Ido Portal Teaches Dr. Andrew Huberman the Fundamentals of Movement | Huberman Lab Clips
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- Ido Portal, the world’s foremost expert on human movement, teaches Dr. Andrew Huberman the fundamentals of movement.
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This clip is from the Huberman Lab episode "Ido Portal: The Science & Practice of Movement." The full episode can be found on UA-cam here: ua-cam.com/video/a9yFKPmPZ90/v-deo.html
I dont know him well so take this with a grain of salt, but I don't like the guy. His posts just scream, "I am trying to sound interesting" unnecessary words to describe deep sounding statements. The guy censors his comments, he removes all negative ones, every time someone asks a question about validity or doubts something, or wants to discuss something he said, he just censors and removes the comment and he also supposedly was going to fight mma, which also was some bullshit.
The way Dr H describes him, an N of 1, and ‘so skilled in his movement’ when sorry, but he’s shaking a hand and then does a jerk at the end there. That’s it. This guy is a charlatan with a good vocabulary and N aggressive enough nature that he tricks people into thinking his way is novel. If you go to his website, you will see the arrogance in full blast. Im a disabled retired ballet dancer so I was curious to learn more of his methods but it’s all intimidation tactics. Smoke and mirrors.
Nate Diaz comment to Conor McGregor about Ido Portal is still classic....
"You're playing touch butt with that dork in the park" 🤣😆😂😅
Show more clips of the actual session if you can please.
I second this!
Yes we need this.
Yes, we do.
They wont
I’d love to see the instructions on the motionless to moving stage of this. Looked interesting
this type of cult works by taking non athletes and introducing them to very very very simple athletic movements... then that person feels like they've been enlightened on how to move when in reality that shit was just a waist of time
Truth
Another martial arts snake oil charlatan.
Ah the great Ido "I don't train with vegans because they're so weak" Portal
I like Ido Portal's work and also Dr. Huberman's podcasts, but it is disappointing to see his science, evidence and facts based podcast make statements something like (around the 00:30 mark) "Ido and his colleagues have essentially combined all the forms of movement out there and have expanded upon them..." which is hyperbole that sounds like shameless promotion. Dr. Huberman, surely you are aware of research that shows the degree of freedoms in human movement to be near infinite. People with disabilities (especially from a young age), disciplines such as "internal" martial arts (some which Ido's body mechanics and exercises are completely inconsistent with, at a granular enough neuro-biomechanical level), certain spiritual and yogic practices etc., approach movement in ways that can't be learned in a day with nice shortcuts (as clever and impressive as they are) but require years of hard work (literally what the meaning of Gong Fu stands for). Looks like there is a fair bit of Dunning-Kruger effect happening here, which is disappointing. Maybe it would be more fitting for a scientist to maintain an open mind and research the neuro-biomechanics behind some of these more interesting, less conventional forms of movement as a follow up rather than to claim that Ido and his colleagues have distilled all modalities of movement and has expanded upon them. Disappointing that the Huberman Labs podcast might be succumbing to superficial sensationalism like many contemporary podcasts.
I was ready for that as soon as I saw the name Ido Portal
Spot on
so once again, 0 practical tips
Looking like two dudes playing touch butt in the park! Throwback comment from Nate Diatz. This is only fun of course! Love the podcast with Ido and thanks for sharing some of the practise you guys did!
Given the rest of the comments it seems I am quite alone in this, but I'll say it nonetheless. This is just too much woo woo for me. I totally don't understand what Ido is saying, or why it's revolutionary. I can see it being remarkable only if you spent your entire life behind a desk and didn't climb trees or play outside as a child.
He took part and tried out this method. He had real empirical results. Hard to argue with that.
@@szymonbaranowski8184 After watching a few more videos to try and find out why people are so interested in this guy, I think I kind of agree with the idea how exercising in more natural ways, more full range of motion, functional movements rather than highly specific/synthetic movements like a leg press. I very much agree with this idea, although I also don't think that's really all he has to say. I am still missing something.
And it's actually not hard to argue with what you mentioned. That's an n of 1, and there's a bunch of biases to account for. Convincing people that you're helping them is in some cases easier than helping them. However none of that suggests that what Ido portal is bringing to the table isn't useful, just that I personally haven't seen enough evidence yet. Quite possibly because I just found out about this tho.
Considering he charges thousands of dollars to get people to do this kind of stuff for a few hours is incredulous
It’s increasing sensory awareness
It’s about awakening your nervous system to ways of coordinating and accessing greater capacities for movement that have been effectively forgotten since adolescence.
He essentially is greasing the groove on all the different higher level as well as spinal motor pathways, kind of like a software update to the pre-existing hardware of the cables/nerves that were utilized more as a kiddo. Hope that is useful and not too reductive or redundant.
Theres nothing new under the sun, just new figureheads. I do find tabloidism dull. Speak to adults please if you want to be considered one. I am the first person incidentally in the history of the world to know all the things I know, that means that noone else knew anything I know untill I was born and then only then if I told them .......right ???????? ............no.
That honestly looks like dog training for humans. haha
Just saw some videos of Ido from some long time followers of his and gave me a different opinion on "his" movement culture and of himself. Just compiling concepts from various sports and martial arts etc, then rebranding them and covering them in pseudo scientific and poetic language and then charging thousands of dollars for access is not the way to go, especially if you advocate the opposite in your speeches.. Guru culture is not a good thing
That's exactly what this is, yes. Reminds me of DK Yoo in some aspects. Gather superficial knowledge from different sources, practice enough that you get good at it, and able to showcase a few tricks, rebrand, sell, enjoy. People are so far off their physical potential that even this superficial stuff is enough to get them to progress and believe.
You have a point here, but you’ve missed the central point.
Knowledge is accumulated over centuries to develop society and greater civilisation. He is expanding on many movement principles from many cultures and integrating these concepts into a more complete understanding of the human body and it’s processes.
We live, for the first time, in an age where we can access all of this information very seamlessly. Good on him for recognising that and doing something about that.
Wrong!
Can you boxe, jump, grapple, climb, skate, balance on a railway, crawl? Do you want to start liking your body for his capabilities and keep discovering every bit of range and variety it can potentially reach?
What kind of videos did you see? Are there testimonies of old students turning back on him? Just curious
Andrew Huberman, you are very front chain dominant as evidenced by your duck feet, and probably due to your sitting for long periods. You asked during your discussion with Ido Portal about whether nature had any bearing on human movement, well there is a movement practice based on just that copying nature as a guide specifically indigenous hunter gatherers still alive and matching that to other animals in an attempt to improve human gait and movment especially in light of fromt chain activities such as sitting etc. I know you will find this of interest please check out GOATA movement. They did a podcast with Mark Bell it is an excellent jumping off point.
Just wondering What’s the point in this ?
The problem with us grownups, is that we stop moving as the younger do, and also, stop sleeping like youngsters. Just, keep moving like if you where young, same free movement and with lots of energy. That's it!
This is half snake oil.
Made me think of Bruce Lee :)
Dafaq, das sum weird shiz. Dude is so weird.. reminds me of fake martial art instructors.
Ido mentioned the influence of Moshe Feldenkrais and some of your experience with ido is a reflection of MF teachings - exploring movement without pain but challenge to access forgotten possibilities
You should have a conversation with a very experienced Feldy practitioner
And in retrospect, you'll see he was just saying "Go Fetch!" Then you say "oh ya,Im Just a dog"
A skater will always wear skate shoes! Once a skater always a skater.
This is a joke and so is Ido Portal.
Fools day?
Other channels teach people about movement and aren't as....obsessed with monetizing content as Ido Portal is. Ido is JUST out of $$$$ actually helping people is an afterthought.
Sadly true, learned this years ago when researching his work
> countless people complaining about his focus in extracting AS mich money as possible out of students. Still his concepts and methods are great
Bs
Possibly 😕
Which part?
And people pay for this bs training? Real athletes move better and have better proprioception than this guy ever would.
So much of what he said in the podcast reminded me of Kundalini yoga teachings I received during teacher training years ago. Found it so affirming.
It's nice to see Steven Seagal's teachings be passed down for future generations.
Genuinely, can someone explain what Ido's main thesis? I am genuinely confused why so many people, especially someone who is otherwise so science focused as Andrdew Huberman, finds his idea of substance. I just hear vague ideas that are very inconcrete.
Ido Portal attempts to develop his movement capabilities in as wide a domain as is possible. This involves developing all the core physical attributes (strength, speed, power, coordination e.t.c) and afterwords more subtle ones such as softness, timing e.t.c In order to do this, he always looks for his weakest area and deliberately devises tasks/challenges/practices to develop here.
The reason why he can seem to sound vague is that he is much further along the path than most so that it is difficult to relate. Like a child that has never heard of math being thrown into calculus class. I would advise reading all his posts online, beginning from the oldest posts where he talks of more basic topics such as getting stronger and advancing to more complex topics from there.
Hope this helps.
@@bobbobson4030 thank you. I'm afraid it didn't really. Why can it not be summed up succinctly in the same length of an abstract say. What you have said so far doesn't really seem that novel nor concrete, to be honest.
@@ek14tube What specifically about my explanation do you not understand?
@@bobbobson4030 there wasn't really a specific thing actually, and that itself was the cause of the not understanding. I don't understand what specific thing he teaches other than just saying some vague things about movement and that overly general so to be lacking utility and originality
You saw what he did at the end with his arms. That's the gist of it. You should know that he was Conor McGregor's "movement" coach, so you can understand how that may have helped his prominence.
looks like a game of follow the leader or a way to create followers of a cult. i could never be such a subservient follower of anyone. that said i do like the actual movement exercises.
This sounds like yoga for Joe Rogan fans
He just made you play fetch. Power move
Another great, eye-opening discussion. Thank you for sharing a little of the behind-the-scenes of your actual movement one-on-one session. Such an awesome perspective from one of the great practitioners and teachers. Thanks as always Dr. Andrew
Portal has done lots for the movement community, BUT like cutting a diamond there gets a point where it becomes overworked, and I think Ido is getting close to that point in his practice.
How can you tell that he has overworked his practice, and what would you do in his place?
I love Ido's stuff from years ago but I find the more recent stuff simply too esoteric. Maybe it's my fault and he's just a puzzle I don't understand any more.
@@bobm2368 no you're right. He's gone off the edge.
@@bobm2368 How much of his previous work have you actually actualized? I.e. Have you developed handstand push-ups, one arm chinups and locomotion? Not that these are easy tasks, but if you don't actually master basic arithmetic how could a more "esoteric" topic like calculus even begin to make sense?
@@bobbobson4030 well said .
I trust this podcast so I'm sure there is something important going on here .
I was unable to see anything I could appy to my life or recommend to anyone.
I see in the comments that many people feel the same way.
the first instructions at 1:00 appear to be the feldenkrais method as its presented in an awareness through movement class
zhan zhuang, or 'post standing' is a broadly respected practice in internal martial arts. Some of this clip seems to hint at why that might be. Would be curious to get a neuroscientist take on if it really works and, if so, why.
I remember doing many of these tasks while learning Shotokan Karate. For many years we would spend the majority of the classes playing small games which resemble these movement activities. Good stuff.
I think movement practice, like the ones demonstrated here, should be compulsory in all schools from as early an age as possible.
fastest way to make people hate something is make it compulsory
@@DevinDTV i disagree. There are plenty of school subjects that are compulsory and not everyone hates them. Besides, it's good for them whether they like it or not
In my school I was thought to play hurling from 5 years old. Excellent hand eye condition. I'm sure ido would enjoy the game. Great name by the way.
@@karlbyrne6021 I've heard he prides himself on being close minded
dear god no.
I paused the video at 1:37 because I'm laughing! It's just like the positions the techs contort you into for a mammogram. Good times! PS. YAY another Huberman channel! 😊
Oh god yes! I needed to get a mammogram during a Covid surge and I was trying to explain to my husband how getting one was not a passive thing...that the tech literally pushes you into the most unnatural positions so that you embrace a massive piece of machinery all the while having your breasts flattened like a pancake. Good times, indeed.
@@lanehartwell hahaha YES!!!! People who haven't had one think the breast smashing is the worst part. For me that's not a big deal although the tech always drags half my armpit in that monster too. Lord knows there's enough of me there already, but no...they want MORE. Uh!!!!!! The bad part for me is lower back pain which happens while you're bent halfway and sideways to the floor....hanging on with a mighty grip. Why. Just why! Your comment had me laughing! Good times, sister. Good times! ❤️
😂 thats freaking hilarious
@@NobleCaveman 😂
Yaaay! Whilst watching the interview, I kept asking, "Well, what movements did you do with Ido?"...
Meh. Just put on some loud Florence + The Machine and jump around the living room. 😎
BS.
Check out Jozef Frucek and Fighting Monkey Practice. I’m sure you’ll find that very intriguing too. They have some solid movement exploration experience and dance/sports/gymnastics/martial arts background
I love this! Such out of the box practices, I can really see how this forces the brain and body to be simultaneously challenged and pushed to become synchronized. This is a fantastic clip, I want to utilize some of these! Thank you for the share, this is the highest caliber content, as is all your work Andrew. Just subscribed here, as I am already subscribed to your main channel, and am stoked to have yet another Huberman channel!
Gracias querido Dr Andrew ,Ido..me inspiran y emocionan con sus prácticas!🥰
Presence in the body is one of the greatest feelings in being alive. This looks to lead away from unconscious activity and bring vitality and intentional awareness to a creative sense of balance and spontaneous responsiveness. Beautiful!💐
Lol... and the point of these silly movements are what exactly? To get in contact with your nervous system?? :))
Of course Ido has expanded on these useless moves. Its his business. He needs to make money from this.
Lol... tell me that you sit all day without telling me directly.
More please... This reminds me of Bal-A-Vis-X and how we can let ours eyes, hands, and brains help map and improve our neurocircuitry with people who have suffered some type of brain insult. Fascinating technique... This is powerful
bal-a-vis-x? isn't the the name of elon musk's kid?
The Emperor's New Clothes
Thank you for sharing that 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Looks like a lot of these movements would allow someone to become a little more ambidextrous, among other benefits.
I don’t see anything novel here. The ‘such skillful movement’ Ido performs at the end, shaking and spamming, has long been part of many movement practices from how animals naturally purge trauma after a predatory experience to even being overused in current contemporary ballet. I don’t see any movement containers or content as he explain them, that is at all an N of 1. You can find that same movement pattern with any physical or occupational therapist and any class at Broadway Dance Center in New York. Some people are just so new to non-codified athletics that anything else seems revolutionary.
Yep. Let’s see Ido follow some Butoh performers.
There is nothing new under the sun...but show me somebody that has the breadth of movement capability that Ido has and I think you'll have your answer
@@bobbobson4030 - almost any modern dancer can do anything that Ido can do but probably better, and likely all kinds of things he can't. I once saw Jose Bustamante leap almost 4 feet in the air and 8 feet across like Michael Jordan, but he let his whole body go 100% limp while flying through the air so that he straightened completely out without any tension. Ido could only dream of accomplishing that. Just because he has the most breadth of movement of anyone YOU know doesn't mean he has more breadth than everyone out there.
@@hostnik777 Go on. Post a link.
@@bobbobson4030 - I'm not getting paid to school you
Looks like nonsense
Maybe I skipped over the point. But this is doing what exactly? Therapy? Rehabilitation?
I would most definitely not consider Ido the foremost expert on movement at all.
If you genuinely want to educate yourself on a methodology that respects Human Movement or what the body have evolved to do as a priority, you need to look into Functional Patterns.
Spent hours with Portal shooting this and you put out a 5 minute silent clip? The interview was impenetrable phsychobabble, why not show the full video?
What are the benefits to doing these exercises though? Better hand eye coordination or what?
I adore Andrew Huberman. And I do movement. But this is the only episode of all of his podcasts I didn’t finish. It was boring. Ido talks a lot without saying anything. He is great at what he does but his personality and communication skills don’t match.
Thank you,very grateful to show us movements whic h is for me better than listen ing two hours about movements analysis and his thoughts .
AH, love these clips! I wish they were subtitled into Japanese so I can share them with my family and friends. As we are similar age, it would awesome could if you could a love letter to skateboarding episode.
Neat video! He had a sweet smile at the end. 😊
Wonderful segment. Is there any possible way you can have on A future podcast the author Jonah LEHRER to discuss his book title
Proust was a Neuroscientist. Connecting juxtaposition or not with the information from your podcast or just modern day knowledge of the circuitry Chemical make up of the brain relating today's progress progression in his book.
It’s called dancing. Nothing new.
It's a more mindful, more thought of form of dancing that focuses on the overall movement of the body
Ido!!! Is the man!! He open my eyes with his philosophy the better the supportive gear works the less you do the better the shoes work the less you do the better than machine works the less your body does.”
I like the training.
i just don't like that people seems like worshipping him 😂
this guy is not the nicest. The movement culture has a ton of toxicity in it lol. Can’t exile someone from movement…
One of the most intriguing podcasts (and videos!) ever. THANK you for sharing both of your gifts @Andrew Huberman & @Ido Portal. Keep making a difference!
So next time you're flipping the burger in Mcdonalds you can do these great Ido moves and feel better about your life :D
You mean in McGregor...This guy is a true Quack who knew when to capitalise on his friendship with the comedian who beat some finished almost retired fighters and some young guys
Man I feel this, when I'm done my Muay Thai classes, I feel so on the ball, practicing motions as well as the mind listening to combos being called and translating it to punches and kicks
Finally audience got to watch Andrew Huberman in 'full' - so far it was always 'half' sitting in front of microphone!
even for the Lex Fridman choke?
(DEEP SIGH) 🤨
Nice! Touch butt is made to be played in the park!
Trying my hardest to not post the Nate Diaz comment 🌚
I did twice and the comment gets removed LMAO
Loved it thank you
Balancing is one of the best whole CNS activations one can do, and is important as one ages.
Try putting on a pair of pants, while standing on one leg, then the other, or drying your foot, after a shower, while standing on one foot. Not easy, is it, but then balancing is a perishable skill, which becomes evident when one ages.
Movement and balance, simultaneously, key to preventing falls as one ages.
Happy landings!
This perspective/approach to being a human animal in movement feels like the roots of rewiring and reviving our sense of Belonging, beginning with ourselves. Deep appreciation to you, Andrew, for being the undying Curiosity that connects us with wild wisdom like Ido. About to listen to the full podcast for the third time, and this clip was the perfect glue. Hungry for more.
Because rolling around on the god damned floor did Conner a lot of good.
He won when they worked together and lost when he stopped. But he’s a canoe so who cares anyway.
I wonder what he's changed about his practice. His physique has changed quite a bit over the years. He was also strong as hell with the rings, and quite flexible too... wonder if he still is.
Full time grifting takes up a lot of time
@@iridium1911 I get this vibe too
@@iridium1911 someones upset
Ido mentioned that muscle mass was slowing him down so it had to go. It was blocking him from being a better mover
What a beautiful, artistic conversation. Thank you Dr. Huberman, you managed it SO well . How about a podcast about “ barefoot shoes yes or no ,for everybody or not “ ?
No
Nah. Just find a flat shoe with a proper toe box
@@urgamecshk thank you . Not so easy to find though. Can’t buy anything online coz I live in South Africa and the corrupt government and all its cronies ( employees) steal everything that moves . And yes I hope they read this !!! TMI , but thank you, I do appreciate you trying to help.
This type of training appears to be able to help in fighting, such as Jui Jitsu, Wing Chun, etc.
None of us really know what is happening but we like it.
Ido portal🙏. Big fan of yours from India , big respect . Hope to be in your presence one day . Till then adios . It's a good day .🙏
What is the difference between this, and say, martial arts (any form but probably specifically aikido), and dance practice like Kathak. Both are ancient movement artforms that are actually far more sophisticated and effective than this.
So grateful for Dr Huberman educating us masses ( my free pass for life)... But this to me seems like a dumbed down, less effective version of Asian artforms, which have evolved over thousands of years. 🤷🏾♀️
I found your interview with Ido very profound and fascinating. I had previously read materials on martial arts by many so-called masters, including Bruce Lee and encountered mental blocks when trying to fully comprehend their lessons. That was until today when I listened to your interview with Ido. The saying "When the student is ready, the Master will appear". Well, Ido appeared for me and I have to thank you, Dr. Andrew Huberman, for making it possible. Thank you Dr. Andrew Huberman.
I like this format. Very cool.
Gracias por la traducción al español. Me gustaría saber si hay algún video que se refiera a la respiración para controlar el estrés, con traducción al español también. Me encantó la entrevista realizada por Lewis Howes en la cual hace mención a este tema con un abordaje completamente coherente y asertivo.
Awesome!!!
Great to see Ido coming back to UA-cam
Just looks like Andrew is learning playing ball w his father
I read brain make millions of new connections per second during somatic work, so I don’t know if Andrew is right when saying it’s too slow to have happened as he was doing the actions.
Anyone know what shoes Ido is wearing?
Please share your thoughts on "Whole brain power" exercices. It has many ineresting combinations of movements, and I wonder what effect it has on your brain and body.
I'd say PRETTY much, entire US Military and CIA and Democrat Party engages in these TRAININ protocols BUT IT DOES N"T mean sheet for their EXISTENCE and window (event horizons.) Meaning they had a chance around a Troll.
Nate Diaz says hi!
Does Ido plays drums 🥁 or percussion 🪘 or Music 🎶 Chess Andrew?
Mr Hubberman, Lots of people understand something at least about clearing the mind. Please refer to 5000 years of mediation and related disciplines....which so many current scientists appear to disregard and fail to acknowledge. Love both your work too, thank you. 😇
Conor Mcgregor : I train with the best
Nate Diaz : playing touch butt with the ponytail guy ( Ido Portal) in the park? I don’t think so
Scrolled down the comment section to see if there is any MMA or Conor Mcgregor reference. None!
Ido Portal certainly did NOT invent or even expand on any movement material that the dancers at the erstwhile Ballet Frankfurt didn't use in their creative processes. This kind of movement-connectivity and the application of different movement training to movement awareness, ( Including neuro-science research as well as Yogic principles and Gymnastic training etc) has already been well used in the mid 80's. Ido Portal seems to have jumped on the wagon that us the dancers of William Forsythe and the Ballet Frankfurt invented and pioneered. Clearly he's made a good marketing strike with it, but the actual invention and also deep research has been done well before him. We have created a system of dancer training called the Forsythe Improvisational Methodologies that was mainly taught to new dancers. Clearly the influence of this and the available info has filtered down to Ido Portal, who seems to claim that he's brought these diverse methods together. This is certainly not the case.. although he might have made his version of some kind of training, I'd love to see credit given where credit is due... not to dismiss Ido Portal knowledge, but ALL of the above material had been well researched and used right before Ido Portal appeared on the scene. On another note.. watching his videos... I'm pretty sure I can teach a thing or two to Ido Portal , however self assured that may sound here. Marketing genius he is .. but for genuine and authentic movement training I can do better. Calling him the Worlds foremost expert on human movement... is a bit of a stretch, I'd say. There are plenty of us that can match his knowledge and possibly exceed it...If you don't believe me... just meet a few well trained dancers... and you'll see.
European arrogance right here