SPITFIRE P9374 - discovery and reconstruction
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- SPITFIRE P9374.- The remarkable story of the discovery and reconstruction of a Supermarine Spitfire.
Presenters: JAMES HOLLAND - JODIE KIDD
Director: THOMAS PULLEN
Cameras: TOM SWINDELL - TIAGO KINGWELL
Sound: RICHARD EADES
Music: NIKKY FRENCH
Film Editor: SAMI ABUSAMRA - MATT SCHOLES
Text Editor: DAN DAVIES
Digital Designers: LEON ST-AMOUR - ERIC AHNEBRINK - HUMFREY BRANDES
Producers: SUSAN DOYON - NICK ALDRIDGE
Executive Producer: JANE BURTON
Gramafilm and Christie’s - All archival images courtesy of Peter R Arnold, Col Pope, Andy Saunders and Grub Street Publishing - All aerial footage and stills copyright 2011, John Dibbs - www.christies.com/spitfire - Copyright Christie’s 2015
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America was welcomed to the war table when they eventually decided the time was right, after having left England to her fate for the first couple of years of the war, which she overcame the luftwaffe against the odds. But by its gloating and arrogance in professing to have won the war, America does not garner much support. It was a world war with lots of countries involved who suffered monumental losses. America didn't win the war single handedly, it was a collective effort for humanity against a tyranny.
I fully agree ! You have the courage to pronounce these wise words ! Many natuons indeed contributed in this long tragedy. But Americans are so full of themsellves they incline to forget other heroes. Thank you for your contribution. Fine greetings from a Flemish citizen, Antwerpen, Belgium.
AGREE.
Sadly far to many people of all countries get their history education via television/movies.Yes it is annoying when these sentiments are voiced, but it should be remembered that the individual (rude idiot) does not speak for the whole. And it’s quite possible that the person who would utter this nonsense might be suffering for Hollywood-History derangement syndrome.
Without the USA you would have lost. There would not have been any D-Day.
@@cliff9455 And had we lost say in October 1940 you are correct because even you God Almighty Arrogant Yanks would have had nowhere to launch the invasion of Europe. So our victory in the Battle of Britain in 1940 was pivotal to the eventual outcome of what was a WORLD War. So much that the British Empire could fight on, on many fronts around the globe. Yes the American navy and the Marines also played a pivotal roll in the Pacific against the Japanese, but also don't forget that our scientists helped greatly in the Manhattan Project, the development of the nuclear bombs which caused Japan's unconditional surrender. You Americans who proclaim "We won the war" are delusional. It was a collective effort from us all. Thank God we had WinstonChurchill as our Prime Minister, and in America Franklyn D. Roosevelt as it's President. Both men knowing that we had to beat the Nazis and Facist's in Europe , and the Japanese in Asia. We in England stood alone for over two years so that collectively we could go forward and fight the Evil empires.
Love Love Love this Beautiful aeroplane, just Gorgeous !
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Samantha Mercedes Staff great aeroplane. I admire aircraft and ledgendary aircraft you too?
Samantha Mercedes Staff sat in one from the second ww,1992 in the museum in England,absolutely wonderful to touch a part of history😆
The photography from 6:20 onwards is some of the best Spitfire imagery in flight I think I've ever seen!
My father’s younger brother P/O Roy Mottram RAF 42870 flew this Spitfire on 25th April 1940 formation flying practice. he had joined 92 Sqn on 20th April 1940.
What a beautiful elegant plane. It's hard to put the magnitude of these adjectives into words as you see the spitfire glide gracefully in the sky.
There is possibly no more evocative sight in aviation than the shape of the Spitfire wing. I have been to the last two Classic Fighters Oamaka air shows and when each of the three Spitfires was performing I nearly wore the camera out, knowing that somewhere in the clutter would be a gem.
I have the gem as my desktop photo and I never get tired of looking at it.
I’ve been to Duxford dozens of times, and managed to take my Son, a few years ago. There has always been a Spitfire testing or practicing for displays. With more than a dozen Spitfires based there, the sights and sounds reduce me to tears, trying to imagine the enormous task this group of young men faced in 1940. I now live in the US. I hear American veterans speak of saving Britain. I respect their bravery, very much, but without Britain beating-back the might of the Luftwaffe, in the Summer of 1940, there would have been no Britain to save! We were mere weeks away from our fragile economy collapsing under the demands of fighting an enemy Air Force that was twice the size of the RAF, and was populated with hundreds of aces, many with more than 50 kills, or more, having fought in the Spanish Civil war, and having taken-over Poland, Czechoslovakia, France, Austria, Finland and other European neighbors who barely caused the Germans to slow down. Whether I see a Lancaster, Spitfire or Hurricane, the sound and sight always stop me for a moment, as i thank the tens of thousands of people who built, supported and flew for the RAF. We owe them our very existence.
That's just national bias from americans' side. Don't worry, most people begin to respect a country if they learn more about it, be it Britain, USSR, France or Italy (last 2 had lacking commandment, but great and brave airforce)
Hear hear sir. Well said!!
Spitfires and Mustangs were sold off as scrap 100£ in aussie '48 '49
This Spitfire is like a lot of old birds that are around now that weren't around when I was a kid....they are NOT original or "restored"...before someone flames me for that statement, let me explain. Much like the Yak 3/9 aircraft that were built in the 1990's, and I have seen a couple of those fly, I consider those Yaks(and the new-build FW-190's and ME-262's) very much REAL Yaks,FW's, and Messerschmidts, albeit with non-original engines, even if they are new-build. I don't like the term"replica", as that seems like something less than a real one. I view this Spitfire, the Curtiss P-40 Pearl Harbor Veteran, Grumman F3F's,etc. the same way,except they are even more authentic in that they have the correct engines. In other words, I view this as a very beautiful REAL new-built Spitfire Mk 1, but it is NOT "restored", or even "rebuilt". "Re-created", maybe....
it would have been helpful to know when you were a kid.
I started aircraft spotting in the early 1970's when there were very few warbirds and when a Spitfire was a genuine rarity. Nowadays, the warbirds at places like Duxford are so numerous that I often wonder who has all the cash to keep all these planes flying.
It's not a bad thing to see so many recreations but the casual observer doesn't get the same exclusive buzz as 50 years ago because 'special' aircraft are not quite so rare - and therefore special - any more.
That was done very well. Experts, history, no celebrity "talking at you" with half baked facts. Very rare these days to watch and enjoy.
What a devoted bunch of people. Who work tirelessly to restore and keep alive the history that helped shape the world of today. Hats off to you all. Thanks.
Tip of the hat to the rich guy who decided to save it...... thank you 🍻
Makes you wonder where all the money comes from to do this stuff - the specialist restorers are seemingly working flat out to restore even the rustiest wrecks - an industry that almost didn't exist 40 years ago.
@@Exige000 It's owned by the Imperial War Museum in the UK ... a very large charity that restores and maintains our heritage and respects our fallen
@@oliverbourne9599 sadly it doesn't. Two Dunkirk spitfires were restored, this one and N3200. N3200 is owned by the IWM and this one in question went to a private owner in the states.
Bit crap really.
The picture of the spitfire buried in the sand was actually a picture of N3200, another mk1 spitfire that was shot down over Dunkirk
N3200 is my personal favourite I've seen it beautiful aircraft.
Nope, that was P9374, you can tell by the markings of the two planes
The most beautiful machine ever
Yes, as the restorer correctly pointed out, very "authentic," and that is far from synonymous with "original." It's always fun to see someone authoritative gracefully steer the out-of-their-league questioner back to actual truth. Anyway, a Mark I in the air, despite how much of it was replicated, is a fantastic thing. At least the French didn't protest the "disturbance of a cultural resource" as might happen in some places, sometime.
All you need is the airframe data plate and voila ! , yes it is a good idea to know the reality of these restorations but even those that did not go through a total wreck scenario have a greater proportion of their components renewed purely because they have a finite service life and that service life can be relatively short because of vital safety precautions aterall a pilots life is at risk.
If you see the pictures of the wreck after the French dragged it out of the beach with a tractor, there is very little of the original.
xvdd1 I think there is one Spit that has not had a total rebuild with major skin replacement and that is a PRXI. It even has it’s original Merlin 70 engine.
Restore is not accurate. This a hand built, new aircraft that incorporates a few original pieces from the original.
You mean it's not completely original. I don't think anyone is doubting that.
I have my Great grandfathers axe that has been handed down over the generations.. it has only ever had 2 new handle's and 1 new axe head.
There's always one.
@@aussiedeplorable8670 You are not wrong ! Have you Ozzies got a word for that type ? You lot usually manage to have a word that fits. Let us know.
Lest we forget!. Brilliant job on preserving such an important iconic aircraft. Hats off the the skilled restoration team and to the man who purchased the wreck and decided to restore it to it's original specification. Lovely to see the aircraft in the sky where it belongs.
Thank you to all the people who take the time to restore a piece of History. The Spitfire is so well known all over the World. :-)
The word is "recreate" NOT 'restore'.
Love the mighty spitfire🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
My favourite Spitfire Mark 1 . The purest Spitfire.
New Zealand Spitfire ace, Alan Deere agreed. In his book, "Nine Lives" he considered the Mark I the epitome of the design - I'm paraphrasing here because I read the book when I was a teenager. He was not so fond of the later, heavier marks although he cannot have been displeased when the Mark IX came online and restored parity with the FW 190. In Nine Lives he recounted his wing's first encounter with the 190, in which, flying Mark V Spitfires, the wing lost eight to two 190s, one of them claimed by Deere.
I recently spent the afternoon with this spitfire in Worcester Mass. in the USA,, it showed up at a Collings Foundation event along with a Corsair. To watch it fly is amazing, sheer grace. Not the first spitfire I have seen but definitely the most impressive. The restroration was incredibly detailed, it looked like it left Supermarines works yesterday. I would like to thank anyone who had anything to do with its restoration, its return to flight and its new owner for giving me the opportunity to see this particular spitfire up close, something I never thought I would see.
In his book, "Nine Lives", the New Zealand Spitfire ace, Alan Deere said the Mark I was his favourite. He didn't have the same affection for the later heavier, more powerful marks.
"Restoration"... Amazing what some Yanks will believe. Look back at 5.23 and think ...
Peter Bloggs it is a restoration
Fun to read the comments, all the Fuss over Restored, Rebuilt, no it's a New Build.
The days of finding an Air Worthy plane from the 40's in a Garage are long gone. There are still a few intact plane in sheds, but those to will be a thing of the past. There all known. What's left are the Forgotten Wrecks.
Even if you do find a complete air frame. You'll still need to replace most of the skin and many braces due to Corrosion after 70/80 years.
Every "Restoration" is a "Rebuild", but Not Every Rebuild is a Restoration.
Spitfire for all time ! thanks.
One can see the beauty in this aircraft Bravo to those who put their talents to the test. Great job!
Let's not kid ourselves. This is a recreation......little of what came out of the sand was usable and it's noticeable the discussion glosses over that. In essence it is just an airframe number reserected......
.......but what a reserection! And on a positive note, that brand new airframe has many decades of fatigue life left in it, way beyond that of tired originals which will need much new material to put them back in thd air when their hours run out.
A nobal and worthy project......
Wonderful job , like a Phoenix , would love to polish it and kiss the old girl , beautiful airplane
Restore what? There wasn't much to restore, maybe just the engine and not much else. The plane is what? 10% original?
There's always a dweeb that a desires to buy a Spitfire. I've been following the mk IX "Y2K" restored in Comox and Gatineau. for 18 years. Nice to see it parked on the apron as I drive by. ua-cam.com/video/o3GfIgYx1Hk/v-deo.html
Spitfire and Mustang ,the sisters of the air . Winged Victory . 1940 to 1945/46 . Thank you . .
Outstanding clip of the owner talking about looking for a Spit!
The English Longbow of the 20th Century.
Incredible. Hours a detailed work, what a fantastic plane, you can see why it epitomises our finest hour
Have recently flown in the back seat of a restored Mk9 and taken the controls. There is no experience, better.
I think the length of time a restoration takes is probably down to more stringent safety regulation today if the machine is going yo fly.
Like Samantha said Beautiful!
You know I feel kind of bad I wish there was some way more we could honor those who sacrificed so much I feel like the best way to honor them would be to respect and understand their sacrifices so that time does not repeat but it appears that we can't do that I love airplanes the Spitfire is one of my favorites I hope one day I can make my own
Wondering what is left from the original plane...
hawker hurricanes did most of the work but spitfires get all the fame xd
there were twice as many Hurricanes than Spitfires in B of B that why they have a higher score rate, but the Spitfire was the better fright thought out the war that why it is the more famous of the two
The two planes come from very different design cultures.
Sidney Cam had been designing war planes for the RAF for decades, and the Hurricane carried all the lessons learned with it. Easy to fly. Easy to land. Good ground handling. Strong wide undercarriage. Concentrated fire power. Easy to maintain in the field. Quick turnaround time for reloading and fuel. Easy to manufacture and repair.
Reginald Mitchell was designed several types but his most famous was the race planes for the Schneider cup races. Everything on these designs was about speed. This meant a thin wing, which meant a narrow undercarriage mounted to the fuselage, and the guns being spread out along the elliptical wing. Complexity of design and manufacture was welcome if it increased aircraft speed.
Both designers achieved their goals, in their own way - and saved a country.
Or so it seems to me.
Nice plane, but it's still a replica...
The tragedy? Typical. The pilot now knows exactly the status of the plane as well as where it will be in the future.
I bought the book of this a/c. Not only the rebuilding of the dragged-to-shore mess but the remanufacture of the very early Merlin and especially the propellor hub were incredible. I frequently re-read that section.
I would like to refer many of you to the “rebuild” of a wooden sailboat of any age whereby if even one single piece of the original boat is incorporated into the rebuilding, it is then classified as a “Rebuild”. A good example of that might be a vessel of over 100 yrs of age name “TALLY HO” which falls into this category, currently being rebuilt in Port Townsend, Washington State, USA, by a young fellow from Bristol England. Google it & follow his remarkable skills of craftsmanship in bringing this old boat back to life. It does have a few parts from the original, but much of it is brand new construction.
Lovely to hear people so devoted to, so protective of, so enthusiastic, about Spits. Though I do love Lancs. And Hurries.
I had no idea about Jodie Kidd's grandmother, was it? If I bothered with jealousy, or envy, I probably would be.
What an extraordinary time to live through.
And look what has happened to the wonderful country these heroes defended
Chaulk that up to a case of the chickens coming home to roost.
Sat in that Spitfire in the Summer of COVID Year 2020 at IWM Duxford. Awesome experience!
When this was rebuilt, was it a data plate rebuild? I can't imagine much being salvageable from a wreck buried in salty water for 40 years
Tim Guttesen pity it’s last pilot never got to see the end result
Watch the Video, they talk about that exact subject.
The Hurricane is widely regarded as being more instrumental in winning the Battle of Britain than the Spitfire.
Yes, we are well aware of that fact. The Hurricane was a great fighting machine that took on the Bombers, mostly, and was awesome, rugged, and a great workhorse. However... the Spitfire had a beauty that cannot be described - not to deprive the praise deserved by the Hurricane, but to supply the myth that we all needed to give us hope. We favoured the Spit, whilst acknowledging that the Hurricane did the bulk of the work. The Spit held the flag, whilst the Hurri did the work...and we know that. Icons were never created on truth. Live with it, that's how it is, and we all know it....
@@lauriecroad3186 Bravo. Well said 👍👍
@@lauriecroad3186 The British are good at creating myths and distorting history to cover up for some of their woeful failures. The spitfire was an excellent plane to fly but it did not save the world as some believe. It had a short limited range. Terrible narrow landing gear that killed many pilots. It cost 3 times as much to produce as the hurricane. Lost power in a dive. It was useless on the Eastern front and against the Japanese. It was butchered by the FW 190 and ME 109. The later Griffon engine variants were faster but by then there were many equal or better aircraft.
Yes indeed but it was a bit of an ugly duckling and the emotions will always be drawn to the Supermarine design.
@@ALA-uv7jq In order to cover up shortcomings and still be credible, one has to have some fairly strong stories and genuine history to start with.
OK, the Brits have glossed over a few of their less glorious moments but there are far more genuine heroics which support the general narrative so, instead of moaning about how lousy the Spitfire was, I suggest you go with the tide of good feeling about the gorgeous Spitfire with its aesthetics and even more wonderful soundtrack. Nostalgia is a strong drug.
They may be beautiful but let's not forget they were also deadly beasts that helped save us from the Hun.
Great video. Sadly spoilt by that irritating background noise at the beginning.😞
Thomas. Awesome human. Thank you.
all this effort and the film makers couldnt use a tripod? whats with all the shakey camera ?
definitely THE DOVE OF PEACE
7:17 Bremont or IWC wristwatch ?
Marvellous video! Thank you!
Beautiful, but sadly not the same plane........ It's just a brand new one with 2 or 3 little bits of the original one bolted to it
Wow
Amazing
What a wonderful aircraft, and highly authentic looking.
But sadly this aircraft didnt really exist during ww11, it is a extremely accurate replica with a few original components.
Incredible anything was left after decades sand and salt.
What a wonderful tribute to ww11pilots, of which my father was one, ( Albert Noyes, flying instructor, Ambala India).
It exists now and people like us can appreciate it. That's the important part.
@@MarsFKA
Yes indeed sir, it certainly does exist, and a wonderful tribute
However I personally look at it and think that almost everything I'm looking at didn't exist in wwll, it seems be to my eyes a new built replica, albeit visually identical to a genuine mk
1 spitfire, some people see it as the very same aircraft that crashed at Dunkirk, l see it as an exact replica.
Either way it is a truly remarkable achievement, and full marks for them utilizing those relatively few airworthy parts remaining.
I think we share a common love of aircraft! :-)
Kind regards from me, Geoff.
Poor Hurricane. I love you. X
I agree with all you said
❤️❤️❤️❤️
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There really is bugger all of the original plane, it was virtually destroyed when the French dragged it out of the sand with a tractor. It’s really a new build.
What a really touching and viewable documentry, well done to everyone, not least R.J.Mitchell himself, the real magician in this!
@5:23 but how??.. from that pile of metal torn to pieces be able to build such a beauty? do the british have the ability to build a virtually new one from old plans, reverse engineering ?
Yes, they do. Look up ARco. they are the ones that did this restoration, along with many more.
This spitfire is a Replica spitfire..not an original spitfire..to say her relative flew this spitfire in ww2 is a farse..it’s a replica and to imply otherwise is misleading..Please stop misleading people..
its not a replica it is a dataplate restoration with an authentic identity, a replica is an aircraft with an entirely new identity
Don't forget the £££'s
@soaringtractor Not you again ! You really must pop along to your Doctor and see if he can´t advise you on where to get that chip on your shoulder removed. It is beginning to unbalance your mental state. Could I ask if you have German ancestry ? It doesn´t matter if you do but it may be a contributory factor in the growth of that debilitating chip on your shoulder. Here´s wishing you all the best with your forthcoming treatment.
Gorgeous...the airplane of all airplanes!
or even the aeroplane of all AEROPLANES.......it was a British aircraft - not American.
After the battle of Britain the German air force was never the same😢
@soaringtractor How did I know that a wanker like you would be here to slag off the Spitfire, WilburFinneganSorearsetractor. you can never let things go can you. An Irish immigrant who thinks anything British is shit and boy do you take time to attack, at every opportunity, the success of the fighter. I made a post on another video about an 80 year old guy from England who, for the last 70 years has raised a memorial to 10 American bomber crew that perished coming into land in a B17 after being mauled by the Luftwaffe. He was so upset, he raised, and has maintained this memorial for 70 fucking years. He does not spew hatred, he has tears when talking about these 'special men'. Why don't you take a fucking leaf out of his book and be a bit more humble. You can't you see, you are so full of hatred and vitriol for anything British it irks you just to see anything British being celebrated.
Another chapter in the Spitfire myth. Yes it looks and sounds marvellous and was among the very best in its day. Sadly this machine barely has an original nut, bolt or washer in it. Built by some talented and skilled people from scratch to satisfy the whim of a bloke with more money than he knows what to do with. And as soon as it's finished.....he sells it! This film appears to be a glossy brochure for the auction. Nice aeroplane though.
Couldn't agree more. Nice to see another Spit in the air but it sort of dilutes the legacy of the genuine aircraft when there are so many 'new' Spits and others.
@@Exige000 My thought is that, regardless of the origins of the individual aircraft, seeing Spitfires flying *enhances* the legacy. When these wonderful aircraft are flying, no one watching them cares about whether they came out of a factory during World War 2 or a restoration workshop ten years ago.
There are three Spitfires flying in New Zealand: two Mark IXs - one of them a two-seat trainer - and a Mark XIV. The two-seater and the Mark XIV are the genuine article, but the other Mark IX is a restoration/rebuild by Brendon Deere, who displays it in the colours of the Mark IX flown by his uncle, Alan Deere, when he commanded the Biggin Hill Wing - Alan Deere was one of New Zealand's leading Spitfire Aces.
I have had the opportunity of getting up close and personal with Deere's Spitfire when it has been parked in the hangar before the daily activities at air shows and all the little signs are there that this is a working aircraft and not something that was made to gather dust in a museum. When it gets out and does what it was made to do, not a single soul that is watching it cares about its origins. The wonderful sound of that engine and the shape of that beautiful wing are, simply stated, perfection. There are probably no more evocative sounds and sights in aviation.
Seems to me more and more Spitfires are being restored or remanufactured. I was delighted to see 16 of them in formation on video at Duxford. I think even more were airborne during 75 years BoB. Saw a PR version for real on a grass strip at Redhill. Heard it fly over the town as I came out of the Pub after a nice dinner and a pint. I couldn’t believe my luck. Ordered the family quickly into the car and spead off to the Aerodrome. It prepared for a summers evening display over a castle where they had a Night of the Proms I was told. I just imagined the orchestra playing Land of hope and glory and a lone Spitfire appearing at that very moment to show what it is capable. Chills down my spine and I am not even British!