@@DellikkilleD Ah yes. First responders should just stand around and watch a person die, who they would otherwise have the capacity to save just because the protocol says that's the way it has to be done. Boy, I hope you aren't in a position of power in your municipality!
@@DellikkilleDyou are an insensitive, unbelievably ignorant person for these comments. I refuse to believe you wouldn’t do the same thing placed in the same situation, and if you really let that child suffer any longer than that captain had, you truly are a heartless person. Life over protocol. Period.
@@DellikkilleD "Sorry, guys, I cannot transport your grieviously injured child which is in excruciating pain in my vehicle, it is against the rules. But I'll give you my thoughts and prayers" is NOT appropriate. My wild guess is: If he hadn't transported that child that way he would've been chastised for not doing it and sticking to the rules. Sometimes you cannot win because the one in charge are assholes.
“Rules are made for perfect situations; it’s for the Captain to make them fit the imperfect ones.” Captain James Kirk. This Captain lived that sentiment.
It’s a TV scriptwriter’s take on a WW2 quote from an RAF fighter pilot, Sir Douglas Bader…. "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men"
My grandaddy was a firefighter. It was against protocol back then for them to share their air supply when doing rescues, but he could never stand to see a child suffer and shared his air supply often. He ended up with emphysema from the repeated smoke inhalations but never regretted it for a second, because in many cases, sharing his air meant the difference between a child making it out alive. No one should be penalized for giving their all to ease the suffering of another person.
This is a really tough one. If he didn't share his air, the child could have died or had live long illness. But if he did, there is a chance he could have lost consciousness and got himself and the child killed. I am happy he was able to save him and is alive, good in him.
@@pianissimo7121 he probably knew how to do the sharing business of oxygen, which is not easy and he probably has the emphysema because even small particles can cause emphysema what happens is the lungs get damaged over a period of time any firefighter can get that by the way, not just one that is sharing his oxygen to save person’s life. What your granddad or dad did I can’t remember if it’s granddad or dad at this point it’s too early in the morning was the right thing to do, but that’s the problem though isn’t it sometimes you do the right thing and you get punished for it and it’s wrong Just plain wrong.
Even in my police department, our supervisors had a conversation with us when we started getting 1 hour+ ambulance delays in a MAJOR city. The conversation went: "I can't tell you to transport a seriously injured child or any other individual in your patrol car, but you do what you need to do". First responders didn't swear an oath to follow dumb ass policies, we swore an oath to preserve life.
My father-in-law benefited from this sort of action. He slipped and fell last winter in his driveway, breaking his femur. A city worker saw it and called it in, city police showed up for the 911, but EMS was going to be 40 minutes because of the volume of calls they had on due to the crap conditions. Cop made the decision to get him in the car and take him to the hospital, which was contrary to normal procedures, but he received kudos for doing the right thing.
@@agirlnamedmichael1670 seems pretty relevant when so many pigs go out of their way to violate the rights of people, gun down individuals for no reason, or otherwise betray the badge and the community they serve.
He chose to save a life. He never even thought about the "rules". "Rules" never crossed his mind. He did his job and saved a life. He is a HERO. But, my guess is he doesn't look at himself as a hero. He looks at it as he was just doung what needed to be done.
But, did he, though? Or did he endanger a life by transporting a pediatric patient with non-life-threatening injuries without an adequate method of securing said pediatric patient in the vehicle?
Let's have a rational discussion. Can you find data to support the notion that a 1 - 10 minute difference makes a clinically significant difference in a patient with partial thickness burns over the lower extremities? And enough of a difference to risk bodily harm or death to the patient by transporting them without adequate age-appropriate restraints? Part of growing up is the ability to calmly and logically examine the situation and provide the best calculated approach.
@@DominickWalenczak well considering being asked by a small, hurting child "When is help coming, it hurts" or "please make the pain go away" Its tough making the logical and protocol decision as an emotional, irrational being(human)
My husband and I recently obtained our CPR AED in a fire department. It was explained to us that the AHA doesn’t teach or recommend mouth to mouth anymore because of blood-borne disease. The instructor clarified, “You all have to decide for yourselves, but I’m telling you right now, as a father, if a four year old needs mouth to mouth, I’m providing mouth to mouth.” We all nodded effusively, clearly deciding the same thing. First responders do what they do because they care about people, about strangers. I already think there isn’t enough protection for them when they have all the best intentions and something goes wrong. Nothing even went wrong here! He’s being punished because “the rules”, written non-specifically to cover every one of a thousand scenarios, say to wait for an ambulance, assuming a standard response time. Disgusting. If there is a petition or anything to help this man, please reply with it so I can sign it.
if that were me and i lost my job over it, i wouldve said, "In all universes, and all realities, i wouldve still done the same thing and i would not regret one second of it."
100% agree, for those of you who don’t work in EMS, we have a rule called the “Golden Hour” meaning from time of injury you have one hour to the victim to surgical correction, otherwise their chance of making a good recovery droops off drastically. 24 minutes waiting for the ambulance, plus the fire engine’s own response time to the scene they were already halfway through the Golden Hour, that captain made the exact correct choice, thinking of the patient care first. Wish I could shake his hand too.
Every minute truly matters. If the team that responded to my roommate’s panicked 5am call had waited for the old, broken elevator to get to our floor… I don’t know what would have happened. Instead, one of the paramedics decided to just carry me down the stairs. I later found out he was alarmed at how underweight I was. He should not have been able to carry me so easily… In that lizard-brain state, I was attempting to bite anyone who touched me.
Most of the views we hard are from field personally lets look at this from a leadership stand point. So are you calling 2nd degree burns surgical correctable? The ambulance was disregarded when near by? How would this story read if that Childs airway would have swelled shut and died while being transported on a illegal unsanctioned vehicle? Did this action break any laws? Could the Captain and the fire department be held criminally liable? Could the captain be subjected to a medical review and possible lose his license, better yet could the fire department be fined and or suspended by the state medical board? I think the fire department had no choice but to act in the manner for which it did. So why does it take EMS so long to arrive? obviously I don't have that answer, but why is that EMS makes 80 % of the runs and we are not will to an ambulance in every fire station and then cry when response time are so long? I remember when fire departments did not even want to go to medical calls and they now have taken the moral high ground.
Don't forget the time wasted by people not calling 911 right away, often waiting for someone else to do it. The clock starts ticking at the moment of the incident, not when the call goes through, and he had no way of knowing how long people had stood around with their thumb up their behind before deciding to call. This guy should be getting a medal, not a reprimand.
Capt can rest peacefully at night knowing he saved that child from any further, unnecessary suffering, screw every last superior who didn't stick up for him.
@@Beandiptheredneck all the ambulances were probably on toe pain calls when this call went out and the closest ambulance was across town. I have had that happen on a infant CPR, thank God we got there and it was a baby with a cough.
Just Google "Oklahoma City firefighter qualifications" the fourth bullet point on Google says the must be a Licensed EMT by the end of their probie year, so that means not only was this officer a seasoned medical provider so were multiple others on that fire rig and made a transport decision as such. If they weren't required to have an EMT level medical training and only CFR or lower I could see this reaction from the higher ups holding some water, but this is a fresh steaming pile of 💩 otherwise.
Everyone in the comments is saying how incredible that fire captain was. They're absolutely right. But I also want to say, what an incredible speech this was
@@ryanmedic789 What kind of back ass fire dept doesn’t have sterile water and burn sheets on their suppression pieces? I can promise you that a major department like OKC would....
@@AlphanumericCharacters Actually that's exactly the reason . Its simply a meat industry. There is no caring or compassion for the victims. They are only seen as money in the pocket
He is an angel, the department could not deliver what was needed at the moment, and they are lucky to have him, so is the child, and the entire community.
One thing I learned in 36+ years of working for the Federal Government is that sometimes you have to figure out what rule to break. You try to pick the one that does the least damage if things go sideways. I applaud this Captain for doing exactly that.
"You are being charged a $2,000 fine and will be released of your duties for saving a burnt child's life" - The prosecutors/judge probably "Thank you for saving the child's life!" - The child, parents, fellow firefighters, EMTs, and normal people who appreciate what this man has done
He didn't commit a crime, he broke a policy. Prosecutors and judges have no say in the matter. A lot of policies actually break the law. Even if he did commit a crime, he can use the defense of necessity. For example, if you're in the middle of nowhere with no way to contact emergency services but there's a parked car that isn't yours, you may legally "borrow" it if doing so is necessary to save someone's life. A more common example is going slightly over the speed limit and running red lights when a pregnant woman is about to give birth and you need to drive her to the hospital. The defense of necessity doesn't apply if you're driving recklessly though. Basically, it has to be reasonable.
@@Accrovideogames wrong. Policies when deemed needed can be broken. Laws and rules are written and not universal laws. if judge says "you caused no harm, parents not pressing charges and had very good reason to act like this therefor you will be just getting a slap on cheek, you are relived from duty for 1 week and gonna work under supervision for a month, case dismissed" goverment has rights to dismiss any charge that is not charged by other people, they just choose to not do it
Everyone, including you would've been up in arms if the fire truck crashed and the baby was further injured or even killed. Then you would be citing negligence on the part of this chief, the family would've sued the fire station, the chief and the city (and won) and now the tax payers are on the hook for another multi million dollar payout. The rules are there to avoid that lawsuit. I don't agree with it, it's just fact. If judges and Juries would do a better job at throwing BS lawsuits out, this wouldn't be an issue.
Policy is for guidance, not blind obedience. The fire Captain is a Captain because he has been deemed to have the experience and judgment to handle situations where policy doesn't tick off all the boxes.
I live with chronic pain, regularly puking, and thank God for him. That poor child was suffering that man was like enough is enough, this child needs help now. I don’t wish my pain on another, and I cannot imagine the pain that poor child was in either. And others pointed out that delayed care increases risk of infection and I have cleaned enough wounds and watched enough people deal with sepsis to cheer this man on to make sure that the child is less likely to get any of that. Children want to be firefighters because of the goodness in their heart to help people and save lives, and he’s emblematic of that virtue.
As a retired ER nurse I applaud this man. Not only did his fatherly instincts kick in but his life saving instincts and his “it’s the right thing to do” instincts. This child was undoubtedly in pain, dehydrated, and possible airway concerns. Rules are rules for reasons, but when it comes down to lives the rules don’t ALWAYS apply. This man should be made captain somewhere.
Rules that have no flexibility are the reason for so many problems with the country. Here is just another one that does not live in the real world and was put together by people who could not think outside their own bubble. Good work Captain.
I've always loved the line: "The most well laid plan never survives the enemy." In this case you could picture the rules as the plan and the enemy as the emergency situation. You can never plan for every single possible situation or the book of rules will become so thick it's unreadable. The process of emergency life saving care should be follow the rules but when the rules fail do what is necessary to get the patient to the doctors.
Many rules are rules because somebody in a fancy suit was a dick. Many more are rules because some stuffed shirt needed to show they were still "doing something" to avoid being fired for utter worthlessness. I wish I had a way to figure out the exact percentage. I bet if I could, it would horrify us.
@@calebnation7797 exactly as a nurse I did it a few times, arguing with doctors when I knew I was right but they were sitting on their ass. I only ever fought when I knew I was 100% correct and could back everything up but I also knew doing it I could likely lose my job or be disciplined and have it follow me my whole career
I can say as a parent (and my husband happens to be an EMT) that if my child had died or been severely disabled because they were “following protocol” instead of literally saving my kid, I would raise hell.
Has anyone pointed out how much pain and fear the 2 year old must have been in? Waiting 20 minutes must have been EXCRUCIATING for everyone who was there! That he had he discipline to wait THAT long in order to follow protocol is in itself a testament to his self discipline! Bravo, Captain.
That ought to have been seen as evidence of his respect for, and willingness to adhere to the rules. It's absolutely sickening that the higher-ups within his agency didn't defend him. Shame on those cowards. Bravo to the hero fire fighter, as well as to anyone within his agency that had the courage and decency to go to bat for him.
And at only 2, this was probably literally the worst thing that poor kid has ever experienced. The Absolute Worst Day of their Entire Life so far. Every minute probably felt like hours.
I've had 2nd degree burns twice in my lifetime. The superficial nerve fibers flash fry, so initially the pain isn't so bad...no where near what it'll be after 20 minutes. The chief was watching the child suffer more and more, knowing it wasn't going to get better until he reached an ER. Knowing the risk of infection was going up by the minute.
worst thing is that if if was just some random guy in a truck driving the child to the ER nothing would have happened... due to rules the firefighters can't do shit in this situation...
@@Scott___T and thats the problem... in such situation you should never have to make the decision of keeping your job or saving someones life... Thats the problems with such regulations. As i said if a civilian would have done this there would have been no legal action but if a team of medical professionals without a transportation license does it they face repurcussions...
@@AHolst-ec7kn That Capt will sleep soundly at night knowing he made the right call. Probably shouldn't have cancelled EMS and probably should have asked for an intercept but; if they didn't show up to the scene they weren't going to meet them on the road. At this point his brothers know he did the right thing. Their respect probably means more to him than anything his COC can do.
Well, at least he can sleep at night and look himself in the mirror and know that he did the right thing. There’s nothing worse than seeing a child injured or in pain and there’s nothing that can be done. He at least did what he could to ease that child’s pain.
@@abcdefgabcdefg720 I am saying the firefighter waited over 20 minutes for an ambulance with a baby that had 2nd degree burns then took the child in the vehicle to the hospital. The firefighter should be a hero. The rules would not matter had it been one of their own kids. In some rare cases rules can be broken for the greater good. Saving a child is as good as it gets. What was the hold up with an ambulance? Does anyone know?
@@donnawest1126 Apparently the ambulance that was called was on the other side of town and was stuck in traffic but don't quote me on that I may be wrong.
He may have upset the executives, the politicians & the suits who spend their days clean, in air conditioned offices but he earned the respect of every hardworking grunt in the trenches!
My Grandmother always said. "IF you can DO!". perfect example right there. He knew the exact repercussions of his actions, but the life and pain of a child mattered more than any of them. This reminds me of that lifeguard that got fired because he saved a drowning victim outside of his designated zone.
But sadly that is slowly becoming the norm.... If it looks or sounds good.... Who cares if people get hurt....it's all about the rules....not what is right or compassionate
@Everett Padgett how do you get left vs.right from this ? The fact is simple this isn't political this is about the letter of the law which is what's being used against him vs. the spirit of the law which is how the law should be applied. In this case this man did the moral thing and the law which was most likely written to curtail use of the equipment for personal conveyance was used to punish. Laws are not moral they are rules usually put into place to make people more ethical, but they are rarely ever based in morality. This man should not be punished and those who live in the town where this happened need to pressure their respective councils and Mayor as well as county commissioners to reinstate him in fact take it to a state level if necessary. In no way is this a left or right thing. That line of thinking is exactly what has lead to the rancor and division enough is enough.
There is an exception to almost every rule. That’s why people in charge need to really think about each situation and how the rules apply. This wasn’t reckless or self serving or done by amateurs. This is firemen rescuing lives!
Naw rule was made to dodge responsability if kid died in the firetruck or something it opens the fire departnemnt up for a lawsuit if kid dies on a sidewalk its like oh well ambulance was busy they dont give a shit about the kids life only the money they could be sued for
I watched a video with four cops taking a major electricity shock and burn victim to the hospital in a cruiser, as ambulance wasn't there yet. True heroes just like that captain!!
He has done a very heroic job, if I could, I definitely would shake his hands for being such an awesome person and making a great decision in order to save the poor child’s life. He actually deserves to be honored and deserves to get a medal for that job
"The paramedics say they were nearby." Right. Guy probably saved the city a couple hundred thousand dollar lawsuit loss. 20 minute delay on ambulance arrival is a MAJOR failure of the system. That's three deaths long.
@@somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway but then they should say that, ok, because of covid the system failed, so we're happy that this guy did what he did, despite it being against protocol
"Umm? Oh a child died while we were getting tacos? Ummm Covid, yeah we are such short staff right now because of it. Try suing the disease for the death of your only child." The real heroes is the firefighter and the EMS was busy doing other things, must of confused their current job with their 2nd job as an Uber driver.
Sometimes the rules don't indicate the morally RIGHT thing to do. This man is a hero. I'm speaking as someone who suffered the same thing as the young girl he rescued. I, too, had 2nd degree burns all over me when I was a toddler. Time was of the essence and because I was rushed to the hospital immediately, I came out fine with no scars, no lasting problems.
Way late here, and stupid long reply incoming, but thank you Jason for not pointing fingers or placing blame directly and solely on the EMSA ambulance drivers. In this case, EMSA as a whole *was* to blame since it was the company politics that started the entire complaint against Corey Britt (firefighter that made the decision to transport the child), and EMSA had been getting slower and slower to respond around the city throughout the pandemic due to Covid itself as well as staffing issues, but the EMSA EMT/Paramedics themselves in this particular event were not to blame. They were just people trying to do their jobs during a shit show of a time in the world. This was when the Covid19 pandemic was still causing countless issues around the world. During this time, hospitals were extremely overcrowded and ambulances often found themselves having to wait outside hospitals with patients still in the vehicle because there were no available beds. This could result in wait times of 4 hours or more before they could respond to additional calls. This put a massive strain on many, many medical facilities around the country especially in larger cities like Oklahoma City which has more than 1,000 firefighters and 38 different stations, not counting their EMS and contracted EMSA departments. Yes, the child was an absolute high priority call, but in some cases during the pandemic times, there was simply no way to hurry up the process when all ambulance units are currently on a run. The options are pretty much sit and wait for room in the hospital to open up and hope against hope it happens quickly, or kick your current patient out of the ambulance and make them sit on a street corner somewhere. Or, in this case, take matters into your own hands and get the child to the hospital in the best way you can when time is of the essence. After this incident, OKC changed their related regulations. Senate Bill 1515 passed on November 1, 2022 and allows a certified emergency medical response agency to provide limited transport in an emergency vehicle after receiving the approval of appropriate medical control, even if that vehicle or company is not made for patient transport... as was the case in this particular situation with Fire Station 34s Corey Britt.
I'm so glad we changed things after the situation (Oki native, here). Still sad to see he lost his job over it and was likely never reinstated after the bill passed, though. Or, I assume at least, considering no news was ever reported (that I could find) about him being reinstated.
When a man puts the life of another above his own career, knowing that he will likely be disciplined, that is the mark of a true man. Honor, integrity and courage are what set the few apart from the many.
That's a FACT! Wish more people thought like that. Too many who tout the "humanitarian" principles are the same one who turn against those like the fire captain who live the life of true humanitarians and help those in need.
Doctor: “Sorry, it’s against policy to treat a burn victim that has not been properly transported. Please take the child back to the scene and call for another ambulance.”
I’m in ems. And your wrong what he did is amazing and I’m proud of that firefighter and what he did. Until you know what it it’s like to see people suffer like that you can’t understand. Plus that kid need treatment that’s something that can’t wait .
If those politicians showed up at hospital in life or death critical condition. Then Dr. Said sorry can't treat you till paperwork filled out. Oh I don't have insurance info go hame and get it. They would sure change policy very quickly. Or if it was their loved one.
This is bullshit. He should be hailed a hero, and giving a raise. They need to get this rule out of there. Give the hero back his job. He did what he was supposed to do. Save the life of a 2 year old, which he did. If anything the EMS DEPT Should be answering questions as to why it took over 20 minutes to get there and transport the patient. BRAVO WELL DONE... I APPLAUD YOU.. and you shouldn't lose your job over it. Get a life to the people who fired the fireman.. He is a HERO.. LET THE HERO SERVE
What a lot of people are overlooking and the reason we have policies like these is when something like this does happen and things dont turn out well the parents then sue and probably win a big settlement. People are shitty and always look for someone else to blame.
@@Inbal_Feuchtwanger Yeah, well that's a risk they all take as first responders. The problem is the system allowing a lawsuit to be carried out against a first responder that did the right thing. The excuse you're making doesn't excuse the fact that they relieved this HERO of his duty for doing the right thing. I get that you're only looking at it from the view of a liability standpoint but, it's still not a viewpoint of a logical person that sees it from a human perspective. I bet this man's superiors would be begging for their child to be transported, by any means necessary, if the EMS were not showing up for 20+ minutes. The fear of a lawsuit? Then they wouldn't show up and transport ANYONE at all.
My son wanted to be a cop, he did a co-op with the police when he was in high-school. After that he was like NOPE, I want to be the person people run to not the person people run from. Hes in school now to become a fireman. 100% the better option for him.
To this gentleman, and you sir are a gentleman, as a firefighter I would want you in our corner, helping our family. What a wonderful thing you did. I have such great respect for you because you didn’t just stand by and allow that baby to suffer and boy was she suffering, you thought of the child before consequences. From the bottom of my of my heart…Thank you! 💐
This is the society we live in, a firefighter waited 24 mins for an ambulance to help a two year old with 2nd degree burns, AND HE IS BEING SCOLDED?! society can’t change if we don’t change
I feel ya Bro. I agree with this sentiment. Went to a single vehicle accident, there was a fight and bloke was killing the other guy. Only to get told off, and reprimanded for getting involved and stopping one bloke kill another because the police were still 10 mins away. It's a crazy, crazy world...
@Paul Martin inferior to what? What is your standard for a "functional" society. (not saying your wrong, but what are we comparing us too and what is the standard we are looking for?)
This is like that story of the lifeguard who was fired for saving a drowning child on a beach because he stepped outside of his designated area to do so.
I read that story !! What really pissed me off about it - if he hadn't left his 'zone' to save the child and the child drowned; not only would he have been fired but he would have been charged with the child's death and the city would have been sued !!
Lol someone apparently is not aware how you came into this world. Yes you are in fact replaceable as thats how reproduction works. Now the individual in question of a situation of pending end as a unique individual being the self is not. As far as perspective of numbers by population goes, yes very replaceable by method of reproduction. Now this may sound callus and cruel, but lower age is easiest to replace. This is due to the age to fruition time is much less and pushing past 70 range have less value to society by numbers and value alone. Once you see how government and Insurance type systems operate being numbers. A few percent here and there versus printing money are negligible. The system as it is now does not value you nor I as an individual. It values the monetary contribution to cost we apply.
THANK YOU to that fire man. As the mother of the mother of a burn victim who recieved 2nd and 3rd degree burns, he's a hero. At the time, we lived out in the county and it took at least 30 minutes for first responders to get to our area. My son was staying with my ex when it happened and told me it wasn't bad and my son was just "being a baby" about it. It took me 30 minutes to get to my son. I wasn't waiting another 30 minutes for EMS. I saw how bad it was and immediately grabbed my son and left. My son was already in shock. In situations like that, you do what you need to do. YOU DON'T WAIT AROUND!
We are talking about a 2 year old. ANY young child can go into serious shock and die from this kind of trauma. At a certain point, action has to be taken. He took it. EMS was close by - don't know what that means. Not sure even how many times they told the fire captain they were going to be there in a minute. Situational decisions. Props for you making this decision.
I’m a retired Fire Chief, if that was one of my Captains I would have given him an Accommodation. If you read this Sir, that was the right thing to do.
Update : In early 2022 the governor signed a law that would allow firefighters to use their discretion in cases like the Amme case. It was the EMT/ambulance service that complained that lead to the Chief getting let go. I have found no update as to Corey Britt being brought back as Chief.
Imagine being there. Child crying its head off, parents scared shitless, and you're just standing there waiting. Time passes, and you're trying to calm everyone down, soothe the child. Parents asking repeatedly what's going on, why you're just waiting. More time passes, parents looking at you, like you're gonna just let their kid suffer, as you keep glancing at your watch telling them the ambulance will be here, it's on its way. More time passes. Finally you'd just say enough waiting, and you'd go.
Something the guys in the office will never understand. All they can do is sit behind a desk and issue laws and protocols. Lame how the hard working, honest individuals will never get paid enough yet these politicians get paid way more for just making laws and blah blah. So stupid, see how messed up this situation is? Good news though is that more than likely the Captain can just move to a different department and get hired. (Although moving is a big mess etc. but it would be worth it to get back into the fire business!)
@@GamerMason123 couldn't agree more, i work construction, and sometimes we get these college kids coming in with all their book knowledge thinking they know more than god, and think they can argue with my dad, whos been doing the business for 35 frickin years. every god damn time they go ahead with their oh so smart plan, they come crying to my dad "oooh what did we do wrong waaahhh it all should have worked!!!" and my dad's just like "well if you did what i asked you to from the beginning, maybe you wouldn't have to pay EVERYONE to come in and redo everything." i swear these college nuts and office workers think theyre gods or some shit
That is the exact problem I HATE in my country. We too have this worker/ office idiot situation but they call it the “white hat thinks, blue hat executes” BS. God I hate this entitlement of these people. And in every situation you are the donkey if anything doesn’t work.
I can totally relate. where in work there are countless things that should be different for things to run smoothly. but since the owners are constantly are the store they have the say if they want things done differently. it's like of the people who sat behind desks accually.listened to the people who do the work there wouldnt be this mess of them thinking they know what's best. there would be a harmony and a better flow of things.
I've sat with burns victims, for longer than twenty five minutes, unable to help as they were buried under a building. We got to them as safely and quickly as we could. I still have nightmares about that one.
Absolutely would have done the same. worked in EMS for 36 years, broke many rules, document, let supervisors know, don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness.
The Capt. did the right thing- regs or no regs. The young child needed immediate care. The Dept. Chief should have his back on this one, so should the ER doctors.
Me, as the mom/guardian in that situation: “thank you throwing all the protocol out the window and having compassion above and beyond the line of duty; for transporting my kid to the hospital yourself. While I’m sure you all care, it means everything to me that you didn’t stop there bc ‘procedure.’ I made you gratitude cookies. I hope you like them. It isn’t enough to thank you to the depths I feel in my soul, but it was something more than nothing.”
If that was my baby, I would say, "Let's load and go." My vehicle or yours. He's got lights and sirens and training. He just saved a life. Good for him. We need more people like that
They can still provide care for you, most firefighters are EMTs or paramedics themselves. I'd also think (well, hope) the department would look the other way if the patient's condition was life threatening, but who knows in this day and age.
@@Jomskylark second degree burns can be life threatening. It depends how many (percentage) area is burnt. Toddlers are small so they easily get a high percentage of burnt skin area. (I hope everybody understands what I'm trying to say, English is a foreign language for me)
I'm from OKC. The 1st to arrive at the scene of any emergency is almost ALWAYS the fire dept. The ambulance is usually the 2nd to show up and the police, unless they happen to be very close, or by chance pull up on a scene, are the last to arrive. There are times when the ambulance is the 1st to arrive at a scene, but most generally, 1st to arrive to an emergency is the fire dept.
When I was in high school a 14 year old freshmen walked into the school nurse's office complain of a bad head ache and feeling "really weird." The nurse took one look at the girl and knew right away she didn't have time to wait for an ambulance. She put the girl into her own car and drove her to the ER, speeding, running red lights and stop signs, and got the girl to the hospital intime to save her life. She was having a stroke and would have died if the nurse called an ambulance. What the nurse did was *VERY* against not only school rules, it was against the law. But this was in 1986, so instead of punishing the nurse, they honored her. Sometimes, circumstances override the rules and even the law. Did you know *ANYONE* can run red lights and disregard speed limits and stop signs provided there is an actual emergency. You have to be careful, but it is not illegal in an emergency. Don't drive recklessly, be careful, but you can break the rules sometimes.
Great story, but not sure why you felt the need to say, "but this was in 1986." The US is so large and state policies so different that there is no one standard opinion on how to deal with the situation: that's the whole reason people are outraged, just like they would have been decades ago. Most in the comments can think of an instance where an emergency service disobeyed traffic laws even recently. This sounds like just a bad decision by a few office administrators, not The Entire Government trying to punish this guy.
When we realized I was in labor at 24 weeks, we knew there was no chance of getting an ambulance in time, since we lived 30 minutes from the nearest hospital. My husband did about 80 mph down the highway to get me there. We got into traffic at a red light once we hit town, but realized the car in the next lane was a cop. My husband threw the car in park and jumped out, yelling to the cop what was happening. Turns out there was an unmarked cop car behind us. They gave us an escort through town to the hospital. Our sweet boy was born 5 minutes after we got there. Sadly he was stillborn, but at least we were in the hospital, which means my kids weren't in the room and traumatized any more than they already were, and I had medical people all around. Even though they couldn't do anything to save him, they were there, which means I don't ask the question the rest of my life, 'would he have lived if I'd been at the hospital'. Thank goodness for my husband being skilled at driving, and those cops for thinking quickly to get us across town.
Did you know that if you ask a police officer, if anyone can break traffic laws when there is an actual emergency, that officer would tell you no. Only those with emergency lights on can do so. Did you know that if you answer that question on your L permit traffic test, you'll fail the exam, if you say its okay to break the laws in an actual emergency? Did you know that if the girl had died, instead of lived, that the nurse would have been in a completely different set of circumstances? So, remember, if someone is having an actual emergency and they blow a red light and collide into you... then by your logic, you can't sue them or their insurance, because it was an emergency. Even if they killed your two kids and paralyzed you, when they collided with you. Because they were having an actual emergency. No. No... No! Anyone who follows this person's advice is not going to get off Scott free, especially if by their actions they cause an emergency. A cop might be willing to escort you to the hospital... after they pull you over and give you a ticket for violating the law, but you are still going to have to pull over otherwise it will be a high speed chase and you'll be facing jail time. Do the smart thing and plan ahead. The traffic laws are there to protect everyone, and you disregarding them because you didn't plan ahead, and driving like a maniac to avoid an emergency, often causes an emergency. I really wonder how many of those videos online of people blowing the red lights at 30+ the speed limit and cause a massive horrific car accident are people like this person that doesn't plan ahead.
My youngest sister is 5, turning 6 in March. If she had 2nd degree burns and we were waiting on the ambulance for that long, and this man made the call he did, truck it, I'd raise hell and clog up phone lines till he got his job back, with a significant increase in pay. I salute him.
I started out as a volunteer firefighter and ambulance driver. I worked as an EMT for 20 years in Montgomery Alabama. If we weren't at the scene in 15 minutes. The ambulance service would pay a fine and could be cut from the rotation. There were three ambulance services in the town. What they did to him was wrong. That ambulance service should be held responsible.
@@renn0k402 but the gorvenment didn't own that ambulance it was a private ambulance who are the ones who snichted most likly cos they are the ones who profit off people calling them.
Thank you for your content and I appreciate your service. Do I have to give props to the Multnomah county sheriff's department in Oregon. For amazingly having an off-duty deputy help to save my life in Zigzag Oregon. A tragic drinking and driving event. But only so far as all three occupants of the vehicle survived me being one of them. I'm the only one that didn't technically dead. It was an approximately 1983. Maybe two. User resources call up the Zigzag fire department pull the file. Not my first miracle. But one of the absolute best. Thanks again for being brave firefighters. And first responders no matter what. ❤🇺🇲💯👍⚖️
Much respect to all of you life savers! They don't safe lives because it's their job, they save lives because it's their purpose. They're our guardian angels, and when it comes to a case of life an death, they are willing to risk everything. And if they need to brake "the rules" to safe a live, (even with the risk of losing their own life, or in this case their job. Or being umiliated on the news for following your gut), they show that they care more for the people in need, than about themselves. So in my opinionz théy are the réal superhero's! Bless you all! Thankyou for your service; saving our lives, keeping us save & and caring for the ones in need.🙌👏🙏
Who is "they"? It would be the public getting mad at him in that case, not the department and city. You're conflating two different groups of people and crying hypocrisy.
@@VogtTD No, actually sfergel is not. Because when the public got pissed and came after the upper staff "they" would throw everyone else under the bus passing the blame. It happens all the time.
For those wondering, as of yesterday (November 1st, 2022), state law has changed as a direct result of this incident, and now allows for this to happen "in special circumstances". It was requested of lawmakers by the OKCFD, and boy was the action fact. As for the fire fighter, as far as I can find, while he did lose his leadership position at the station, he did not receive demotion, termination, any loss of pay, or suspension
I wonder how much he saved Oklahoma from a lawsuit that begins: the fire dept stood around and did nothing because they didn’t want to get disciplined for driving. Kudos to all Firemen and paramedics that risk their lives to help us.
Yes!!! Seriously!!! I would have been beyond furious watching idiots wait for an ambulance!! I definitely would have sued and made a huge stink over it.
@@brandondefend5442 He is probably being disciplined for breaking a State law! rightly or wrongly, Bureaucrats hate seeing people break laws even for just purposes.
@@inconnu4961The issue is that it relies on good judgement, and not dickheaded patients and family when it comes to money and debt. Relying on that, is like praying the sunrise comes 2 hours earlier. Probably the least realistic action available, even if Heaven is the only place you could actually find that possibility.
Most importantly, that type of first responder who puts the needs of the victims first, and makes the best of the resources available to most optimumally meet the needs of those victims is exactly the type of assistance people hope is on the way when they dial 9-1-1.
This is so dumb. He used an emergency vehicle to transport a child to receive medical care. He was trying to get the child there before the "golden hour" was up. This Captain deserves a raise and promotion..
Ma'man indeed. Having lived in the Us for 4 years I've learned how following rules is one of the topmost things expected from everyone in the land of the free. Where we lived they had rules as to which clothes lines we could and couldn't use. That one, among a few other idiotic, petty stuff, stuck with me like a splinter in the eye. This fire captain should have been asked to be a consultant to city hall or even to the state on how to be a human being.
I would totally stand behind that man 100% if I was his supervisor. He most likely saved the child's life and deserves a medal!! Thank you all first responders ❤
@@jacktattersall9457 He was probably waiting as long as possible to follow the rules so that he didn't have happen what eventually happened anyway. Until he decided "you know what, these laws fucking blow" and realized the toddler's life was more important than some old coward that made the rule.
@@thanesgames9685 ...if you were any more ignorant you'd be drooling. Depending on the area and how much of it is burned treatment can range from simply applying burn creams all the way to skin grafting surgery. Let's also not forget that this was a toddler of 2 years old. If this firefighter...a veteran of the job who most likely has exponentially more experience with burns than you do...decided that this situation was serious enough that he was going to break the "rules" and transport the victim himself then I'm willing to bet he knew what was going on. Do everyone a favor and grow a brain before sounding off again, copy?
that Captain is a can do man , knows how to take charge, that baby has a 100% chance of an excellent recovery from those burns. The captain is and man that his fellow officers can be proud of & look up to & work with.
As an Oklahoma City resident and the son of first responders, I'm proud to have this man serving my city, and can only hope that public outcry over his unjust treatment by the higher-ups motivates them to reinstate him and clear his record of any wrongdoing.
@ChaoticAngelKitten according to reports the law that he violated was overturned and the department he works for and his unions said in a statement that his discipline did not include demotion, termination or loss of pay. It sounds like they put on a performitive show of slapping him on the wrist because they had to. The public outcry caused reforms to the rules and they emt administration admitted they were understaffed and struggling to keep up because of covid regulations causing delays to patients.
That fire captain should not lose his job or be disciplined. He went above and beyond. I applaud him.
beyond what he is allowed to do.
@@DellikkilleD Ah yes. First responders should just stand around and watch a person die, who they would otherwise have the capacity to save just because the protocol says that's the way it has to be done. Boy, I hope you aren't in a position of power in your municipality!
@@DellikkilleDyou are an insensitive, unbelievably ignorant person for these comments. I refuse to believe you wouldn’t do the same thing placed in the same situation, and if you really let that child suffer any longer than that captain had, you truly are a heartless person. Life over protocol. Period.
@@DellikkilleD and did his job: "Preserving life" in the wake of it.
Sometimes rules need to be broken. Period.
@@DellikkilleD "Sorry, guys, I cannot transport your grieviously injured child which is in excruciating pain in my vehicle, it is against the rules. But I'll give you my thoughts and prayers" is NOT appropriate.
My wild guess is: If he hadn't transported that child that way he would've been chastised for not doing it and sticking to the rules.
Sometimes you cannot win because the one in charge are assholes.
“Rules are made for perfect situations; it’s for the Captain to make them fit the imperfect ones.” Captain James Kirk. This Captain lived that sentiment.
Hell yea!
Amen. When in doubt, quote THE captain.
Hell yeah, Captain Kirk was never more right
Exactly.
It’s a TV scriptwriter’s take on a WW2 quote from an RAF fighter pilot, Sir Douglas Bader…. "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men"
Last time i checked, its called being a FIRST responder. He was there, he responded first. He did his job perfectly.
My grandaddy was a firefighter. It was against protocol back then for them to share their air supply when doing rescues, but he could never stand to see a child suffer and shared his air supply often. He ended up with emphysema from the repeated smoke inhalations but never regretted it for a second, because in many cases, sharing his air meant the difference between a child making it out alive. No one should be penalized for giving their all to ease the suffering of another person.
This is a really tough one.
If he didn't share his air, the child could have died or had live long illness.
But if he did, there is a chance he could have lost consciousness and got himself and the child killed.
I am happy he was able to save him and is alive, good in him.
@@pianissimo7121 he probably knew how to do the sharing business of oxygen, which is not easy and he probably has the emphysema because even small particles can cause emphysema what happens is the lungs get damaged over a period of time any firefighter can get that by the way, not just one that is sharing his oxygen to save person’s life.
What your granddad or dad did I can’t remember if it’s granddad or dad at this point it’s too early in the morning was the right thing to do, but that’s the problem though isn’t it sometimes you do the right thing and you get punished for it and it’s wrong Just plain wrong.
Even in my police department, our supervisors had a conversation with us when we started getting 1 hour+ ambulance delays in a MAJOR city. The conversation went: "I can't tell you to transport a seriously injured child or any other individual in your patrol car, but you do what you need to do". First responders didn't swear an oath to follow dumb ass policies, we swore an oath to preserve life.
Might need to remind some of your fellow officers of this…
My father-in-law benefited from this sort of action. He slipped and fell last winter in his driveway, breaking his femur. A city worker saw it and called it in, city police showed up for the 911, but EMS was going to be 40 minutes because of the volume of calls they had on due to the crap conditions. Cop made the decision to get him in the car and take him to the hospital, which was contrary to normal procedures, but he received kudos for doing the right thing.
God bless you
@@Capt.Pikles Thank you for bringing completely irrelevant commentary to this otherwise positive thread.
@@agirlnamedmichael1670 seems pretty relevant when so many pigs go out of their way to violate the rights of people, gun down individuals for no reason, or otherwise betray the badge and the community they serve.
He chose to save a live over the potential of losing his job. Respect.
He chose to save a life. He never even thought about the "rules". "Rules" never crossed his mind.
He did his job and saved a life.
He is a HERO.
But, my guess is he doesn't look at himself as a hero. He looks at it as he was just doung what needed to be done.
But, did he, though? Or did he endanger a life by transporting a pediatric patient with non-life-threatening injuries without an adequate method of securing said pediatric patient in the vehicle?
@@DominickWalenczak Grow up. He was there, you weren't.
Let's have a rational discussion. Can you find data to support the notion that a 1 - 10 minute difference makes a clinically significant difference in a patient with partial thickness burns over the lower extremities? And enough of a difference to risk bodily harm or death to the patient by transporting them without adequate age-appropriate restraints? Part of growing up is the ability to calmly and logically examine the situation and provide the best calculated approach.
@@DominickWalenczak well considering being asked by a small, hurting child "When is help coming, it hurts" or "please make the pain go away"
Its tough making the logical and protocol decision as an emotional, irrational being(human)
My husband and I recently obtained our CPR AED in a fire department. It was explained to us that the AHA doesn’t teach or recommend mouth to mouth anymore because of blood-borne disease. The instructor clarified, “You all have to decide for yourselves, but I’m telling you right now, as a father, if a four year old needs mouth to mouth, I’m providing mouth to mouth.” We all nodded effusively, clearly deciding the same thing.
First responders do what they do because they care about people, about strangers. I already think there isn’t enough protection for them when they have all the best intentions and something goes wrong. Nothing even went wrong here! He’s being punished because “the rules”, written non-specifically to cover every one of a thousand scenarios, say to wait for an ambulance, assuming a standard response time.
Disgusting.
If there is a petition or anything to help this man, please reply with it so I can sign it.
if that were me and i lost my job over it, i wouldve said, "In all universes, and all realities, i wouldve still done the same thing and i would not regret one second of it."
100% agree, for those of you who don’t work in EMS, we have a rule called the “Golden Hour” meaning from time of injury you have one hour to the victim to surgical correction, otherwise their chance of making a good recovery droops off drastically. 24 minutes waiting for the ambulance, plus the fire engine’s own response time to the scene they were already halfway through the Golden Hour, that captain made the exact correct choice, thinking of the patient care first. Wish I could shake his hand too.
Every minute truly matters. If the team that responded to my roommate’s panicked 5am call had waited for the old, broken elevator to get to our floor… I don’t know what would have happened. Instead, one of the paramedics decided to just carry me down the stairs. I later found out he was alarmed at how underweight I was. He should not have been able to carry me so easily… In that lizard-brain state, I was attempting to bite anyone who touched me.
Most of the views we hard are from field personally lets look at this from a leadership stand point. So are you calling 2nd degree burns surgical correctable? The ambulance was disregarded when near by? How would this story read if that Childs airway would have swelled shut and died while being transported on a illegal unsanctioned vehicle? Did this action break any laws? Could the Captain and the fire department be held criminally liable? Could the captain be subjected to a medical review and possible lose his license, better yet could the fire department be fined and or suspended by the state medical board? I think the fire department had no choice but to act in the manner for which it did. So why does it take EMS so long to arrive? obviously I don't have that answer, but why is that EMS makes 80 % of the runs and we are not will to an ambulance in every fire station and then cry when response time are so long? I remember when fire departments did not even want to go to medical calls and they now have taken the moral high ground.
Don't forget the time wasted by people not calling 911 right away, often waiting for someone else to do it. The clock starts ticking at the moment of the incident, not when the call goes through, and he had no way of knowing how long people had stood around with their thumb up their behind before deciding to call. This guy should be getting a medal, not a reprimand.
Waiting 24 minutes… sweet Jesus you’re not supposed to be on scene for more than 10 without a damn good reason.
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kent simon Cope harder.
Capt can rest peacefully at night knowing he saved that child from any further, unnecessary suffering, screw every last superior who didn't stick up for him.
Yep! They should all be embarrassed and looking into why it took so damn long for an ambulance to show up
@@Beandiptheredneck all the ambulances were probably on toe pain calls when this call went out and the closest ambulance was across town. I have had that happen on a infant CPR, thank God we got there and it was a baby with a cough.
Yup, a perfect example of what Is wrong with the world is exhibited by the subject of this video. This is just stupid.
This comment has more likes than the video
Just Google "Oklahoma City firefighter qualifications" the fourth bullet point on Google says the must be a Licensed EMT by the end of their probie year, so that means not only was this officer a seasoned medical provider so were multiple others on that fire rig and made a transport decision as such. If they weren't required to have an EMT level medical training and only CFR or lower I could see this reaction from the higher ups holding some water, but this is a fresh steaming pile of 💩 otherwise.
As a nurse, I have nothing but highest praises for this compassionate, wonderful man, great job Captain!
Everyone in the comments is saying how incredible that fire captain was. They're absolutely right. But I also want to say, what an incredible speech this was
If I were the parents, I'd be in the chief's office, the city council's faces, the mayor's office demanding he be reinstated.
Came to post this. Well said.
Spot on 👍👍👍
Me too
@@ryanmedic789 What the hell are you talking about? Filthy vehicle? WHAT?!
@@ryanmedic789 What kind of back ass fire dept doesn’t have sterile water and burn sheets on their suppression pieces? I can promise you that a major department like OKC would....
Sad when being an American hero is less important than an insurance clause.
That’s the world we’ve inherited. The world that is lawsuit-hungry and lawsuit-fearful.
Probably not insurance. The ambulance company has a contract. If fire is transporting people the ambulance company doesn’t get paid.
@@AlphanumericCharacters Actually that's exactly the reason . Its simply a meat industry. There is no caring or compassion for the victims. They are only seen as money in the pocket
Yep! Corporate first. People never.
They can’t charge for an ambulance ride if he’s transported in a fire truck.
He is an angel, the department could not deliver what was needed at the moment, and they are lucky to have him, so is the child, and the entire community.
One thing I learned in 36+ years of working for the Federal Government is that sometimes you have to figure out what rule to break. You try to pick the one that does the least damage if things go sideways. I applaud this Captain for doing exactly that.
The one dislike is his Safety Officer.
😂😂😂😂😂
Well there must be 5 now...
6 other people are in Australia.
@@Zakatak-mf4iq huh? From Australia with love.
Nah as a SO I'd say he did the right thing.
"You are being charged a $2,000 fine and will be released of your duties for saving a burnt child's life" - The prosecutors/judge probably
"Thank you for saving the child's life!" - The child, parents, fellow firefighters, EMTs, and normal people who appreciate what this man has done
He didn't commit a crime, he broke a policy. Prosecutors and judges have no say in the matter. A lot of policies actually break the law. Even if he did commit a crime, he can use the defense of necessity. For example, if you're in the middle of nowhere with no way to contact emergency services but there's a parked car that isn't yours, you may legally "borrow" it if doing so is necessary to save someone's life. A more common example is going slightly over the speed limit and running red lights when a pregnant woman is about to give birth and you need to drive her to the hospital. The defense of necessity doesn't apply if you're driving recklessly though. Basically, it has to be reasonable.
then the policy is shit and can AND SHOULD be changed
stop defending these absolutely moronic bureaucracies.
@@Accrovideogames
@@Accrovideogames wrong. Policies when deemed needed can be broken. Laws and rules are written and not universal laws.
if judge says "you caused no harm, parents not pressing charges and had very good reason to act like this therefor you will be just getting a slap on cheek, you are relived from duty for 1 week and gonna work under supervision for a month, case dismissed"
goverment has rights to dismiss any charge that is not charged by other people, they just choose to not do it
Every person in the city should have protested in front of the HQ ! That could have been their child, their grandchild, their niece or nephew !
Everyone, including you would've been up in arms if the fire truck crashed and the baby was further injured or even killed. Then you would be citing negligence on the part of this chief, the family would've sued the fire station, the chief and the city (and won) and now the tax payers are on the hook for another multi million dollar payout. The rules are there to avoid that lawsuit. I don't agree with it, it's just fact. If judges and Juries would do a better job at throwing BS lawsuits out, this wouldn't be an issue.
Policy is for guidance, not blind obedience.
The fire Captain is a Captain because he has been deemed to have the experience and judgment to handle situations where policy doesn't tick off all the boxes.
I live with chronic pain, regularly puking, and thank God for him. That poor child was suffering that man was like enough is enough, this child needs help now. I don’t wish my pain on another, and I cannot imagine the pain that poor child was in either. And others pointed out that delayed care increases risk of infection and I have cleaned enough wounds and watched enough people deal with sepsis to cheer this man on to make sure that the child is less likely to get any of that. Children want to be firefighters because of the goodness in their heart to help people and save lives, and he’s emblematic of that virtue.
As a retired ER nurse I applaud this man. Not only did his fatherly instincts kick in but his life saving instincts and his “it’s the right thing to do” instincts. This child was undoubtedly in pain, dehydrated, and possible airway concerns. Rules are rules for reasons, but when it comes down to lives the rules don’t ALWAYS apply. This man should be made captain somewhere.
Rules that have no flexibility are the reason for so many problems with the country. Here is just another one that does not live in the real world and was put together by people who could not think outside their own bubble. Good work Captain.
#facts he should b capt somewhere!!! he is a role model
Amen. And those above him who fired him need to be gone.
I've always loved the line: "The most well laid plan never survives the enemy." In this case you could picture the rules as the plan and the enemy as the emergency situation. You can never plan for every single possible situation or the book of rules will become so thick it's unreadable. The process of emergency life saving care should be follow the rules but when the rules fail do what is necessary to get the patient to the doctors.
Many rules are rules because somebody in a fancy suit was a dick. Many more are rules because some stuffed shirt needed to show they were still "doing something" to avoid being fired for utter worthlessness. I wish I had a way to figure out the exact percentage. I bet if I could, it would horrify us.
He’s a hero. Rules are meant to be broken within reason, he did exactly what anyone with a good heart would’ve done!
The difference between a good medic and a great medic is knowing when to break protocol (with clinical backing)
@@calebnation7797 exactly as a nurse I did it a few times, arguing with doctors when I knew I was right but they were sitting on their ass. I only ever fought when I knew I was 100% correct and could back everything up but I also knew doing it I could likely lose my job or be disciplined and have it follow me my whole career
I’ve always said rules are for the general, sense is for the specific.
Just proof that government is generally useless and cause more issues than they claim to solve.
Good man!
I can say as a parent (and my husband happens to be an EMT) that if my child had died or been severely disabled because they were “following protocol” instead of literally saving my kid, I would raise hell.
Hell hath no fury like a protective mother.
Has anyone pointed out how much pain and fear the 2 year old must have been in? Waiting 20 minutes must have been EXCRUCIATING for everyone who was there! That he had he discipline to wait THAT long in order to follow protocol is in itself a testament to his self discipline! Bravo, Captain.
That ought to have been seen as evidence of his respect for, and willingness to adhere to the rules.
It's absolutely sickening that the higher-ups within his agency didn't defend him. Shame on those cowards. Bravo to the hero fire fighter, as well as to anyone within his agency that had the courage and decency to go to bat for him.
And at only 2, this was probably literally the worst thing that poor kid has ever experienced. The Absolute Worst Day of their Entire Life so far. Every minute probably felt like hours.
I've had 2nd degree burns twice in my lifetime. The superficial nerve fibers flash fry, so initially the pain isn't so bad...no where near what it'll be after 20 minutes. The chief was watching the child suffer more and more, knowing it wasn't going to get better until he reached an ER. Knowing the risk of infection was going up by the minute.
@shycat5028
Good news is, since it happened when they're only 2, they won't be able to remember how horrendous it was when they're older
@@gingermcgingin4106
That is false, even toddlers can be able to rememeber traumatic events.
worst thing is that if if was just some random guy in a truck driving the child to the ER nothing would have happened... due to rules the firefighters can't do shit in this situation...
Sure they can; you just have to be ready for the repercussions
@@Scott___T there shouldn't be repercussions in this situation or in similar situations.
@@Scott___T it is that simple
@@Scott___T and thats the problem... in such situation you should never have to make the decision of keeping your job or saving someones life... Thats the problems with such regulations.
As i said if a civilian would have done this there would have been no legal action but if a team of medical professionals without a transportation license does it they face repurcussions...
@@AHolst-ec7kn That Capt will sleep soundly at night knowing he made the right call. Probably shouldn't have cancelled EMS and probably should have asked for an intercept but; if they didn't show up to the scene they weren't going to meet them on the road. At this point his brothers know he did the right thing. Their respect probably means more to him than anything his COC can do.
I am in EMS and have already decided that if doing the right thing means getting fired then so be it. I am with you man.
This man waited 15 minutes longer than I would. Hero comes to mind, I believe ‘Thank You’ is the phrase they were looking for.
Yeah, this captain did the right thing. I hope he gets reinstated.
And gets the biggest raise in history
The report online states he was not fired, demoted, or had loss of pay. He was just removed from the role he was in. The Union was 100% on his side
Well, at least he can sleep at night and look himself in the mirror and know that he did the right thing. There’s nothing worse than seeing a child injured or in pain and there’s nothing that can be done. He at least did what he could to ease that child’s pain.
And I hope this inspires a change to the rules.
If it was me, I'd immediately quit after the reinstatement, and tell them where to put it.
I stand with the firefighter. Get rid of whoever is complaining and causing him problems.
Exactly..... It's like they are saying how dare he put the well-being of a human being above our rules.... Pretty sick
@@abcdefgabcdefg720 yes it is. His actions saved a life. Where is any fairness in this at all?
@@donnawest1126 I hate to sound like Bieber..... But what do you mean
@@abcdefgabcdefg720 I am saying the firefighter waited over 20 minutes for an ambulance with a baby that had 2nd degree burns then took the child in the vehicle to the hospital. The firefighter should be a hero. The rules would not matter had it been one of their own kids. In some rare cases rules can be broken for the greater good. Saving a child is as good as it gets. What was the hold up with an ambulance? Does anyone know?
@@donnawest1126 Apparently the ambulance that was called was on the other side of town and was stuck in traffic but don't quote me on that I may be wrong.
He may have upset the executives, the politicians & the suits who spend their days clean, in air conditioned offices but he earned the respect of every hardworking grunt in the trenches!
My Grandmother always said. "IF you can DO!". perfect example right there. He knew the exact repercussions of his actions, but the life and pain of a child mattered more than any of them. This reminds me of that lifeguard that got fired because he saved a drowning victim outside of his designated zone.
He’s a hero. Following policies when it could hurt someone is wrong. The captain is a hero!!!!
But sadly that is slowly becoming the norm.... If it looks or sounds good.... Who cares if people get hurt....it's all about the rules....not what is right or compassionate
@Everett Padgett how do you get left vs.right from this ? The fact is simple this isn't political this is about the letter of the law which is what's being used against him vs. the spirit of the law which is how the law should be applied. In this case this man did the moral thing and the law which was most likely written to curtail use of the equipment for personal conveyance was used to punish. Laws are not moral they are rules usually put into place to make people more ethical, but they are rarely ever based in morality. This man should not be punished and those who live in the town where this happened need to pressure their respective councils and Mayor as well as county commissioners to reinstate him in fact take it to a state level if necessary. In no way is this a left or right thing. That line of thinking is exactly what has lead to the rancor and division enough is enough.
Rules are made to control the reckless, that man wasn’t reckless, he’s heroic and should be respected as such. Genuine props to him
@Soopy! 100%!!
There is an exception to almost every rule. That’s why people in charge need to really think about each situation and how the rules apply. This wasn’t reckless or self serving or done by amateurs. This is firemen rescuing lives!
You know, I don't agree with many people on the internet but dammit that is exactly how I feel about rules too.
Naw rule was made to dodge responsability if kid died in the firetruck or something it opens the fire departnemnt up for a lawsuit if kid dies on a sidewalk its like oh well ambulance was busy they dont give a shit about the kids life only the money they could be sued for
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I watched a video with four cops taking a major electricity shock and burn victim to the hospital in a cruiser, as ambulance wasn't there yet.
True heroes just like that captain!!
He has done a very heroic job, if I could, I definitely would shake his hands for being such an awesome person and making a great decision in order to save the poor child’s life. He actually deserves to be honored and deserves to get a medal for that job
This guy shouldn’t have gotten reprimanded he should have been rewarded
He did. He had time off and got paid for it.
That's only if you have a conscience and care about well being of others
@@barnabybot but he got demoted
This shit is what happens when city bean counters make policy.
@@barnabybot please stop sounding stupid....please🙄
"The paramedics say they were nearby." Right. Guy probably saved the city a couple hundred thousand dollar lawsuit loss. 20 minute delay on ambulance arrival is a MAJOR failure of the system. That's three deaths long.
Theyll blame it on covid
@@alhen9023 the upper command of OKC FD did exactly that in a news article. Cv was blamed as well as short staffing bc of cv.
@@somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway but then they should say that, ok, because of covid the system failed, so we're happy that this guy did what he did, despite it being against protocol
"Umm? Oh a child died while we were getting tacos? Ummm Covid, yeah we are such short staff right now because of it. Try suing the disease for the death of your only child."
The real heroes is the firefighter and the EMS was busy doing other things, must of confused their current job with their 2nd job as an Uber driver.
Ain't that 4 deaths?
Sometimes the rules don't indicate the morally RIGHT thing to do. This man is a hero.
I'm speaking as someone who suffered the same thing as the young girl he rescued.
I, too, had 2nd degree burns all over me when I was a toddler. Time was of the essence and because I was rushed to the hospital immediately, I came out fine with no scars, no lasting problems.
Way late here, and stupid long reply incoming, but thank you Jason for not pointing fingers or placing blame directly and solely on the EMSA ambulance drivers. In this case, EMSA as a whole *was* to blame since it was the company politics that started the entire complaint against Corey Britt (firefighter that made the decision to transport the child), and EMSA had been getting slower and slower to respond around the city throughout the pandemic due to Covid itself as well as staffing issues, but the EMSA EMT/Paramedics themselves in this particular event were not to blame. They were just people trying to do their jobs during a shit show of a time in the world.
This was when the Covid19 pandemic was still causing countless issues around the world. During this time, hospitals were extremely overcrowded and ambulances often found themselves having to wait outside hospitals with patients still in the vehicle because there were no available beds. This could result in wait times of 4 hours or more before they could respond to additional calls. This put a massive strain on many, many medical facilities around the country especially in larger cities like Oklahoma City which has more than 1,000 firefighters and 38 different stations, not counting their EMS and contracted EMSA departments.
Yes, the child was an absolute high priority call, but in some cases during the pandemic times, there was simply no way to hurry up the process when all ambulance units are currently on a run. The options are pretty much sit and wait for room in the hospital to open up and hope against hope it happens quickly, or kick your current patient out of the ambulance and make them sit on a street corner somewhere. Or, in this case, take matters into your own hands and get the child to the hospital in the best way you can when time is of the essence.
After this incident, OKC changed their related regulations. Senate Bill 1515 passed on November 1, 2022 and allows a certified emergency medical response agency to provide limited transport in an emergency vehicle after receiving the approval of appropriate medical control, even if that vehicle or company is not made for patient transport... as was the case in this particular situation with Fire Station 34s Corey Britt.
I'm so glad we changed things after the situation (Oki native, here). Still sad to see he lost his job over it and was likely never reinstated after the bill passed, though. Or, I assume at least, considering no news was ever reported (that I could find) about him being reinstated.
When a man puts the life of another above his own career, knowing that he will likely be disciplined, that is the mark of a true man.
Honor, integrity and courage are what set the few apart from the many.
@mike smith Well said!
I've done just that , many have . Think about it most have all sacrificed one way or another. He will be fine no matter the outcome.
You absolutely right!
You can’t put a price on being able to live with yourself.
Amen, brother!
That's a FACT! Wish more people thought like that. Too many who tout the "humanitarian" principles are the same one who turn against those like the fire captain who live the life of true humanitarians and help those in need.
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Perfect response!!
As a transfer center for hospitals I can tell you we are in a emergency transport crisis! I say give the fire chief a medal !!!!!
Doctor: “Sorry, it’s against policy to treat a burn victim that has not been properly transported. Please take the child back to the scene and call for another ambulance.”
I’m in ems. And your wrong
what he did is amazing and I’m proud of that firefighter and what he did. Until you know what it it’s like to see people suffer like that you can’t understand. Plus that kid need treatment that’s something that can’t wait .
If that was your child with the burns believe me you would have a very different perspective.
@@michiganscountrygirl6630 An EMS should be intelligent enough to spot sarcasm.
If those politicians showed up at hospital in life or death critical condition. Then Dr. Said sorry can't treat you till paperwork filled out. Oh I don't have insurance info go hame and get it. They would sure change policy very quickly. Or if it was their loved one.
@@generalralph6291 may she rest in pieces.
This is bullshit. He should be hailed a hero, and giving a raise. They need to get this rule out of there. Give the hero back his job. He did what he was supposed to do. Save the life of a 2 year old, which he did. If anything the EMS DEPT Should be answering questions as to why it took over 20 minutes to get there and transport the patient. BRAVO WELL DONE... I APPLAUD YOU.. and you shouldn't lose your job over it. Get a life to the people who fired the fireman.. He is a HERO.. LET THE HERO SERVE
What a lot of people are overlooking and the reason we have policies like these is when something like this does happen and things dont turn out well the parents then sue and probably win a big settlement. People are shitty and always look for someone else to blame.
You likely said the answer the EMS took over 20 mins, they could be looking for an out by blaming the fire dpt.
@@Inbal_Feuchtwanger If it was my child and things had ended badly, I would have sued EMS for failing to respond in a timely manner.
@@Inbal_Feuchtwanger Yeah, well that's a risk they all take as first responders. The problem is the system allowing a lawsuit to be carried out against a first responder that did the right thing. The excuse you're making doesn't excuse the fact that they relieved this HERO of his duty for doing the right thing. I get that you're only looking at it from the view of a liability standpoint but, it's still not a viewpoint of a logical person that sees it from a human perspective. I bet this man's superiors would be begging for their child to be transported, by any means necessary, if the EMS were not showing up for 20+ minutes. The fear of a lawsuit? Then they wouldn't show up and transport ANYONE at all.
You said exactly what I want too say 👍👍👍
My son wanted to be a cop, he did a co-op with the police when he was in high-school. After that he was like NOPE, I want to be the person people run to not the person people run from. Hes in school now to become a fireman. 100% the better option for him.
To this gentleman, and you sir are a gentleman, as a firefighter I would want you in our corner, helping our family. What a wonderful thing you did. I have such great respect for you because you didn’t just stand by and allow that baby to suffer and boy was she suffering, you thought of the child before consequences. From the bottom of my of my heart…Thank you! 💐
This is the society we live in, a firefighter waited 24 mins for an ambulance to help a two year old with 2nd degree burns, AND HE IS BEING SCOLDED?! society can’t change if we don’t change
I feel ya Bro. I agree with this sentiment. Went to a single vehicle accident, there was a fight and bloke was killing the other guy. Only to get told off, and reprimanded for getting involved and stopping one bloke kill another because the police were still 10 mins away.
It's a crazy, crazy world...
@Drew Jones this is a serious situation, he thinks to himself while reading that comment, but he is trying to act serious with smirk on his face
@Paul Martin inferior to what? What is your standard for a "functional" society. (not saying your wrong, but what are we comparing us too and what is the standard we are looking for?)
Right! Total bullshit.
Rule nazis man
This is like that story of the lifeguard who was fired for saving a drowning child on a beach because he stepped outside of his designated area to do so.
The people who fired that lifeguard should be sentensed to an hour of waterboarding and indentured for life in service to the saved kid...
@@SonsOfLorgar why would the kid want people like that around? ;-)
@@zyeborm true
@@zyeborm So he can enjoy being called "Massa" for life. :)
I read that story !! What really pissed me off about it - if he hadn't left his 'zone' to save the child and the child drowned; not only would he have been fired but he would have been charged with the child's death and the city would have been sued !!
Your level of appreciation for this man is absolutely appropriate!
Jobs can be replaced - Lives can not. Kudos to this Captain... May he be an example for others that follow his footsteps.
Lol someone apparently is not aware how you came into this world. Yes you are in fact replaceable as thats how reproduction works. Now the individual in question of a situation of pending end as a unique individual being the self is not. As far as perspective of numbers by population goes, yes very replaceable by method of reproduction.
Now this may sound callus and cruel, but lower age is easiest to replace. This is due to the age to fruition time is much less and pushing past 70 range have less value to society by numbers and value alone. Once you see how government and Insurance type systems operate being numbers. A few percent here and there versus printing money are negligible. The system as it is now does not value you nor I as an individual. It values the monetary contribution to cost we apply.
wonder how many lives lost for actually following rules
@@BrokeAgain Ask the good germans.
“Be a patient advocate” & “Do not delay transport” are backbones of our training and operation.
For real. Why are we penalized for doing our jobs?
Push back. Hard.
Lawsuits it is only ways idiotic rules change. He is a hero
THANK YOU to that fire man. As the mother of the mother of a burn victim who recieved 2nd and 3rd degree burns, he's a hero. At the time, we lived out in the county and it took at least 30 minutes for first responders to get to our area. My son was staying with my ex when it happened and told me it wasn't bad and my son was just "being a baby" about it. It took me 30 minutes to get to my son. I wasn't waiting another 30 minutes for EMS. I saw how bad it was and immediately grabbed my son and left. My son was already in shock. In situations like that, you do what you need to do. YOU DON'T WAIT AROUND!
Is your son ok now?
We are talking about a 2 year old. ANY young child can go into serious shock and die from this kind of trauma. At a certain point, action has to be taken. He took it. EMS was close by - don't know what that means. Not sure even how many times they told the fire captain they were going to be there in a minute. Situational decisions. Props for you making this decision.
"they claim they were near by" i seriously doubt that.
They weren't close by 15min ago when they should have arrived
10000
One would think that in the modern age of technology and wireless communication coordinating something like that should be easy and automatic
I’m a retired Fire Chief, if that was one of my Captains I would have given him an Accommodation. If you read this Sir, that was the right thing to do.
Update : In early 2022 the governor signed a law that would allow firefighters to use their discretion in cases like the Amme case. It was the EMT/ambulance service that complained that lead to the Chief getting let go. I have found no update as to Corey Britt being brought back as Chief.
i wonder how many other fire departments think of this as a christmas present for them, and will offer him a job. he sounds amazing
Imagine being there. Child crying its head off, parents scared shitless, and you're just standing there waiting. Time passes, and you're trying to calm everyone down, soothe the child. Parents asking repeatedly what's going on, why you're just waiting. More time passes, parents looking at you, like you're gonna just let their kid suffer, as you keep glancing at your watch telling them the ambulance will be here, it's on its way. More time passes. Finally you'd just say enough waiting, and you'd go.
Something the guys in the office will never understand. All they can do is sit behind a desk and issue laws and protocols. Lame how the hard working, honest individuals will never get paid enough yet these politicians get paid way more for just making laws and blah blah. So stupid, see how messed up this situation is? Good news though is that more than likely the Captain can just move to a different department and get hired. (Although moving is a big mess etc. but it would be worth it to get back into the fire business!)
@@GamerMason123 couldn't agree more, i work construction, and sometimes we get these college kids coming in with all their book knowledge thinking they know more than god, and think they can argue with my dad, whos been doing the business for 35 frickin years. every god damn time they go ahead with their oh so smart plan, they come crying to my dad "oooh what did we do wrong waaahhh it all should have worked!!!" and my dad's just like "well if you did what i asked you to from the beginning, maybe you wouldn't have to pay EVERYONE to come in and redo everything." i swear these college nuts and office workers think theyre gods or some shit
That is the exact problem I HATE in my country. We too have this worker/ office idiot situation but they call it the “white hat thinks, blue hat executes” BS. God I hate this entitlement of these people. And in every situation you are the donkey if anything doesn’t work.
I can totally relate. where in work there are countless things that should be different for things to run smoothly. but since the owners are constantly are the store they have the say if they want things done differently. it's like of the people who sat behind desks accually.listened to the people who do the work there wouldnt be this mess of them thinking they know what's best. there would be a harmony and a better flow of things.
5 minutes probably felt like an hour. Couldn't imagine waiting 24
We need more of hero’s like him! The parents should sue everyone that tried to punish the captain and he should get an award
Right on for several millions for pain and suffering. God bless you
I've sat with burns victims, for longer than twenty five minutes, unable to help as they were buried under a building. We got to them as safely and quickly as we could. I still have nightmares about that one.
Absolutely would have done the same. worked in EMS for 36 years, broke many rules, document, let supervisors know, don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness.
"The EMS said they were nearby" and im sure they said that 15 minutes before, again at 10, and once more at 5
The drive thru was moving slow that night.
@@Dog-ManTribe - that's the American system. You can't blame the little people at the bottom doing their job.
The Capt. did the right thing- regs or no regs. The young child needed immediate care. The Dept. Chief should have his back on this one, so should the ER doctors.
Bro got disciplined for doing his job well. Glad some of our first responders have this spirit in them.
Me, as the mom/guardian in that situation:
“thank you throwing all the protocol out the window and having compassion above and beyond the line of duty; for transporting my kid to the hospital yourself.
While I’m sure you all care, it means everything to me that you didn’t stop there bc ‘procedure.’ I made you gratitude cookies. I hope you like them. It isn’t enough to thank you to the depths I feel in my soul, but it was something more than nothing.”
If that was my baby, I would say, "Let's load and go." My vehicle or yours. He's got lights and sirens and training. He just saved a life. Good for him. We need more people like that
and after getting the law changed as a direct result of this he has saved MANY more
I gave that same reply hummingbird before I saw yours. No way I’m twiddling thumbs waiting twenty minutes! Thanks for the update Chipmunk.
So if you get stabbed and the ambulance doesn't show up but the fire department is there you just die? Anyways, props to this dude
You do
Sometimes... unless the firemen haven’t traded in their balls yet to administration.
Yes.
They can still provide care for you, most firefighters are EMTs or paramedics themselves. I'd also think (well, hope) the department would look the other way if the patient's condition was life threatening, but who knows in this day and age.
@@Jomskylark second degree burns can be life threatening. It depends how many (percentage) area is burnt. Toddlers are small so they easily get a high percentage of burnt skin area.
(I hope everybody understands what I'm trying to say, English is a foreign language for me)
Thank you Captain for caring so much for the child!
I'm from OKC. The 1st to arrive at the scene of any emergency is almost ALWAYS the fire dept. The ambulance is usually the 2nd to show up and the police, unless they happen to be very close, or by chance pull up on a scene, are the last to arrive. There are times when the ambulance is the 1st to arrive at a scene, but most generally, 1st to arrive to an emergency is the fire dept.
When I was in high school a 14 year old freshmen walked into the school nurse's office complain of a bad head ache and feeling "really weird."
The nurse took one look at the girl and knew right away she didn't have time to wait for an ambulance. She put the girl into her own car and drove her to the ER, speeding, running red lights and stop signs, and got the girl to the hospital intime to save her life.
She was having a stroke and would have died if the nurse called an ambulance.
What the nurse did was *VERY* against not only school rules, it was against the law.
But this was in 1986, so instead of punishing the nurse, they honored her.
Sometimes, circumstances override the rules and even the law.
Did you know *ANYONE* can run red lights and disregard speed limits and stop signs provided there is an actual emergency.
You have to be careful, but it is not illegal in an emergency.
Don't drive recklessly, be careful, but you can break the rules sometimes.
Great story, but not sure why you felt the need to say, "but this was in 1986." The US is so large and state policies so different that there is no one standard opinion on how to deal with the situation: that's the whole reason people are outraged, just like they would have been decades ago. Most in the comments can think of an instance where an emergency service disobeyed traffic laws even recently. This sounds like just a bad decision by a few office administrators, not The Entire Government trying to punish this guy.
When we realized I was in labor at 24 weeks, we knew there was no chance of getting an ambulance in time, since we lived 30 minutes from the nearest hospital. My husband did about 80 mph down the highway to get me there. We got into traffic at a red light once we hit town, but realized the car in the next lane was a cop. My husband threw the car in park and jumped out, yelling to the cop what was happening. Turns out there was an unmarked cop car behind us. They gave us an escort through town to the hospital. Our sweet boy was born 5 minutes after we got there. Sadly he was stillborn, but at least we were in the hospital, which means my kids weren't in the room and traumatized any more than they already were, and I had medical people all around. Even though they couldn't do anything to save him, they were there, which means I don't ask the question the rest of my life, 'would he have lived if I'd been at the hospital'. Thank goodness for my husband being skilled at driving, and those cops for thinking quickly to get us across town.
Did you know that if you ask a police officer, if anyone can break traffic laws when there is an actual emergency, that officer would tell you no. Only those with emergency lights on can do so.
Did you know that if you answer that question on your L permit traffic test, you'll fail the exam, if you say its okay to break the laws in an actual emergency?
Did you know that if the girl had died, instead of lived, that the nurse would have been in a completely different set of circumstances?
So, remember, if someone is having an actual emergency and they blow a red light and collide into you... then by your logic, you can't sue them or their insurance, because it was an emergency. Even if they killed your two kids and paralyzed you, when they collided with you. Because they were having an actual emergency.
No. No... No! Anyone who follows this person's advice is not going to get off Scott free, especially if by their actions they cause an emergency. A cop might be willing to escort you to the hospital... after they pull you over and give you a ticket for violating the law, but you are still going to have to pull over otherwise it will be a high speed chase and you'll be facing jail time.
Do the smart thing and plan ahead. The traffic laws are there to protect everyone, and you disregarding them because you didn't plan ahead, and driving like a maniac to avoid an emergency, often causes an emergency. I really wonder how many of those videos online of people blowing the red lights at 30+ the speed limit and cause a massive horrific car accident are people like this person that doesn't plan ahead.
@@mamaseesa3122So very sorry for what you went through, praying for continued healing for your family.🙏🏼💐
But that was life threatening. A second degree burn was not.
THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM A BONUS TO GO WITH THE MEDAL HE DESERVED.
You're right!!
In 2022 the governor of Oklahoma signed a new law allowing firefighters to use their discretion in similar cases.
Never heard your accent come out so thick, you justknow that respect is genuine
My youngest sister is 5, turning 6 in March. If she had 2nd degree burns and we were waiting on the ambulance for that long, and this man made the call he did, truck it, I'd raise hell and clog up phone lines till he got his job back, with a significant increase in pay. I salute him.
Well said, Nick. You make me proud.
I hope because this made the news, people in the area are doing just that.
Since when is it a crime to save a life, and a two year-old at that, he should be rewarded not fired!!
Don't worry, he wasn't, he kept his rank and pay
@@Deuce_and_a_half really? Because I just read a comment that saying he still got demoted.
Just because you get fired doesn't mean it was a crime...
Since incredibles
@@Deuce_and_a_half He wouldn't have had to go through that anyway because what happened was shameful.
I started out as a volunteer firefighter and ambulance driver. I worked as an EMT for 20 years in Montgomery Alabama. If we weren't at the scene in 15 minutes. The ambulance service would pay a fine and could be cut from the rotation. There were three ambulance services in the town. What they did to him was wrong. That ambulance service should be held responsible.
I love the fire dept coffee coat in the back. Especially love that it's a Rockford , IL decal! Home of cheap trick and the phantom Regiment!
EMSA is just mad they didn’t get to bill the family.
True story. It’s probably why they snitched
I think this is the real reason. Whenever something monumentally evil happens, it always comes back to money.
@@MolecularMachine EMSA is just a badly ran company altogether. EMSA in Tulsa is slightly better than OKC though
EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING always comes back to money with the government, it the stupidest thing ever. Do they even have souls?
@@renn0k402 but the gorvenment didn't own that ambulance it was a private ambulance who are the ones who snichted most likly cos they are the ones who profit off people calling them.
The problem is people writing the rules who have never done the job. Nothing but respect for the captain .
@Hydin Biden exactly
@Hydin Biden nailed it.
Yeah, can we please get these people in the same room with the parents of that 2 year old burn victim???
Couldn’t have said it any better!!
@common since The fear of that ultimately hurts everyone.
Thank you for your content and I appreciate your service. Do I have to give props to the Multnomah county sheriff's department in Oregon. For amazingly having an off-duty deputy help to save my life in Zigzag Oregon. A tragic drinking and driving event. But only so far as all three occupants of the vehicle survived me being one of them. I'm the only one that didn't technically dead. It was an approximately 1983. Maybe two. User resources call up the Zigzag fire department pull the file. Not my first miracle. But one of the absolute best. Thanks again for being brave firefighters. And first responders no matter what. ❤🇺🇲💯👍⚖️
Much respect to all of you life savers! They don't safe lives because it's their job, they save lives because it's their purpose.
They're our guardian angels, and when it comes to a case of life an death, they are willing to risk everything.
And if they need to brake "the rules" to safe a live, (even with the risk of losing their own life, or in this case their job. Or being umiliated on the news for following your gut), they show that they care more for the people in need, than about themselves. So in my opinionz théy are the réal superhero's!
Bless you all! Thankyou for your service; saving our lives, keeping us save & and caring for the ones in need.🙌👏🙏
He should be rewarded..what is wrong with those officials. He is an emergency personnel and did what he needed to do in an emergency. God bless you.
Not to mention the ambulances were held up for some strange reason.
THEY HAVE BROWN EYES FROM HAVING THEIR HEADS UP THEIR ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And if he wouldn’t have done it, then they would be all over him for letting the child suffer!!! So tired of the constant hypocrites everywhere!!!
Who is "they"? It would be the public getting mad at him in that case, not the department and city. You're conflating two different groups of people and crying hypocrisy.
Must be transplants down there too
@@VogtTD No, actually sfergel is not. Because when the public got pissed and came after the upper staff "they" would throw everyone else under the bus passing the blame. It happens all the time.
Leave that fire captain ALONE, this man deserves all the praise we can give. Hero's, everyone of you fire fighters 👍👍
There is a real fireman. I hope your there if me or mine are ever in need. Thank you and god bless
For those wondering, as of yesterday (November 1st, 2022), state law has changed as a direct result of this incident, and now allows for this to happen "in special circumstances". It was requested of lawmakers by the OKCFD, and boy was the action fact. As for the fire fighter, as far as I can find, while he did lose his leadership position at the station, he did not receive demotion, termination, any loss of pay, or suspension
A loss of leadership *is* a demotion.
Glad something changed. ❤
@@MasiMojoda A demotion is typically a loss in rank (and usually pay). You can be relieved of duties without your rank being affected.
Should have given that back to him, too.
Thank you for this update!
I wonder how much he saved Oklahoma from a lawsuit that begins: the fire dept stood around and did nothing because they didn’t want to get disciplined for driving.
Kudos to all Firemen and paramedics that risk their lives to help us.
Yes!!! Seriously!!! I would have been beyond furious watching idiots wait for an ambulance!! I definitely would have sued and made a huge stink over it.
He is being discipline for saving a life that's worng
@@brandondefend5442 He is probably being disciplined for breaking a State law! rightly or wrongly, Bureaucrats hate seeing people break laws even for just purposes.
@@inconnu4961The issue is that it relies on good judgement, and not dickheaded patients and family when it comes to money and debt. Relying on that, is like praying the sunrise comes 2 hours earlier. Probably the least realistic action available, even if Heaven is the only place you could actually find that possibility.
He’s exactly the fire Captain everyone needs and wants.
Most importantly, that type of first responder who puts the needs of the victims first, and makes the best of the resources available to most optimumally meet the needs of those victims is exactly the type of assistance people hope is on the way when they dial 9-1-1.
When a person can be disciplined for saving a childs life you know we've hit rock bottom.
This is so dumb. He used an emergency vehicle to transport a child to receive medical care. He was trying to get the child there before the "golden hour" was up. This Captain deserves a raise and promotion..
Thank you for your life-saving actions!! They should be giving kudos for going above and beyond!!
Ma'man indeed. Having lived in the Us for 4 years I've learned how following rules is one of the topmost things expected from everyone in the land of the free. Where we lived they had rules as to which clothes lines we could and couldn't use. That one, among a few other idiotic, petty stuff, stuck with me like a splinter in the eye.
This fire captain should have been asked to be a consultant to city hall or even to the state on how to be a human being.
Amen, he's a hero and should be given a medal not discipline.
The wonders of bureaucratic idiocy never cease.
Way to go Capt.! Definitely the right call, for any patient and especially a little one. Patient care at its best
definitely i understand that theirs rules but they should also come with circumstances
@@scottcantdance804 You mean capitalist idiocy. The firefighter doing that, means the company doesn't get paid for the trip in an ambulance.
Yeah fuck the higher ups Jezz how would they have felt of that was there kid
I would totally stand behind that man 100% if I was his supervisor. He most likely saved the child's life and deserves a medal!! Thank you all first responders ❤
That’s exactly what I was thinking….give that man a medal
He’s definitely a role model for all let alone firefighters to aspire to become❤️
Amen! I would only critisize him for waiting 24 minutes. If the ambulance wasn't there in 12, then just cancel it and use your fire truck!
@@jacktattersall9457 He was probably waiting as long as possible to follow the rules so that he didn't have happen what eventually happened anyway. Until he decided "you know what, these laws fucking blow" and realized the toddler's life was more important than some old coward that made the rule.
It was a second degree burn! It wasn't life threatening!
@@thanesgames9685 ...if you were any more ignorant you'd be drooling. Depending on the area and how much of it is burned treatment can range from simply applying burn creams all the way to skin grafting surgery. Let's also not forget that this was a toddler of 2 years old. If this firefighter...a veteran of the job who most likely has exponentially more experience with burns than you do...decided that this situation was serious enough that he was going to break the "rules" and transport the victim himself then I'm willing to bet he knew what was going on. Do everyone a favor and grow a brain before sounding off again, copy?
This man made a decision that more than likely saved a child’s life. I would do the same thing. This man should be honored for a job well done..
that Captain is a can do man , knows how to take charge, that baby has a 100% chance of an excellent recovery from those burns. The captain is and man that his fellow officers can be proud of & look up to & work with.
As an Oklahoma City resident and the son of first responders, I'm proud to have this man serving my city, and can only hope that public outcry over his unjust treatment by the higher-ups motivates them to reinstate him and clear his record of any wrongdoing.
And give him a raise!
Well he ain’t serving you at the moment, unfortunately
Is there any update on this?!
@ChaoticAngelKitten according to reports the law that he violated was overturned and the department he works for and his unions said in a statement that his discipline did not include demotion, termination or loss of pay. It sounds like they put on a performitive show of slapping him on the wrist because they had to. The public outcry caused reforms to the rules and they emt administration admitted they were understaffed and struggling to keep up because of covid regulations causing delays to patients.
@@sammieh9695 that’s good! Ty for the update!
A toddler having the agony of burns takes precedence over policy. He did the right thing
Thank you, Captain, for your incredible service.
Thank you, FDC, for telling his story.