loot from bosses or treasure rooms only. It's an insane stat to have available on any items. It would probably not be too terrible if it was just limited to necklaces, but I think it's not really worth having. True damage should also just be gone except on the Phoenix Choker and Frost Amulet, but those should be high end crafted items. True damage can exist on skills or perks, and I suppose the same goes for all attributes to a degree, but should otherwise be extremely rare and limited.
I hope they remove it and I also hope they remove necklaces of peace at the same time. As long as necklace of peace exists, it makes bear pendant redundant.
Remove +all and true dmg. Remove non name uniques. Then squash the base stats down my 1 on all rarities. Make legendarys as rare as uniques were but with epic lvl base stats. The fact that there are 7 gear rarity’s is just dumb
9:40 Well yeah you could technically do that but I don't see how a demon form Warlock would quickly kill 5 mobs and then stay the whole raid like that, just doesn't make sense, you'd loose all your heatlh before you see someone and it's too slow to do it quickly when you do see someone.
I think you said it perfectly within the first 60 seconds. You don't NEED these to win. You are just blatantly being a meta slave. Stop it and maybe it'll change x D
thanks for pointing that out , seems like ironmace dont learn from their mistakes . Its just to strong in this game , you can already have way to many stats without + all. And on top of that every character now is getting more + all on buffs like cleric and warlock...
@@ondrejhomola9988 Add weapon damage has scaling, while add physic/magic damage does not other than limbs, headshots, and damage reduction. While you "may" deal more damage with a headshot, Reductions like PDR/MDR and Headshot Damage Reduction reduce it to be less than it should be. If add did scale it would be a lot better than true dependent on all of your damage stats.
Brother, pick a side In one breath, you said "1 all isn't op and isn't going to be the decider of a fight" followed almost immediately by "this grimsmile is bis but it doesn't have one all so it's worthless(which is not true btw that ring is bis)
@@toddfatherttv I guess if anything they should make it so max hp can't roll with plus all to make it so you give up some tankiness in order to fill out your kit some more. But overall I don't care if they remove or add it as it doesn't matter too much to me
This is the exact reason we have gone from double movement speed rolling on legs AND boots to now just ONE movement speed roll being on boots. so yes it should be
If the game was based on only 124 lobby player like you perhaps, when you get decent at the game you realize todd is probably the less skilled streamer on this game rn
They can make a stat that is giving +1str and +1dex / +1will and +1know and name it somehow instead of all stats, frost and choker could be changed to additional instead of true, all stats is so op on druid because he benefits from every stat buffball is so good because of druid being op and warlock having +69 all and can shot bolts without losing hp and has boc and can take your buffs xd and can weakness you and can heal on you. Nice.
Todd, literally nobody is running +10 all warlock. You're not holding demon form and killling 5 mobs and being pocket healed in arena. After purging or killing 5 mobs prior. Be honest lol
People definitely cheese the +5 in arena they just suck teammates that buff as soon as the timer starts lol was literally watching red and fox man doing this live...
Hey idiot, you can siphon buffs (such as free to use bard buffs) from teammates to get those +10 all stacks for free, easy, before the arena round even starts.
When it came to 0-124 and 125+ gs lobbies I think the stat difference that +all gave really came out in terms of gear diff. In the video you show a 183 hp fighter, but with ~660 gear score (I dont know if your misc items influenced it) and I've seen an under 124 gs player roaming with white weapons and no cape with 163 hp. All tiers of gear score are effected by it's existence in a negative way. The raw stats are so influential in base hp alone that makes it difficult for any other roll to compete with it, and the action speed and MR is just the cherry on top. You even mention true phys being the only real competition that +all has but that has more to do with how low rolls on rings are in terms of enchantment base stats that true damage is always the best option for output. If +all should be removed so should true damage, and armor pen be the replacement like it's meant to be.
+1 all isn't that bad. but should share slot with +1 True Damage. So this way All Atributes is better for high dmg weapons + tanky builds and True Dmg is better for low dmg weapons and high mobility.
Yeah because im one of the best players in the game. Just because i beat demons glee fighters or warlocks doesnt mean they arent worth complaining about and nerfing?
It’s not a gameplay video? Do you like… watch a cooking video and proceed to wonder why there’s not a single second of gameplay too? Not every UA-cam video has gameplay in it you nerd
im sure most players dont have the time in game and access to the amount of wealth to purchase the best items. For me buying a 5k kit would be a huge purchase. +1 all is not an issue for low level players becasue we arent dealing with BIS items anyway.
@toddfatherttv yeah true. I kind of like it on the low end because in general it is one of thr stronger stats you can get. Before it it was like true dmg was the coolest thing to find. Now It feels pretty good to get true or all. I get your message though. Just my two cents
Honestly all you ever do on this game is complain... you get diffed by nearly every class, i dont wanna be rude but you are not as good as you think you are/were, be humble think about how u misplay and maybe you will get at a decent level.
fox pendant + all isnt problematic pal, if ur dying to people with blue fox pendants ur trash LMAO Classic yapfather complaining about non issues ur litterally worst player in the game. L TODD
+all attributes and +true dmg is just boring, no buildcrafting or anything since they are just always going to be the best
True damage is needed in the game to counter damage mitigation all attributes is just boring
@@craneotpArmor/magic pen?
@@Videos-lq9ioit gives little to none, not worth it
@@Videos-lq9iothose stats are dogshit needs a rework
But then its just !+max hp or nothing and on and on
Todds my favorite virgin. Love this guy, thanks for breaking it down
I suppose the issue is just that +All is the end all be all best possible stat, and no other stat has ever really been like that other then +true coming close
add weapon dmg was like that as well way back
I think they will raise all the other stats. Then +all becomes more an economic option great for fleeing around but not focused on any one objective.
So tell me if i am wrong here but if you have 5 shard gives 5 all you turn into demon form and consume the shard that means you have the same 5 shard but only last until you deactivate the demon form . So after you collect another five shard and you wont have 10 all but only 5 right?
if you collect 5 new shards in demon form i think you will get an additional +5 all
Warlock lacks burst, so to safeguard against that you can get 5 more if you setup the mobs to go down after you spend 5.
It doesnt help that all the gambling and the rmt that comes with it has inflated the prices of everything. Countless items r bought up by people who win 200 sk and then sky rocket the price for fun. Obtaining insane unique armor and gems has become harder then ever and only promotes gambling/rmt even more to b on a competitive level with people who under normal circumstances would mayb see one or two artifacts and now r running around with 7 lads on them. This game has gone to shit
+1 all when wearing 3 pieces of armor from the same group "leather/plate/cloth" and +1 all when wearing all jewelry
or +1 all when wearing 2 pieces from the same group so we can get up to +2 all from it
or
+1 all when wearing 3 pieces, +2 all when wearing 4 pieces in the same group and +3 All when wearing a full set of matching gear
To fix warlock change the passive from +1 all per shard to +3 all when you have all 5 shards
I got my wife who barely plays the game a soul scrapper. she really wants to make her own kit and has been farming ruby silver for it. when she sees the best rings for her kit is worth all shes saved up shes gonna be demotived. She could probably buy every piece but rings and pendants with +1 all as well.
Can confirm I’ve been running bard/druid with my warlock friend and he can maintain like 40 in every stat and never has to leave demon form due to Druid heals lmao
Congestion is your passive ability
He poop himself after each death you know it
it’s the power of the new dungeon system and they never reverted the ridiculous looting change.
what if instead of 5 all from souls, it would be like 5% AS, Phys Power, Magic power, and 5 HP for 5 stacks
who could've guessed this will happen, definitely not ironmace
"yes professor toddysan ^-^," we say in unison
I wonder why the devs don't take concrete steps to prevent RMT, but instead introduce items to the game that reinforce and bolster the RMT market. And yes, +1 all atts is a contributing factor.
Tbh im on the opposite end, i just sell +all because i think its overvalued
Right don't need it
I made a permanent demon form build with my druid duo and killed todd with it the other day, I can attest it is very good
I think you finally hit the nail on the head... "It makes BIS items without +all feel useless." Like you said, it's not that +all is overpowered, but since gold is insanely worthless this wipe, it makes the best of the best 10X more expensive. You're paying 100% more for a 10% increase. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing, but it is certainly the way this wipe has been.
Wow, one intelligent under todd video who would have guessed 😌
Question for your warlock example, how would you consistently kill 5 mobs after going into demon form (which you would do before pvp, giving you no time to kill mobs), I wouldn't call it op if you have to drag mobs around the map, or be losing health the whole time while you run around to find a team, I would rather lose out on 5 all for being able to use spell wheel to predate buff ball and be able to use blow for fights, because you can't get 5 extra shards without using blow, and you can't spell wheel so you sacrifice both of your ability slots for 5 all attributes, personally wouldn't take that deal, I'd like to hear your thoughts tho
the thing is you ALREADY played demon form and you were getting the +5 all regardless so now you have the chance to get MORE on top of the +5 all you were already getting. yeah youre not gonna get the +10 all every single time but it definitely can happen. especially with these druid comps allowing warlocks to stay in demon form for an extended period of time.
no you can't it doesn't even stack@toddfatherttv
@toddfatherttv 100% yeah, you could probably live in demon form with druids passive heal with lifebloom, all I'm saying is I'd rather be human with boc and 5 spell then get +5 all and no skills in most cases, especially because it would feel forced to stay in demon form other wise I'd lose 10 all and would probably feel clunky at times.
@@tylerpetree4271 its is. You can gather 5 soul shardsm turn in demon then in demon form collect another 5 souls on top of demon's +5all
@@Bargest2534 and then die to the demons constant heath tic lol like that's so not viable that it really doesn't matter, you're never going to run around in full demon form constantly even in trios.
voice sounds good bro don’t listen to the haters
Todd when he can’t just W key and hold a shield up and win 💉
+all not being able to be socketed is not an issue. Its incentive for going in the dungeons and finding good loot, something people complained about in good ole patch 69
the yappinator is back
It was okay back in season 3 and 4, +All was either a skill, perk, or spell and should remain that way.
GL kill 5 anything in demon form when lose 2%hp/s
xDDD
yhea that point was a bit of a stretch
Druids exist I’ve been doing it without issue. It’s actually insane.
@ its visible only on trio, and even in trio its still sitinual
@@k417njbka7 It's completely doable in Duos. Just exchange between your two basic heals, make sure u have the healing passive, and occasionally grove after a rough encounter.
Also they re-introduced +all when it was a big goal to add socketing to make items that are almost BIS cheaper, +all is directly against that
I honestly dont think the current implementation of all and true is bad. It used to be way worse. I think having these stats in the game in their current form is fine.
Solution: Add another gem that would allow us to ADD the +1 ALL stat. (Finding arena BIS would be so much faster)
i really dont care for the 1+ But the true phys and magical is just something you just see in all builds...
I think its just the cherry on top, there is already a big gap between rarities
All attributes should only be available on 1 special named unique necklace that you can loot from bosses or treasure rooms only. It's an insane stat to have available on any items. It would probably not be too terrible if it was just limited to necklaces, but I think it's not really worth having. True damage should also just be gone except on the Phoenix Choker and Frost Amulet, but those should be high end crafted items. True damage can exist on skills or perks, and I suppose the same goes for all attributes to a degree, but should otherwise be extremely rare and limited.
I hope they remove it and I also hope they remove necklaces of peace at the same time. As long as necklace of peace exists, it makes bear pendant redundant.
I've thought about that recently.. bear pendant needs a rework, if necklace of peace is in the game. It's useless in comparison
Remove +all and true dmg. Remove non name uniques. Then squash the base stats down my 1 on all rarities. Make legendarys as rare as uniques were but with epic lvl base stats. The fact that there are 7 gear rarity’s is just dumb
the midfather himself xdd
9:40 Well yeah you could technically do that but I don't see how a demon form Warlock would quickly kill 5 mobs and then stay the whole raid like that, just doesn't make sense, you'd loose all your heatlh before you see someone and it's too slow to do it quickly when you do see someone.
I think you said it perfectly within the first 60 seconds. You don't NEED these to win. You are just blatantly being a meta slave. Stop it and maybe it'll change x D
thanks for pointing that out , seems like ironmace dont learn from their mistakes . Its just to strong in this game , you can already have way to many stats without + all. And on top of that every character now is getting more + all on buffs like cleric and warlock...
Mountains out of molehills. Barb and Longsword are much worse in the current patch than any stat.
HAHAH LIL BRO IS CRYING AGAIN
remove +1 all and true dmg
additional dmg is just worst true but feels more rewarding bc of hs dmg. game would be better with additional
@@madagaspar6988add dmg is better with high dmg weapons, u have better scaling
@@ondrejhomola9988 isn’t just worst than true if ur not hitting hs tho? that’s wat i understood from it at least
@@ondrejhomola9988 Add weapon damage has scaling, while add physic/magic damage does not other than limbs, headshots, and damage reduction. While you "may" deal more damage with a headshot, Reductions like PDR/MDR and Headshot Damage Reduction reduce it to be less than it should be. If add did scale it would be a lot better than true dependent on all of your damage stats.
Remove gear for noobs like u yes yes , go back to 124 lobby please
I get we're u get +10 and with bard buffs pluse jewelry u will maybe achieve 15 were do u get 20 from?
+10 from darkness shards and demon form +3 from jewelry +2 from bard +5 from druid tree of life
Brother, pick a side
In one breath, you said "1 all isn't op and isn't going to be the decider of a fight" followed almost immediately by "this grimsmile is bis but it doesn't have one all so it's worthless(which is not true btw that ring is bis)
both of those things are true lol. yes +1 all isnt broken BUT it is significantly better than every other individual roll on an item
@@toddfatherttv I guess if anything they should make it so max hp can't roll with plus all to make it so you give up some tankiness in order to fill out your kit some more. But overall I don't care if they remove or add it as it doesn't matter too much to me
TODDFATHER HAS SPOKEN
When is the arena video coming out?
Then, by the same logic, movespeed roll on boots should also be removed?
not rlly cuz u can roll ms on boot, can’t roll +all.
The commenter meant that +ms is the must have stat on boots same as +all on jewls.
@@twistedbrother yes but u can’t roll all but u can roll ms so its not entirely locked to all ppl
This is the exact reason we have gone from double movement speed rolling on legs AND boots to now just ONE movement speed roll being on boots. so yes it should be
@@toddfatherttv Agreed.
+3 is NBD, we're getting to the stage where youre bored again and complaining about nothing burgers
That's not how it works on locks....it goes away once you come out of demon form you don't just "walk around with plus 10 all"
The only one that always understand the game in the way it should be. If everyone will think about it just like you.
If the game was based on only 124 lobby player like you perhaps, when you get decent at the game you realize todd is probably the less skilled streamer on this game rn
They can make a stat that is giving +1str and +1dex / +1will and +1know and name it somehow instead of all stats, frost and choker could be changed to additional instead of true, all stats is so op on druid because he benefits from every stat buffball is so good because of druid being op and warlock having +69 all and can shot bolts without losing hp and has boc and can take your buffs xd and can weakness you and can heal on you. Nice.
Todd, literally nobody is running +10 all warlock. You're not holding demon form and killling 5 mobs and being pocket healed in arena. After purging or killing 5 mobs prior. Be honest lol
Not in arenas but in the dungeons yes it’s totally happening.
People definitely cheese the +5 in arena they just suck teammates that buff as soon as the timer starts lol was literally watching red and fox man doing this live...
Hey idiot, you can siphon buffs (such as free to use bard buffs) from teammates to get those +10 all stacks for free, easy, before the arena round even starts.
When it came to 0-124 and 125+ gs lobbies I think the stat difference that +all gave really came out in terms of gear diff. In the video you show a 183 hp fighter, but with ~660 gear score (I dont know if your misc items influenced it) and I've seen an under 124 gs player roaming with white weapons and no cape with 163 hp. All tiers of gear score are effected by it's existence in a negative way. The raw stats are so influential in base hp alone that makes it difficult for any other roll to compete with it, and the action speed and MR is just the cherry on top. You even mention true phys being the only real competition that +all has but that has more to do with how low rolls on rings are in terms of enchantment base stats that true damage is always the best option for output. If +all should be removed so should true damage, and armor pen be the replacement like it's meant to be.
Ok. Just stay in 0-25 lobby until you are decent, bye
All attributes has to go.
+1 all isn't that bad. but should share slot with +1 True Damage. So this way All Atributes is better for high dmg weapons + tanky builds and True Dmg is better for low dmg weapons and high mobility.
L content unsubscribing
all you do is cry bro its insane how you are mid fight streaming and crying about the classes you are stomping
Yeah because im one of the best players in the game. Just because i beat demons glee fighters or warlocks doesnt mean they arent worth complaining about and nerfing?
@@toddfatherttvdef not in category of the best what are you saying bozo
@@toddfatherttvBAHAHHAHAHAHA BRO YOU ARE WASHED LITERALL WASHED YOU GET DIFFED BY EVERY CLASS WDYM YOU ARE ONE OF THE BRST P’AYER
@@toddfatherttv how is your ego so big you say stuff like this ??? Its insane 😂😂😂
Just get rid of all modifiers by this logic or maybe just all atts on rings
Straight up sold a leg ring plus all for 6.5k today lol ridiculous
no shot he yaps for 12 minutes without a single second of gameplay
It’s not a gameplay video?
Do you like… watch a cooking video and proceed to wonder why there’s not a single second of gameplay too?
Not every UA-cam video has gameplay in it you nerd
@@creeperslayer3897 😢
im sure most players dont have the time in game and access to the amount of wealth to purchase the best items. For me buying a 5k kit would be a huge purchase. +1 all is not an issue for low level players becasue we arent dealing with BIS items anyway.
it is an issue because you are going to be fighting people with it and like you said you cant get it yourself cause its so expensive
@toddfatherttv yeah true. I kind of like it on the low end because in general it is one of thr stronger stats you can get. Before it it was like true dmg was the coolest thing to find. Now It feels pretty good to get true or all.
I get your message though. Just my two cents
@toddfatherttv please little guy, go back into 124 lobby stop crying 😂
Complaint Todd complainy Todd. Fighter sucks
Honestly all you ever do on this game is complain... you get diffed by nearly every class, i dont wanna be rude but you are not as good as you think you are/were, be humble think about how u misplay and maybe you will get at a decent level.
what is the point you just complaining
This game could have +30 all until they change doors the game is a fucking joke lol
youre literally always reaching for something to complain about cant wait till you stop making dad content
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fox pendant + all isnt problematic pal, if ur dying to people with blue fox pendants ur trash LMAO
Classic yapfather complaining about non issues ur litterally worst player in the game.
L TODD
you ok buddy?
Honestly, looks like a typical comment bait
@@Fesko-ly1wr 🤓
@@arthurbero4081 why you reveal my face😭
I used to be an anonymous stranger lookin ahh
Always crying always is always will be todd ego is very fragile don't make him cry
seems like a perception problem. this video is kinda stupid actually lol