I love the combativeness of Rich. Usually he’s laid back and teases out points to get people to explain more. This time he’s full offensive, he disagrees and challenges Brad in a very direct way. Very refreshing to see him argue with someone so calmly. You can tell he has a great respect for brad and that they are friends
I feel like Rich has evolved over time to really challenge his guests on their ideas that aren’t very well explained, and really pushing them to not only get very explicit about what they are conveying, but Rich pushes them into explaining actionable ways to integrate and embody the ideas that are being shared. It’s refreshing, because most interviews are with very engaging, compelling, charismatic speakers where you listen and feel like something life changing was shared, but then transition into, “wait, what? How do I use any of that in real life???”
I LOVE this guy. I learned so much and identified with what he was saying especially about the depression and how in the moment you just have to get through and stop trying to find growth or meaning. You just have to accept and be nice to yourswld
Thank you for this podcast. I had stumbled upon the term hyper-responsibility a bit ago and very much related to it, feeling a sense of release when I identified with the "disorder." Up until listening to this podcast I was saying I didn't want to put a label on myself and now I realize that the "label" actually helped me disassociate this behavior from my being and helped free me from the behavior, recognizing it was only something I was doing, not who I am. I appreciate the time spent and shared. Listening to this has given me a sense of freedom and clarity for what I had been feeling. With much appreciation and gratitude. Lynn 💜
That’s not what Pollyanna is about (blind optimism, putting your head in the sand). Pollyanna is about looking for something to be glad about in any situation (sometimes it’s very hard to find). I highly recommend reading the book (Pollyanna, and also Pollyanna Grows Up). Don’t judge a book by its (terrible) movie. I love your podcast, Rich!
Your example of what pollyanna means, explains plain old 'optimism'. Then this leaves room for a more irrepressible optimism that is blind to reality and the pitfalls of maladaptively believing in this way. Look: Optimism is about looking for something to be glad about in any situation. It fits. Key words being "looking for". Pollyanna is irrepressible not bounded by time or material. e.g "It'll be alright!", without critical analysis.
I was not describing an example; I was explaining what Pollyanna is actually about. Have you read the book? Pollyanna’s “Glad game” is about finding something to be glad about in any situation, no matter how dismal it may seem. There is no lack of critical analysis, and she’s not necessarily saying “it’ll be all right”.
I used to drink wine at parties, sometimes a bottle and wearing a HR monitor helped me to realize that I was having 10-20% higher HR during sleep after having drinks for hours….my brother died young from a heart attack, so it make me quit alcohol almost completely, I don’t need it anymore as a social lubricant, I can enjoy parties and gatherings without any sip of alcohol
Once again Rich you’ve set the standard bar of human potential at a level that is within all of our grasp with your Rollian advice and the way you are just simply kind to the core. 🙏
Fantastic episode. Was super timely in my life right now. I loved the back and forth between you two. It really drives home the message to me that we are all out here sharing ideas and trying to come to our best conclusions but nothing is so cut and dry. There is a whole world of nuance that most people don’t want to dive into. They want the single answer. Myself included. It provides more certainty of our path. But rarely is there one sensible answer to any of life’s challenges.
Great discussion! The conversation that delves into the depths of change, adaptation, personal growth, and the human experience is truly enlightening. The topics discussed are undeniably thought-provoking and relatable to the challenges and opportunities we all encounter in life. Given the rich exploration of change triggers and the role of allostasis in personal development, how do you think individuals can effectively identify their own inescapable triggers and leverage them for positive change?
Rich and Brad's discussion on change and adaptation is truly insightful and thought-provoking. The way they explore the concept of stability through change, contrasting homeostasis, and allostasis, offers a fresh perspective on personal growth and evolution. Kudos!🔥
What an amazing discussion! The way you dive into change, adaptation, personal growth, and the human experience is genuinely enlightening. The subjects covered are undeniably thought-provoking and resonate with the challenges and chances we face.
On my opinion, it's been an enlightening journey into change and personal growth! When it comes to recognizing our unique triggers for change, a powerful approach involves introspection and self-awareness, pinpointing moments that resonate deeply. By aligning these triggers with our aspirations, we can harness their force for transformative positive change.
Delving into change, personal growth, and the human experience are truly enlightening. The explored topics are thought-provoking and relatable. How can individuals effectively identify and harness their personal development for positive change, given the insights on change triggers and allostasis? Can't wait for your take!
The way you dive into the intricacies of change, adaptation, personal growth, and the human journey is genuinely enlightening. The subjects you explore are undeniably thought-provoking and strike a chord with the challenges and chances we face in our lives. Your insights are a beacon of wisdom, and I'm eagerly absorbing every nugget you're sharing!
Order, disorder, re-order. I was first introduced to this concept by Richard Rhor. He also adds that the key to re-order is SURRENDER, which is sort of what Rich Roll talks about with the idea that the pain of the situation outweighs not changing. When you reach that level of disorder, you’re left with no choice but to surrender or resist. Surrender leads to re-order. Resist leads to order, but not re-order. Basically back to where you were, not changing.
Yes I recently experienced change the other day, As I was walking through downtown San Francisco, five or six people were hitting me up for.change! I Managed to adapt.
while i do like the idea of non-attachment, i wholeheartedly agree with Brad's assessment of it and more practical way to approach. also, i always love when someone challenges Rich. 😉
Pushing myself to listen to new pod asts/ ideas...sooo hard to relate to people with Big Success, yet I "get" your point. Age 60, divorced & barely keeping myself above water, recovered from a stroke, teach High School etc. Seems you two have had lots of control at times?
I really enjoyed your conversation. I just find that there is some twist in using the term "homeostasis", homeo-όμοιο=similar & stasis-στάσις=stop, halt, ceasure as well as standing (upright), standing waiting, posture. Binding both words together, it means that through "similar" triggers, the organism sustains its balance and stands upright (once again). It is not a stagnant process, as nothing is static. On the contrary, allostasis with allo-άλλο=different, secondary, additional, foreign and stasis, the meaning is that the experience is a different to the prognostic capability of the brain, a foreign one, hence there is a drastic change happening, out of which the organism can or cannot find its balance back. It would definitely change the person for good (in resilient and robust cases) or for bad (unreversably altered conditions).
I am thinking that the world is this and that But our freedom to choose is this or that. This is our personal opportunity to sort the chaff from the wheat. Choose your best nutritional support 😊
I love this podcast. Based on my experience, I disagree with the part regarding post traumatic growth only happening after 3 months and it being a "chinese-finger" trap to find meaning during the traumatic experience itself. I've been through numerous situations this year which are typically regarded as big T trauma and the way I've skewed it from trauma to growth is in those moments, I recognize that I have an opportunity to grow and adapt to it if I actively approach the thing I'm scared of and look for a solution and then I do that. One experience I was not able to, I was just trying to survive. But I did it immediately afterwards with the meaning being derived from embodying a sense of agency after acknowledging the fact that I did something to protect myself from that situation. Because of that, the typical avoidance I've experienced in the past after traumatic experiences has all but disappeared im the anticipation of a similar experience, with only a protective blimp popping up sometimes. I have a greater sense of agency and I believe that's because, in those moments when my brain is flooded with all the chemistry necessary for learning, I choose to act with agency and recognize that I did that so I learn THAT. I then find immediate meaning and growth.
You realize that these are issues only Middle Ages white guys struggle with. The rest of us know we have little control, so ‘having’ vs ‘being’ comes naturally. I appreciate the concept of re-order but suggest that the expectation to return to how it was before is also a perspective of patriarchy and colonialism.
there's this part where Rich makes a brilliant part about the jedi level of non-attachment, and this guy who literally wrote the book on the topic gets all attached and defensive over his analogy of the house with different rooms 😂 oh the irony
Did you guys had to finish this wonderful connection with an “ obvious political “ downer… Twitter vs Instagram… ;( I personally love the way Twitter is going and can’t stand Instagram…Among your regular listeners…am pretty sure, there is just me 🤷🏻♀😘
I love the combativeness of Rich. Usually he’s laid back and teases out points to get people to explain more. This time he’s full offensive, he disagrees and challenges Brad in a very direct way. Very refreshing to see him argue with someone so calmly. You can tell he has a great respect for brad and that they are friends
Lawyer Rich has come out, but with love! Should say that Brad seems like a very emotionally aware person. ✨
Yes! Rich is the best! Brad needed to be challenged on lots of stuff
I feel like Rich has evolved over time to really challenge his guests on their ideas that aren’t very well explained, and really pushing them to not only get very explicit about what they are conveying, but Rich pushes them into explaining actionable ways to integrate and embody the ideas that are being shared. It’s refreshing, because most interviews are with very engaging, compelling, charismatic speakers where you listen and feel like something life changing was shared, but then transition into, “wait, what? How do I use any of that in real life???”
I LOVE this guy. I learned so much and identified with what he was saying especially about the depression and how in the moment you just have to get through and stop trying to find growth or meaning. You just have to accept and be nice to yourswld
My favorite RR podcast episode for sure. Have listened to it multiple times and picked up both of Brad's books...fantastic stuff.
I absolutely loved this episode. I’m going through a really challenging part of my life and this couldn’t have come at a better time.
AA😊
Thank you for this podcast. I had stumbled upon the term hyper-responsibility a bit ago and very much related to it, feeling a sense of release when I identified with the "disorder." Up until listening to this podcast I was saying I didn't want to put a label on myself and now I realize that the "label" actually helped me disassociate this behavior from my being and helped free me from the behavior, recognizing it was only something I was doing, not who I am. I appreciate the time spent and shared. Listening to this has given me a sense of freedom and clarity for what I had been feeling. With much appreciation and gratitude. Lynn 💜
That’s not what Pollyanna is about (blind optimism, putting your head in the sand). Pollyanna is about looking for something to be glad about in any situation (sometimes it’s very hard to find). I highly recommend reading the book (Pollyanna, and also Pollyanna Grows Up). Don’t judge a book by its (terrible) movie.
I love your podcast, Rich!
Your example of what pollyanna means, explains plain old 'optimism'. Then this leaves room for a more irrepressible optimism that is blind to reality and the pitfalls of maladaptively believing in this way. Look: Optimism is about looking for something to be glad about in any situation. It fits. Key words being "looking for". Pollyanna is irrepressible not bounded by time or material. e.g "It'll be alright!", without critical analysis.
I was not describing an example; I was explaining what Pollyanna is actually about. Have you read the book? Pollyanna’s “Glad game” is about finding something to be glad about in any situation, no matter how dismal it may seem. There is no lack of critical analysis, and she’s not necessarily saying “it’ll be all right”.
I used to drink wine at parties, sometimes a bottle and wearing a HR monitor helped me to realize that I was having 10-20% higher HR during sleep after having drinks for hours….my brother died young from a heart attack, so it make me quit alcohol almost completely, I don’t need it anymore as a social lubricant, I can enjoy parties and gatherings without any sip of alcohol
An interesting book on order - disorder - reorder is Richard Rohr's "Falling Upward." Cheers all, 🥂.
Once again Rich you’ve set the standard bar of human potential at a level that is within all of our grasp with your Rollian advice and the way you are just simply kind to the core. 🙏
This is awesome. Rich you continue to put out useful information. Thank you!! ❤
Fantastic episode. Was super timely in my life right now. I loved the back and forth between you two. It really drives home the message to me that we are all out here sharing ideas and trying to come to our best conclusions but nothing is so cut and dry. There is a whole world of nuance that most people don’t want to dive into. They want the single answer. Myself included. It provides more certainty of our path. But rarely is there one sensible answer to any of life’s challenges.
Great discussion! The conversation that delves into the depths of change, adaptation, personal growth, and the human experience is truly enlightening. The topics discussed are undeniably thought-provoking and relatable to the challenges and opportunities we all encounter in life. Given the rich exploration of change triggers and the role of allostasis in personal development, how do you think individuals can effectively identify their own inescapable triggers and leverage them for positive change?
Rich and Brad's discussion on change and adaptation is truly insightful and thought-provoking. The way they explore the concept of stability through change, contrasting homeostasis, and allostasis, offers a fresh perspective on personal growth and evolution. Kudos!🔥
What an amazing discussion! The way you dive into change, adaptation, personal growth, and the human experience is genuinely enlightening. The subjects covered are undeniably thought-provoking and resonate with the challenges and chances we face.
On my opinion, it's been an enlightening journey into change and personal growth! When it comes to recognizing our unique triggers for change, a powerful approach involves introspection and self-awareness, pinpointing moments that resonate deeply. By aligning these triggers with our aspirations, we can harness their force for transformative positive change.
Delving into change, personal growth, and the human experience are truly enlightening. The explored topics are thought-provoking and relatable. How can individuals effectively identify and harness their personal development for positive change, given the insights on change triggers and allostasis? Can't wait for your take!
The way you dive into the intricacies of change, adaptation, personal growth, and the human journey is genuinely enlightening. The subjects you explore are undeniably thought-provoking and strike a chord with the challenges and chances we face in our lives. Your insights are a beacon of wisdom, and I'm eagerly absorbing every nugget you're sharing!
This was an outstanding pdcast!! Really impressive work! Thank you gentlemen! You guys rock and the discussions were riveting!!:)
Order, disorder, re-order. I was first introduced to this concept by Richard Rhor. He also adds that the key to re-order is SURRENDER, which is sort of what Rich Roll talks about with the idea that the pain of the situation outweighs not changing. When you reach that level of disorder, you’re left with no choice but to surrender or resist. Surrender leads to re-order. Resist leads to order, but not re-order. Basically back to where you were, not changing.
What a great conversation! Thank you 🤍
This is a great conversation.
This has helped me in understanding my thoughts.
Yes I recently experienced change the other day, As I was walking through downtown San Francisco, five or six people were hitting me up for.change! I Managed to adapt.
😊
while i do like the idea of non-attachment, i wholeheartedly agree with Brad's assessment of it and more practical way to approach. also, i always love when someone challenges Rich. 😉
Pushing myself to listen to new pod asts/ ideas...sooo hard to relate to people with Big Success, yet I "get" your point. Age 60, divorced & barely keeping myself above water, recovered from a stroke, teach High School etc. Seems you two have had lots of control at times?
61 started over 2 years ago still struggling.
Teachers are the best!!! Both You ladies hang in there -- grow into something new and unexpected
Love you guys!!
Rich Roll x Robert Greene please🙌🏻🙌🏻
Brilliant video.
Fantastic conversation, loved it! super helpful.
Wait a second - Rich is back on On running? Great pod episode as always
I really enjoyed your conversation. I just find that there is some twist in using the term "homeostasis", homeo-όμοιο=similar & stasis-στάσις=stop, halt, ceasure as well as standing (upright), standing waiting, posture. Binding both words together, it means that through "similar" triggers, the organism sustains its balance and stands upright (once again). It is not a stagnant process, as nothing is static.
On the contrary, allostasis with allo-άλλο=different, secondary, additional, foreign and stasis, the meaning is that the experience is a different to the prognostic capability of the brain, a foreign one, hence there is a drastic change happening, out of which the organism can or cannot find its balance back. It would definitely change the person for good (in resilient and robust cases) or for bad (unreversably altered conditions).
Even the Buddha, some would say the pinnacle of non attachment, named his son "Rahula" which means "fetter".
So kind of you
great conversation 🥳
I am thinking that the world is this and that
But our freedom to choose is this or that. This is our personal opportunity to sort the chaff from the wheat. Choose your best nutritional support 😊
What watch/tracker is Rich Roll wearing?
I love this podcast. Based on my experience, I disagree with the part regarding post traumatic growth only happening after 3 months and it being a "chinese-finger" trap to find meaning during the traumatic experience itself. I've been through numerous situations this year which are typically regarded as big T trauma and the way I've skewed it from trauma to growth is in those moments, I recognize that I have an opportunity to grow and adapt to it if I actively approach the thing I'm scared of and look for a solution and then I do that. One experience I was not able to, I was just trying to survive. But I did it immediately afterwards with the meaning being derived from embodying a sense of agency after acknowledging the fact that I did something to protect myself from that situation. Because of that, the typical avoidance I've experienced in the past after traumatic experiences has all but disappeared im the anticipation of a similar experience, with only a protective blimp popping up sometimes. I have a greater sense of agency and I believe that's because, in those moments when my brain is flooded with all the chemistry necessary for learning, I choose to act with agency and recognize that I did that so I learn THAT. I then find immediate meaning and growth.
Dear Rich (or someone else) can you tell me which devices you wear on your left and right hand, watch/fitness bracelet? Thanks 🙂
A whoop band and a Garmin watch. RR usually wears a Garmin watch or an Apple Watch.
Erich Fromm 👍
You realize that these are issues only Middle Ages white guys struggle with. The rest of us know we have little control, so ‘having’ vs ‘being’ comes naturally. I appreciate the concept of re-order but suggest that the expectation to return to how it was before is also a perspective of patriarchy and colonialism.
Always a good episode with two of my preferred podcast hosts ! thank you both
Having AND Being = Eastern. Having OR Being = Western. Everything has a season = Ecclesiastes/Evolution
there's this part where Rich makes a brilliant part about the jedi level of non-attachment, and this guy who literally wrote the book on the topic gets all attached and defensive over his analogy of the house with different rooms 😂 oh the irony
This is so tedious.
Yes
Agreed. Half an hour of name dropping.
Did you guys had to finish this wonderful connection with an “ obvious political “ downer…
Twitter vs Instagram… ;( I personally love the way Twitter is going and can’t stand Instagram…Among your regular listeners…am pretty sure, there is just me 🤷🏻♀😘