CONCRETE SIDEWALKS (part 9) Mike Haduck
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- I am showing how I float finish a concrete sidewalk or patio. All my videos ar my ways and ideas, and I always suggest when someone is building to ask outside professional help.
I don't mine being trained by you Mike you are a great teacher..
Thanks Simone, I appreciate it, mike
Hi Mike, pay no mind to this Internet professionals that are commenting based on what they've seen/read but not done. Your method works just fine and the finished product is nice. Keep your great videos coming! God bless you and yours!
Thanks Mike! For me, the best part of your video was at the very end. Once the boards are removed I didn't like the looks of the pot holes on my home projects but decided that they would be covered by dirt then grass. I would see other jobs and sometimes they were there and sometimes not... then bingo I watched this and though so obvious but I didn't have a clue. The sponge was the icing on the cake. Thanks for the details and your time to put this together!
thanks Andrew, I am glad it helped, mike
Man I so much appreciate Mike's videos, I am doing many concrete works on my mom's home, I read books , videos, and advise by passer bys. It is characteristics in Mike's teaching that he tells u other people may do it differently, another way, or another approach. That makes me feel better so that I am not too hard on myself of un necessarily strict. Mike gently mentions pearls of wisdom from years of experience . He is the All American, and the type what makes this country great !!!
thanks, I do try and sometime wonder what folks are thinking, thanks again for the feedback. mike
he references "when the time is right " a couple of times, but never says how to tell when it is that time.
Mike I cant thank you enough for taking the time and going through every step consistently...I watch many of these video's more then once!!
Thanks Kenneth, mike
Like the lowering edge to allow water to run off faster and not see the bow visibly
God bless you sir .after 45 years in the business, I thougth I was wrong but I must have been mistaken, I,I will try to forget everything I learned and do it your way. thanks for the advice, God bless you. Mike
Mike, watching you at work was truly like watching an artist. Thanks for sharing.
just a little experience not much more I have to brag about, thanks mike
excellent work as always! I am currently taking a 2 year masonry course in college and i'm the top in my class (not to brag) and I wanted to tell you watching your videos for methods help me out a lot! thank you sir!
Its OK, I am having fun with the videos and glad to share my ways. everybody does it different and I try to express that. I appreciate the comment. thanks . mike
I chuckled when you two struggled a bit to get in sinc on rodding off the mud. I've also used the trick of dragging the edger across the slab for a bit of butter for edging. You're showing how I learned almost 40 years ago. :)
good to hear from other pros, thanks mike
yes many times we whack it down and over screed it. to get the rocks down. different ways at different times. was in the UK and think you guys are best. thanks mike
Mike, if I could afford it I would fly you out to California to work on my place. Thank you so much for being a great teacher and an excellent craftsman.
thanks, Joe, I am glad if the videos help folks, I appreciate it. mike
I'll be doing some concrete jobs around the house shortly as well as some mortar work on a few bricks I have issues with. Your videos are very helpful and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge!
thanks mike
Nothing wrong with the job, but I still would recommend the mesh regardless of how it is being used. The mesh helps it to last many, many more years, and adds to its durability. You never know what the future holds, and what may have to pass over that patio - let's say they build a pool beside it... that requires heavy trucks. Also, I agree with blackjack - always finish with trowel or broom. You can get creative too and do different broom patterns.
Great video, I learnt a lot. Thanks for your time mate.
Man that is some great concrete finish keep up the good work. keep rocking it
+OD Builds thanks, I appreciate it . mike
The fiber mesh is suppose to help with shrikage cracking and doesnt add to structural benefits. Thanks for the video Mike1 liek i said it is alwys interesting to watch other guys and their methods. anyone that pours concrete for a living is a hard working man and earns his money honestly!
When I do decorstive esp stamped I go to a 5 or 6" pour with 3/8 rebar 2' OC. It is always nice to see how other guys pour and their methods. I do swirl occasionally but note to alot of guys out there that act like they are know-it alls, a swirl finish is more prone to wear and tear and chipping bc to get a swirl you are practically ripping the crete open. although a swirl with alot of grooves and picture frame looks nicer than a standard broom.
thanks for the Video!
I Think your doing a great job Mike.
Thanks for the nice comment, no worries here, I might have thought the same way when I was young, I wish them well, God bless Mike
that's what I was told only good for the shrinkage. I appreciate the comment and yes it is hard honest work. I wish you well. God Bless. mike
Love your videos Mike Keep them Coming. I'm a mason in South Lake Tahoe, CA
Thanks for the comment, sometimes I wonder what everybody thinks. Mike
Nice to see that honeycomb patched. Makes it look so much better.
I appreciate the comment. and I agree. I was told by the legal folks from the concrete company that the fiber mesh is only good for one day.and I could continue with a few storys about that, but wont comment on it more. I do use it for certain jobs though. check it out. thanks mike
Everyone has their own way to pour and finish and what kind of mix they use. here in the midwest we always trowel finish then broom it with a light bristle broom. the reason we trowel it is bc it closes the concrete a bit more to make it less pourous than a mag finish. As far as wire mesh goes, all it does is allow for bigger spacing between expansion and control joints, ad when the concrete does crack it holds it together, I am big on the fiber mesh personally.
I won't use wire in concrete if it is just being walked on. Driving on it is a different story. and all jobs have different reasons for doing things. Hope that answered the question. thanks mike
I am almost 60 years old and been doing it sence I was a kid. and I know everyone approaches it different,but I am always willing to learn the right way so send me the link of the video you done so I could lean from the master... God bless mike
Cement is an ingredient like sand.
Concrete is the end product at various strengths.
Nice job.
thanks I appreciate it. mike
Its Ok, the builder usually has their ways and reasons. God bless. Mike
thanks for the comment, I know there are many great craftsmen out there. thanks mike
it look so pretty
thanks mike
i forgot to add i like that big ass hand steel you were using.
Its impossible to say unless I seen it. but as a rule of thumb when In doubt I use it. ask some local pros for their opinion. good luck. mike
This video raises all kinds of questions for me. Would it be possible to run a length of string where the joints are going to be before the pouring? If you did this, you would be able to cut the concrete while it is still wet, by pulling the string up. This would save you the cost of a diamond blade drill. Do you think this would work? Next question, some other people have made videos where they use a power sander on the forms to vibrate all of the concrete voids out, while the concrete is still wet. Have you done anything like that before?
Every mason in every area has different techniques, styles and traditions, and they usually do what works for them in that area, I always try to put my expanders in first but the swimming pool guys like (how I brush finish concrete-Mike Haduck) do it while they are pouring, it all depends. that is why I always say in my videos "How I do it". and never tell folks how they should do it. hope it helps. mike
I appreciate the comment. thanks mike
Mike thanks for all your experiance to save us beginners a lot of time and money my question... what would happen if you put the concrete empty bags. and stuffed in the footings before pouring your concrete?
thanks for the comment. God bless. mike
I try, still learning myself , thanks for the coment , mike
one man, one screed!!
+southpacniggah676 I would guess experience governs that, thanks mike
by the way those holes you should at the end, we in the business call those honeycombs they show up when you dont vibrate the concrete..
+Natnael Kenaw How does a homeowner vibrate the wet concrete to avoid these voids? Can you just press down and jiggle the float side to side, or smack the float down many times on the wet concrete. Or, poke a stick into the wet concrete over and over? I've heard tapping the form with a hammer works too. I guess the side to side motion of the screed is not enough.
+Nicholas Hoffenpiper when the concrete is going in I will be moving the board back & forth which will settle it and then the long trowel, bullfloat or trowel should take care of the rest. it is something you got to do to get it. I would do something very small first to get the idea. check out my videos on how I pour a concrete slab, hope it helps thanks mike
thanks for the comment. mike
thanks for the comment, mike
Good show ,Mike . I need all the info i can get . I have done at least 6 pointing jobs since your videos. Again ,Thank you .
+Albert Forlini well thank you. I feel I am on the right track, passing along what the old timers taught me. thanks mike
Nice video man . My father and I have our own small business in northern California , my dad is a contractor , and has his concrete license , craftsman , and masonry license . We do all types of concrete from start to finish , stamped , brushed finished , you name it we could do it , also do retaining walls , brick work , front steps to entrance house , and additions to . Nice video man , I plan video tapeing it and posting it on UA-cam , Facebook and Also Instagram .
Kinda sorta make it harder than it really needs to be. But in the end it turned out very nice, good job!
+Luvliv Own thanks, Mike
I love your hat
thanks london, I am a slave to fashion. lol, mike
I'm a uk builder and finishing seems almost identical to our way but I would like to ask if you ever tamp the gravel down with a whacking plate as I've watched a few and it looks like ( or doesn't) that American builders never put this into the videos, I understand that its only a small slab but any time I use gravel or hardcore I whack it down..... Anyway great job on the clip
I was taught to tamp the concrete to push the aggregate down, Mike, but I don't see anything wrong with how you pour concrete. The title of the video clearly states that the subject is float finishing, after all, so the focus here is obviously on the final stages of the process. Anyway, just wanted to counter some of the unproductive comments by showing you some support. PLEASE keep up the good work.
there is a million ways to do it and every contractor I worked for has their own way and ideas,. as long as it comes out right in the end it is fine thanks for the support. mike
How do you know when to trowel ? What does the cement look/feel like to know when to start the different steps ? For example when to use the bull float vs. then starting the edging and cutting. Thanks for the videos. Great stuff
it really takes experience, summer is different than winter., got to practice on something small and work your way up. thanks mike
i recomend strip forms and clean up sides same day waste of money to come back another day for sack and patch unless im working in my "back yard"
+Sam Gonzales check out my video "Industrial concrete work" - rebar - forming - testing - (Mike Haduck) it might help, thanks mike
I'm in NJ Mike. My Uncle Tony who was a mason for 50 years used to call the water rising up out of the concrete "fat", he used to say " bringing up the fat" lol, do you use that term? I'm an engineer but like to get my hands dirty, do side work, just enjoy it. Good video Mike.
I call it "cream"
Always called it Soup.
The main thing with pouring concrete is that you pour it at a good slump4-5", and drag it off flat and water runs away from house, building etc, and from yuor video it seems you do that. and depending on climate and weather the finish is a big thing to, on a driveway that doesnt have much pitch I want a nice light brush finish, on a steep driveway you need a bit more of a rough finish to ensure traction. however not to rough to where yuo decrese Integrity of crete.
Stupid assess my family are Canadian have been in the building trade for centuries and find this method works fine!! Great video
Mike, When I do an overlay/resurfacing to a sidewalk or driveway, Im using 2 sand 1 cement and of course addressing the cracks during my preparation. Is there anything that im missing.
Hi Kenneth, I have videos and playlist on the way I do here in PA, every situation is different, thanks mike
LMAO everyone who works with crete bashin on him for the air bubbles, i find it awesome... "hammer those forms!" "get the vibrator on that" ... N im a mason but i just watched this and was like well he did this and this and this differently but the job was still done correctly for a finished product so yeah... Good video... I would have added a mason rake in there tho before the screet board... 1, you can pull the access away with rake access as opposed to shifting a board back n forth a million times (lololol) and 2, you can flip the rake UP and pat the top like you would pat a mag to bring up the cream... I also would have used a finishing trowel as well :P but like he said... Everyone does stuff differently..... O... N im a form tapper fyi lol but i DO check after for pockets STILL cuz ya never know
Cody Smith thanks Cody, your right we all do it different, I appreciate the comment, good to hear from the pros, mike
good work...only comments are - why not scrape your forms as you go w/ your edger-- keeps your forms cleaner from hardened concrete- also when saw cutting- instead of a board w/ a guy standing on it-= snap a chalk line then cut w/ a wet saw (concrete cutoff saw) water reduces the dust- finally- the honeycombs on sides of edge from forms don't necesarrliy need to be covered w/ Portland cement- *Esp if you backfill your form areas with topsoil. Overall good video on how to finish concrete! nice job (*I like the swivel *(Swirl) finish the best - I do that on most every patio job we do... it looks sharp if you get a coarse swirl by using a wood float.
thanks I appreciate the comment. God bless. mike
I really appreciate your videos, Mike. How do you know it's time to start finishing? I think you said wait 45 minutes, and it depends on the weather. Some indicators that come to mind...
1. Bleed water (wait until it stops and starts to evaporate, but before it all evaporates?)
2. Firmness (wait until it's a little firm?)
3. Color (wait until it's lighter in color?)
When is it too early and when is it too late to finish? Thank you!
+Nicholas Hoffenpiper on my other videos I think I explain it better, but I just keep checking it like making pancakes, you know when they are ready, hard to explain unless you have done it. thanks mike
a good rod man is the Idea the way that was rodded was pretty different "side to side" like a saw?thats different..a good rod man is the key.
+Sam Gonzales check out my video "Industrial concrete work, rebar-forming and testing" Mike Haduck , It might help, thanks mike
Quick question, I'll be pouring concrete soon and there will be some tight spots. Do they make magnesium floats that are small? Less than 10 inches? Thanks Mike!
Hi jesse, some masonry supply companies carry some smaller ones but the old timers made theirs out of wood thanks mike
why do you parge the honeycomb(holds in the side of the slab) after you take the forms off instead of vibrating along the form while your placing? also i see that the gravel you are using is not fine nor is it packed with a tamper, is this okay to do it this way?
Camille Simair there are hundreds of thousands of concrete contractors and everybody got their own way, I always say "anything that works for you" vibrating on small jobs can cause more damage than good, you got to feel whats right, God bless, mike
The next day when you were making your relief cuts with the circular saw, how deep do you go down into the concrete?
maybe an inch more to insurer it breaks where I want it. ( I pray) thanks mike
I'm not the best in the world with concrete, but love to learn.. How do you poor and work concrete until it has a slick finish? Almost glass like... I'm wanting to do my garage floor and i'd like for it to have the slick finish, but never really knew how to finish it that smoothly
Hi Dolittle, good to hear from you. I seen you videos and wish you well. I like your youtube site, you are a real american, anyway, check out my videos "How I smooth finish concrete", Mike Haduck , If your garage floor freezes in the winter you might think of putting a few inches of gravel under the concrete, those couple videos should give you food for thought, thanks mike
Mike,I am a small concrete contractor & finisher. I thought about making some videos also. Do you have a guy there specifically w/a video camera following you around the pour. Or do you have the camera on a tripod? Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks in advance,God Bless. Great videos by the way !
Ryan Rall Hi Ryan, sometimes both, they don't always come out the way I want and some I never use, but it is a learning process for sure ,I hope it works out for you, God bless mike
Ryan Rall try a go pro I think you would be one of the first
hi mike why do you move your hand float in a circle?im trying to learn how to do this and everyone at work tells me to use a back and forth motion
what I can say is every company I ever worked for told me how to do it a different way, I think with time you will develop your own style and own way that works for you, like playing a guitar everyone does it different, the final finish will tell the story, keep it up. thanks, mike
Wwhy do you sometimes use sand 4 the edge holes and sometimes you dont?
Thanks, Mike
just wondering why you dont use a wooden float first to get the creamy stuff and then use a steel trowl to finish it?
every mason has their own style or way, and time is usually a big factor on how much time you spend working it. hope it helps. thanks mike
Do you ever use treated lumber as an expansion joint?
No, but I would not doubt that some would use it, probably 1/2 inch but I have used cedar in the past, all depends on the the job, thanks mike
Where do you get that long towel? What's its called
It a long float, masonry supply stores, thanks Mike
my outside steps are painted.I am tired of painting them every year. Toronto (CANADA) has extreme whether -40 c to +35 c
Sir, what is Strike-off?
Floating?
Straight edging?
the problem is that every mason from every area calls everything different, and has a different way of doing it. you can call it anything you like but mostly the jobs turn out the same. thanks mike
@3:36, has the board your kneeling on ever broke on you?
hi michael, no, not far to fall, it was all i had at the time, thanks mike
No Tamper ? You can hear the float dragging across the stones !
Hi johnny, screening the concrete back an forth usually makes the bigger stones sink, a lot of what you are hearing is the concrete sand, thanks mike
what float do you use wood or magnisium or does it matter?
Hi Steven, the old times made their own floats out of wood, buying them is a new school thing , but I do not think it matters as long as you get the finish you want, some even use a brush like on my how I broom finish concrete, part 2 thanks mike
thank you sir.
where is your wire?
+Noah Ernst it all depends on the job, wire is not always the right thing, experience usually says when it is needed, and sometimes "not" for certain reasons, I hope it helps, thanks mike
Hey Mike, There's something awfully familiar about you. Did you work on John and Cheryl's house out by Harveys Lake back in '87?
Hi Jim, , I was working in jersey with the union then, I doubt it, but thanks mike
wheres the brome??
You know what your doing Mike, get a aluminum screed bar for a better job, homemade wood ones bow making high places.
Hi Gary, every time I got a aluminum one someone stole it, borrowed it, bent it, etc etc,,,, and then I got to store it. so I gave up, lol, mike
Thanks for the reply Mike, I can understand that. Have been in construction for years, if I had back everything that was stolen I could retire.
Hi Gary, very true, I appreciate it. mike
Good work Mike, like I said you know what you're doing. My Dad and I built swimming pools for years, in ground gunite pools with a plaster finish, concrete decks. We poured hundreds of yards. Concrete decks around pools are tricky, to smooth and they're slippery, to rough and they tear up the feet, we did a broom finish and like you said timing was everything. Keep up the good work.
thanks Gary, Pools are a whole thing by itself for sure, I appreciate it. mike
how do you pay mike by hour or by day...ill get the other side of that rod for ya.. LOL
Hi Concrete, I got to say I make less money every year and it is because I have become friends with most of my customers and do not have the heart to rip them off, (if that makes sence) so sometimes it is by the hour and sometimes by the day, but as the Lords say, "a labor is work his wages" so at the same time I do not sell myself short, and I am very conservative, thanks Merry Christmas, mike
i feel ya man our wages here in upstate ny are high but on sidejobs depending on who it is family friend or another contractor i get anything from cold beer to 250$ a day. we is buried in snow now so i gotta watch concrete videos till springs comes HAPPY HOLIDAYS
I hear you, Merry Christmas, thanks mike
This is all wrong.. First of all you poured it like a noob, and your way too slow for such a microscopic job no offense. You need a rake to place it first then pull it with a 10 foot 2 by 4 with handles never side to side like that, then you step in it and finish it by trowel. And there's no mesh, common bro a job that size should take no longer than 15 min to pour and finish.
Not enough concrete dude
everybody got their opinion, God bless, mike
I was joking sorry
Bad that's all I can say
I am sure you can still buy handbook with all info you need on woodprix. Just google it.
it look so pretty
Mike thanks for all your experiance to save us beginners a lot of time and money my question... what would happen if you put the concrete empty bags. and stuffed in the footings before pouring your concrete?
Mike thanks for all your experiance to save us beginners a lot of time and money my question... what would happen if you put the concrete empty bags. and stuffed in the footings before pouring your concrete?