Great advice. If only I had a field without trees surrounding it. Sometimes the ugly takeoffs are necessary to make flying an EDF possible while flying at a local field.
3 choices.... You can please order from the links on the videos in the description sections... If you like Military.... this is really awesome and very easy to fly... F-16 Here is my video. ua-cam.com/video/DoEthtMJIXE/v-deo.html If you want a sport Jet, this is my recommendation... Futura... Here is my video again, if order do from link in video...ua-cam.com/video/fhQF8frXfl8/v-deo.html Actually, my favorite for being super easy to fly is the A-10... it is so easy to fly and land. Really floats... LInk for that one there too... ua-cam.com/video/pzCAsg3NQz0/v-deo.html
That was a great performance with the easy to fly Viper 90 although the video was bad it looked like the sky bit thanks for the tips as I'm just now getting into EDF jets after flying rc helicopters since 01.
Awesome Michael. Thats the excat jet I have and cant wait till I fly it agian this year.. weather starting to get stable here in the North. But mine is pretty hard to keep it straight when Im speeding up on the grass runway before take off.. I have tweaked it quite a few times but still the steering wheel moves too much. so I learned how to just counter steer it so its straight. If I just add the throttle to speed up it will go all over the place...
This is exactly the video I wanted to watch. I'm still practicing on an eachine warbird, an eflite Cub s2 and a flight simulator, working up to taking my Parkzone 44" Spitfire on it's maiden flight this summer. But I've been dying to get into EDF and this video answered so many questions, thank you! I've been taking a long look at the RTF Habu as the best place to start, anyone here flying one?
I’ve been flying an AeroScout as my first plane. I have a HABU STS which will see it’s maiden this Friday. Then, once I get bored with it,(I doubt I will) I have a 15th Anniversary Viper ready to go.
Another great video Micheal. Got a question for you, If I can. when do manoeuvers such as CUBAN HEIGHT, do you, like I do with prop plane, reduce power when you go down portion? I have a new SebArt MB399 EDF, I just can't wait for summer to fly
@@MichaelWargo thanks a lot for the confirmation Micheal. Another thing I did, is to slow down the response speed on throtle, so the EDF respond more like a turbine (spool up as well as spool down). It look and sound more scale and consume a bit a less energy every time I open throtle. will make you a video soon as the spring is back (leave in Quebec. where we manufacture snow for the rest of heart)
ON the avanti, I used either a 6s 4000 which is my favorite. A light one though. It is a Zippy, and not a high c discharge. This plane is so much better with a lighter battery.
I am watching all your piloting lessons with interest. Thank you for your work. It's a pity that the work of the sticks is not visible in the video, as it is sometimes done in training videos. That would explain a lot. If it is not a professional secret of course ;)
No Trade secrets! I will show anyone anything they want to see. The moves are small and not really interesting and pretty obvious. On 3d I have a lot of vids with stick movements.
when / where exactly in the landing process is the best place / time to start dropping the flaps?......I am always afraid to put them down too early ( causing a slow speed tip stall ) .... ...thanks
I would do it when you feel it. Generally though, I add right after my final turn or just before. I have my 1st flaps in on my downwind leg. If it slows you down, then you get to add throttle which is great for controlling the plane and descent.
Thank you! That kind of advices were what I was looking for. As a rookie my older colleagues say I fly too wild. I want to prepare for my first Edf flight :)
Thank you Michael, I would want to try the slow rolling, should I control with elevator and rudder when slow rolling to make it roll smoothly and in the right altitude level
It's sad, because years ago they had some really, really cool jets including fiberglass ones. I just wish I had bought the Avios Mig, which also disappeared.
are you sure you don't have access to instant power on an edf? shouldn't be you don't have access to instant lift over the wings? my edfs out accelerate my prop planes no problem, but they stall easier when turning. also I get off the grass as quick as possible. I don't want to risk breaking my gear and I don't have such a massive flying field.
I am really referring to Typical Jet characteristics. It is really only the ramp up I am referring to. When you hit zero to full on a prop, it pulls at max near instantly. With an edf, it takes a bit more time. Granted, they are so powerful, it is not as noticeable as it used to be, but the Thrust curve is different than a prop.
For example, if you put an edf and prop side by side similar wattage to weight ratio, and raced them to 10ft, the prop would win easily. Prop would be there before the edf got very far, but the edf will be much faster top speed.
If you are dead stick and stall there is EDF ramp up time and you might very well loose the plane in the stall. Prop planes are a bit more instant. It can be good to keep a little power in.
Just a comment to EDF flyers is for them not to hog the runway for themselves (it can be antisocial), make sure your fan is well balanced to reduce noise and always declare when you are doing a low pass so that you don't hit anyone who might think about crossing the runway. It's great here that his throttle is at a logical level and the EDF is not noisy.
The problem there way to many R/C Flyers not R/C Pilots today. We all know them, every club has a couple. You know the guy that causes people to run for the shelter when he heads for the flight line. The guy everyone knows the FOOL is just one crash away from KILLING someone. Thank GOD for the non YANK & BANK guys. But there's the NumbSkull with more money than common sense. I don't care if these guys crash out past the Pilot Stations but when the regularly crash in or just lose it and fly over the pits and parking area, and no one says anything because he's with the IN CROWD.
Great advice. If only I had a field without trees surrounding it. Sometimes the ugly takeoffs are necessary to make flying an EDF possible while flying at a local field.
Thanks great advice will try to keep it all in mind 👍
Sorry to see your flying Fields surrounding is changing so much and not for the better.
I have that problem too, lots of forest around our airfield…
Beautiful and accurate flying, Michael !
Very awesome lession here. Thank you Michael.
Thank You for this Amazing Video 📹 which 1st EDF Plane would you recommend a Beginner to purchase ? Please...
3 choices.... You can please order from the links on the videos in the description sections... If you like Military.... this is really awesome and very easy to fly... F-16 Here is my video. ua-cam.com/video/DoEthtMJIXE/v-deo.html If you want a sport Jet, this is my recommendation... Futura... Here is my video again, if order do from link in video...ua-cam.com/video/fhQF8frXfl8/v-deo.html Actually, my favorite for being super easy to fly is the A-10... it is so easy to fly and land. Really floats... LInk for that one there too... ua-cam.com/video/pzCAsg3NQz0/v-deo.html
I purchased on of these over the winter and will be flying it this summer. Thanks for the great tips!!!
That was a great performance with the easy to fly Viper 90 although the video was bad it looked like the sky bit thanks for the tips as I'm just now getting into EDF jets after flying rc helicopters since 01.
That was a good show! I'm glad I showed up today.
Awesome Michael. Thats the excat jet I have and cant wait till I fly it agian this year.. weather starting to get stable here in the North. But mine is pretty hard to keep it straight when Im speeding up on the grass runway before take off.. I have tweaked it quite a few times but still the steering wheel moves too much. so I learned how to just counter steer it so its straight. If I just add the throttle to speed up it will go all over the place...
This is exactly the video I wanted to watch. I'm still practicing on an eachine warbird, an eflite Cub s2 and a flight simulator, working up to taking my Parkzone 44" Spitfire on it's maiden flight this summer. But I've been dying to get into EDF and this video answered so many questions, thank you! I've been taking a long look at the RTF Habu as the best place to start, anyone here flying one?
Go with the viper the habu you’ll find just to easy and get bored real fast 💨
Go for the Habu! I’ve been flying one as my second plane and it’s great! No complaints other than it takes a little practice to get her slow to land
I’ve been flying an AeroScout as my first plane. I have a HABU STS which will see it’s maiden this Friday. Then, once I get bored with it,(I doubt I will) I have a 15th Anniversary Viper ready to go.
Sorry but your cameraman needs some practice . Keep the plane in the mid picture and never on the edge , this is a tip from a procameraman
Another great video Micheal.
Got a question for you, If I can. when do manoeuvers such as CUBAN HEIGHT, do you, like I do with prop plane, reduce power when you go down portion?
I have a new SebArt MB399 EDF, I just can't wait for summer to fly
YEs... Making speed consistent on up and down lines is an important part of it as well as geometry
@@MichaelWargo thanks a lot for the confirmation Micheal.
Another thing I did, is to slow down the response speed on throtle, so the EDF respond more like a turbine (spool up as well as spool down). It look and sound more scale and consume a bit a less energy every time I open throtle. will make you a video soon as the spring is back (leave in Quebec. where we manufacture snow for the rest of heart)
Great video!! Many thanks!! Which battery did you use?
ON the avanti, I used either a 6s 4000 which is my favorite. A light one though. It is a Zippy, and not a high c discharge. This plane is so much better with a lighter battery.
@@MichaelWargoMany thanks, and then, how much flight time do you get?
@@piloto300 Not much really last few years. Once a week or sometimes less with weather issues.
I am watching all your piloting lessons with interest. Thank you for your work. It's a pity that the work of the sticks is not visible in the video, as it is sometimes done in training videos. That would explain a lot. If it is not a professional secret of course ;)
No Trade secrets! I will show anyone anything they want to see. The moves are small and not really interesting and pretty obvious. On 3d I have a lot of vids with stick movements.
@@MichaelWargo Thank you
when / where exactly in the landing process is the best place / time to start dropping the flaps?......I am always afraid to put them down too early ( causing a slow speed tip stall ) .... ...thanks
I would do it when you feel it. Generally though, I add right after my final turn or just before. I have my 1st flaps in on my downwind leg. If it slows you down, then you get to add throttle which is great for controlling the plane and descent.
Good information.
Thank you! That kind of advices were what I was looking for. As a rookie my older colleagues say I fly too wild. I want to prepare for my first Edf flight :)
Had to see it again and it will be probably not the last time :D
Great content!!!
Too advanced
Thank you Michael, I would want to try the slow rolling, should I control with elevator and rudder when slow rolling to make it roll smoothly and in the right altitude level
Thank you for this video.
Thanks for the Great Tips
Hobbyking doesn't even sell any edf jets anymore. It only has one outdated durafly vampire, but other than that, no more.
It's sad, because years ago they had some really, really cool jets including fiberglass ones. I just wish I had bought the Avios Mig, which also disappeared.
Its not just EDFs, there is a woeful lack of competition across the board. Especial balsa.
are you sure you don't have access to instant power on an edf? shouldn't be you don't have access to instant lift over the wings? my edfs out accelerate my prop planes no problem, but they stall easier when turning. also I get off the grass as quick as possible. I don't want to risk breaking my gear and I don't have such a massive flying field.
I am really referring to Typical Jet characteristics. It is really only the ramp up I am referring to. When you hit zero to full on a prop, it pulls at max near instantly. With an edf, it takes a bit more time. Granted, they are so powerful, it is not as noticeable as it used to be, but the Thrust curve is different than a prop.
For example, if you put an edf and prop side by side similar wattage to weight ratio, and raced them to 10ft, the prop would win easily. Prop would be there before the edf got very far, but the edf will be much faster top speed.
@@MichaelWargo I get you. Why we never see an edf 3D plane!!
@@M4rkmcc21 look up wargo edf hover
If you are dead stick and stall there is EDF ramp up time and you might very well loose the plane in the stall. Prop planes are a bit more instant. It can be good to keep a little power in.
i should have bought the red scheme, it is more visible than the yellow
Just a comment to EDF flyers is for them not to hog the runway for themselves (it can be antisocial), make sure your fan is well balanced to reduce noise and always declare when you are doing a low pass so that you don't hit anyone who might think about crossing the runway. It's great here that his throttle is at a logical level and the EDF is not noisy.
The problem there way to many R/C Flyers not R/C Pilots today. We all know them, every club has a couple. You know the guy that causes people to run for the shelter when he heads for the flight line. The guy everyone knows the FOOL is just one crash away from KILLING someone. Thank GOD for the non YANK & BANK guys. But there's the NumbSkull with more money than common sense. I don't care if these guys crash out past the Pilot Stations but when the regularly crash in or just lose it and fly over the pits and parking area, and no one says anything because he's with the IN CROWD.