False Oak Beam - Perfect Corner - Lamello Zeta P2
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Nothing in the world will make you want a sliding table saw more than watching that Altendorf. It makes my Hammer K3 look like a postage stamp.
I agree if the money supply was limitless. If you had a finite amount, would that be your number one purchase? The table saw is often the centre of the processes (jointer/saw/thicknesser is always my starting process), but that Altendorf seems very space hungry. Unfortunately, it’s not a choice dilemma that I am ever likely to encounter.
I’m very pleasantly surprised that Manor Wood have calculated that there are/will be enough throughput to make all the (considerable) investment financially worthwhile. Before lockdown, it seemed that most bespoke wood businesses were having long term struggles keeping their head above water just on making. So many had to turn to teaching or leasing out space to make it all work. In modern times, because of the rate in which improvements to machinery and process are being made, machinery usually has to be depreciated very steeply. Whereas, say 100 years ago, a piece of machinery might have a real earning life of 30,40, 50 years, I had to depreciate (not for taxation which is a very different calculation) over 3, 4 or 5 years and make provisions based on that.
Better machines = less time , less staff needed , more time to design .. for me that is
@@ManorWood I have no doubt that you’ve made all the business calculations that should be done. The crux of the calculation has to be upon assumptions of sales going forward. My business operated in a sector where you contracts were awarded for 3,4,5 years. That made planning easier than when you can’t depend upon repeat weekly, monthly throughput. I wouldn’t want to go into the issues of how you are financing your investment - that’s way too personal - but businesses have obviously failed not because their output was not profitable in one sense but because of the size of overheads. There, you might well have an advantage in “owning” the business property. When I was MD of a much larger company (which I didn’t own) there was always the dilemma of chasing business to help keep machines working; that might well mean taking on marginally-profitable business from people who took too long to pay.
As I said originally, I am very pleasantly surprised that your calculations justify the investment. So many other bespoke makers have been unable to.
The oak corner looks great on your new building, you can't tell it's two pieces that have been joined.
Those Lamello Zeta p2's are a real time saver, they saved clamping that awkward section up. Tony
I used to work in a workshop with the same kind of altendorf saw machine. One time the machine broke somehow and we needed to get a mechanic to fix the problem. I wasn't there at the time when the mechanic came around but my colleague was. He told me what the mechanic said, "this machine can't break, but it can be broken" what he meant by that was the way that we used the altendorf was bassically to rough. After our boss heard that he got quite mad at us for not using the machine in the proper way, i think it was because we had to wait for a week on the mechanic, and the cost that came with that, let's just say, were quite high.
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A young guy from the netherlands
These saws are Stunning, and so well made. For me it’s a accurate tool so needs to be treating with respect. I guess if you bash anything around too hard it is an accurate piece of machinery it will fail. Thanks for your feedback and support welcome
The New Saw looks something else, Lovely bit of kit.
That oak corner looks good on the new building.🇬🇧😀
Cheers Phil :)
Have you looked into "airtight clamps?" They use a vacuum system, and they can be used to hold down both front and back of a workpiece. They have enough reach to extend over the crosscut fence on sliding tablesaws. ExtremeWoodworker has a video on how to install them on his Altendorf tablesaw. The sawyer can operate both clamps with a flick of a switch, which can save you a lot of time. Really enjoy your videos.
I haven’t seen these, have you got a link I’d love to look into it
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
Nice work! Really looking forward to seeing more of the shop build :)
Its coming .thx
Super
I luv oak
Hey.. I hope you can give some advice or from your experience. We tested the lamello on 16 mm oak nosings . The cut was 45 degree. When we assembled/tighted the joint with the lamello, the outer (exposed angle) opened up by 1 or 2 mm. It was like the clamp pressure tightened up the inner angle.. have you any experience of this with the lamello.. any advice greatly appreciated
Nice work. What's the purpose of the plastic clamex? Does it pull things together more than just a regular biscuit?
Yes , massive clamping force . Check out the other video links for more in depth on the lamello
Pri load clips don’t decrease the clamping force
That is what they say, I’m not 100% sure on that my self
how do you finish that white oak for outdoor use? Thanks!
How are you liking the Zeta? Does it help with your work?
Perfect for some job .. like this one ☝️
To get those Martin clamps, did you have to order an entirely new Fritz and Franz jig, or were you able to order the clamp separately?
no just the Martin clamp - ruwi.de/en/wood-line/saw-safety-clamping-system/
Aha! I found them in their online shop. They were in a sub category. Thanks :)
At 1:55 of the video you talk about this Martin clamp that has the capacity to reach over the crosscut fence. Do you have a model number or link to these? Also, you do a lot of hardwood milling too on the slider. Was wondering how much higher do you prefer the sliding bed above the cast table? There’s always these debates about how high to be. I process both sheet goods and hardwood, is there a happy middle range to be at? Thx
I’ve had a link to description for Ruwi contact them and all about it
@@ManorWood looks like I’d have to buy the whole system just to get the clamps, but I only want the two clamps, thank you anyways..
Hi Do you have a link to those hold down clamps that you have on your F45?
ruwi.de/en/wood-line/saw-safety-clamping-system/
@@ManorWood Thank you, I have not seen them for sale in Australia, so will have to order some online Cheers
Only way I’m gonna be able to relate to your channel is if I burn down my garage and upgrade my tools.
Hmm Funny choice of words, around 11 months ago we suffered a devastating fire 90% the workshop was raised to the ground everything lost..:(
@@ManorWood Yes I’m well aware of your fire. Wasn’t trying to be nasty or anything. Just a point I can’t relate to your industrial high-end tools. Unless I were to come into a windfall.