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Is This The Greatest Sub Woofer Of All Time?
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- How do we measure greatness? The Cerwin Vega Stroker has always been my dream sub woofer. I've been wanting some since the mid 90s and now I have some of my own and get to build them myself.
Let's take a look at the history of the Stroker and what makes it so special.
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Maaann the beginning when he said that he had subwoofer before he can drive. Man that brought back memories. Great video 👌
Me & my brother saved up & put subs, mids & tweets in our mom's Mercury Topaz back in the day
I worked all summer with my dad at his shop so I could buy two JL W1's and. Linear Power Lp200. I had the system before I had my drivers license.
Man your high school note books look a hell of a lot like mine. The Stroker is THE holy grail subwoofer for those of us that were in car audio in the 90’s.
Still ain't anything better by my own ear. ALL dependent on Its choice enclosure and music that goes thru it. .and lastly where is its home..
I was introduced to these during the 90's as well. My uncle had 2 of these in an ASTRO van. You could hear him 2 miles away!
Is this how the budget bass head was born?
I don't know how I missed this video. Superb work my friend!!
I second that! I feel like a big dummy 🤪
My first experience was when I was a young adult in the 90s at a pawn shop an saw a guy go crazy in a subtle way when he saw a Stroker 12" and a Xtant amp that was priced crazy low. Needless to say he bought both of them. He told me they don't know what they have. Now this was back before internet verification.
holy watts man, i'm actually living your childhood right now, I'm 15 and worked for and installed my dream stereo set into my sister's car, I'm always researching things in the back of my freshman classes.
Awesome video! In 1997 I had 2 Cerwin Vega Stroker 18s on two Precision Power Power class pc2350s on 3 Optima Yellow tops one under the hood 2 in the back.pc4100 on my OZ audio mids and highs! Good times
Justin McGinley same here in 96 had 2 18" strokers in a suburban. box had 4 6inch ports. Ran subs with a Lanzar 1000 amp on each. 2 dcell batteries and 2 ppi amps for mids and highs which were all Polk audio. At the time it was called dual post alternator which held 2 Marine dcell batteries and 4 capacitors. The Lanzar amps use to get sooo fucking hot but would never cut off. Them amps were fucking gladiators 1000watts of pure power. Then I learned about the 1400 watt ppi's that would run all day without getting warm and switched out Lanzars for those..... All in all GREATEST SPEAKERS EVER LIVED. I used to have my windows up and ppl would be holding their ears in other cars while their windows were up. My head unit was Alpine cva1000 first flip out monitor with the Alpine gra320 detachable face eq
still have my two 15 "and my amplifier (phoenix gold ms 2125) that I had in my car 1999
What an awesome set up! 15" Stroker' s with Phoenix Gold MS series power? Who wouldn't love that? I would love to hear that. Awesome gear pairing. You sir know what your doing.
sound crazy if yer 20 i guess,,,, but if yer 45.....
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I had 2 12" earthquakes with the drones and 1500 earthquake amb.. always dreamed of strokers though
I was born in '77 and we have similar mindsets but I had a pair of Kicker L7 '15's with 1137 continuous watts of Kicker power (Stillwater Designs) and I broke windows & cracked my windshield!!!
Old-school term. #keepbumpin'
I was like you, started at age 12. I started out with the Stealth series, then the Vega series. I cut grass for 2 summers to afford bd1000.1 amp with 2 stroker 15s. To this day my favorite subs.
In 1995 or 1996, I had tried a Stroker 12 at the car audio store and loved it, so I bought a Stroker 15 and in my 1989 Grand Prix, I managed to hit a 143.3dB. A couple of years later, I bought a Stroker 18D4. I had this one Stroker 18D4 in my Grand Prix for a year or so, then in a 1989 Honda CRX and powered it with an Earthquake 200DHC (2000wrms). That speaker could handle it all day long. My best score was 148.3dB. I got first for Amateur 1-2subs class (I even beat cars with 3 and 4 subs). When I turned the bass down, it also sounded really good, and I got first for Amateur sound quality. For an 18" speaker, it could be powerful, and in the right box, it can still be very tight for punchy bass.
I still have the sub but use it as my home theater sub. It sounds amazing. This setup looks really good!
Nice history on the Stroker subs!
If u were a teenager in the 90s chances are this was your dream sub. Glad to see u can live out our dream for us my friend!
I was a teenager in the 90's and a young/broke car audio enthusiast. All I could do was read about those badass sub's in Autosound and Security. I always wanted some Strokers. I will be watching your future videos cause I have the same dream to buy old Strokers and refurb them. Show these youngnes nowadays what quality American made badass was all about. If you can ever get your hands on a Phoenix Gold Cyclone I think that would be an interesting video as well.
Amazingly done with just the right amount of NEEDED information + History! Thank you, and I must say how similar my brain, life's interests, and teenage time spent drawing up all kinds of dream systems ALMOST DAILY AT LEAST ONCE EVERYDAY!!! GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER AND I AM PURCHASING A STROKER EITHER 12 OR 15, LATER TODAY, AS BOTH ARE BRAND NEW AMAZINGLY!
I had a 12" cerwin vega stroker and thought it was loud until i heard a ddaudio 9500. I love it's unique look but modern subs outperform them with ease.
In some ways yes but in the early days of car audio, those drivers could be taken out of your car and used as home subs because they had a low fs. Most drivers today have a highish fs and designed strictly for loudness at 40Hz and above. I understand about cabin gain, but I find most modern subs amusical. I prefer old school paper subs with a low fs and tuned low as well.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt I am actually currently using my dd9515 in my home. It took a little bit of work to give in the power it can handle but i think it sounds decent. I built the enclosure exactly to spec as shown on ddaudio's site for 32hz.
@@craigreustle2192 Today alot of movies have response to 20Hz and below. I'm using a couple of 24" subs in my main system and a 21" in a secondary system.
I think you may enjoy a good sub that does below 20Hz well. The 9500 has an fs of 37Hz so it may crack plaster at 40Hz but it probably puts out nothing below 30Hz.
The subs I use are also very efficient so the power needs are reasonable.
Cheers!
I love these videos and i'm glad your making them again! If it wasn't for you i wouldn't be the sub builder I am today! Cant wait to see these strokers installed.
I appreciate it man. Trying to stay motivated to make more vids. The love helps so thank you
@@SparkedEd is the video of them playing on patreon ? I want to see them on action but can't find follow up video (if there is one )
@@Glitchy92obs I haven't been able to finish them yet
Love these drivers, I still have 2 stroker18’s from the late 90’s and my old Zapco 4K amplifier, they don’t build drivers like these anymore they’re essentially a pro audio driver with lower impedance voice coils that’s why they’re so efficient. Love them! Great video too.
Rockford amps and CV subs, wow now that's good stuff.
Fosgate is hard to beat 🤘
Just wanted to say I was 12 years old also when I got into car audio in 94. My school notebooks looked the same way and in 98 I have a stroker 18 wired to a USamp hitting 153's db. I miss those days
Loved the original stroker. Had two 12's and they were awesome. Very musical but got loud as you could possibly want, i have so many good memories of 420 sunday cruises with these lovely subs pounding out all of my favorite songs. Driving heaven lol
Yup! back in 98 had a friend we worked on his Toyota Camry. A pair CV Stroker on a infinite baffle like running free air using the trunk as a box had them on a stinger accumatch powered with a 5 channel McIntosh. It was great. Very expensive setup but it was awesome. Thanks for the video brought back memories.
Hey showtimeSPL, Wow I thought I was the last of a forgotten generation who really liked oldschool CV. I myself have been a huge CV fan mainly old-school since the early 1990s. I also had dual vc XL12s when I was 13-14 in the early 1991-2. I had my car stereo setup in my room before I had a car and was too young to drive lol. What really got my attention was when you started talking about the original earthquake subs well I have a pair of the old theater 18 inch Strokers 100% original. They look aged but still work perfect and will be using them in my theater once I get my house built. I also found 2 still new in plastic 12 inch strokers in the original boxes that will also be in the theater. I still need to build the enclosures for them and when I do I post them up on my channel during the build so you can see them. Great video!
I dreamt for years of doing a build with Strokers, from the early 90's but ,like you, they were out of reach. Now im getting back into car audio and performance and after seeing this, may just have to see some of those dreams into reality.
Wow. I remember I had a magazine from 1990s were a red Chevy blazer with four 18s strokers and us 4 us.amps won the competition. Great stuff.
I had a pair of Xl 12's in custom box mounted in the trunk well of my 85' T-Bird. It pounded so loud! All my friends loved it. I sure do miss that box.
The XLs are legendary to me as well
I was 14-15 when I got into car audio back in 92-93. I grew up just outside of Philly. I had such a passion for it. I would sit in class drawing up wiring schematics trying to figure out how it worked. In the past couple years I've caught the car audio bug again now that I can actually research everything I couldn't understand back then, thanks to youtube and the internet.
Dude! We met at Carlisle this year. I just installed Fanny!!! I love it! You're Fanny is cooling down a PPI am 2300 that is currently feeding a stroker 15 D2!!
Great history on the stroker!
Hopefully your future videos are soon. Can’t wait to see them rebuilt
Wow, he said brantley waites!, i remember him!, legendary!!!
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Dude, we are the same age... class of 99. I feel like we were probably dreaming the same thing at the same time! and those subs were my first woofers! I had 2 tens in the front of my porsche 914. Did absolutely nothing for me in the cab. But I had q series 6.5 mb quarts, and a 2nd edition kicker solo 8 that i put in between the 2 front seats. made a nice little arm rest sub box. All powered by a rockford fosgate 4020. That system sounded so good it was amazing. I sound deadened the doors and floor and man it sounded excellent.
good stuff bud love the old school design by cerwin that where definitely ahead of thar time nice to see you still got your originals laying around. boy what a love for your subs
Absolutely legendary subwoofers. Brings a smile like few things can..
Thank you for sharing your beginnings in car audio. Were the same age, hearing you describe you beginnings sounded like my story. Also thank you for explaining how the Stroker works, always wondered what the spider and rod on the cone surface did. Subscribed!
Thanks man. It certainly is an interesting feature for a woofer.
You brought some good memories I remember seeing these in the mail magazines and wishing I could afford it
Good to see another video from you. 👍 Now you got me wanting to pull out all of my car audio mags just to read about that white van. I hope that you get to finish your project and enjoy it.
YES SIR!!! LOVE VEGA'S EFFICIENCY ALWAYS WINS!!!
Wow you brought back memories with the drawings
Great vid! Just found 2 15’s for 300 and had them redone, will never let them go.
Nice!!
My first pair of subwoofers were Cerwin Vega Stroker D 12 and I found them in a small car audio shop for $150 a piece they were the best subs I’ve ever bought still till this day and $150 a piece was a absolute steal brand new in box never opened
I know this video is old at this point but I almost bought Bill's Ranger from him back in 1999 I think it was. We went back and fourth a bit about it but I didn't wind up pulling the trigger. This video reminded me of it.
DUDE- Hittin 139dB with those Vega's is impressive!
My first car system, back in the mid 80s had a couple of Le 15 " Vega subs with cloth accordion surrounds so no foam rot. They were light and efficient so required a fraction of the power to be as loud as some of the other big names, like JL. In fact a friend of mine still has one of them in Home Theater use almost 35 years later in a 10 ft3 box I helped him build.
I love the video. Man you do some amazing things with your production. I am a CV guy and had a XL-12 back in the day. I agree that they are amazing sounding subs. I have some videos of old school gear, it's just raw footage and embarrassing compared to what you have going on. I think something is wrong with youtube's algorithm because it shouldn't have taken me so long to find this awesome channel. Subscribed!
I totally remember seeing those at CES in 93 and lusting after them!
My first set of subs i got when i started driving in 93 were the 12 xl series 120s. I had them in a 4 cu.ft box vented with 3in. Tubes about 6in. Long powered by a Pyramid pb1000 amplifier. Man those were the days. Lol. I have another set of 12 in subs i bought in 05 i dont remember much about them but i will soon. I to wanted strokers but my first child was in 94. You get the pic. Thanks for the memories..
By the way i miss those xl 12ds. They were the best sounding in town. I believe i paid around 250.00 for the pair back than.
My favorite video of all time
I got to sit in the stroker van for a demo back in the 90’s . It slammed ..
My dream woofer as well.
I got 2 15" and punch 225.2 one for each on on my durango. And man. Sounds beautiful deep bass and clean
Cerwin stroker was also my dream woofer since the 90s after i saw it in a magazine. Today i have a brand new old school stroker "12" dual 4 ohm that i`m gonna use in my home cinema setup :) I also have two XL "12" brand new. My current setup is four old school cerwin vega ( vega-line) 124 that i bought 1997 - 1998. My house is shaking :)
Would like to find someone who can fix phoenix gold amps, i have a broken ms2125 in my garage.
Nice video man!
I remember when I was a kid 20 years ago a Vega rep came into a shop at told the owner if you have anything in here that can beat these I will give you 10 for free. They hooked up 1 in a Camaro and shattered the back window.
I remembered back in high school. my first year in 1996 I saw the Cerwin Vega stroker in a ad in a magazine.
The way you look at those Strokers was similar to how I saw the JL Audio W6 subs, but now what JL makes is even better, so there's really little reason to use them other than nostalgia. Even their W1 series is probably better than the original W6. I do remember drooling over the Strokers when I was in high school. Still have all my Car Audio & Electronics magazines :)
If someone offered to trade two old school stroker 15s for my two JLW7ae 13.5, I would without thinking twice.
Are you trolling? A 1000 watts on a stroker would demolish anything jl audio ever made. Literally about a 10db difference I'm sensitivity between a w7 and a stroker. W7 can displace more air and be mote musical, but it's not near as loud as a stroker in 99% of setups.
That's awesome! !! I have 2 18s and a 15 inch stroker that a guy just gave away to me for free!!!! Said they were just sitting in his garage and he wanted to give them to somebody that would use them. I want to rebuild them and try em out though I've never reconed a sub and these look a little bit more difficult.
Dude, this is awesome! I had 4 12's in a Ford Probe!
Wow literally my favourite and first combo, Vega subs and DSM amps, just missing the quart splits lol
Stroker love here
Kove has a subwoofer called Armageddon. It's a 15, and I saw it handle 2000 watts by itself. Then the very next week, they were running 4000 watts bridged.
Love this. Man I dreamed of having those strokers
I saw six 15 inch subwoofers in an s10 doing 168.9 with a Mack truck alternator... was awesome. . I still have the truck now. This was back when circuit city existed
2 of the systems posted in that video were friends of mine. Doug Humphrey had the 6 in his white Blazer with the routed boxes that created the port, The other with 12 in a Z wall was Jeremy Beavis from a shop called car stuff. I ran a single 15 inch stroker in my Ford Tempo, Done 155 DB port, and 142.4 official. I believe the prices were off at least in the car audio scense was it was 599,699 and 899. The 18 was over 1000 if I remember.
So classic,back then I knew Billy proud. I watched him cut the roof off that truck and cement it. He was using 4 Peavy black widows along with the strokes and it was loud as f×€k! Great vid!
Jesus the stroker you said was never used is as old as I am!
I looooovvvvveed the CV stroker...my favorite sub of all times
Love it Ed!!! Keep it up brother
I still have my first sub, a Kicker C10 gold letter. Next a C12, then a pair of F15s. Traded those for Orion XTR15 and it was OVER. I discovered that if you put them in a closet on a home receiver, they sound like they’re in a vehicle. Mom’s house was Quaking! 😂 🔊🔊
I have 2 15" and finaly found a good review about them
The PJs are awesome
The classic Stroker is the best sub woofer ever. I remember seeing them for the first time at a show in Sacramento in a guy's blazer. I think he had 4x 12's or 15's it was insane. I've always loved Cerwin Vega's, and they were actually my first speakers too. Not the Strokers but some AT 12's. I have some Re30 12's in my garage on an old Harmon Kardon receiver, and I love them!
Fair Oaks elect sold them in Sac Town thats when they were selling Hifonics
Bro i had a book filled with system ideas and build like you. Lol awesome. Bass for life.
This is really cool, I didn't know the history of these
Great video! Would love to see more CerwinVega! Content 🔈
After being away from car audio for the last twenty years I pulled out my never been used Stroker 12DVC with the giddiness a teen to pair with my Audio Frog GB front stage. The wife said she thought I had grown out of car audio...told her I'm back!
Love those strockers. I had two rf- punch 8 in. Subs. People told me they sounded like 12s...😉
Great video. Enjoyed it a lot.
Chris Denardo, owner of the Al & Eds Autosound shop in Escondido Ca is building a sound system in his 2014 Scion xB with 2 Stroker 15's. It will be ported.
Ed, thanks for the mention - those were great times! Brantley Waites
Hey thanks Brantley. I was always such a huge fan of the work you guys did. I do know there was some confusion on who was the first over 160 because of how close it was in time, and lack of internet. Some of the publications had it wrong and I hope you are correctly accredited in the history books.
@@SparkedEd thank you and I really appreciate it!
@@SparkedEd I am sending you some info on IG
Thank you. If you can, please send to my personal IG at SparkedEd or message through YT. If it's to the sparked Innovations page, it's a shared account that I have limited access to and the last message on there just says it's unavailable for viewing.
@@SparkedEd can do. What’s the best way to send? I can email if that would work
Great video with a legendary sub! pretty cool of your mom to let you run a system in her vehicle, that was probably a pretty good score do you remember where you placed in that competition?
I wasn't sure on what place. It was an IASCA event in 95 so no head to head or clear score keeping beyond the 1,2,3 people. It was also back when we had 30 people in 1 class so I imagine I was close to the bottom. I didn't get a trophy until I was 17.
Boom and thanks for your upbeat message tone...
I'm with you on how them basic Vegas sound looking at today's subs it seems impossible comparing the two
I remember someone's biuld killing all competitions it was a small square vw..rabbit... the hole car was full of concrete and had 5 strokers in this big concrete car they had to bolt the door shut.. I wasn't even driving yet. Listing over these magazines
I find your videos relaxing and encouraging! Awesome 👍
I appreciate the positive words man
The home audio red surround Cerwin Vegas (are they all XL models?), are the greatest subwoofer of all time if we are talking about exposure. Those subs were set dressing in almost every urban sitcom and movie (possibly other genres, too), of the 90's. If you watch anything from that period, you're likely to see those bright red surrounds in a couple boxes in the background. I had four XL12's back in the day, so I'm likely more inclined to notice, but they are there.
I love some Cerwin Vegas!
Glad to see you making videos again. I think the last video I saw of yours was when you were prepping your HHR for a system
I wish I had all the Wish Lists that I made. I would look through my Crutchfield magazines in class sometimes lol
Short answer… YES. Unfortunately 90% of people had no idea how much the enclosure mattered and were constantly putting them in too small of boxes, or two in a box that could only handle one. So they ended up sounding like shit when some people heard them because user didn’t know what they were doing.
I actually seen the black truck in the early 2000s she was a beast !!great video
CV’s always sounded good to me ....I used to rock them in big ass ported box on a couple hundred watts...so goood! Cheers!
Yes Vega makes the best sub woofers in the Uk and Us period
I still have my CV Stroker 15" D2 from 1997.. It is in my Mazda mx3.. and i newer gonna sell it..
beautyfull Cerwin vega woofer professionnal, my favorite pro woofer its DAS g35 15 inches 600w rms 4 inches coill cool vidéo👍
That's awesome brother keep up the good work
This was a great speaker but the best subwoofer ever is TC Sound LMS Ultra 5400... I read TC sounds design the hcca for Orion. Well they dont make the lms and TC Sound isn't around anymore. The woofer that took it's place in my opinion is the RE Audio xxx
Love the channel by the way
Im a fucking bass addicted! 🔉🔊
I am a bass addict as well
Cool show time, remember back in 1995(96) my oldest brother was working at Jack in the box and had a mine blowing experience with 6 of theses cerwin Vega strokers, he said the hole Jack shook.lol..the end.lol
That's the kind of memories I love.
I have two of these stroker 18s. In my home theater. Each one in it's own 9 cuft box. On each side the room. They will make explosions sound like explosions if i want them too. Lol
Awesome video Ed!! I’m still in love with those subs.
Still have my vegas from 1980 surrounds disenegrated years ago