2023 Jaguar F-Type R Dynamic vs Audi S4 vs Infiniti Q60 RS. Unusual Match. Drag and Roll Race.
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2024
- 2023 Jaguar F-Type R vs Audi S4 vs Infiniti Q60 RS. Unusual Match. Drag and Roll Race.
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S3 vs S4 vs S5 book it Sam!!
Prolly the 1st time seeing a Jaguar race
We raced a yellow 575hp Jag F Type R last early year. Its a quick cat.
Not a real F-Type without 575hp
You should see me on the streets! Lol
Jag sounds better
That's cause usually the engines in pieces at the dealership lol
Good showing by the Q. Despite the weight and the inferior transmission, it held up well. VR is a great powertrain
VR is a good engine mostly reliable too. Gets overshadowed by the the BMW inline 6 turbo engines, but the VR is a great great value plus the Q50 and Q60 look damn good. Too bad no one offers a trans tune or shift kit for the Jatco 7 speed they use.
@@e46m54nissansr20937 they are working on a Transmission Tune as we speak. A bit delayed, but it’s coming. With a tune from Racebox, it really brings to life the potential of the VR30 & the transmission shifts faster & firmer as well @ WOT. My fastest 1/4 is 11.2 on an AWD Q60 RS w/ no weight reduction on E30. Curious to see what she does once I take her to E50. Looking to break into the 10’s on stock turbos 🤞🤞🤞 Go Racebox‼️
I was happy to see the Q matching the Audi, looks wayyy better
The transmission is fine bro. Especially wen tuners turn up the line pressure. They shift fast don’t let no one tell u it shifts slow. I’m a vr owner and I drive multiple cars and the 7 speed still up to par
@@e46m54nissansr20937 if i had a q i would swap the old trans for the gtr nismo trans 🔥🔥
Q60 is the sexiest 😍
Jag look better
What's so special about this channel is sam and the team show details that we don't normally get to see! Love it and this is my first time seeing Jag race tbh
For having 100hp less than the jag the Audi did great
Love the Jaguar looks and performs pretty well
why is the Q driver shifting way below redline in the roll race?
Yeah uncalled for and very obvious.. I bet they won’t answer this comment
Check out the power curves for the VR30. It gets really flat above 5K.
Can you do the Infiniti Q60 Redsport vs Lexus RC-F? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we've seen them matched up before on any UA-cam channel.
Very Interesting! What about LC500 vs Q60RS?
@@SamCarLegion also a good match up. 👌
Can you bring back the black q60
@@overv434 The tuned Q60? Its sold, he has a M340i now. Sorry you're stuck with my slow Q
@@jimwallace4164 sadly most Q owners are getting rid of theres. I had a 2018 Q60 RS, bolt ons, tuned it on E and put bigger turbos though out the years I owned it but I was still getting beat by cars with less HP. The transmission is ass on these Q’s😢 such a beautiful looking car that had so much potential. They should of updated the transmission a while back.
The Audi is holding its own quite well against the more powerful (50 hp more) Infiniti!
Lighter and its engine is underrated. They make more power than advertised.
@@Eugen-E According to Car & Driver, Q60 RS weighs 3866 ibs and the S4 weighs 3928 ibs!! So, it is the Audi which is the heavier car not Infiniti. Audi may or may not be underrated but if you think Infiniti exactly produces the claimed 400 hp, you are wrong! Japanese have long been famous for underrating their cars.
Based on dyno runs, stock Q60 RS develops around 370 hp at the wheels which translates to around 440 - 450 hp at crank. Of course, different dynos and different results but most of them reveal the fact that this engine is underrated.
@@Messergebnis-liebhaber Germans underrate their cars. Almost all japanese turbocharged cars make what they officially say they make. Put the q60 and the s4 on the same dyno you will see s4 makes the same hp 🙂
He said q60 is heavier.
@@Eugen-E He said but he is wrong. Car & Driver had weighed both cars on the same scale and the Audi has been heavier. I disagree that almost all Japanese make their rated power and also disagree that all German cars are underrated. I have seen many Porsche models that produced their rated powers. In fact, most turbocharged vehicles are somehow underrated because of heat soak issue.
In this case, there is no denying that the Audi is performing much better (less > more).
Another example is Mazda 6 Turbo MPS and BMW 328i F30. Edmunds has dynoed both cars (same dyno) and Mazda had more power and also less weight but BMW could beat it in a drag race because BMW has much wider torque curve and a much better transmission with less drivetrain loss.
@@Messergebnis-liebhaber that's BS because the F30 has a fast 8 speed transmission. Put an 8spd ZF on that Mazda and if Mazda makes more HP it will be faster. You are very stupid if you think germans break the lows of physics and if you say an 8spd auto has less drivetrain loss than an 6spd manual. Bullshit. Have seen tons of dyno runs with drivetrain loss measurement, they all have the same transmission loss if it's the same type, regardless of manufacturer.
And yeah, almost all modern turbo Porsches also underrate their engine power. The GT2 RS 992 makes ~700 crank HP even if they say 650. You disagree because you didn't see them on the dynos. 90% of turbocharged german cars make more power than advertised. Which is not the case with japanese turbocharged cars.
Awesome video Sam. I see you added the 0 to 60 times of each cars. It was indeed a close race. Kudos to you Sam and hope your channel grows even more. Cheers mate!!!
Simple 034 stage 1 on the s4 would be killer
That’s why I want a Audi or b58 a simple tune throwing down good numbers
@@josephparker9726facts can’t go wrong with either platform
Intercooler and stage 1. Audi would take on that Jag
I have a Stage 1 ECU and Stage 2 TCU tune from IE on my 2019 S4 and it's quick.
It would be better if you put a spec sheet before the race (Engine, hp, torque, transmission, driven wheels, weight, tire size, and type)
In roll race 1, the Q driver upshifted very early. Still very close races all around.
I thought the Q60 was faster.. I was thinking it would be a lot closer that car is still my fav out of those 3
That Nissan 7 speed AT is old tech and is kinda slow to respond and shift. Also there isn't good laucnh control like you get on the Audi. The car is also the heaviest of the three.
@@forgottenautos8461 Audi LC is absolute cheater mode lol. Its such a good system!
The guy wasn’t shifting redline and when he was, he would bounce it off the limit before shifting. Driver error
That S4 Launch is fast...I expected the Jaguar to be faster off the line. Good race .
Audi torque is true torque because of Quattro. Quattro puts down all the torque, that's why even if we don't have the horsepower, off the line, we're gonna dust you before your HP catches up to us and passes us. So in real world launches like at stop lights, we can seem faster getting to the next stop light lol😂😂😂 you won't have enough room for your HP to kick in
Everything about the s4 is worth the money , hopefully they continue 2 produce them in the next few years so I can get one .
That q60 has gorgeous lines
Q60 did good with his 3liter that must push over 4000lbs . Heaviest of the group
and more HP than audi too
The q60 shifted soooooo early
Gotta mod the S4!
and the q
@@Angel-es3je facts, I don’t think the Audi fans appreciate that the Infiniti was basically a drivers race with the s4
The same could be said for any of them...
Hey sam, can you set up this jag vs a camaro ss, scatpack, and/or a mustang gt? All automatics.
Maybe you could add the specs of each car (ie HP/tq, weight, engine and tranny type, etc) written on-screen during the introduction? Would be nice to see the specs, in addition to talking about them.
Thanks for the races.
Guy was granny shifting the q60 at 6k rpms, it peaks power at 6800 rpms
Ftype R coupes are gorgeous. If those maintenance bills werent so terrifying, id have a jag. Oh, and if there were actual shops around me that could work on them if needed.
Nice job, Sam
I totally agree!
I have an F Pace svr and it sounds like the F Type SVR, a hungry demon! One of the best sounding non-supercars hands down
@@Sickwitit18 why do we keep equating demons to what’s cool?
@@Sickwitit18 had the chance to hear both f type and F pace SVRs back to back and I must say the Ftype sounds better. Similar, but Jag definitely dialed back sounds after 2017-2018
I'm just curious about the 1/4 mile times? One car length is 0.5seconds? Even at 110mph that's 50m/s so should be a 25m gap or am I stupid?
You are absolutely right about everything you said about the F-Type Sam. But realizability issue is what’s keeping people away from it. IMO.
Reliability isn't the issue in my opinion failure to regularly and properly maintain them is. I owe 5 cars two of which I bought brand new a 2013 A6, a 2017 A7 , a 2018 RS7 (new) and a 2020 Jaguar F-type R (new). Earlier F-types did have issues with hood vents getting water into the engine conpartments, issues with a defective supercharger pulley and the malfunctioning of that cool center A/C vent but were corrected in latter versions. Ive never had any major issues with my cars but I acredit it to keeping up with the maintenance. The 5th car? A 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS my "ride or die" whip. I don't care if I'm in the middle of a hurricane, haven't driven it in a year or driving across the Sahara it refuses to let me down.
s4 did run way better than i was expecting. His power is waaaaay lower and he also have waay much more transmission losses than other two cars.
False. The engine is underrated. They make more power than advertised. And yes, it was the lightest.
@@Eugen-E Not, is not. 13sec in definitely NOT a good time for anything but @350bhp awd.
Then about "lightest".. 🤣.. biggest BULLSHIT i've never heard. Your 100pounds means for the rest of the planet and for any student.. some 45kilos!!! How many races you won because you dropped 40kg, in range of 350-450bhp awd cars? 🤣. By the way, those weights are the communicated/claimed BY MANUFACTURERS of cars, which can vary A LOT in real products, not to mention about some design modifications, options added or some aftermarket exhaust.
@@napraznicul There are lots of dyno testing that confirms they underrate engine power. It definitely has more than 350 crank hp.
Good racing that day Sam. Worked out having Staz pop by with the new stock S4, made this odd race that much more compelling and fun to watch. At least I didn't get beat as badly as when you had the 575bhp yellow Jag FType R!
A simple e85 stage 1 tune with 034 Motorsport and that S4 wins 😎
Same could said about the Q60, both great platforms 🙌
Stop studying what people say about it doesnt make sense. We appreciate what you do. I like this new intro. Your first intro and this intro tops
Nobody on youtube has done a drag between the supra and the higher output 387bhp version of the z4 m40i..would love to see that 🙌🏻
Coming soon
Supra would still win imo
They have the same engine and trans, if anything Z4 could lose due to being convertible and a bit heavier lol
The guy in the Q60 isn’t shfiting it properly. Granted i get that the 7 spd auto in the infiniti doesn’t shift as quick as the zf 8 spd both the s4 and f type has but he could’ve shifted it at 6.9k and actually get the shift at 7.2k rpm😬 @Sam if you ever need a driver, give me a call.😅
That's my thoughts, I don't get why ppl short shift. A lot of ppl say shifting at 6500-6600 is best in the VR, but I got 4.6s 0-60 & 12.99 1/4 mile shifting at 7k-7100 in a stock Luxe. I don't think I would've got those times shifting at 6500-6600.
you are hilarious sam haha, so close!! so close!!... you are 3 cars ahead! ahha. great video
Almost
Remember those reactions are real time in the moment, viewers get the benefit of seeing the video footage after the fact. At 200kph - in real time, while driving, the three cars looked very close.
@@jimwallace4164 that’s real being real right there. 🍻
Jag all the day ... a beautiful mounster cat
Nice! I really like the Jag!
So a low end jag vs a mid range Audi vs top of the line infinity??
You guys should use the paddle shifters makes a big difference in shift times.
If your shifting is on spot
Q60 RS guy can’t shift.
Would love to see the jaguar vs c43 , vs m340 vs audi s5, Ghibli, vs Alfa Romeo??
Love the Jag!! Gorgeous spec!!!
Yay for Sam and his races !!!!!
If I had to guess the Jag disengaged it's front axles after a certain mph, best of both worlds!
11:34 infinity shifted up early
Agree 100%
To be fair I think he just gave up knowing he hit limiter the first time, cause 2nd roll he didn't shift at 6k
@@RevsALot even 6k is too early. The engine makes full power at 6400.
@Eugen E I know it is, I think he gave up so short shifted. 2nd roll looked like he shifted around 6500-6600 each time, and he won vs. The S4 that run.
Want to see F type p450 vs Z4 m40i 387bhp version
imagine if the q60 had launch control
Same thing as holding the brake and staying at 2500rpm. The weight of the car was the main killer in this race, the rwd premium 3.0t version is the lightest therefore the best version.
@@2seep idk, with launch control, every car seems to do at least 0.2-0.3 faster 0-60. Around 4k rpm launch for this car would be definitely faster
@@2seep Brake Boosting is not the same as launch control...
infiniti tiene un excelente motor, lo unico en ese modelo es la transmision que tiene, claro el interior y algunos detalles, como el dise;o ya para este 2023/2024 debe actualizarse y cambiar. el jaguar me impresiona, no sabia que era tan rapido. audi siempre es veloz.
Whoever driving the q60 cant shift
Can you please make video of audi A6 vs q50s vs Jaguar XF???
I raced an older Ftype R a year or so back and it was door to door with me until 80ish when it started walking away. If memory serves I did a 3.6 to 60 against him... is this new Type R model level thing new? I thought they only came in R and SVR flavors. Good video as always! Love the content.
F-Types come in only two models now: P450 and R (575HP). SVRs, V6s, and 4-banger models are all done.
@@lockingdiff shame, the SVR was one of the most ridiculous and chaotic sounding cars to come from factory
@@lockingdiff oh good to know! Thank you. I don't follow them so this is all surprising.
@@Sickwitit18 Yes, the optional titanium exhaust on the SVR was pretty insane. Fortunately, there is a fuse you can pull on the 2021+ F-Types that'll keep the valves always open on the exhaust, so they can still sound just as amazing as before
@@lockingdiff oh damn that's nice!
The Q60 driver was napping. LOL.
Aye!! Sammyy surely you do a race between Volkswagen Scirocco r, Volkswagen GTI mk8 and Volkswagen Golf r mk8
That Jag pulls hard in 3rd gear
i often wondered why people were so quiet about the F Type.
its perfect. if i could afford it i would run to get one. i love the body design. reminds me of Datsun.
What’s crazy is we say the Jaguar is heavy at 4,000lbs with a supercharged V8 and AWD, but then there is the true heavy weight in the Lexus LC500 at 4,300 lbs, no awd or supercharger. Just fat
2 seater coupe/roadster vs 4seater coupe/Cabrio, that's part of the cause too
That was a close one, jaguar stil edged out with the higher hp.
V8's man, they just have longer legs....
Anytime there is an Infinite in the group you know the actual race is between the other two cars.
Not this case though. I suppose you commented before watching the video?
Lets go Q60!!!
A stock RWD. M340 would have been nice instead of the Infiniti. Still a great video as usual
That makes no sense
I would like to see my car in stock form destroy the other two! Makes plenty of sense lmao
show spec on screen please , that half sec difrence visual wasnt
Sam i want see a 5.0 10r80 stock vs a stock Toyota supra
It’s not the “supercharger takes it in the end”, it’s the big V8 with its top end over a 2.0 liter 4 that takes it in the end.
The Jaguar is beautiful..wow.
Audi doing well at 340 hp. Good stuff. Jag was too light.
well, it is the lightest car in this race
They make more power than advertised.
@@Eugen-E not much more, but they do make a little something.
It was a superb race 😁👌The Audi as nice Classical look, the Jaguar is a different animal i like it however that Q60 just looks chic don't know if it's the colour, the lines and curve just seems times and the add on's very tastefully gone..
Audi wins
340hp vs 400 vs 440
That's alleged "400 HP" from the Infiniti. Thing probably loses 90hp in the drivetrain.
Same with the Audi 349hp it’s not 340whp
Model 3 performance Tesla vs BMW M340i please 🙏
It's been done
The Jag sounds like its engine is broken. That sound would drive me crazy. That said, I love the looks of the Jag.
Good old supercharged V8 taking the W.
Nice premier.
I wanna join a video with my g80 m3 if u would have it 👀
Just message me on IG
Jack as king of race
I'm very impressed with the S4 even being down in horsepower and definitely holding its own.
Q60 had the 2nd spot 👌 good job INFINITI
🤦♂️🤣
Would love to see more races with the m240i if you can manage it sometime.
Ngl at the beginning of the video when both cars were 2023, I was expecting the infiniti to be like 2014 but I was impressed that it's infact a 2022... Lol
Anyone notice in the 1st roll race, the drivers shift points, in the Q60, from 11:32 to approx. 11:38? It seems like they purposely, were throwing the race!? The Q60 likes to be shifted @ 6,800 Rpm, for optimal performance!
great video!
Por 30 mil dólares de diferencia entre el Jaguar y el Infiniti.
Prefiero el Infiniti. La diferencia en velocidad o tiempo se recupera y sobrepasa con un buen piloto en curvas.
Es decir, si solo comparamos la potencia y velocidad por 30 mil dólares menos obviamente el infiniti q60, lo necesario es un buen piloto todo terreno. Eso hace la gran diferencia, costo beneficio.
Saludos! 🇲🇽🇺🇸
Put the jag vs stinger vs 240i vs M2 vs C43 vs Audi S5
Hell yeah !! 😜😜
Ive been asking for a fpace svr race for like a year lol. Plz get the fpace svr on the channel
Cant find one :(
Don't know how in the second race how the Jag was only one car length ahead if that. Yet was a half a second faster over the other two (13.0 vs 12.5) doesn't make sense
I would choose the infiniti just because I love Japanese cars.
I don't always watch this channel. But when I do, he ALWAYS sleeps on Audi's launch from a dig.
Well folks, now you know the difference between a 50, 52, and 108k vehicle lmao
That S4 probably 80k cause of dealer markups 😂😂
@@Infamousdee240 yeah so let’s say 60k, 80k, 120k
@@Infamousdee240 ain't no way S4 has a mark up lol who buys Audis lol
@@V1perKiller i looked up some , they’re ranging from 69-80k
@@Infamousdee240 it's surprising to me, since Bimmers don't get marked up with higher demand.
Good morning gents , infinity takes it
Morning!
Q60 won the second race you can clearly see it when u froze the end
Alright! 😎
In roll race 1 the q60 driver wasn’t shifting right that’s why he lost to the Audi am a q owner so I was mad lol like come on man!😂💚
The moral victory goes to the S4 holding its own although down on power.
That F-type is sexy
That Infinity is pretty awesome for its price
I miss the Elantra N on this channel
Sam saying very close as he pulls 😂
🥶🥶🥶
The Jag looked like it got a late jump off the line.
I hate to say it that Audi sounded like a sewing machine.
Will like to see audi a6 stage 3 vs S4 and will like to see audi A6 stage3 vs infinity q60rs modded out
Vip😊
S4 rlly sounds like Michaels car from GTA
Amazing video