Lenda is only diminishing her legacy with interviews like this one. The thinly veiled insults don't paint her in a good night. At the end of the day Iris Kyle was the superior bodybuilder...more genetically gifted in a variety of ways. Lenda is a legendary champion in her own right, and one of the most impressive female specimens you'll ever see. She had the looks and the body. Surely she can begrudge Iris her lone advantage over her.
She has achieved alot. I think she stands for feminine aesthetics as a bodybuilder. Iris kyle has 9 Os but takes a whole different angle of it. It is actually cool to hear her share her opinions as she is a rep of the sport. Iris, also has her stance and a strong one. But the legacy is forever with Corey Everson and Rachel Mclish.
Iris wanted 2 blurr the line or double standard of steroid abuse between men and women, Iris had better genetics and maybe less charisma & professionalism than some others.
I love Lenda, but I think she is just angry that Iris beat her in competition and beat her record. Lenda has been very vocal in previous radio conversations going back to 2004 about her disliking of Iris and the issue between them go back to the press conference in the 2004 Ms. Olympia where Iris verbally attacked Lenda's lack of leg and calf development (see www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-111506207.html) in order to get her point across that she was the rightful winner of the Olympia title of the previous year ( see en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Iris_Kyle) and to this day she still remains vocal about her differences with Lenda. Iris has made it clear that she does not have anything against Lenda and that her words were as a competitor who felt was not receiving her dues and that Lenda has been her idol since she started bodybuilding; however, Lenda has been very bitter by about losing the title to Iris and later women for Iris beating the record set by her, lee haney, and ronnie coleman. Lenda has expressed her disliking in magazine and radio interviews and in the following press conferences with under the table comments towards Iris throughout the years and Iris is aware of this (see www.rxmuscle.com/rx-girl-articles/female-bodybuilding/4986-an-exclusive-interview-with-the-ms-olympia-champion-iris-kyle.html), but recently Lenda has been more politically correct about her disliking of Iris and shifts her previous towards saying that she and Iris are just different types of people (I presume someone from the IFBB approached her and said "you need to stop because you are looking and sounding like a sore loser and it is going to tarnish you legacy," comment). I think lenda was a great bodybuilder, but I also think that Iris was just better and should have rightfully won since she had the most complete physique. Personally, I think that in women's bodybuilding everything went the wrong way when Cory Everson retired. How can we bring Women's bodybuilding back?....We need to put Elena Shpoturn as the next Ms. O and take from there.
Iris Kyle isn’t Lenda’s target but Future 4X Ms.O Kim Chizevsky has acknowledged in a Flex magazine article that Lenda dissed her. As of after Kim dethroned Lenda. Lenda decided to make a comeback and asked Kim’s Husband to train her for two more wins!!! Now, Iris Kyle. She worked very hard and has a goddess body that I would worship and make love to but the truth is Iris’ face isn’t what it looked like. When Iris pointed Lenda’s weakness(quads) that was the start but when she dissed Lenda in a 2004 Ms.O interview. That was the beginning of the end of respect. And after 10 Olympia Victories and Milking all the Ms. Internationals until the two contest ended. Lenda eventually destroyed Iris verbally and it was very brutal. The truth and insult for Lenda was Iris broked Lenda’s record as the most Ms.O wins. She wasn’t the only one upset and disappointed but I was too. There where times I thought Lenda should have been dethroned due to her physique being weak(1994). But that is the situation that gave Lenda her Legacy. On top of that, Lenda is and my first intimate crush when I was young seeing her for the first time in her very first and early Ms. Olympia in 1990 is breathtaking and especially when she posed nude 😯. Basically I am and alway be a Lenda Fan Boy! Between the Two Olympian Black Queens. Lenda Murray is my majesty!!!
@@digipeeper I agree with you. I have followed the Lenda story for years and I even read it the articles regarding the beef between her and Kim. I think it was all had to do with her personal insecurities. I wish that Lenda would remain a respectful individual and keep her head held up high in order to protect her Legacy. Because I know that she put up with a lot during her reign as Ms. Olympia and and she accomplished a lot.
@@angelisaaccastillo here is a ironic part in her success and legacy. She HATED the Way She LOOKED(muscularity) and she broke down and cried?!?! Lenda is very warm to her fans and people around and she is very professional but she can be insidious it seems. I cannot say the same for Laura Creavalle as she was a Ice Queen and requested money for a autograph or picture take and it wasn’t even in a convention?!!!
She is exactly right about what happened. The steroids took over and destroyed the sport. Lenda actually looked feminine and aesthetic, she just had great genetics. Kyle and Chivesky took the drugs into outer space. I know this for a fact since by sister was a female bodybuilder. She took the roids in pill form. But that was it. She understood that to advance further she had to take injected drugs. She did not want to do that.
Some years ago, Pumping Iron II the Women was released, and the very subject of overly muscular women was the elephant in the , due largely because of Bev Francis. I remember one scene where of the judges for the Caesar's World Cup were being briefed about how to judge the female competitors. The late Ben Weider pointed out how they had to protect the sport. He stated that 'we want to turn people on, not turn them off' when it came down to women and muscular development. He stated that the majority of people did not want to see women with big, grotesque muscles. Apparently he was correct. Female bodybuilding may be gone competition wise, but even the so-called fitness and bikini competitors look as if they're using PEDs. The sport has instead become a freak show. The squared jawlines, deep voices and pronounced foreheads are horrible, and that's for both men and women. And let's not get into the deaths of various bodybuilders from organ and heart failure, heart attacks, stroke, etc. As far as Lenda degrading Iris Kyle, she wasn't personally attacking her. She was stating an honest opinion, which had nothing to do with her race at all. If we truly want to 'stick together,' then 'we' should call out the sisters for using male hormones, which ruins their natural beauty. As Lenda said, if people are saying something negative about female bodybuilding, they're saying something negative about Iris Kyle, or whoever is holding the title.
I completly understand and agree with Linda which is why she will always be the #1 best women's pro bodybuilder over iris....iris took the sport too far which is why i believe the category was eliminated from the Olympia & Arnold. Linda had and still has the best body in the industry.
That is your opinion, but it shows you have no real understanding of the history of the sport.....blaming Iris Kyle is totally inaccurate and ridiculous.....Iris basically has the same type of physique that Kim Chizvesky had when she competed and nobody said she took the sport too far when she was winning or when she lost to Lenda (which you spelled wrong) during times that she should have won......Kim was just as muscular in both development and definition......so its absolutely stupid to blame Iris for anything......bottom line is Lenda is bitter someone with a more evolved body broke her record of Olympia victories.....when in honesty Lenda should have won only 3 at best, 1992, 93, and 2002.
Vindicator73 agreed all those chiseled-faced women took it too far. lenda is the only 1 who kept it feminine to where men would even want to continue to see female bodybuilders onstage. with that said i hope your ripped-face square-jawed woman dominates you in the bedroom that is if you have 1
ashmaq49 No I don't have one or want one you dumbass. But most people do not consider Lenda Murray "feminine" looking by general society standards. And competitive FBB went on for 12 years after she retired, so it had nothing to do with her or any competitor from 1990's. If you are obsessed with her then fine, but don't make idiotic generalization statements claiming she is or was the lone driving force behind FBB. -_-
Vindicator73 she was and still is the best just like Ronnie is...1 more thing since I'm such an idiot, please educate me on the exact reason fbb was pulled from the Arnold & Olympia I'm still clueless I thought it was because fbb intimidates men so now they no longer have the audience.
Classic jealousy. True athletes have good sportsmanship and this ain't it. Iris simply beat her and instead of taking the negative energy she spewing into that microphone and putting it in the gym so she could come back and beat Iris, just shows that she has more than he4 body to work on. Iris has great sportsmanship, genetics, and athleticism. Bodybuilding is more than body, it also is about your mind and Lenda simply needs to shut her mouth instead of participating in drama against another black woman. When are we gonna learn?
She beat Iris twice; Iris only beat her once. When has Iris EVER made the cover of a magazine (back in the 90s and early 2000s when magazine covers mattered)? I had plenty of swimsuit layout from Flex, M&F, Ironman, and other magazines, featuring the best female bodybuilders and fitness starts of the day. For some STRANGE REASON, Iris Kyle never made an appearance in any of them (neither did Kim Chivesky, for that matter).
First and foremost, I want to pay my respect/honor to Lenda Murray for all of her accomplishments and opening the door for women of color in professional bodybuilding but I must express that as a woman of color I am very disappointed on your degrading comments of Iris Kyle. I learned if you do not have something good to say about a person then don't say anything at all. And to add insult to injury, to have a conversation against another sister with that white guy made me sick. We must stick together.....Peace
Lenda wasn't necessarily speaking as a woman of color but as a woman body builder in this sport. She gave her opinion and we all have that right. I'm Not sure why women of color like yourself must interpret this as Lenda giving shade towards Iris Kyle. It was nothing of the sort.
IT'S NOT IRIS KYLE'S FAULT THE MS OLYMPIA WAS ELIMINATED, YOU ALL SHOULD BE BLAMING THE JUDGES, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KEPT ON GIVING HER THE FIRST PLACE PRIZE. IF THEY HADN'T BEEN AND INSTEAD GIVEN THE FIRST PLACE PRIZE TO WOMEN WITH BODIES LIKE LENDA, I BET THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY NEED TO ADD BULLSHIT BIKINI AND FIGURE. I AGREE WITH YOU IRIS IS WAY TOO MASCULINE LOOKING, BUT THE JUDGES KEPT GIVING HER THE NOD
She come off as a hater..every interview she’s talking negatively about Iris
Iris killed female bodybuilding
Iris looks like a drag queen. Looks horrible!
Lenda is only diminishing her legacy with interviews like this one. The thinly veiled insults don't paint her in a good night. At the end of the day Iris Kyle was the superior bodybuilder...more genetically gifted in a variety of ways. Lenda is a legendary champion in her own right, and one of the most impressive female specimens you'll ever see. She had the looks and the body. Surely she can begrudge Iris her lone advantage over her.
She has achieved alot. I think she stands for feminine aesthetics as a bodybuilder. Iris kyle has 9 Os but takes a whole different angle of it.
It is actually cool to hear her share her opinions as she is a rep of the sport. Iris, also has her stance and a strong one. But the legacy is forever with Corey Everson and Rachel Mclish.
She's in her 50s!! Wow.
Lends & Iris.. I would have Loved 2 See/ Hear Them Together as Friends❤️
Iris wanted 2 blurr the line or double standard of steroid abuse between men and women, Iris had better genetics and maybe less charisma & professionalism than some others.
Iris Kyle would have gone on and won many more. I think Lenda is full of envy
She is
Iris is a man
She is just beautiful
I love Lenda, but I think she is just angry that Iris beat her in competition and beat her record. Lenda has been very vocal in previous radio conversations going back to 2004 about her disliking of Iris and the issue between them go back to the press conference in the 2004 Ms. Olympia where Iris verbally attacked Lenda's lack of leg and calf development (see www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-111506207.html) in order to get her point across that she was the rightful winner of the Olympia title of the previous year ( see en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Iris_Kyle) and to this day she still remains vocal about her differences with Lenda. Iris has made it clear that she does not have anything against Lenda and that her words were as a competitor who felt was not receiving her dues and that Lenda has been her idol since she started bodybuilding; however, Lenda has been very bitter by about losing the title to Iris and later women for Iris beating the record set by her, lee haney, and ronnie coleman. Lenda has expressed her disliking in magazine and radio interviews and in the following press conferences with under the table comments towards Iris throughout the years and Iris is aware of this (see www.rxmuscle.com/rx-girl-articles/female-bodybuilding/4986-an-exclusive-interview-with-the-ms-olympia-champion-iris-kyle.html), but recently Lenda has been more politically correct about her disliking of Iris and shifts her previous towards saying that she and Iris are just different types of people (I presume someone from the IFBB approached her and said "you need to stop because you are looking and sounding like a sore loser and it is going to tarnish you legacy," comment). I think lenda was a great bodybuilder, but I also think that Iris was just better and should have rightfully won since she had the most complete physique. Personally, I think that in women's bodybuilding everything went the wrong way when Cory Everson retired. How can we bring Women's bodybuilding back?....We need to put Elena Shpoturn as the next Ms. O and take from there.
Iris Kyle isn’t Lenda’s target but Future 4X Ms.O Kim Chizevsky has acknowledged in a Flex magazine article that Lenda dissed her. As of after Kim dethroned Lenda. Lenda decided to make a comeback and asked Kim’s Husband to train her for two more wins!!!
Now, Iris Kyle. She worked very hard and has a goddess body that I would worship and make love to but the truth is Iris’ face isn’t what it looked like.
When Iris pointed Lenda’s weakness(quads) that was the start but when she dissed Lenda in a 2004 Ms.O interview. That was the beginning of the end of respect.
And after 10 Olympia Victories and Milking all the Ms. Internationals until the two contest ended. Lenda eventually destroyed Iris verbally and it was very brutal.
The truth and insult for Lenda was Iris broked Lenda’s record as the most Ms.O wins. She wasn’t the only one upset and disappointed but I was too.
There where times I thought Lenda should have been dethroned due to her physique being weak(1994). But that is the situation that gave Lenda her Legacy. On top of that, Lenda is and my first intimate crush when I was young seeing her for the first time in her very first and early Ms. Olympia in 1990 is breathtaking and especially when she posed nude 😯.
Basically I am and alway be a Lenda Fan Boy!
Between the Two Olympian Black Queens. Lenda Murray is my majesty!!!
@@digipeeper I agree with you. I have followed the Lenda story for years and I even read it the articles regarding the beef between her and Kim. I think it was all had to do with her personal insecurities. I wish that Lenda would remain a respectful individual and keep her head held up high in order to protect her Legacy. Because I know that she put up with a lot during her reign as Ms. Olympia and and she accomplished a lot.
@@angelisaaccastillo here is a ironic part in her success and legacy. She HATED the Way She LOOKED(muscularity) and she broke down and cried?!?!
Lenda is very warm to her fans and people around and she is very professional but she can be insidious it seems. I cannot say the same for Laura Creavalle as she was a
Ice Queen and requested money for a autograph or picture take and it wasn’t even in a convention?!!!
She is exactly right about what happened. The steroids took over and destroyed the sport. Lenda actually looked feminine and aesthetic, she just had great genetics. Kyle and Chivesky took the drugs into outer space. I know this for a fact since by sister was a female bodybuilder. She took the roids in pill form. But that was it. She understood that to advance further she had to take injected drugs. She did not want to do that.
Kim Chizevsky still maintained her femininity though. But I agree about Iris Kyle.
Some years ago, Pumping Iron II the Women was released, and the very subject of overly muscular women was the elephant in the , due largely because of Bev Francis. I remember one scene where of the judges for the Caesar's World Cup were being briefed about how to judge the female competitors. The late Ben Weider pointed out how they had to protect the sport. He stated that 'we want to turn people on, not turn them off' when it came down to women and muscular development. He stated that the majority of people did not want to see women with big, grotesque muscles. Apparently he was correct. Female bodybuilding may be gone competition wise, but even the so-called fitness and bikini competitors look as if they're using PEDs. The sport has instead become a freak show. The squared jawlines, deep voices and pronounced foreheads are horrible, and that's for both men and women. And let's not get into the deaths of various bodybuilders from organ and heart failure, heart attacks, stroke, etc. As far as Lenda degrading Iris Kyle, she wasn't personally attacking her. She was stating an honest opinion, which had nothing to do with her race at all. If we truly want to 'stick together,' then 'we' should call out the sisters for using male hormones, which ruins their natural beauty. As Lenda said, if people are saying something negative about female bodybuilding, they're saying something negative about Iris Kyle, or whoever is holding the title.
She didn't say anything bad about iris so cut it out.
I completly understand and agree with Linda which is why she will always be the #1 best women's pro bodybuilder over iris....iris took the sport too far which is why i believe the category was eliminated from the Olympia & Arnold. Linda had and still has the best body in the industry.
That is your opinion, but it shows you have no real understanding of the history of the sport.....blaming Iris Kyle is totally inaccurate and ridiculous.....Iris basically has the same type of physique that Kim Chizvesky had when she competed and nobody said she took the sport too far when she was winning or when she lost to Lenda (which you spelled wrong) during times that she should have won......Kim was just as muscular in both development and definition......so its absolutely stupid to blame Iris for anything......bottom line is Lenda is bitter someone with a more evolved body broke her record of Olympia victories.....when in honesty Lenda should have won only 3 at best, 1992, 93, and 2002.
Diana Dennis should have won in 1990......Bev Francis should have beat Lenda in 1991, Laura Creavalle in 1994, Kim in 95, and Iris in 2003.
Vindicator73 agreed all those chiseled-faced women took it too far. lenda is the only 1 who kept it feminine to where men would even want to continue to see female bodybuilders onstage. with that said i hope your ripped-face square-jawed woman dominates you in the bedroom that is if you have 1
ashmaq49 No I don't have one or want one you dumbass.
But most people do not consider Lenda Murray "feminine" looking by general society standards.
And competitive FBB went on for 12 years after she retired, so it had nothing to do with her or any competitor from 1990's.
If you are obsessed with her then fine, but don't make idiotic generalization statements claiming she is or was the lone driving force behind FBB.
-_-
Vindicator73 she was and still is the best just like Ronnie is...1 more thing since I'm such an idiot, please educate me on the exact reason fbb was pulled from the Arnold & Olympia I'm still clueless I thought it was because fbb intimidates men so now they no longer have the audience.
Classic jealousy. True athletes have good sportsmanship and this ain't it. Iris simply beat her and instead of taking the negative energy she spewing into that microphone and putting it in the gym so she could come back and beat Iris, just shows that she has more than he4 body to work on. Iris has great sportsmanship, genetics, and athleticism. Bodybuilding is more than body, it also is about your mind and Lenda simply needs to shut her mouth instead of participating in drama against another black woman. When are we gonna learn?
She beat Iris twice; Iris only beat her once. When has Iris EVER made the cover of a magazine (back in the 90s and early 2000s when magazine covers mattered)? I had plenty of swimsuit layout from Flex, M&F, Ironman, and other magazines, featuring the best female bodybuilders and fitness starts of the day.
For some STRANGE REASON, Iris Kyle never made an appearance in any of them (neither did Kim Chivesky, for that matter).
She's awesome. Amazing that Lenda can keep her size eating only 1200-1500 calories a day.
Leslie Nielsen is alive!
Mr. McGough does favor him somewhat.
lenda never had legs and back like irys
cause iris is a man lol
Iris never had a face like Lynda's.
Exactly!! Lenda is sooo beautiful compare to Iris!!. Iris's face looks just like a man!! Yuck!!!!!
First and foremost, I want to pay my respect/honor to Lenda Murray for all of her accomplishments and opening the door for women of color in professional bodybuilding but I must express that as a woman of color I am very disappointed on your degrading comments of Iris Kyle. I learned if you do not have something good to say about a person then don't say anything at all. And to add insult to injury, to have a conversation against another sister with that white guy made me sick. We must stick together.....Peace
+chauncey phillips All I can say to your "1940's" comment is just Keep Living....
Lenda wasn't necessarily speaking as a woman of color but as a woman body builder in this sport. She gave her opinion and we all have that right. I'm Not sure why women of color like yourself must interpret this as Lenda giving shade towards Iris Kyle. It was nothing of the sort.
Facts
Stop playing the color card. Wrong is wrong and right is right. I believe that comment came from Iris Kyle herself. Incognito.
Everything got to be about color . How bout it’s just the greatest women’s bodybuilder of all time talking .
Class Act Lenda ! Too bad that the Creature who came after her totally destroyed the Ms Olympia. !
IT'S NOT IRIS KYLE'S FAULT THE MS OLYMPIA WAS ELIMINATED, YOU ALL SHOULD BE BLAMING THE JUDGES, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KEPT ON GIVING HER THE FIRST PLACE PRIZE. IF THEY HADN'T BEEN AND INSTEAD GIVEN THE FIRST PLACE PRIZE TO WOMEN WITH BODIES LIKE LENDA, I BET THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY NEED TO ADD BULLSHIT BIKINI AND FIGURE.
I AGREE WITH YOU IRIS IS WAY TOO MASCULINE LOOKING, BUT THE JUDGES KEPT GIVING HER THE NOD
+Daniel MMA GOD Cormier I Agree