I used to have a V-strom 650, years ago. I'm still wondering today why I sold it (for a BMW)... It was a Swiss Army knife of a bike! Good for commuting, for travelling.... and quite cheap to own. A no nonsense bike.
@@grtbgf so? nothing wrong with wanting to talk about your expereince and all the things he said does apply to v strom 800re as well, good for commuting, touring, light off road and cheap to own
I bought this as my first ADV style bike. I wanted the DE, as that looks so much cooler, but coming from sportier bikes, the 21” front wheel steering felt strange to me, and I was not certain that I would drive in the dirt. The handling of the RE is surprisingly good, and I have not regretted my choise. Great review btw.
I have one. The quiet smooth engine is every bit as good as reported. I’m not usually a fan of twins but this one has completely won me over, easily providing the torque needed on the road. Used sensibly it manages about 68-70mpg (UK imperial gallons), note the on board computer is about 10% pessimistic. I’ve now done 1,300 miles. The engine and gearbox have become smoother with use and the initially stiff suspension is now comfortable. The handling is impressive, all very easy, it inspires a lot of confidence. The bike seems to carry its weight well, it’s light off the side-stand, suggesting the weight is carried low. That would explain its excellent stability at speed, sidewind performance is in a different league from a 2007 Vstrom 650 I had. As the video recommended I fitted different screen; Puig with the adjustable lip. I’m 6 foot and can now travel comfortably at motorway speeds. The ergonomics of the bike seem well judged for someone my height, it’s very comfortable, I can sit for hours, the miles slip by very easily. Downsides; fuelling at very light throttle openings isn’t perfect, very slightly hesitant. Bike looks plain in the green, then again it’s less of a theft magnet when parked outside hotels on tour. If this model proves half as reliable as the rock solid 650 it will be a truly great solo tourer.
Fueling would be perfected with an ECU tune. You wouldn't have to change exhaust or intake for that, and there's good improvements to be had (especially running the engine cooler, which also reduces engine vibration from leanness). That's impressive mileage per fuel consumption. The tank range must be impressive, which is a welcomed phenomenon today with all the tiny tank trends. Was the Puig screen bigger or smaller than factory? Any increase noise around the helmet? Veridian sells a plug-in cruise control for this bike, if interested.
@@exothermal.sprocket Puig screen is a good bit taller but only a little wider. They do 2 versions, I have the one with the adjustable laminar lip. No buffeting, clean air stream seems to hit the very top of my helmet at high speed in its current setting which is fine for me. I’m sure I could tune this out by adjusting the height/angle of the lip but it’s so minimal I have yet to experiment. Very happy with the screen, massive improvement over standard which didn’t work for me at all. It’s quite discreet too, unlike the Givi Airflow which looks very obtrusive to my eye.
what about the vibrations - is it okay? What do you think of BMW F800GS and comparing the v-strom to? I am thinking of buying one of these two - still cant decide...
@@nrschannel7088 Vibration perception and annoyance seems to be person specific in my experience. A test drive sadly is the only way to know if you will find it problematic on any specific bike. Every bike I’ve ridden has vibrated to some extent at some point in the rev range. Having said that from my perspective the vibration levels on the V-Strom 800 are very low. It’s generally a refined, quiet, and smooth running engine, remarkably so for a twin. The only vibration present is at precisely 5000 revs which is about 70mph. On my bike this is only apparent in the bars. It certainly wasn’t excessive when new as some bike testers have reported and has decreased markedly with added miles to the point I hardly notice it now at 1300 miles. Further up the rev range vibration is again very minimal, the engine loves to rev. through the mid-range and high speed cruising is vibe free. Unlike some other bikes I’ve ridden opening the throttle wide in the mid range doesn’t induce annoying vibration. As to the comparison with BMW 800 I’m sorry I haven’t ridden that bike or engine. I did have a 2010 GS 1200 twin cam, reported to be a smooth engine. The V-Strom 800’s motor in comparison just feels more modern. It’s infinitely smoother, more refined, more willing to rev and just much sweeter in use. Hope this helps.
I Bought one in 2010 for 6300€ did 121000 km in 11 years and sold it for 3800€ in 2021, pandemic time. I had zero problems worh this model DL650 2010. Was one of my best buys ever. Plenty fun, lovely sound, 10000% bullet proof. From Portugal to Marrocos, Alps, all Europe. Was amazing. A bit of corrosion over the years but nothing else.
I have the 8s which has the same engine and pulls smooth absolutely love it. when it was in for service the local dealer loaned me the 800RE same as the one your riding, I was shocked how good it is, it’s a heavier bike but you would not know it, seat is super comfy, handing is excellent and would happily tour Europe. If I had room and the cash I’d have the 800RE too.
I tried the RE today and agree. Having come from their sv650, sv1000, multistrada 1100 I was impressed. Then I got on the 8S and immediately yes noticed it was much more nimble but I did not like how heavy the front felt. the motor is nice for sure. even with the passenger on the strom, it went well
I own the Suzuki GSX-S 1000 GT and had the V-Strom 800 DE during the first inspection of my bike. I absolutely loved it! And I'll never buy a bike without cruise control again. So thank you Suzuki for CC on the GT bike and please put it on more bikes! Thank you. :)
I have a green RE and am very happy with it. I think it a bit strange that some examples vibrate more than others. Mine is relatively smooth and what vibes there are never intrusive. I did find it too quiet though, a slip-on silencer fixed that.😊
The aftermarket has the cruise control problem solved for around $300 usd. I have the Veridian system on my GSX-8R, easy to install and works great. I also agree with you on the Suzuki engine, I owned a Transalp earlier this year and the Suzuki has noticeably more torque in the rpm range we all ride in. The Honda you really have to rev out to get into the power band, which doesn’t really suit the adventure bike format.
It's very strange the TA having the same peak power as the hornet. The style of bike doesn't suit the state of tune . Previously they were always de tuned for torque. But now the TA makes its power around 9k. Off roading at 9k rpm just doesn't work. Should have made 75hp max
The Suzuki is very restricted in factory guise, if you're interested in making about 10-12 horsepower and another 8-9 ft-lb torque, it's possible in the aftermarket and be totally reliable and better functioning (also drop weight).
I preferred the Suzuki DL650 V-Strom but ended up with a preowned 2017 SV650 in May with only 30,000 km on the clock for a fraction of the price. After 9,000 km including a camping trip to Harz I absolutely love it.
Hey there, from Sofia-Bulgaria, and thanks for the video. On my humble opinion it is the name VStrom that gets you at first. Let's not forget that This is the replacement of the 650! New era,hm😮? Two versions of the same bike as 650and 650xt. Test rode both versions and I find them very well designed in terms of rider 3angle. All that I wish to change for comfort on the 650 is here,just ready to use it.😊. Besides this one gives you more opportunity for upgrades. Bar end weights are biger but the same. The handlebar is bigger in the center as well. As for the windscreen it is wider, because you do not have the plastic hand protectors. Personally I would take the 21front because of off-road capabilities and I love to do some grass walk from time to time. Cheers!
I have the DE, and find it fantastic fun - vibes are not overly bad, heat not too intrusive, buffeting is ok now the screen is at the low end, don’t need cruise, don’t need tubeless tyres, love the torque, love the handling and the DE suits me better than the RE at my height. I had a Vstrom 650 which I really liked, but this is much better.
@@Oscar240z Hi Oscar, I’m 5ft 11”, and it’s fine for me. Maybe you could do with a taller seat, but you should test ride first and get a feel for it. 🙏👍
Nice bike, a lot people get bogged down with techs and specs. It's not all about the horsepower, most of these bikes are more than adequate for most riders 👍
@@hanhtoobala7510 The GSX-8S isn't tall enough. I have a Honda VFR800 and BMW K1300S. I need something with more leg room and better long distance ergonomics, and it will hopefully never leave the pavement.
I took one for a test ride last weekend sweet engine and a very smooth gearbox nice riding position.The quick shifter was very smooth up the box but down the gears it was a bit rough
Have had mine since July as my first bike. In green, with tall Puig windscreen+spoiler, hand guard, crash-protection bars, additional lights and big topcase. Excellent machine, very tame, pleasant and non-agressive, quite comfy for longer rides. I don't mind the vibrations, which come around 4500-5000 rpm. The only slight downside for me is the top-heavy feeling, especially during slow speeds. It's not a real issue but as a beginner, I have to concentrate more and I don't feel comfortable doing a slower maneuvering, especially in the traffic - yet. But I guess it'll get better over time :).
Can I ask a favor from you. I'm looking to buy a quad lock set up and want to mount it to the bar above the odometer but don't know the width and can't find the measurement anywhere 😅.
Having owned a couple of 650XT's and an 800RE, I'd say the 650 is a better bike. The 800RE is the most vibey bike I've ridden such that it sent my hands to sleep. I sold my RE after 600 miles and wish I'd kept my last 650XT. I'll undoubtedly have another 650.
I've got a 650 XT and there's nothing I've seen that would make me switch. The 19/17 tubeless spoked wire wheels are pretty much perfect. I run Michelin's Anakee Road and the end result is a bike that can cover the potholed and patched roads at speed without bending the way the cast wheels do and I can confidently take on pretty much any made road until it turns to mud. The day before yesterday I came across a guy on a KTM 300 EXC who seemed quite surprised I was on that fire trail. He was going much much faster than me, but we were both out there enjoying it, but when I got back to the bitumen he was loading his bike into a trailer while I just rode away down the twisty road. Cpt 64/4 Trail, Lake Innes NSW 2446 if you want to look at it on maps.
I own a 2023 VStrom 650. Good bike, sublime engine. She is my everything, I don’t own a car. But soon I will, practically I can’t go on without one. Once I do I won’t ride my bike 🏍️ and that will be that. Sadly I will eventually sell it because collecting dust is sad.
I enjoyed multiple day jaunts around California on the 1st gen DL650. I imagine this version is leaps and bounds better doing the same with more highway oomph, the quick shifter, traction control and upgraded suspension.
Can't believe manufacturers are not putting any effort in to design a decent screen! Once I mentioned the buffety screen as a negative point to a bmw salesman, he said no issues, just change screen. And i say i rather have the company to trial and error than me at £150 a go. Btw, I found the stock screen on the Transalp very good. Pretty important on a mile mounching bike...
In the summer a smaller screen is much better for the nice air cooling you down. Did find the R1200GS adventure screen worked really well and I could still over it but it still stopped all the wind
Why do bike clothing manufacturers always make black clothes? It's such a bad colour to wear during the night or in poor lighting conditions. As a motorcyclist, you always should be visible to other road users and colour/reflective clothing is key to help other road users see you or help you stand out. Same thing goes for bike colours. Black bikes look awesome, but I personally think it makes you more of a potential hazard. Maybe you can do a video on clothing that's brighter and more fashionable
Yes the street models, you know where most everyone rides, get little press or attention. The suzuki vstrom 800 and 1050 are wonderful all around bikes. If you dont need a 21' inch wheel then why bother, you can still go off road in emergencies etc.
With Triumph offering simple but standard cruise control on their 2025 660's, it appears that the other major manufacturers are caught flat footed on that point. Perhaps it will be broadly offered by 2026 models on these 700/800 cc bikes?
Love the bike, and would have bought it if it had a little more punch in the bottom. For that reason alone I prefer the 1050. But for the rest, it's awesome and relaxed to ride
@@exothermal.sprocket Indeed. And my old SV650 had more than enough punch. So the rumour about the 800 not being a real V(strom) is true. But still, it's a great bike.
@@Muilkorfje-NL Not real in what way? Suzuki redefined naming convention because they have the right to do so. It's not about engine cylinders anymore, it's about "V"ersatility. As a package, the 800 is the most advanced and clean-sheet V-Strom to date.
I notice the screen was on the highest setting (of 3). I have a V-Strom 650 as my daily and get buffeting if the screen is raised but no buffeting on the lowest setting.
V was used years ago to denote the engine. Suzuki later changed that denotation to refer to "versatility". They have the right to do that, they invented it in the first place. Changing model nomenclature in documentation, part numbers, engine codes, patents, and all the rest is a massive waste of time when you can simply redefine the denotation.
Had a great test of the 800RE earlier in summer and while the bike was really nice (I mean really nice, quite perfect for my needs) the lack of cruise control was a bit odd and my right leg was absolutely roasted after less than an hours riding. I guess my knees bend at just the right (or wrong) angle for this bike. Shame really, I hope Suzuki will sell loads of these.
Given that the GSX-8R has a comfortable seat-to-peg distance plus wind protection, I'm interested in it, as well as the VStrom 800RE. How do the two compare handling-wise?
Cruise detractors are like a stuck record. Guess who Suzuki will pay attention to, those who become vocal about their would-be purchase, or those Luddites who like cramped throttle arms?
I found I prefer the re over the de. To be fair most vstroms are riden on black top. Had the others but prefer the 800re. If I'm riding narly stuff I'll ride the drz400.
I rode the Strom 800RE and There are 2 things I really don't like...heat of the engine on the right side, and the engine sound...comfort is great, handling not so much fun like I expected...but I ride MT09
17/21 wire wheel motorcycles aren't going to handle like a 17/17 machine, "tall-rounder" or naked bike. That's to be expected. But take the ADV into a dirt track environment the bigger wheels are welcome. There's videos of the 800DE fitted with big knobby tires ripping up the side of mountains.
I also ride an MT09, the 800RE is a different animal...i wouldn't mind to give the MT for it, as i am on the lookout for a comfy long legged allrounder with a 19 front, but the RE vibrates BADLY and at highway speeds/rpm's, around 5 to 6K rpm's things are TERRIBLE... Other than that there is not really a problem, the clutch is heavier but that's bearable, but i couldn't stand the vibrations,which believe it or not i didn't notice in the first testride...but the second yesterday killed it for me...
@@Panos-xo9rc It's been hit and miss with vibrations on the 800 models (8S/8R/DE/RE) from all the reviews I can find. Some say there's nothing, others say there's something at a specific RPM. That tells me one thing. The vibration is not from the inherent mechanical design, as there are twin counter-rotating balance shafts. The vibration is from emissions fuel regs which, in order to pass, the regulators require small engines to comply with a certain emitted amount at a specific engine RPM, as well as passing noise regulations at a certain engine RPM measured from a certain distance away. Lean operating conditions induces vibration. This can easily be tuned out, even without any airbox, filter, or exhaust modifications. ECU flash on otherwise entirely stock motorcycle will remove vibration. Cost? About 350. I had a 2011 new FZ1 that buzzed. After I went through the trouble of freeing up over 20 horsepower and getting it tuned, the vibration reduced by at least 80%. Just disappeared. And that engine had zero counterbalance shafts.
@@exothermal.sprocket thanks for the reply, i will speak with a local tuner here (Athens, Greece) as the bike ticks all the other boxes and really interests me.
@@Panos-xo9rc I would invite you to view the most recent videos by 2wheeldynoworks, just as a cautionary video (no promotion) about tuners. That way you can be sure to get the utmost quality for your money. This is not in your country but the principles are exactly the same.
I am considering this 800RE vs. Tiger850 Sport and wondering how good in terms of comfort as compared to Tiger. Tested both Tiger 850 and 900 and still waiting for this 800RE to be landed in my country 😢 before I pull the trigger. By the way rumors of the new Triumph Tiger800 is launching soon, things just get more exciting now 🎉
Question Motobob Since I want to buy a tourer and will often have a pillion rider… is it an ok bike for two people on longer journeys? To buy a Tiger 1200 just for the sake of gadgetry and seating is financially stupid (for me) seeing the bike will also be used by me around town on an almost daily basis most months of the year. The 1200 is a bit to cumbersome and heavy in my ho. It is a sweet bike but to much. And I’m not getting any younger. (53) So pillion rider and shocks… could the RE be the bike for me?
There's complaints online about bar vibrations at 85mph, your right foot getting hot in the summer and the headlights are shite, a solid block of light but no spread and you lose the road on bends. I need a test ride in the spring but it needs to include a quick blast on the motorway.
I'm so glad I started riding in the 1980s. More choice of better looking bikes from the 60s, 70s and obviously the 80s. Nearly all new bikes are leaving me cold in the looks department.
A fully spec’ed F800GS is about £12K - 33% more than this bike plus in the UK at least, pannier are free at the moment. For that you get ESA on the rear, heated grips, a centre stand, tyre pressure monitoring, cruise control and a GPS mount. However the brakes are quite weak, the stock screen hardly exists and pannier are £700 extra. I don’t need any of that but you might. Weight and engine profile are similar the but the Suzuki is better made and far less vibey than the rattly Loncin engine. If range is a consideration the Suzuki’s tank is 33% bigger and fuel economy is about the same. That being said I’m not sure how well the F800GS is doing as there are plenty of nearly new bikes around in UK dealers at £9K-10K not shifting so you may be able the bargain the BMW down a bit.
Interesting review. It's a nice functional bike for a decent price etc but it's just not sexy or very desirable imo. It won't let you down & that engine's great but it at least needed some better colours.
I think it’s not only better than the 800DE, considering the price and spec, I think it’s one of the best midrange bikes out there. At the moment with a bit of haggling you can snag one for under £9K with free panniers - that’s cheaper than some of the Chinese competition and several thousand cheaper than bikes like the Tiger 900 and BMW F800GS. The looks aren’t a bit different but it’s not awful and you don’t see that many around. Fit and finish looks better than most of the competitors.
Bought a 2024. If considering for US highway touring, suggest you test ride at 70 mph for at least an hour to understand the limitations. Super buzzy and tiring, with significant vibrations from footpegs through handle bars. Perfect as a local commuter, or all day on sub-60 mph curvy roads. Not a highway muncher, though.
I saw a review where the tester said the DE was way more vibey than the 8S. He concluded it was probably something to do with the extra frame rails under the engine on the DE, which this RE doesn't have.
Differences in environmental conditions, most likely. Two things cause engine vibration: lean fueling, and mechanical instability inherent to the moving parts. If you've designed the moving parts to be mostly and nearly smooth, then the vibration is coming from lean fueling. Some places have atmospheric conditions that affect the fueling in a way that increases or reduces the lean fuel buzz. Or just get an ECU flash and eliminate the buzz, excess heat, etc.
It vibrates like hell at around 5K rpm, talking about getting your hand and foot numb. Particularly the right side for some reason. There is also heat coming to your foot,again the right side suffers most. I liked the bike but this is unacceptable.
Yes they are. Less heavy than spoked wheels, also less heavy without tubes. Couple that with 19" instead of 21" and the handling is very much lightened up.
They could lose another 20-30kg if they got rid of that monster pipe on the RE. It might make sense for offroad but its ugly and serve no purpose for road bikes. They can get rid of the power modes and traction control and put cruise control on for the same price. If I can't control the bike without a computer doing it for me then its not safe enough to be selling it, and at this point cruise should be standard on all touring type bikes.
I hate Suzukis…apart from the SV I learnt on which a subtle blend of vintage top loader washing machine and bucking bronco….I don’t doubt this “vstrom” hugely capable but the name sounds as pretty as the bike, as in not at all… ”vstrom” sounds like the name of a chemical hair dye for men going grey (that started for me over 10 years ago!) and coincidentally, this market sector exactly who this Bike is meant to appeal to BUT! For me there is nothing that should be practical about a motorbike…for example, by the time I’ve put on the layers of protective clothing I feel compelled to wear before mounting my steed, I could’ve got to my destination much sooner in a car! Whilst out and about on my bike, I labour under the illusion that all and sundry marvelling at how cool I look when in actual fact it’s only the occasional helmet nod from a fellow delusional that acknowledges my presence. However. I absolutely love it and everything associated with it.. this morning I am in possession of a monstrous hangover for example having had a wonderful evening with friends last night that spiralled sideways like a biker following his Calimoto app. And here I am. In the kitchen making coffee for my wife and I and as always absolutely loving your superb content Rob….. thank you so much mate. I followed you from when you were a fellow Street Twin rider (only missing the earlier Kwak times) and the podcast and UA-cam channel have sustained me with happiness more than you can imagine. The success you now have from your hard graft incredibly well earned. Thank you.
Give it a 17" front wheel like the GSX-S1000GX to spoon on modern sport tyres and then I'll look at it. Ride by Wire but no standard Cruise Control . . . yeah, no, thank you. Cheap bastids. Keep your fugly bike, Suzuki.😒👎
I have one, and love it. All day comfy with a fantastic engine.
I believe this is my next and probably last bike. It's great as a commuter?
I used to have a V-strom 650, years ago. I'm still wondering today why I sold it (for a BMW)... It was a Swiss Army knife of a bike! Good for commuting, for travelling.... and quite cheap to own. A no nonsense bike.
And what's that got to do with this video?
@@grtbgf This one is just an upgrade of the 650 ...
@@lewiss66 no, he just wants to talk about his bikes
@@grtbgf so? nothing wrong with wanting to talk about your expereince and all the things he said does apply to v strom 800re as well, good for commuting, touring, light off road and cheap to own
@@grtbgf Did the cat pee in your cereal this morning?
I bought this as my first ADV style bike. I wanted the DE, as that looks so much cooler, but coming from sportier bikes, the 21” front wheel steering felt strange to me, and I was not certain that I would drive in the dirt.
The handling of the RE is surprisingly good, and I have not regretted my choise.
Great review btw.
I have one. The quiet smooth engine is every bit as good as reported. I’m not usually a fan of twins but this one has completely won me over, easily providing the torque needed on the road. Used sensibly it manages about 68-70mpg (UK imperial gallons), note the on board computer is about 10% pessimistic. I’ve now done 1,300 miles. The engine and gearbox have become smoother with use and the initially stiff suspension is now comfortable. The handling is impressive, all very easy, it inspires a lot of confidence. The bike seems to carry its weight well, it’s light off the side-stand, suggesting the weight is carried low. That would explain its excellent stability at speed, sidewind performance is in a different league from a 2007 Vstrom 650 I had. As the video recommended I fitted different screen; Puig with the adjustable lip. I’m 6 foot and can now travel comfortably at motorway speeds. The ergonomics of the bike seem well judged for someone my height, it’s very comfortable, I can sit for hours, the miles slip by very easily. Downsides; fuelling at very light throttle openings isn’t perfect, very slightly hesitant. Bike looks plain in the green, then again it’s less of a theft magnet when parked outside hotels on tour. If this model proves half as reliable as the rock solid 650 it will be a truly great solo tourer.
Fueling would be perfected with an ECU tune. You wouldn't have to change exhaust or intake for that, and there's good improvements to be had (especially running the engine cooler, which also reduces engine vibration from leanness).
That's impressive mileage per fuel consumption. The tank range must be impressive, which is a welcomed phenomenon today with all the tiny tank trends. Was the Puig screen bigger or smaller than factory? Any increase noise around the helmet?
Veridian sells a plug-in cruise control for this bike, if interested.
@@exothermal.sprocket Puig screen is a good bit taller but only a little wider. They do 2 versions, I have the one with the adjustable laminar lip. No buffeting, clean air stream seems to hit the very top of my helmet at high speed in its current setting which is fine for me. I’m sure I could tune this out by adjusting the height/angle of the lip but it’s so minimal I have yet to experiment. Very happy with the screen, massive improvement over standard which didn’t work for me at all. It’s quite discreet too, unlike the Givi Airflow which looks very obtrusive to my eye.
@@simonroberts8469 Okay nice!
what about the vibrations - is it okay? What do you think of BMW F800GS and comparing the v-strom to? I am thinking of buying one of these two - still cant decide...
@@nrschannel7088 Vibration perception and annoyance seems to be person specific in my experience. A test drive sadly is the only way to know if you will find it problematic on any specific bike. Every bike I’ve ridden has vibrated to some extent at some point in the rev range. Having said that from my perspective the vibration levels on the V-Strom 800 are very low. It’s generally a refined, quiet, and smooth running engine, remarkably so for a twin. The only vibration present is at precisely 5000 revs which is about 70mph. On my bike this is only apparent in the bars. It certainly wasn’t excessive when new as some bike testers have reported and has decreased markedly with added miles to the point I hardly notice it now at 1300 miles. Further up the rev range vibration is again very minimal, the engine loves to rev. through the mid-range and high speed cruising is vibe free. Unlike some other bikes I’ve ridden opening the throttle wide in the mid range doesn’t induce annoying vibration. As to the comparison with BMW 800 I’m sorry I haven’t ridden that bike or engine. I did have a 2010 GS 1200 twin cam, reported to be a smooth engine. The V-Strom 800’s motor in comparison just feels more modern. It’s infinitely smoother, more refined, more willing to rev and just much sweeter in use. Hope this helps.
Bought mine three weeks ago here in america, and I have not regretted it. 😊
Bought mine (DE version) two months ago here in Brazil. 100% happy with the bike.
Hey can you do me a favor and tell me the width of the bar above the odometer is. 😅
I'm looking to get a quadlock setup to mount to it
Suzuki could have Done something with the silencer. It looks like an old vacuum cleaner….
Thanks for the good review 😊👍
I Bought one in 2010 for 6300€ did 121000 km in 11 years and sold it for 3800€ in 2021, pandemic time.
I had zero problems worh this model DL650 2010.
Was one of my best buys ever.
Plenty fun, lovely sound, 10000% bullet proof.
From Portugal to Marrocos, Alps, all Europe. Was amazing.
A bit of corrosion over the years but nothing else.
I have the 8s which has the same engine and pulls smooth absolutely love it. when it was in for service the local dealer loaned me the 800RE same as the one your riding, I was shocked how good it is, it’s a heavier bike but you would not know it, seat is super comfy, handing is excellent and would happily tour Europe. If I had room and the cash I’d have the 800RE too.
I tried the RE today and agree. Having come from their sv650, sv1000, multistrada 1100 I was impressed. Then I got on the 8S and immediately yes noticed it was much more nimble but I did not like how heavy the front felt. the motor is nice for sure. even with the passenger on the strom, it went well
I own the Suzuki GSX-S 1000 GT and had the V-Strom 800 DE during the first inspection of my bike. I absolutely loved it! And I'll never buy a bike without cruise control again. So thank you Suzuki for CC on the GT bike and please put it on more bikes! Thank you. :)
I have a green RE and am very happy with it. I think it a bit strange that some examples vibrate more than others. Mine is relatively smooth and what vibes there are never intrusive. I did find it too quiet though, a slip-on silencer fixed that.😊
The aftermarket has the cruise control problem solved for around $300 usd. I have the Veridian system on my GSX-8R, easy to install and works great.
I also agree with you on the Suzuki engine, I owned a Transalp earlier this year and the Suzuki has noticeably more torque in the rpm range we all ride in. The Honda you really have to rev out to get into the power band, which doesn’t really suit the adventure bike format.
It's very strange the TA having the same peak power as the hornet. The style of bike doesn't suit the state of tune . Previously they were always de tuned for torque. But now the TA makes its power around 9k. Off roading at 9k rpm just doesn't work. Should have made 75hp max
Came here to mention veridian cruise.
The Suzuki is very restricted in factory guise, if you're interested in making about 10-12 horsepower and another 8-9 ft-lb torque, it's possible in the aftermarket and be totally reliable and better functioning (also drop weight).
Just how easy is it to fit the veridian cruise control?
@@exothermal.sprocket if I wasn’t trading my 8R in on a MT-10 I would definitely have done the exhaust/intake/tune route.
I preferred the Suzuki DL650 V-Strom but ended up with a preowned 2017 SV650 in May with only 30,000 km on the clock for a fraction of the price. After 9,000 km including a camping trip to Harz I absolutely love it.
Underrated motorcycle
by who??
They did a neat 3:42 job with it, easy to ride and daily usable
Hey there, from Sofia-Bulgaria, and thanks for the video. On my humble opinion it is the name VStrom that gets you at first. Let's not forget that This is the replacement of the 650! New era,hm😮? Two versions of the same bike as 650and 650xt. Test rode both versions and I find them very well designed in terms of rider 3angle. All that I wish to change for comfort on the 650 is here,just ready to use it.😊. Besides this one gives you more opportunity for upgrades. Bar end weights are biger but the same. The handlebar is bigger in the center as well. As for the windscreen it is wider, because you do not have the plastic hand protectors. Personally I would take the 21front because of off-road capabilities and I love to do some grass walk from time to time. Cheers!
Great review as usual!
PS: You may be disappointed to know I didn't feel "strange on your voice" 😂😂
I have the DE, and find it fantastic fun - vibes are not overly bad, heat not too intrusive, buffeting is ok now the screen is at the low end, don’t need cruise, don’t need tubeless tyres, love the torque, love the handling and the DE suits me better than the RE at my height.
I had a Vstrom 650 which I really liked, but this is much better.
How tall are you. I am 6’3” and wonder is the DE might be better for knees
@@Oscar240z Hi Oscar, I’m 5ft 11”, and it’s fine for me. Maybe you could do with a taller seat, but you should test ride first and get a feel for it. 🙏👍
Nice bike, a lot people get bogged down with techs and specs. It's not all about the horsepower, most of these bikes are more than adequate for most riders 👍
I would love for Suzuki to do a SM supermoto street-only version with sportier 17 inch wheels and tires.
What you're looking for is GSX-8S
@@hanhtoobala7510 The GSX-8S isn't tall enough. I have a Honda VFR800 and BMW K1300S. I need something with more leg room and better long distance ergonomics, and it will hopefully never leave the pavement.
I took one for a test ride last weekend sweet engine and a very smooth gearbox nice riding position.The quick shifter was very smooth up the box but down the gears it was a bit rough
I love mine. 3,000 miles on her clock and she is as smooth as could be. Great bike
Have had mine since July as my first bike. In green, with tall Puig windscreen+spoiler, hand guard, crash-protection bars, additional lights and big topcase. Excellent machine, very tame, pleasant and non-agressive, quite comfy for longer rides. I don't mind the vibrations, which come around 4500-5000 rpm. The only slight downside for me is the top-heavy feeling, especially during slow speeds. It's not a real issue but as a beginner, I have to concentrate more and I don't feel comfortable doing a slower maneuvering, especially in the traffic - yet. But I guess it'll get better over time :).
Can I ask a favor from you. I'm looking to buy a quad lock set up and want to mount it to the bar above the odometer but don't know the width and can't find the measurement anywhere 😅.
@ Sorry to say but I sold the bike last week (I got two new bikes and one had to go). But if I remember correct, it was circa 21-25 mm in diameter.
Having owned a couple of 650XT's and an 800RE, I'd say the 650 is a better bike. The 800RE is the most vibey bike I've ridden such that it sent my hands to sleep. I sold my RE after 600 miles and wish I'd kept my last 650XT. I'll undoubtedly have another 650.
Ive heard a lot of new owners say the same thing, which was an additional reason i went with a used 2014 V-Strom 650 Adventure.
I've got a 650 XT and there's nothing I've seen that would make me switch. The 19/17 tubeless spoked wire wheels are pretty much perfect. I run Michelin's Anakee Road and the end result is a bike that can cover the potholed and patched roads at speed without bending the way the cast wheels do and I can confidently take on pretty much any made road until it turns to mud. The day before yesterday I came across a guy on a KTM 300 EXC who seemed quite surprised I was on that fire trail. He was going much much faster than me, but we were both out there enjoying it, but when I got back to the bitumen he was loading his bike into a trailer while I just rode away down the twisty road.
Cpt 64/4 Trail, Lake Innes NSW 2446 if you want to look at it on maps.
It has one of the best TFT Dashes because it shows all the info you need and doesn't have advanced features of other bikes.
I own a 2023 VStrom 650. Good bike, sublime engine. She is my everything, I don’t own a car. But soon I will, practically I can’t go on without one. Once I do I won’t ride my bike 🏍️ and that will be that. Sadly I will eventually sell it because collecting dust is sad.
I enjoyed multiple day jaunts around California on the 1st gen DL650. I imagine this version is leaps and bounds better doing the same with more highway oomph, the quick shifter, traction control and upgraded suspension.
Can't believe manufacturers are not putting any effort in to design a decent screen!
Once I mentioned the buffety screen as a negative point to a bmw salesman, he said no issues, just change screen. And i say i rather have the company to trial and error than me at £150 a go.
Btw, I found the stock screen on the Transalp very good. Pretty important on a mile mounching bike...
In the summer a smaller screen is much better for the nice air cooling you down. Did find the R1200GS adventure screen worked really well and I could still over it but it still stopped all the wind
I'm the phyco that would turn it into a trackday bike because why not ❤
Mossy did that at Cadwell Park!
Pode ser ingenuidade, mas eu tinha MUITA expectativa que a Suzuki colocasse cruise control nessa versão. É uma crossover... Faria todo o sentido...
Why do bike clothing manufacturers always make black clothes? It's such a bad colour to wear during the night or in poor lighting conditions. As a motorcyclist, you always should be visible to other road users and colour/reflective clothing is key to help other road users see you or help you stand out. Same thing goes for bike colours. Black bikes look awesome, but I personally think it makes you more of a potential hazard. Maybe you can do a video on clothing that's brighter and more fashionable
I would be the Veridian cruise control for the 800DE would work on the 800RE.
Yes the street models, you know where most everyone rides, get little press or attention. The suzuki vstrom 800 and 1050 are wonderful all around bikes. If you dont need a 21' inch wheel then why bother, you can still go off road in emergencies etc.
With Triumph offering simple but standard cruise control on their 2025 660's, it appears that the other major manufacturers are caught flat footed on that point. Perhaps it will be broadly offered by 2026 models on these 700/800 cc bikes?
Apparently not on the Tiger Sport 660 according to my local dealer today, which is bizarre
Get a car. I don’t need cruise and don’t care about it. More sh*t to go wrong!
@@Drzee1968 Prob in 2026
@@Drzee1968 I think it's because of the Sport 800 they are pushing now that has CC as standard.
As a brand new owner of a 09 strom 650 I find this bike appalling to look at but really want one lol
Love the bike, and would have bought it if it had a little more punch in the bottom. For that reason alone I prefer the 1050. But for the rest, it's awesome and relaxed to ride
I don't think you ever find enough punch in the bottom from an 800cc. It's already tuned for low end. Have you ever ridden any of the BmW f800 bikes ?
The 1050 has an extra 261cc worth of punch. That's what he's referring to.
@@exothermal.sprocket Indeed. And my old SV650 had more than enough punch. So the rumour about the 800 not being a real V(strom) is true. But still, it's a great bike.
@@Muilkorfje-NL Not real in what way? Suzuki redefined naming convention because they have the right to do so. It's not about engine cylinders anymore, it's about "V"ersatility. As a package, the 800 is the most advanced and clean-sheet V-Strom to date.
@@exothermal.sprocket You know what I mean. :P And don't get me wrong. I love the 800. It's smooth as silk.
i was so excited about this one till that no cruise control part..that's a bummer
I believe Veridian has a cruise control for this model. $300ish
Agree with you about the screen , I have one in same colour, bufferting is quite bad .
I notice the screen was on the highest setting (of 3). I have a V-Strom 650 as my daily and get buffeting if the screen is raised but no buffeting on the lowest setting.
Call me pedantic but why are they still calling it a V-strom when it no longer has the V engine?
They are saying the V stands for versatility......
DE for dual explorer ,RE for road explorer. And the VStrom is the name that points your kind attention to this new bike
V was used years ago to denote the engine. Suzuki later changed that denotation to refer to "versatility". They have the right to do that, they invented it in the first place. Changing model nomenclature in documentation, part numbers, engine codes, patents, and all the rest is a massive waste of time when you can simply redefine the denotation.
Color of primer? Need brighter for safety.
Had a great test of the 800RE earlier in summer and while the bike was really nice (I mean really nice, quite perfect for my needs) the lack of cruise control was a bit odd and my right leg was absolutely roasted after less than an hours riding. I guess my knees bend at just the right (or wrong) angle for this bike. Shame really, I hope Suzuki will sell loads of these.
Given that the GSX-8R has a comfortable seat-to-peg distance plus wind protection, I'm interested in it, as well as the VStrom 800RE. How do the two compare handling-wise?
Should've added cruise control. Massive waste of opportunity.
Aftermarket is solving that as we type.....
…and many riders couldn’t care less about it
Veridian cruise is a plug-and-play unit that requires minimal setup skill.
Like a stuck record...
Cruise detractors are like a stuck record. Guess who Suzuki will pay attention to, those who become vocal about their would-be purchase, or those Luddites who like cramped throttle arms?
A clip-on to the windshield solved the problem for me.
I found I prefer the re over the de. To be fair most vstroms are riden on black top. Had the others but prefer the 800re. If I'm riding narly stuff I'll ride the drz400.
Last time I saw a V Strom 800 it had a V engine, that I like it very much,when did they dropped for the parallel twin?
In many ways this looks like a good successor to the V-Strom 650, with a similar range of abilities. However, the Triumph Tiger Sport 800 looms..
This road version should had come with cruise control on standart
I rode the Strom 800RE and There are 2 things I really don't like...heat of the engine on the right side, and the engine sound...comfort is great, handling not so much fun like I expected...but I ride MT09
17/21 wire wheel motorcycles aren't going to handle like a 17/17 machine, "tall-rounder" or naked bike. That's to be expected. But take the ADV into a dirt track environment the bigger wheels are welcome. There's videos of the 800DE fitted with big knobby tires ripping up the side of mountains.
I also ride an MT09, the 800RE is a different animal...i wouldn't mind to give the MT for it, as i am on the lookout for a comfy long legged allrounder with a 19 front, but the RE vibrates BADLY and at highway speeds/rpm's, around 5 to 6K rpm's things are TERRIBLE... Other than that there is not really a problem, the clutch is heavier but that's bearable, but i couldn't stand the vibrations,which believe it or not i didn't notice in the first testride...but the second yesterday killed it for me...
@@Panos-xo9rc It's been hit and miss with vibrations on the 800 models (8S/8R/DE/RE) from all the reviews I can find. Some say there's nothing, others say there's something at a specific RPM.
That tells me one thing. The vibration is not from the inherent mechanical design, as there are twin counter-rotating balance shafts. The vibration is from emissions fuel regs which, in order to pass, the regulators require small engines to comply with a certain emitted amount at a specific engine RPM, as well as passing noise regulations at a certain engine RPM measured from a certain distance away.
Lean operating conditions induces vibration. This can easily be tuned out, even without any airbox, filter, or exhaust modifications. ECU flash on otherwise entirely stock motorcycle will remove vibration. Cost? About 350. I had a 2011 new FZ1 that buzzed. After I went through the trouble of freeing up over 20 horsepower and getting it tuned, the vibration reduced by at least 80%. Just disappeared. And that engine had zero counterbalance shafts.
@@exothermal.sprocket thanks for the reply, i will speak with a local tuner here (Athens, Greece) as the bike ticks all the other boxes and really interests me.
@@Panos-xo9rc I would invite you to view the most recent videos by 2wheeldynoworks, just as a cautionary video (no promotion) about tuners. That way you can be sure to get the utmost quality for your money. This is not in your country but the principles are exactly the same.
I am considering this 800RE vs. Tiger850 Sport and wondering how good in terms of comfort as compared to Tiger. Tested both Tiger 850 and 900 and still waiting for this 800RE to be landed in my country 😢 before I pull the trigger. By the way rumors of the new Triumph Tiger800 is launching soon, things just get more exciting now 🎉
Question Motobob
Since I want to buy a tourer and will often have a pillion rider… is it an ok bike for two people on longer journeys? To buy a Tiger 1200 just for the sake of gadgetry and seating is financially stupid (for me) seeing the bike will also be used by me around town on an almost daily basis most months of the year. The 1200 is a bit to cumbersome and heavy in my ho. It is a sweet bike but to much. And I’m not getting any younger. (53)
So pillion rider and shocks… could the RE be the bike for me?
There's complaints online about bar vibrations at 85mph, your right foot getting hot in the summer and the headlights are shite, a solid block of light but no spread and you lose the road on bends. I need a test ride in the spring but it needs to include a quick blast on the motorway.
I'm so glad I started riding in the 1980s. More choice of better looking bikes from the 60s, 70s and obviously the 80s. Nearly all new bikes are leaving me cold in the looks department.
I like your choice
How does this compare to a Tracer 9? Is it much worse driving wise?
I'm considering buying this one or f800 GS. Which one is better in your opinion?
BMW
A fully spec’ed F800GS is about £12K - 33% more than this bike plus in the UK at least, pannier are free at the moment. For that you get ESA on the rear, heated grips, a centre stand, tyre pressure monitoring, cruise control and a GPS mount. However the brakes are quite weak, the stock screen hardly exists and pannier are £700 extra. I don’t need any of that but you might. Weight and engine profile are similar the but the Suzuki is better made and far less vibey than the rattly Loncin engine. If range is a consideration the Suzuki’s tank is 33% bigger and fuel economy is about the same. That being said I’m not sure how well the F800GS is doing as there are plenty of nearly new bikes around in UK dealers at £9K-10K not shifting so you may be able the bargain the BMW down a bit.
Suzuki all day...
Suzuki has the reliability. The GS is a more refined package.
When it's 3 days walk to the nearest cellular coverage, I prefer reliability.
same here, still cant decide between these two....
Why haven't they launched it worldwide?
Interesting review. It's a nice functional bike for a decent price etc but it's just not sexy or very desirable imo. It won't let you down & that engine's great but it at least needed some better colours.
I like the yellow and blue 800de
@@chrishart8548 Agreed, but I was referring to this one, the RE version. ; )
@ragerider6283 the RE colour options are awful. Maybe better colours in the future to make the bike desirable over the earlier bikes
@@chrishart8548 Agreed. It's like Suzuki picked bland colours on purpose so make sure it didn't stand out compared to the DE.
What kind of pipes are available for this bike?. The stoke pipe looks heavy and huge and a little bit ug!. I love kTm😁.
After market yoshimura, akrapovic or modified the original muffler…
What helmets that brother?
I think it’s not only better than the 800DE, considering the price and spec, I think it’s one of the best midrange bikes out there. At the moment with a bit of haggling you can snag one for under £9K with free panniers - that’s cheaper than some of the Chinese competition and several thousand cheaper than bikes like the Tiger 900 and BMW F800GS. The looks aren’t a bit different but it’s not awful and you don’t see that many around. Fit and finish looks better than most of the competitors.
Bought a 2024. If considering for US highway touring, suggest you test ride at 70 mph for at least an hour to understand the limitations. Super buzzy and tiring, with significant vibrations from footpegs through handle bars. Perfect as a local commuter, or all day on sub-60 mph curvy roads. Not a highway muncher, though.
The 800de was a missed opportunity by Suzuki.
Huh? They have an 800 DE
The US website doesn't list the Vstrom 800RE, just as a Vstrom 800. Is it the same?
Yes, same model. Elsewhere in the world it's either 800DE or 800RE. For USA markets the 800RE is simply "800."
@@exothermal.sprocketIt’s the 800SE in Europe.
I've seen it said RE: road edition, DE: dirt edition
I just checked the Suzuki UK website and there's DE and RE versions.
@@exothermal.sprocket I know. I’m talking about mainland Europe, where the RE is known as the SE.
@@siwynjones Which countries? I live in the US.
I'm slightly confused, other reviewers have commented on excess high rpm vibes. Did something change on the RE?
I saw a review where the tester said the DE was way more vibey than the 8S. He concluded it was probably something to do with the extra frame rails under the engine on the DE, which this RE doesn't have.
@@ewganhoff Ah very interesting, thank you for sharing that!
My 8R was pretty vibey for the first couple hundred miles into its break in. I’ve got about 1500 miles on it now and it has mostly disappeared.
Differences in environmental conditions, most likely.
Two things cause engine vibration: lean fueling, and mechanical instability inherent to the moving parts.
If you've designed the moving parts to be mostly and nearly smooth, then the vibration is coming from lean fueling. Some places have atmospheric conditions that affect the fueling in a way that increases or reduces the lean fuel buzz.
Or just get an ECU flash and eliminate the buzz, excess heat, etc.
It vibrates like hell at around 5K rpm, talking about getting your hand and foot numb. Particularly the right side for some reason. There is also heat coming to your foot,again the right side suffers most. I liked the bike but this is unacceptable.
Took one for a test ride and took it home . . .
They're not Vstroms anymore they're Pstroms now...
You’re helmet will affect the windshield height 😊
Being Road wheels I would guess they are tubeless ? 😊
Yes
Yes they are. Less heavy than spoked wheels, also less heavy without tubes. Couple that with 19" instead of 21" and the handling is very much lightened up.
Spitting image of my 10 year old BMW f700GS but 20kg. heavier
They could lose another 20-30kg if they got rid of that monster pipe on the RE. It might make sense for offroad but its ugly and serve no purpose for road bikes. They can get rid of the power modes and traction control and put cruise control on for the same price. If I can't control the bike without a computer doing it for me then its not safe enough to be selling it, and at this point cruise should be standard on all touring type bikes.
Software and cruise are where Suzuki falls short. Windscreen is definitely a miss.
Veridian offers an aftermarket plugin for cruise. Windscreens are a dime a dozen.
Why the hell won't hey add cruise to it? baffling.
Just get the Dirt Edition and have a bike that can do both, this RE is just plain stupid, it would be interesting to know what the price difference is
More stupid than buying a dirt bike and never going on the dirt?
No such thing as a “free” quickshifter…it’s all in the price 😂
yep lol
Unless your name is KTM.
I like bland bikes they don’t get stolen as much
How does It compare with its bigger brother the 1050 ?
Nothing pisses me off more than a vlogger/reviewers constantly waving their left hand while riding.
Stop with the KW’s ! It’s horsepower man!
No offence, but I feel something strange on your voice.
Looks bland in those colour's.would look better in the same colour's as the gsx8s
Has it been designed by AI? Looks as generic as (almost) all the other mid life crisis bikes to me. Is motorcycling dying?
no thanks not for me
I used to have a V-strom 650, fot ten years but now.... what a ugly front...
Name one ADV motorcycle that is "pretty."
@@exothermal.sprocket pretty... But not so ugly? For example :
Tiger 800
Guzzi t85
Morini Gran passo.
Ugly bike but good reviews
Looks way too bland!! 😢😢
Great bike,only so boaring!
test rode it, what a great bike, IF ONLY THEY PUT CRUISE CONTROL ON IT
Also the exhaust is hideous.
I hate Suzukis…apart from the SV I learnt on which a subtle blend of vintage top loader washing machine and bucking bronco….I don’t doubt this “vstrom” hugely capable but the name sounds as pretty as the bike, as in not at all…
”vstrom” sounds like the name of a chemical hair dye for men going grey (that started for me over 10 years ago!) and coincidentally, this market sector exactly who this Bike is meant to appeal to BUT! For me there is nothing that should be practical about a motorbike…for example, by the time I’ve put on the layers of protective clothing I feel compelled to wear before mounting my steed, I could’ve got to my destination much sooner in a car! Whilst out and about on my bike, I labour under the illusion that all and sundry marvelling at how cool I look when in actual fact it’s only the occasional helmet nod from a fellow delusional that acknowledges my presence. However. I absolutely love it and everything associated with it.. this morning I am in possession of a monstrous hangover for example having had a wonderful evening with friends last night that spiralled sideways like a biker following his Calimoto app. And here I am. In the kitchen making coffee for my wife and I and as always absolutely loving your superb content Rob….. thank you so much mate. I followed you from when you were a fellow Street Twin rider (only missing the earlier Kwak times) and the podcast and UA-cam channel have sustained me with happiness more than you can imagine. The success you now have from your hard graft incredibly well earned. Thank you.
Give it a 17" front wheel like the GSX-S1000GX to spoon on modern sport tyres and then I'll look at it.
Ride by Wire but no standard Cruise Control . . . yeah, no, thank you.
Cheap bastids. Keep your fugly bike, Suzuki.😒👎
Aftermarket hubs,C/C available Tight Wad...splash da £££
As ever, just love the MotoB reviews but…jeez surely this is the two wheeled version of a Nissan Qashqai and about as exciting?
I’d rather walk…🚷