It seems like this is why some players and coaches talk about the proper feeling of like they're slapping the back of their left hand into a wall at impact - because that motion would stop the hands and release the angular momentum.
Very interesting topic. I know there was a slow motion version but for me it would be great for Scott to explain it in more detail. Overlaying lines to show the difference between better swings compared to not doing it correctly would be helpful. Scott appears to know all the methods of the golf swing, some of us need some help understanding some of the ways to convert our swing with hints to do it. I know he is a busy well received coach, I appreciate his time in these videos.
I love your content, obviously you have the deepest understanding of an efficient swing. I keep on thinking about shooting the bb out of the end of the shaft at the club head. Is this anywhere near what you are teaching here, also some coaches want us to swing as hard as we can and make the head stop a foot past where the ball was. Do you have a drill that will assist us. Thank you.
this is great information, but trying to drive the handle forward seems to be the opposite of not only what happens in a good swing but also what needs to happen to improve hand deceleration and unloading of club and lag angles. more and more data seems to show that forces and intents need to be put into the system way earlier than one might guess, which essentially means you need to be thinking about letting that club head fire past the hands well before impact. sergio hits fades from a draw position coming down, there's no way he could do that if he tried to drive the handle forward, he's releasing that club head and pulling his hands back and up to the left as hard as he can.
16:03 i think this is a wrong example to illustrate the purpose and benefit of linear/angular work. ball speed/smash factor is a confounding variable and should be eliminated from this discussion--in fact if two strikes have different smash factors, they should not be compared at all. why? because smash is clearly only a matter of club head speed and face delivery at impact (dynamic loft, lie, AoA & strike location) as Scott said. the only swing metrics that really should be considered for this topic are peak hand speed (a measure of effort) and club head speed (a measure of the result) because what is really at focus here: how can a player most efficiently convert his hand speed to club head speed by playing with tempo and deceleration? if you put in the same effort and ball speed increased without any change to club head speed then clearly there was no improvement in the swing efficiency, but only the strike efficiency--which is not an expected result of linear/angular work nor should it be.
I’m about to get Dewiz but how do I learn about all the numbers? Your video is a great tutorial on the numbers and what it all means and how each can affect what.
Where do you get the hand deceleration speed data from? I see hand speed and distance to impact but not a second hand speed data point. How do you see he is decelarating for example, 6 mph?
Hey Grant! Scott is using the "Max Hand Speed" number to identify the Max Hand Speed (MPH) and WHERE that occurred in the downswing by looking at the "Max Hand Speed Distance to Impact" (CM or Inches) number. Side note: The 3d avatar also states where your max hand speed occurred visually. Hope that explains it ⛳ Best wishes, / Team deWiz
Just found this channel and the content is great. On video 5, the concept is well explained but you dont discuss the "how." Have you done a video explaining how to generate the hand speed and then brake hard? Are you stopping the hands or using the lead leg? Both? Thanks
Forget he ever said brakes for this segment, thats not what happens. If anything its more like running into a wall of jello. You need some braking from the left leg a little later.
i understand the information, but seems like it's ''guesswork'' from swing-to-swing! can one play good golf like this? can drills, training aids help to get this feeling?
The guys at Athletic Motion Golf did a pros vs am on handspeed. They claim the opposite of what Scott is saying, that the sooner the max hand speed happens the faster the club head speed. Am I missing something?
All good info.....in theory. Amateur golfers over the past 20 years or so have been sold a "bill of goods" on modern club swing weight. Modern "amateur" swing weights are around C9, (which used to be the standard for women golfers) with the club seller telling the golfer that a lighter weight will increase swing speed. Most pro's swing into the D8 or even E0 swing weights. This heavier swing weight dramatically increases the angular momentum (referred to as "the release") through the hitting area. Also, the heavier swing weight effects the flex of the shaft, making it feel more flexible. So the average pro swings a D8 club with a X-flex shaft; the average amateur swings a C9 club with a regular flex shaft and wonders why he can not hit it as far as the pro. Not enough angular momentum because your swing weight is too light.
Pros aren’t at E or D8. Stock swing weight for a lot of irons is d2. D0 for some of the lighter ones. You can look up pro swingweight on most of the what’s in the bag posts. Often they’re in the d3-d4 range with a couple guys going to d5 or 6 in their woods like drivers. Steve Elkington has the highest swingweights I know of and he’s around E0. But nowhere near the extremes you’ve claimed here.
@@aleksilepisto7282 Yep, I could sit on line for hours looking up specs and come up with the majority at D4. That being said, go to any of the major outlet stores and you will find clubs at D0 - C9, considered women's clubs just a few decades ago. Swing weight effects how the club feels during the swing and how it releases with different shaft flexes. I an tell if one of my wedges is off by one swing weight, which is the weight of a dollar bill. I did just that when I was buying new wedges recently when the fitter had to add lead tape to go from D2 to D3 on one of my wedges.
Terminology and explanations are a bit confusing (cutting out). I am not even clear on what you are telling the player to do here. It would have been very helpful to provide a visual by manipulating the golfer to where the brakes should be applied.
It seems like this is why some players and coaches talk about the proper feeling of like they're slapping the back of their left hand into a wall at impact - because that motion would stop the hands and release the angular momentum.
Very interesting topic. I know there was a slow motion version but for me it would be great for Scott to explain it in more detail. Overlaying lines to show the difference between better swings compared to not doing it correctly would be helpful. Scott appears to know all the methods of the golf swing, some of us need some help understanding some of the ways to convert our swing with hints to do it. I know he is a busy well received coach, I appreciate his time in these videos.
Great video, guys ! I am patiently awaiting Friday's drop!!
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I love your content, obviously you have the deepest understanding of an efficient swing.
I keep on thinking about shooting the bb out of the end of the shaft at the club head. Is this anywhere near what you are teaching here, also some coaches want us to swing as hard as we can and make the head stop a foot past where the ball was. Do you have a drill that will assist us.
Thank you.
this is great information, but trying to drive the handle forward seems to be the opposite of not only what happens in a good swing but also what needs to happen to improve hand deceleration and unloading of club and lag angles. more and more data seems to show that forces and intents need to be put into the system way earlier than one might guess, which essentially means you need to be thinking about letting that club head fire past the hands well before impact. sergio hits fades from a draw position coming down, there's no way he could do that if he tried to drive the handle forward, he's releasing that club head and pulling his hands back and up to the left as hard as he can.
16:03 i think this is a wrong example to illustrate the purpose and benefit of linear/angular work. ball speed/smash factor is a confounding variable and should be eliminated from this discussion--in fact if two strikes have different smash factors, they should not be compared at all. why? because smash is clearly only a matter of club head speed and face delivery at impact (dynamic loft, lie, AoA & strike location) as Scott said. the only swing metrics that really should be considered for this topic are peak hand speed (a measure of effort) and club head speed (a measure of the result) because what is really at focus here: how can a player most efficiently convert his hand speed to club head speed by playing with tempo and deceleration? if you put in the same effort and ball speed increased without any change to club head speed then clearly there was no improvement in the swing efficiency, but only the strike efficiency--which is not an expected result of linear/angular work nor should it be.
I’m about to get Dewiz but how do I learn about all the numbers? Your video is a great tutorial on the numbers and what it all means and how each can affect what.
Where do you get the hand deceleration speed data from? I see hand speed and distance to impact but not a second hand speed data point. How do you see he is decelarating for example, 6 mph?
Great video. What function is Scott using on the deWiz to measure hand speeds.
Hey Grant! Scott is using the "Max Hand Speed" number to identify the Max Hand Speed (MPH) and WHERE that occurred in the downswing by looking at the "Max Hand Speed Distance to Impact" (CM or Inches) number.
Side note: The 3d avatar also states where your max hand speed occurred visually. Hope that explains it ⛳
Best wishes,
/ Team deWiz
Hi guys ...nice video....thanks to Scott sir....so when you have angular power player will be more negative attack angle ...?
Just found this channel and the content is great. On video 5, the concept is well explained but you dont discuss the "how." Have you done a video explaining how to generate the hand speed and then brake hard? Are you stopping the hands or using the lead leg? Both? Thanks
Forget he ever said brakes for this segment, thats not what happens. If anything its more like running into a wall of jello. You need some braking from the left leg a little later.
Scott is amazing how do you contact or learn from this person?
So is this a feeling like snapping a wet towel?
That's a great feel for reduction of hand speed. That visual is a great one for most people to feel the deceleration.
I wish I could find a video where they are helping someone who actually needs more speed
Dynamic loft is equally more smash , tour players hit so far is because the flush it everytime.
I can find max hand speed and distance on the deWiz info but where is impact hand speed?
Hi. You find this number on the graph below the avatar. Just pull the slider to impact, and it will show you the hand speed.
i understand the information, but seems like it's ''guesswork'' from swing-to-swing! can one play good golf like this? can drills, training aids help to get this feeling?
It would have been great to see the numbers while he is describing what's going on for us to understand.
The guys at Athletic Motion Golf did a pros vs am on handspeed. They claim the opposite of what Scott is saying, that the sooner the max hand speed happens the faster the club head speed. Am I missing something?
I think they are saying the same thing really.
I also think they are saying the same thing, this video talks more about the release. AMG says shoot the BB out the shaft.
All good info.....in theory. Amateur golfers over the past 20 years or so have been sold a "bill of goods" on modern club swing weight. Modern "amateur" swing weights are around C9, (which used to be the standard for women golfers) with the club seller telling the golfer that a lighter weight will increase swing speed. Most pro's swing into the D8 or even E0 swing weights. This heavier swing weight dramatically increases the angular momentum (referred to as "the release") through the hitting area. Also, the heavier swing weight effects the flex of the shaft, making it feel more flexible. So the average pro swings a D8 club with a X-flex shaft; the average amateur swings a C9 club with a regular flex shaft and wonders why he can not hit it as far as the pro. Not enough angular momentum because your swing weight is too light.
Pros aren’t at E or D8.
Stock swing weight for a lot of irons is d2. D0 for some of the lighter ones.
You can look up pro swingweight on most of the what’s in the bag posts. Often they’re in the d3-d4 range with a couple guys going to d5 or 6 in their woods like drivers.
Steve Elkington has the highest swingweights I know of and he’s around E0. But nowhere near the extremes you’ve claimed here.
@@aleksilepisto7282 Yep, I could sit on line for hours looking up specs and come up with the majority at D4. That being said, go to any of the major outlet stores and you will find clubs at D0 - C9, considered women's clubs just a few decades ago. Swing weight effects how the club feels during the swing and how it releases with different shaft flexes. I an tell if one of my wedges is off by one swing weight, which is the weight of a dollar bill. I did just that when I was buying new wedges recently when the fitter had to add lead tape to go from D2 to D3 on one of my wedges.
What's the loft on his 7i?
34*
I mean, this is helpful data but I can't imagine saying to myself before the swing, "47 centimeters, and take off 7mph on my angular hand speed"
I agree - but practice makes that feeling less foreign. It helps you understand the feeling of where that zone is, and how to achieve it more often.
"pull the grip across the ball" is so bad
Terminology and explanations are a bit confusing (cutting out). I am not even clear on what you are telling the player to do here. It would have been very helpful to provide a visual by manipulating the golfer to where the brakes should be applied.
If we are ever lucky enough to have Scott on the show again we will definitely implement that idea!
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