David Baddiel: 'We created God because we are scared to die'
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- “I said, sorry to tell you this Rabbi but I’m an atheist. He said, so am I. I thought, blimey!”
David Baddiel, self-described fundamental atheist, explains why God exists.
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John Lennox wrote
“Either human intelligence ultimately owes its origin to mindless matter; or there is a Creator. It is strange that some people claim that it is their intelligence that leads them to prefer the first to the second.”
That use of the word "prefer" is so pejorative. It's not about what we might like. It is about what is true.
@@LaurenceBoyce using the laws of logic and the excluded middle, What David Baddiel has written may or may not be true, in which case it is his belief.
Here's one person who doesn't want god to exist so therefore he's totally wrong wirh his statement "we all want god to exist"
We would all want God to exist in the sense of their being someone watching over us, guiding us, helping us, etc. The only problem with this is that it is not true. And when you consider the vast amount of suffering in the world, then the belief that God is somehow still watching over us becomes rather vain.
@@LaurenceBoyce I don't want somebody watching me have a poo thank you.
@@mikeboydus Yes, and everyone thinks that they are the wheat, and that other people are the chaff. That is why it is vain.
@@LaurenceBoyce Not unilaterally of course, but there's always someone looking out for us. Parents, teachers, spouses or our children for some examples. No one is an island etc etc.
@@LaurenceBoyce I agree with that. The worst deads are committed by those who think they are the most holy. Zarathustra has a fair amount to answer for.
God created us.
BS
@@johnvaleanbaily246 do you believe anything in the Bible? Jesus fir example.
@@johnvaleanbaily246 so you don’t believe in Jesus.
Ok then what happened 2023 years ago?
@@davidrobertsemail No, I don't. At approximately that time a man was in all probability born and may have been called Jesus Christ. It is thought that he may have been a prophet, a charismatic leader, a mystic or a rabbi - no one really knows for sure. As with most of the (approx) 2500 religious beliefs currently followed around the world , all claim to be the one true faith - following the word of the one true God. How can that be - they cannot all be right ?
@@johnvaleanbaily246 so you do believe in Jesus after all.
So do I.
The fact you 'desire' God to exist, doesn't make God a reality. It's a belief.
The fact that reality exists confirms God's existence. There is no better evidence to the fact.
@@mikeboydus there will always be a leap of faith required. Human beings currently have the ability to observe several billions or perhaps soon trillions years of time and light years of space. I would like to suggest this observation is comparable to LESS than a single drop of water in the milky way.
@@ryngrd1 Well, as we exist and there is no God, that disproves that hokum.
The problem with the projection argument is that it presupposes a screen against which our desires - for immortality, universal justice, eternal life, etc. can be projected _against._ In fact, this screen, serving as the backdrop for our projections and giving them their shape and form, is infinity. Infinity allows us to transcend finitude and thereby understand it as being, well, finite. Based on this concept of all concepts, most major religions have always asserted that it is ultimately the infinite which makes all finite knowledge and endeavor possible in the first place. Or as one of the scriptures of religion says: "In your light, we see light." - Psalms 36:9.
His hounding of Jason Lee, even by the standards of the day, was barbaric. Has he repented?
For his sake, he'd better hope Jason Lee isn't God
The concept of the love of our Creator is compelling. In my life experience, I have found that love is the only thing that makes life worth living. But the concept of God watching us and judging us is equally repelling. Sure, we want universal justice as a general rule but we don't want our personal injustices to be known, let alone judged. We hate the idea of God running our lives for us just as adolescents, we hated the idea of our parents running our lives.
Most atheists don't want there to be a God because their lifestyle does not hold up to an omniscient judge who punishes evil and rewards good. This is the red herring of Atheism, especially pronounced among the "greats" of the so-called Enlightenment. Just look at Voltaire.
Dude 😂😂😂
Although it might be added that Voltaire was indeed a Deist.
Of course this is just his opinion and has nothing to do with truth or reality. This is like Trump saying something and people believe it is true.
He’s a lot smarter than trump to be fair 😂
Alcoholics who are recovering definitely believe in God. He removed their suffering 🙏
Inflicted their suffering..
And the alcoholics who relapse and die? God doesn't give a stuff about them, I guess.
Removed their suffering 😂😂 Hunger and poverty enters the chat
Poor David. His name literally ends with “el” which means god. Your task now, David must surely be to explain our existence and the phenomenal order in what we see around us.
Stuff just happens, what the hey?!
You are not looking at the whole picture. Look at a picture of a galaxy (which you can do thanks to modern science, not religion). You see something beautiful and well-ordered. What you are not seeing is the massive quantity of dust and gas which has been cast off while this galaxy was "created." The overall picture is disordered, and becoming increasingly so.
@@LaurenceBoyce Living things and the organisation of matter in general is just a more efficient way of dissipating the huge surplus of energy in the universe
We have many branches of science that will explain why things as they are, ordered.
As there isn't one it's just as well I don't give a toss about superstitious blxnbs. Thus we don't all need one and and speak for yourself about being scared to die. Concerned about the method of dying of course but nothing else.
I don't. Eternal life would be like going stark raving mad. Think before you speak man
The fool says in his heart there is no God. Psalm 14:1
I think believing in god is a deriliction of self responsibility. The concept is ultimately all our collective unconcious. People should believe in themselves and look after each other more. There are many powerful individuals in the world but everyone needs help themselves sometimes as well. Confusing power with absolute power is akin to the dunning kruger effect.
I think David is probably right but his view will never be a popular one as it’s a rather bleak worldview (even it if may well be true)
Thanks David. So intelligent.
Confused man.
To the journalists: you are a nice couple.
Primitive man invented God to explain the inexplicable. Then leaders created or used religions to control their people. All proper religions must fight others, because only "theirs" can be the true one.
Where death is, I am not. Where I am, death is not. Just hope it doesn't hurt. 🙂 Simple.
The most advanced machine ever created in history (that we know of) is the human being. This design wasn't created by human beings. Therefore, we know there is a designer at work which exceeds our capabilities by many many orders of magnitude. To say we don't believe in God is to say we greatly OVERESTIMATE our own ability to comprehend reality. 🔥
I wish you guys would just read an elementary book on evolutionary biology before you sound off.
Cool story bro
Why is a human being the most advanced machine ever created?
Explain further please.
@@LaurenceBoyce some dude wrote an elementary book about evolutionary biology. You perhaps? God created actual evolutionary biology. Now that is impressive 🙏
@@abett6111 most advanced computer systems (hardware and software). Most adaptable fuel system. Most advanced self repair/healing system. No man made pump on Earth can do as much work as the heart without failure. Humans beings have created machines, but none of them are even close to the advanced machine that is the human being. God has blessed us with one heck of a gift. 🙏
Actually I didnt want there to be a God until I ruined my life then I reached out in humility and saw the Unity and found the "Holy Spirit"(not Holy Ghost) God is 100% real butis not anthropomorphic in any way and this presumption taints all the "analysis" of the athiests like this guy. Hes not wrong about human psycology but it really disproves nothing
So. The anthropomorphism in the Bible is completely false.
So all Bible followers are false in their journey to God?
Bohdan - I had a similar moment, told I had cancer, with 50% survival. I thought, "this will test your Agnosticism... will I pray?" (raised, C of E)
Now, 45 years later, I didn't, and remain a settled Humanist, happy with my mortality, living, sharing, the best life I can.
Horrified at the too frequent religious believer's atrocities.
You are wrong
God is such a corrupted word for God
Well we either happened by chance out of nothing or something is eternal and ordered.
Those are the choices.
Atheism is a positive belief in the former and it is as evidence free as anything.
It's quite reasonable to believe in God.
It's the exact the opposite of reasonable. I don't believe in fairytale, and you do. You probably believe in Santa too. Keep your delusions to yourself.
@@darkangel9171 it's entirely reasonable. There is literally no evidence that something ordered can spontaneously pop out of nothing.
None at all.
the god phenomenon was genetically introduced by our creators..... like programming robots.....but then they left.....
God is a Christian Catholic
Is She?
Which diocese?
I do hope not Maryland
@@-yf3rh the only True God
@@-yf3rh Catholicism is the only true faith. Got it, RuZZian mongol?
@@-yf3rhyes it is. All other Christian denominations are offshoots.