Vidit vs Praggnanandhaa! || Tata Steel (2022)

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  • @CocaColaM14
    @CocaColaM14 2 роки тому +624

    I think this tournament perfectly shows how big of a talent Pragg is and how he lacks of experience when playing against these Super GMs. Next opponents will be Esipenko, Dubov and Fabiano. Really looking forward to!

    • @pnucklemichaels2806
      @pnucklemichaels2806 2 роки тому +64

      Pragg is still young but give him a few more years and see how much of a monster he’ll become.

    • @tech_to_know
      @tech_to_know 2 роки тому

      @@pnucklemichaels2806 but he shuts the door for Vidit😓

    • @swastikkhandelia9859
      @swastikkhandelia9859 2 роки тому +5

      Damn, what a fixture ahead, really looking forward to his game against Dubov

    • @মাধাইদাস-ব২ঞ
      @মাধাইদাস-ব২ঞ 2 роки тому +3

      Not sure if he is very talented. Time will show. Will be very happy if he is talented. He is such a nice bloke

    • @thehillselectricals3545
      @thehillselectricals3545 2 роки тому +1

      Pragg is going to be monster

  • @Steve_Edberg
    @Steve_Edberg 2 роки тому +130

    Fans were suggesting that Praggo should have let Vidit win?? WTF, are they crazy?? Who roots for an outcome like that?? Give the young man his due for playing a fine match and getting the victory. Well done Praggo!!

    • @earthwormsim8068
      @earthwormsim8068 2 роки тому +2

      What arseholes…

    • @Abhijithpchandran
      @Abhijithpchandran 2 роки тому +6

      Who suggests that?? Fans!!!! Why you call them fans??

    • @R4J4N
      @R4J4N 2 роки тому +6

      This mentality comes from the 'land of the prejudices and discrimination.' But unfortunately, there are almost one billion of them. Yet, youngsters like Pragg will survive these atrocities!

    • @SensitiveSavage
      @SensitiveSavage 2 роки тому +3

      Oh because they wanted to see Vidit vs. Magnus I get it. But never just let your opponent win, make them earn it, so both parties can learn something 💪🏾.

    • @richardlobo88
      @richardlobo88 2 роки тому

      ​@@R4J4N wtf are you smoking ?

  • @ramachandra776
    @ramachandra776 2 роки тому +145

    21:49 - "Regardless of whether you play white or black , b4 is always the move " 🙂 .

  • @trucker60ohio65
    @trucker60ohio65 2 роки тому +247

    Moving his king in that triangle towards the end gained him 1:30 on his clock. Pragg needed those precious seconds since he was down to under 5 seconds for the moves leading up to that. Very stressful. 😳

    • @acadumia8547
      @acadumia8547 2 роки тому +31

      It was about the tempe more than the clock. Pragg put Vidit in a beautiful zugzwang

    • @R4J4N
      @R4J4N 2 роки тому +10

      Pragg finding it under tremendous time pressure shows his resourcefulness.

    • @divyanshsinghwal579
      @divyanshsinghwal579 2 роки тому

      @@R4J4N having 30 mins isnt time trouble but yeah he did find many great moves

    • @R4J4N
      @R4J4N 2 роки тому +2

      @@divyanshsinghwal579, I don't know what you are talking about. At that moment, Pragg had only about 2 minutes on his clock, NOT 30 mins, while Vidith had almost 14 minutes. And I saw it live!
      After Pragg's zugzwang, Vidith even lost 12 minutes on his clock.

  • @CaptnCondor
    @CaptnCondor 2 роки тому +381

    I’d be here for an hour long agadmator recap and I can’t be the only one thinking it

    • @LukeEganLyrics
      @LukeEganLyrics 2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely. Can never get enough agadmator

    • @extraFart
      @extraFart 2 роки тому +1

      I watch his vids on 2x so

    • @মাধাইদাস-ব২ঞ
      @মাধাইদাস-ব২ঞ 2 роки тому +3

      @@extraFart that's good. But in 2x you are sure to miss such remarkable comments like "Pragu's little brown rook up Vidit's open gfile" which though he didn't say in this video but might do so in future

  • @cameront3768
    @cameront3768 2 роки тому +94

    This was a fantastic game by young prag..He will cherish this one for a long time and that king walk was Magnuson style end game. Brilliant young man…

  • @stephencolwill148
    @stephencolwill148 2 роки тому +27

    Pragg is an extremely dangerous player. He took a line that had been exhaustively analysed by his opponent and threw it right back in his face.

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp 2 роки тому +133

    Antonio, no cuts, no edits, just straight up masterpiece of chess replay

  • @benjamindavidson4033
    @benjamindavidson4033 2 роки тому +84

    7:44 Agad: What do you play here?
    Me: I have no idea.
    Agad: You could play rook to C1...
    Me: Yes! That's exactly what I would play!
    Agad: ...but then you get checkmated.
    Me: WTF.

    • @sattyda2404
      @sattyda2404 2 роки тому +5

      Never laughed this hard on UA-cam comment.. this is pure gem

    • @tech_to_know
      @tech_to_know 2 роки тому +2

      😂😆😂😆😂😆

    • @veen88
      @veen88 2 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂❤️

    • @2313rafa
      @2313rafa 2 роки тому +2

      🤣

    • @okechirichard7259
      @okechirichard7259 2 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂 Brilliant

  • @danceswithstone
    @danceswithstone 2 роки тому +174

    I'm 22 minutes in and regardless of whether or not the game turns out to be a masterpiece, the commentary definitely is!! I'm on the edge of my seat here. Well done Agad!!!!!

  • @johnchappell9232
    @johnchappell9232 2 роки тому +51

    Incredible game.
    The complications in endgames are such an amazing feature of chess.

  • @sivaramann3730
    @sivaramann3730 2 роки тому +17

    Not only Pragg and Vidit but Agad also rocked in this analysis. Great entertainment.

  • @gaBBarSlnGh
    @gaBBarSlnGh 2 роки тому +79

    Great win Pragg!
    Some Indians blind bias towards Vidit is hindering support for the fantastic Indian youngsters. 🙄

    • @ikshu2708
      @ikshu2708 2 роки тому +33

      Dude no VD fans hate on pragg nihal and other young talents and they are always appreciated and supported

    • @dont-want-no-wrench
      @dont-want-no-wrench 2 роки тому +6

      india seems to have a deep bench of young players

    • @equal7958
      @equal7958 2 роки тому +13

      If Norwegian are biased towards Magnus, doesn't mean it henders Tari.

    • @ayushmaurya1912
      @ayushmaurya1912 2 роки тому +10

      @@equal7958 vidit is nothing in front of Magnus ,even in India we don't expect him to finish in podium this tournament.

    • @babayada2015
      @babayada2015 2 роки тому +13

      @@ayushmaurya1912 We do expect him to finish in the podium....
      Speak for yourself

  • @a.m.armstrong8354
    @a.m.armstrong8354 2 роки тому +32

    Pragg is the future! I always check his games.

  • @ihawp
    @ihawp 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for your commitment to making these videos, got me into chess around 2 years ago, been playing and watching your videos every day ever since then!

    • @2313rafa
      @2313rafa 2 роки тому

      That's awesome! Agad come thru!

  • @muhammadfahimwasee7552
    @muhammadfahimwasee7552 2 роки тому +12

    Love how Agad says Pragu

  • @MArk-yn4sp
    @MArk-yn4sp 2 роки тому +49

    Superb game. My best game so far is Magnus v Pragg, but this is a close second. I'm very glad the players did not agree to a draw at move 16.

    • @thethinker3888
      @thethinker3888 2 роки тому +2

      What about Magnus vs Shakh though…Magnus literally played EXACTLY like Sesse

    • @Intusr
      @Intusr 2 роки тому

      what is the link to that game ?

  • @tonyv5716
    @tonyv5716 2 роки тому +27

    Don't apologize for the 30 min video. This was exciting!

  • @mohammedhala8373
    @mohammedhala8373 2 роки тому +22

    Chess is brutal and its said for a reason..... I dont think even vidit would like to win like that.

  • @navtresolutions640
    @navtresolutions640 2 роки тому +13

    Prague has suffered undeer those tough GM's he's going to become a world champion one day

  • @pauldeck4500
    @pauldeck4500 2 роки тому +9

    First! This game sets the record for the highest number of pause-the-video moments in the entire history of the Agadmator UA-cam channel! Maybe.

  • @kevnas8250
    @kevnas8250 2 роки тому +10

    21:39 - So beautiful how the Knight leads the Queen to dance a half circle

  • @cndbrn7975
    @cndbrn7975 2 роки тому +6

    Pretty crazy game .. Never throw a game, no mercy!

  • @EmpErroRq
    @EmpErroRq 2 роки тому +30

    Praggnanandhaa is a monster in a making

  • @valimaa1006
    @valimaa1006 2 роки тому +73

    I am so spoiled from Carlsens perfect engine lines, 100% accuracy and crushing endgames that I caught myself almost thinking about these two great grandmasters as total amateurs and noobs haha. This was a great game regardless.

    • @abdulmuzaffaraladinbahaman7896
      @abdulmuzaffaraladinbahaman7896 2 роки тому +9

      I can agree with you on this one. Not trying to drag these two super strong GM, but I believe Carlsen could have seen the winning moves. ( but we should understand time trouble and the stake they're playing for.)

    • @tujefaeslaroca3945
      @tujefaeslaroca3945 2 роки тому +4

      @@abdulmuzaffaraladinbahaman7896 I mean rook to A8 was kind of obvious for a lot of time but when he got time control he really played like a pro

    • @abdulmuzaffaraladinbahaman7896
      @abdulmuzaffaraladinbahaman7896 2 роки тому +2

      @@tujefaeslaroca3945Yup. There's no denying about that

    • @defeatist3463
      @defeatist3463 2 роки тому

      Yeah Magnus' Catalan right now is the deadliest opening to face and I'm pretty sure the entire meta will focus on subduing it after this

  • @lynk_1240
    @lynk_1240 2 роки тому +19

    For future reference, YES WE WANT THE HOUR LONG VIDEO!!!

  • @jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917
    @jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917 2 роки тому +3

    10:10 "We guard this square and we don't really care"
    Agad be droppin a rhyme like it ain't no crime

  • @michaelstephen6773
    @michaelstephen6773 2 роки тому +3

    Good stuff... Every video you make is like a free chess class... Many thanks !

  • @yourinthebushes63
    @yourinthebushes63 2 роки тому +40

    To long of a video? I would never complain about to much agad content 👍

  • @DemoniqueLewis
    @DemoniqueLewis 2 роки тому +1

    Great video and glad that you allowed a longer video for such a fighting match. Prago defiantly did the right thing to fight for the victory.

  • @azrieshafiq3214
    @azrieshafiq3214 2 роки тому +1

    30 minutes is long? Pfttt.. When you have Agadmator explaining, it only felt like 30 seconds. This is the good stuff. Always love your contents and keep it up Agad!!

  • @da96103
    @da96103 2 роки тому +13

    18:45 Agad got confused here. 3 times Ra8 was the best move and Pragga missed all 3. At move 40, Qa8 was the best and Pragga played that.

  • @peterday3253
    @peterday3253 2 роки тому +14

    Agreed Agadmator. It's important to maintain the integrity of sport and the fighting spirit.

  • @illegin9951
    @illegin9951 2 роки тому +3

    Agad never fails to impress me with these analysis keep up thr good work bro, my elo was 700 when first started playing in nov 2021 and now its 1300 cuz of this.

  • @sungod9797
    @sungod9797 2 роки тому +2

    “Always play b4” is quickly becoming Agad’s version of “never play f6” lol

  • @cattycats4
    @cattycats4 2 роки тому +2

    Vidit went from a winning position to equal and then Praggu completely winning and than again close to being equal and finally Praggu being winning again which he converted, it was looking very unlikely that Praggu would even draw , how he managed to win was remarkable, very precise and not afraid to use his time

  • @dont-want-no-wrench
    @dont-want-no-wrench 2 роки тому +1

    prag... is a name i didnt know before this tourney. going to watch for him now

  • @TheGmusy
    @TheGmusy 2 роки тому +8

    What a busy game. Really entertaining to watch 🤩🇧🇻

  • @stewiegriffin6503
    @stewiegriffin6503 2 роки тому +3

    Praggnanandhaa stole my chess clock, and I want it back !!!

  • @iwanabemw2
    @iwanabemw2 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Agadmator, it's time for a new overlay for your video's man. It's a classic but it looks really 2001 now hahah
    Much love man!
    Great video once again!

  • @swapnil6080
    @swapnil6080 2 роки тому +1

    13:50 black knight from c5 to b3 check and the white rook gets captured for free... and game over....!!

  • @alfredo4053
    @alfredo4053 2 роки тому +16

    You could make a two hours long video just about the time scrambles in this round!

  • @Astonyshing
    @Astonyshing 2 роки тому +5

    Tremendous game from young Praggu and at times it is difficult to remember that he is only 16. I can never remember a time when there were quite so many talented young players around. Esipenko is doing well in this tournament and is only 19, Alireza isn't even playing in this tournament and is still only 18, the two young Uzbeks, Abdusattorov (17) and Sindarov (16) have both done well in recent events, Keymer from Germany (17) has qualified for the FIDE Grand Prix, Erigaisi (18), also from India, is running away with the Challengers tournament at this event. And that list is probably not complete either.
    Definitely a generation to watch.

  • @primeobjective5469
    @primeobjective5469 2 роки тому +6

    🇮🇳 Pragg 2612 vs 🇮🇳 Vidit 2727
    Let's get it on!

  • @corbettmystic1769
    @corbettmystic1769 2 роки тому +3

    Incredible resilience from Pragu 💫

  • @Boerkreeelis
    @Boerkreeelis 2 роки тому

    Nice, been waiting for this one! Thanks Agadmator!

  • @drsushil9007
    @drsushil9007 2 роки тому +2

    Praggu is doing amazingly well considering he's the youngest in the Masters!

  • @pimaniye41
    @pimaniye41 2 роки тому

    Great video! Best chess channel in UA-cam

  • @hrishikesh3886
    @hrishikesh3886 2 роки тому +1

    His videos r literally the bestt .... Well informative abt each line that could happen and that actually happened ... N also the reason n motive behind why each move was played .. just literally the bestttt

  • @machhijagdish123456
    @machhijagdish123456 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent game with Excellent Agads Analysis and Commentry!!

  • @NeilRamroop33
    @NeilRamroop33 2 роки тому

    I love how at 30:43 Medo perks up. Clearly he recognizes the outro as Antonio's attention is about to be available for him 🐶🤗

  • @alphaandomegaministry2718
    @alphaandomegaministry2718 2 роки тому +4

    Wow Pragu really held it all together. Fantastic game!

  • @abdelrhmandameen2215
    @abdelrhmandameen2215 2 роки тому +8

    Me: I don’t have time to watch a bloody 10 minutes orientation video.
    Agad: drops a 30 minutes video
    Me: but this is different 😅

  • @garrettmanuel2413
    @garrettmanuel2413 2 роки тому +1

    B4, that’s the move

  • @Friendly4twenty
    @Friendly4twenty 2 роки тому +8

    #suggestion Please do the Dubov-Grandelius match from today!! Unbelievable game!

  • @xethnyrrow
    @xethnyrrow 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent work Pragg!
    Also, this longer video is balanced out by the shorter one from earlier so it's all good.

  • @amirrezabarati2718
    @amirrezabarati2718 2 роки тому +5

    What a fantastic game!!!!

  • @marino4691
    @marino4691 2 роки тому +1

    what a game, so many traps

  • @cw__
    @cw__ 2 роки тому +6

    thanks agad for the consistent and insightful videos! i really enjoy how you analyse the games, i always spend a great moment watching :)

  • @mauricioaldana7794
    @mauricioaldana7794 2 роки тому

    Kind regards from the city of Santa Monica, CA, USA! Let’s go Praggnanandhaa….

  • @agayevrauf
    @agayevrauf 2 роки тому +2

    @agadmator, the comments are replied with a strange spam stuff. In the past it was not happening, is there any way to prevent it for the channel?

  • @sadasankar9294
    @sadasankar9294 2 роки тому +2

    Was hoping praggu to win atleast one match. Good that he got a win soon after b2b losses.

    • @earthwormsim8068
      @earthwormsim8068 2 роки тому

      Looking forward to his future domination of the chess world

  • @stevehungerford4305
    @stevehungerford4305 2 роки тому +3

    I don’t even play chess, but that was a spectacular game!

    • @Headhunter_212
      @Headhunter_212 2 роки тому +1

      Welcome to Agad’s House of Recaps. First hit of crack is free.

    • @stevehungerford4305
      @stevehungerford4305 2 роки тому

      @@Headhunter_212 ha! To quote Oliver, “May I have some more.”

  • @adamleckius2253
    @adamleckius2253 2 роки тому +6

    Fantastic game! Hoping also for the other crazy game of this round, Dubov vs Grandelius:) #suggestion :)

  • @shivamchaurasia8152
    @shivamchaurasia8152 2 роки тому +3

    #suggestion
    Fabi Vs Rapport

  • @wandering-jew
    @wandering-jew 2 роки тому +2

    Agad: If you're not up to it, check it another time
    Me: Why else am I here?

  • @matrixmatrix6099
    @matrixmatrix6099 2 роки тому

    After a lot of misses Prag finally won...very good video,thanks...

  • @Stokfish
    @Stokfish 2 роки тому +11

    When Pragg took his mask off his rating went up to over 9000

  • @jainilbhatt1072
    @jainilbhatt1072 2 роки тому +1

    Both of them. Pride of India

  • @মাধাইদাস-ব২ঞ

    It's a beautiful video. Please make such nice videos

  • @GabrielAlmeida-hz5ou
    @GabrielAlmeida-hz5ou 2 роки тому

    Awesome job, Antonio👏

  • @klaasvanstrien989
    @klaasvanstrien989 2 роки тому

    Yes! 👍 I was waiting for this one :)

  • @osterlaich6395
    @osterlaich6395 2 роки тому +4

    Pure brilliancy by prago, innit? He remembered all his moves o.0 the little circles where fun. 🙂

  • @da96103
    @da96103 2 роки тому +1

    From the thumbnails, Vidit plays the villainous son of the richest man in town, while Praggu plays the Slumdog millionaire protagonist.

  • @hussainak8775
    @hussainak8775 2 роки тому

    Great commentary Agad. Pragg games are always beautiful

  • @mohsenhamidipour1592
    @mohsenhamidipour1592 2 роки тому +4

    Evaluation bar should have been on top of board for this video.

    • @voiceofreason9238
      @voiceofreason9238 2 роки тому

      Agad I am an amateur and I would also like to see the eval bar. It helps me see instantly what the computer thinks. I have seen your reasoning as to why you do not post the the eval bar but I would ask you to reconsider. Thanks. -Dave in the USA

  • @nadarTelevision
    @nadarTelevision 2 роки тому +3

    Bravo for covering this match.

  • @cptnoremac
    @cptnoremac 2 роки тому +7

    14:47
    Doesn't Nb3 instead win the exchange here? That seems like an instant move. Maybe the exchange just isn't enough when you're down two pawns and the enemy king is near the center of the board.

    • @jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917
      @jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917 2 роки тому +2

      With perfect play, that's pretty much a draw offer. Keeping pieces on the board is always preferable if you can't guarantee a favorable endgame.

    • @AdarshPk
      @AdarshPk 2 роки тому

      I was wondering the same thing.

    • @Bekothegreat
      @Bekothegreat 2 роки тому

      It's a valid point and I definitely paused the video there. Not sure it is winning though as there's a 2 pawn advantage for white

    • @zagrebnesh1875
      @zagrebnesh1875 2 роки тому

      it's not the exchange, but a whole piece

    • @cptnoremac
      @cptnoremac 2 роки тому

      @@zagrebnesh1875 Nah. After all the captures, white's on the knight and it's white to move.

  • @andymilborrow2673
    @andymilborrow2673 2 роки тому

    Wow. What a game - amazing endgame play.

  • @dipakbhatt16
    @dipakbhatt16 2 роки тому

    Great game and great commentary as usual!!!

  • @krisss42
    @krisss42 2 роки тому +3

    A well-fought battle by young Praggu! Still much to learn, but really a bright future.
    #suggestion Fabi vs Rapport, a position that should not be a win, but time trouble makes it possible

  • @FenceThis
    @FenceThis 2 роки тому

    13:50 36) --, knb3+ picking up the rook seems promising aswell

  • @scottmaclean1416
    @scottmaclean1416 2 роки тому +2

    I first one dont care about how long a video, although if I'm being honest, 30 minutes is a delight. You are here to entertain chess loving minds and help us forget how stupid and mundane life can seem. No apologies on video length and the more the merrier my good friend

    • @2313rafa
      @2313rafa 2 роки тому

      Nah, life is not that. Change your mindset, bro. It's extremely difficult though, I know.

  • @AndersonNeo12
    @AndersonNeo12 2 роки тому

    The 2 most important squares in this game were A8 and of course B4 😃

  • @gk-lg3ci
    @gk-lg3ci 2 роки тому

    Agadmators Very Nice Analysis..)

  • @neildonnan4415
    @neildonnan4415 2 роки тому +1

    the Knight to c5, Rook to c4 pinning the Knight against the Queen is a blunder as Knight b3 check wins the exchange
    at 13.44

  • @aseq2
    @aseq2 2 роки тому

    13:55 isn't ...Nb3+,Kb2, Qxc4 good for black ?

  • @rickharold7884
    @rickharold7884 2 роки тому

    Oh man love it and the battle.

  • @davidetombini1250
    @davidetombini1250 2 роки тому +4

    #suggestion can you show Dubov Grandelius game???

    • @rainersustinkins8377
      @rainersustinkins8377 2 роки тому +4

      You should add #suggestion for Agadmator to show Dubov vs Grandelius.

  • @yoda4280
    @yoda4280 2 роки тому

    Absolutely spectacular match between praggu and vidit 💪🏼

  • @kamleshamareshbabuji1114
    @kamleshamareshbabuji1114 2 роки тому +3

    Superb game.. Young pragg is extremely talented.

  • @yogeshadvani4494
    @yogeshadvani4494 2 роки тому

    Meadow : This is an long intense game, I'll just take a nap

  • @vitaliyg.9257
    @vitaliyg.9257 2 роки тому

    Really cool game and review, many thanks, Sir!

  • @DonEscualo
    @DonEscualo 2 роки тому +1

    Please please do caruana rapport!!🥺 Cannot find a single overview🥺🥺

  • @magnus_norgren
    @magnus_norgren 2 роки тому +1

    You just have to show the Dubov vs Grandelius game #suggestion

  • @MrK623
    @MrK623 2 роки тому +2

    Can anyone see that the discovery at 13:53 Rc4? Nb3+ wins? Or explain what I am not seeing?
    The K must move and then the rook is overloaded, QxR. Game over.

    • @swapnil6080
      @swapnil6080 2 роки тому +1

      Yes I saw that too Nb3+ and white rook falls. Very long flawed game for sure

    • @MrK623
      @MrK623 2 роки тому

      @@swapnil6080 Yes thank you. While you can miss a move in a blitz game or a rapid game when your time is low, there is no way you can miss this move in analysis, which instantly wins. And easy to spot.

  • @alicesplace6306
    @alicesplace6306 2 роки тому +6

    13:44 why not Nb3+? That would have picked up the rook for the knight

    • @raajsavaj
      @raajsavaj 2 роки тому +2

      I thought the same!

    • @bekisroilov2278
      @bekisroilov2278 2 роки тому +2

      I was hoping he would metion that, too. But after playing that exchange out white would have 5 pawns to 3 while the b6 pawn would be easily captured as well by giving a pass A pawn. So I guess, it wouldn't be the best exchange, but that's definitely what I would have done in my games lmao

    • @yehtetaung287
      @yehtetaung287 2 роки тому +2

      Nb3+ ,all trades and exchange win were not sufficient for a win because Prag was two pawns down.It's more likely to be a draw

  • @pallad.
    @pallad. 2 роки тому

    Love this Karjakin quote from his tweet 😆

    • @SamuelPearlman
      @SamuelPearlman 2 роки тому +1

      Karjakin needed a win, not sure why he's tweeting about his draw...

  • @lordzon
    @lordzon 2 роки тому

    I would have never thought to play that triangle.

  • @rileyvonbevern4652
    @rileyvonbevern4652 2 роки тому +1

    this tourney exemplifies why I think Praggnanandhaa could very well win the world championship in the next decade or so. Not just the brilliant resiliency that he's displaying but from what he is bringing into the game as well