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Why THESE Are MORE EXCITING Than The Morelia 2
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2023
- The Adler Yatagarashu is a fantastic pair of football boots made from premium quality leather, KaRVO base plate, Cambrelle inserts, and Itogo laces. They are the epitome of Made In Japan quality.
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Thanks Noah for the review. I picked up the same color a full size down and it fits well. I like how the toe box is not pointed as some and the height of the toe box is not too low either.
Class mate! Love to hear that.
I emailed Adler and they said they will have sizes up to 12 sometime next year
Class!!
Are you serious?!?
Noah thank you so much for the reviews! Appreciate the time and effort you put in for the viewers.
I did manage to order 3 silos this morning 😅 got the Horenso in red, Yatagarashu in white and the Yamatokyo in all black, was super curious about the synthetic and leather blend option they have.
No worries mate!
That's class! My Yamatokyo review drops next monday! They're unreal
Love the detail close ups in this video!! Amazing to see the work that has gone into them. Would be interested to see these shots again with future videos. Definitely will be picking these up when they come back into stock.
Thanks mate! Love that 🔥
Check now!!!! They back in stock . I just ordered mine.. hurry I don’t think they’ll last lmao
I think my 442s are comfortable for what they are, can’t imagine how premium these might feel 🔥 love the review
Unreal comfort mate! Definitely several steps up
Just ordered a pair after Adler announced a short restock. Havent worn a non Nike boot since 2014 so this is a pretty big change for me but im excited. Thanks for putting me on game¡
Love that mate! Enjoy!
Thank you so much for this recommendation! I have very wide stubby feet and have tried literally every top end boot including Mizunos and NB wide variations. Luckily dicks has a solid return policy lol. I just got my pair of Yatagarashu today and it’s insane how well these fit. I’m ordering a second pair so I don’t have to go through months of searching for a quality boot. Screw these big name brands for charging so much for less and less quality every new generation!
Fantastic mate, love to hear that! 🔥
Did you go a full or half size down?
Noah, First things first, you are amazing at reviewing boots. The Adler Yatagarashu are by far the best leather boots in the market. I only use Mizuno MIJ, Diadora, and Aspics, but this is just special. I use Morelia II size 10us and Neo 9.5 US. The Adler size 8.5us fits me perfectly after wearing them around home for a few days. Initially, I ordered 9US but decided to go down half a size more, and BOOM, perfect fit.
My only suggestion is to add a little padding to the lover part of the heel area. It not a problem as-is but this in my opinion can make it even better ;-)
Thank you Noah!!!!
Thank you mate! And that's so great to hear you're enjoying your adlers! They're a great brand and unreal boots!
Have both the Yatagarashu and the Horenso.. Hardly any difference in both. I went for Adler because I have 4E width feet (extra-wide). Went HALF a size down and they fit me perfectly after putting shoe width expanders in them for a few days. Playing in them right away will do as well, i just wanted to avoid as much discomfort as possible. The shoes have about 5mm of space left up front but doesn't really bother me because I use this for ultinate frisbee and not football.
One under appreciated aspect about these boots are the LACES. By far, the best laces i have ever used ever, in any shoe.
One note, I destroyed the standard black insole after 1 day of using my boots.
Fair enough mate! That's class you found the right size! Thanks for your feedback 🔥
You're welcome mate! After spending thousands on football boots I finally found the brand that fits my feet thanks to your reviews. Thank you. Cheers!@@NoahCavanaugh
Which one do u prefer 😊
Hi Noah, thanks for putting out these super informative videos. Would love to see you do a comparison between the horenso vs yatagarshu
No worries mate! Definitely planning on a few comparisons soon!
adler yatagarushu are, in fact, a little more expensive than the Morelias 2 MIJ in Japan, going for 25200 Japanese yen against 24200(160 dollars) for the morelias. It's just that MIzuno retails them for much bigger price in Europe and the US, but you can buy the morelias from Japan through services like Zenmarket and it's gonna be the same approx. 200 dollars including shipping and import fees. So I'd say it's fair to compare them as the same price boots.
That's great mate!
Just ordered them this week! I am a U.S. 9.5, I ordered a Size 8.5! Really excited for them!👏
That's awesome mate! Love to hear that. Let me know how you go!
Thanks to you and your Horenso video,been making a bit of research about Adler boots and it’s been on my radar since. The Horenso very much a model that I’m incredibly interested about
Love that mate! 💙
The beginning of the video you sound like a little kid opening a christmas present 😂. Makes me really consider if i should get these over the mizuno morelia 2🧐
They're class bro! Definitely would recommend
By the end of the video i have decided to order these over the morelia 2 thank you gotta jump on this train before prices raise definitely a hidden gem.
Cheaper too right now
MUCH cheaper for sure like @bootmaniac1795 mentioned and they're absolutely stunning on feet
Another perfect review by Noah the goat 🔝
Thank you mate! 🤝
I wonder why the Horenso seems to have less springback than the Yata, despite having the same full-length karvo shank and soleplate construction.
I'm not sure mate! Might have something to do with the KaRVO itself, or the way the upper is constructed
They are giving mizuno a serious run for their money. Would like to learn more about the differences across their 4 lines.
Absolutely... These are sensational quality!
Thank you for all the detail. Just got a pair a full size down and hope they fit properly.
Love it mate! Enjoy!
They're back in stock again (and going like hotcakes)!
LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
Great video! Your reviews are always interesting 🔥
Thanks for watching mate!
Just got mine in the mail! Thank you Noah for the review, it really helped me push the purchase button. If you guys are scared of the sizing and don't even know what your normal size is to go a full size down from, I ended up tracing my foot and measured it in centimeters. i was 25.7cm and ended up getting the 25.5cm. If your in Canada beware I got hit with a $92 CAD customs fee :(
Love to hear that mate! 🔥
Did you have space or was it tight?
Are they tight or do you have some space I just ordered a 25.5
As always, excellent review Noah! Hopefully one day I can get a pair. Greetings from Buenos Aires.
Thanks mate! Definitely would recommend them!
when is the comparisson video coming between these and the morelia 2?
Maybe next month!
I do wish they used suede as a liner I would 100% sold. Very cool boot nonetheless!
They omitted it to save on weight and bulk! The inside feels unreal when you connect with the ball 💯
Can't wait for my pair. Pre-ordered in December:) same color. Thanks for your review
Class mate! 🔥 Enjoy them!
Thanks for such thoughtful and thorough reviews! Looking for size advice: I wear US 10.5 in Mizuno Alphas and Morelia Neo 4 Pro Turf both of which are snug in width but have about thumbs-width of space left in front. Would you recommend a 9.5 or 10 in the Yatagarashu? I'm also an 11.5 US in Nike Vapor Elites which is throwing my judgement off I think... Thanks for considering and again, AWESOME reviews!
This could become my new boots when my Puma Futures (1.4) will be destroyed. Looks classic and high quality at the same time. Especially for that price.
They're unreal mate!
What would make you go for these over Horenso ... or vice versa?
Yatas fit me better mate
I have the exact same pair and for the price and quality definitely better then Mizuno
If both cost the same, what would you choose?
The yatagarsu
Love to hear it mate!
In a previous video clip of yours, you took Yatagarasu as a size 26.5 cm
In this clip, the size was half a cm smaller. Did you find a difference?
My foot size is 26 cm
Yes, going a full size down (27-->26 for me) was the best! These red ones fit a LOT better.
@@NoahCavanaugh Thanks for the recommendation
Do you think these would hold up on Ag ground? I play on Ag usually and I think they won’t really hold up due to how thin the K-leather is on the upper
Yep! I've worn them on AG quite a bit and they're awesome 🔥
Hi Noah love the videos and my girlfriend will hate you because ive bought to many boots on your recommendation😂 I rewatched your 1 month review of these curious to see have your ratings changed? I Just purchased a pre order of these looking forward to receiving these! Also happy Christmas/New year!
Your girlfriend can hate me all she wants 🫶🏼 A new 1 month review is coming soon mate!
Hi Noah , quick question , I love leather boots but I train everyday, usually on at and durability is constantly an issue. I’ve worn cops sense / pure for the last 3 years and loved both especially the pure but the durability was poor . Should I try the synthetic upper for the legend 10 or try a legend 9 ? Anyone else who knows fell free to answer 👍 great review btw
You could try the Adler Yamatokyo! (review drops next week monday). Exact same boot as these Yatagarashu except the upper is a really nice synthetic leather
Wish I had the red ones. They look so good!
💯
Adler is narrowing its market by making very small sizes, it should have a more extensive size catalog, 13 US for example.
You have to realize that Adler has a VERY small shop and can only accomodate a certain number of boots per year. US 13 will hopefully be on the market for them soon, but if you knew a bit more about Adler as a company, you might understand why it's so difficult when ALL of your boots are handmade 🤝
@@NoahCavanaugh True, thanks for the comment, I hope I can soon have a pair of these beautiful soccer boots, greetings
when you say a size down is that from shoe size or usual boot size?
Usual boot size. Full comparison for free here: www.noahcavanaugh.com/product-page/football-boot-sizing-guide
Noah this is the most exciting boot, and the ASICS is the most comfortable but so is this one? And herenzo is the best value for money but also the best leather boot but the NB 422 is also the best value for money but morelia 2 is the goat boot and so is the Morelia dna and I’m forgetting the a lot of other contradictions.. dude I think you should review a pair of copa mundial just so we have some kind of reference of where you’re at.. it would also be great to have someone like you who’s into all the new tech compare the mundials performance
Both these and the Asics are class mate! Some of the most comfortable boots on the market! It’s all going to depend on what you enjoy mate, all the options you’ve mentioned are fantastic boots.
The problems with Copa Mundials in 2023:
- Mundials go for around 160 USD now, the same pricepoint as Adler (which offer _a lot_ more tech) and more than New Balance 442 Pros
- they weigh well over 300 grams dry, and soak up so much water that I suspect they weigh 400+ grams when wet
- the soleplate has almost no snapback
- the soleplate is thin and soft by modern standards, causing stud pressure on artificial grass
- as with the rest of the soleplate, the polyurethane used for the studs is very soft by modern standards, and so they wear down quickly playing on AG
Mundials are a good boot (full k-leather upper is never a bad thing), but Adidas is overcharging for them relative to its pricepoint competition. They simply don't perform as well as modern k-leather boots.
Bro I wear copa pure 9.5 us men. Think I should get these in a 9us? Thanks for the QUALITY OMDz reviews!
Yeah I reckon that or an 8.5!
get an 8.5, from my experience that's what works
@@Archer5k thanks my guy!! I’m loaded in boots and trying to justify me getting this pair. Super super sweet looking pair. I’ll def go 8.5 to get that 9.5 fit I do in copas. If I do end up getting these bad boys.
But what if we compare Morelia 2 and Yatagarasha? if we assume that their price is the same. what would you choose?
That's a tough comparison mate! Both are fantastic. I'm probably picking the Yata because of how thin the upper is
Decided to go with the Horenso since the red Yatagarashu sold out. I honestly can't wait to play in them. I am curious how fast the shipping is.
I got mine in 3 days to the USA
Class mate! Usually 3-7 days
@@NoahCavanaugh OMG it got here so fast! Ordered it on Oct 30th and I got it today!
Japan ships fast to the United States, in general. However, shipping from Japan to Europe is nightmarish, or so I'm told.
I'm in the States, bought pair of Asics from a Japanese merchant off of ebay, received them in two days. It was crazy. The shipping was free!
Thank you for the review.
Could you confirm if the additional insole at 1:30 comes standard with the package? I have flat feet and this additional insole may just break the tie between Yata and Morelia 2
Actually, the KarVo insert already broke the tie for me, but the inserts (if come standard) makes this a no brainer
Yeah the extra insoles are standard
They're standard.
How noticeable is the Karvo? Is the snappiness similar to the feel of the Neo 3/4 and the DNAs?
Also, how’s the lateral movement compared to the Morelia IIs?
It feels super natural on feet, I wouldn't say it is as noticeable as a carbon plate.
I've personally tested the Mizuno Morelia snapback (nylon shank) to the Mizuno Alpha snapback (karvo shank), by taking each empty boot, flexing the forefoot, and letting go to see how high the boot jumped into the air. By that metric, *the Alpha's snapback appeared to be twice as strong as the Morelia.*
So, in theory, since Adler uses karvo, the snapback with Yatas/Horensos _should_ be stronger than what the nylon half-shank in Morelias provides.
Absolute love it!! Excellent review! The red looks sooooooo goood.
Thank you mate! The red is class, can't wait to get these cruising in sessions
@@NoahCavanaugh Heck yeah!
Hi, noah, i wear mizuno Morelia 4 beta US9/EU42，nike tiempo 9 TF US9.5/EU43. What size should get for this? Also does the alternative insole reduce the space inside the boots, since it’s thicker?Thanku
I'd go for a 9 or 8.5 even
the only problem i have with adler is that they dont have sizing for everyone. Im a 13us (300jp) and they only go up to a 10us (280jp). Oh well...
I agree, I wish they had bigger sizing too!
I just ordered a pair in a size 9.5US! I’m usually a comfortable 10.5US for nike. Do you think it will fit well still?
i got them because of this video haha hope you get sponsored
Yes, definitely! It would be awesome to get sponsored 💯
I also wear 10.5US in Nike. How well did the 9.5US Yatas end up fitting you?
Very interested in these at the moment. Love the thin leather barefoot feel but I do wonder, im a very shifty footballer that needs to make cuts and stopovers and change of pace quick as possible, that’s my game. I wonder if the sole plate just isn’t aggressive enough for that type of play style. What do you think?
I think you'll be just fine 🤝
So if I wear a size in the mizuno Morelia 2, and they fit perfect, what size would you recommend for these?
half a size down if you have wide feet. full size down if narrow feet. the adler boots are more barefoot than morelia 2 as they have much less padding in the boot, giving you more space in the boots thus it feels "wider" or "longer"
Full size down
Wondering if the size 28 (10 U.S on their website) would fit me? I wear an 11.5 U.S in the tiempo made in italy, but also a 10.5 U.S in diadora brasils. Adler also emailed me saying they'll have larger sizes sometime next year.
I doubt it mate, that's probably too small for you. I'd wait till next year!
Man Noah, please try Mexico Manríquez Leather boots. They’re really durable and soft
I'll do my best mate!
What’s the key differences between the whole Adler line up and which is your favourite and why’s
Cheers
Also I’m a size 25.5cm with tiny space upfront in my Mizuno morelia neo 4 betas. Should I stick to that size or go down to 25cm
I’d go down a full size mate 🤝 check out my reviews on all 4!
i’m a US7 but they only have 6.5 as the lowest so can’t go down a full size :/
That's probably going to work mate!
Bro you say in the first review that these can be better, the you say in the review of the Horenso that they are better, now you say these are better, which are better? if you buy a new colourway of the horenso you will say they are better ?
why you change opinion so fast ? give us the answer of wich are better, pls!
The Adler rep he got the boots from gave him a bad size recommendation the first time. He got the black ones a half size down from his usual size instead of a full size down.
It's all about sizing brother. I prefer the shape of these more than the Horenso WHEN I HAVE THE RIGHT SIZE. 🤝 That being said, I'm sure the Horenso is better for some people!
@@NoahCavanaugh ty bro, so in other video you buyed half size more than this one ? so this one is perfect now ? and better than horenso? i need a more "speed" shoe and in the other review you say that horenso is more for speed, now you say this is more for speed, wich you advice to me ?
hello mr cavanaugh sorry for asking again but, i can only get sg speedflows since they only have my size and i play on regular grass. Do you think replacing the metal studs with shorter tpu studs be a good option.
Sure!
it still baffles me how you wear a full size down! I wear true to size and my feet was almost at the end of the boot with just a wee bit of space left. but lockdown was slightly poorer than Morelia 2 as yata is more barefoot and less padding. my feet was swimming in it. ended up going down half a size and it fits nicely although more break in time required.
That's good mate! Definitely will depend on what kind of fit you like in your boots - I prefer mine to be super tight
Do you think this is better than any other leather football boots? :) The review was really awesome.
This is top 2 in my opinion alongside the Morelia 2 MIJ
Please give us the one month review, I need to see if the price-durability is good if no, I’ll go with the Morelia 2
It is. As good if not better durability. He already did a one month on the black colourway of these.
I will mate
Antlers! Antlers! Antlers!
🦌
How long did they take to ship? I live on the east coast so i’m just hoping it won’t be a month shipping.
Usually 5-7 days
Is it correct that this brand doesn't cover all the sizes, only to 10 US?
I believe that's true, yes
What’s the weight of these in a us 9 in grams? Morelia II is approx 218g
Very similar, if not lighter
How do you think these boots will do in the rain? Also since im a US9 i should get a 8 in these right?
I think they'll be just fine! Yes, go 1 full size down
I bought these shoes after your great review. I usually use 42-42,5 regularly in eu which is size 9 in USA. I bought them in 8 as you recommended, but I am afraid that they will be too small since it’s say 40,5 in eu. Should have I bought a half size bigger?
Amazing mate! 🤝 I bought a full size down and they’re perfect 👍🏼
@@NoahCavanaugh cool man! really looking forward to using them:)
Please report back when you’ve got them on foot !
@@AbuSayad they felt pretty good bro, the only problem is the toe space on my right foot. I don’t know if I need to break them in or not, but I will keep you updated.
@@rehanelahi3488 toe space meaning too tight / too loose ?
These look super soft, but on ag surely they are not going to be durable ?
They're actually quite durable!
Hi Noah!
I wonder with one is more like speed boot? lighter? between this one and Horenso ?
Thank you 🙏
The Horenso is a TINY bit lighter, but it's all about which one fits your foot shape best! I prefer this one over the Horenso by a bit as well, just fits me better!
What's your opinion of the Yatagarashu vs Morelia DNA?
Both so good mate!
what weight do they have?
Not sure the exact weight mate, but they're pretty light for what they are!
How much do they weigh ?
Around the 7oz mark or lighter I believe
The leather on the yata seems to be shinier comparing to the horenso. Is that the case for you? Any effect on control? Thx
I wouldn't look too much into that mate, they're the same leather!
@@NoahCavanaugh Thanks. Wish they have a blue version as you mentioned. Can mismatch with the reds.
I was gonna order these in the same size 8 Us and they were out of stock 😢
Dang! Sorry to hear that mate!
Hey Noah, which do you prefer - the Horenzo or Yatagarashu?
Yatagarashu!
Great review Noah! Did you prefer this or the speedportal x99.1 leather ?
Both are fantastic! Very different though
Hi Noah, love your vids man! I wear currently Mizuno‘s size 10US/44Europe. Which size would you recommend me with the Adler‘s?
greetings from Switzerland
Probably a 9.5 or 9! 🤝
I wear a US 10 on puma ultras 4.1. Would you recommend for me to go a full size down or just a half size down? My foot is medium to wide. Not that wide but not narrow either.
It all depends how tight you like your boots mate. 1/2 size down if you don't want a super tight fit, 1 full size down if you prefer tighter fits.
@@NoahCavanaugh gotcha. I tried a pair of Morelia 2 MIJ 1/2 a size down and they fit just right. If I get the yatagarashu should I go 1/2 size down or a full size down in comparison to the Morelia 2 ? Mi question here is whether the yatagarashu expands more over time than the Morelia 2. Thanks, mate.
Are these better then the synthetic version
Totally depends on what you want mate! I prefer these for how soft they are, but the synthetic version is a bit more responsive overall
Speaking of leather boots, are you getting the 11Pro remakes in?
Doing my best!
do you prefer these or the morelia 2s?
Both are amazing! Probably these though 🤝
Hey Noah question I want to buy football boot but want best value for money, I have narrow feet btw should I go with crazyfast.1 mecurial vapor 15 pro or elite lmk pls
I'd go for the Vapor!
Is there a bladed version of these for nasty FG surfaces? I tend to slide with copa mundial type cone studs
Unfortunately not mate!
how come the sizing only goes up to 9 uk?
Not sure mate!
You should review the ASICS ds light xfly pro 2 or pro limited.
I'll do my best mate!
What do you think is better this or the horenso
These for my foot
Normal i wear 11 UK what size do you recommend for the Adler ?
10 or 10.5UK
What about your skechers razor is it durable and is there any separation or tear
Not at all mate
That extra insole seems interesting to me. Im 11us and 210lb, so cushioning is a requirement instead of an option. If they protect well I woukd go with them. Right now, I am contemplating acquiring a pair of Asics c3 if they get back in stock, because it's the best cushioning while still a very thin sole
Also consider the Asics DS Light AG (style code: 1103A077), if you need a little more traction than what the C3 provides while still offering extra cushioning. Has both Asics proprietary "FuzeGel" and a bit of EVA in the midsole. There's nothing else quite like it on the market.
@@CognizantCheddar thanks for the suggestion!! I don't know if they would allow it where I play, it is the 7-player field and here in Brazil only low studs are allowed. But it seems a great option that I didn't know
@@angelobartolomeu5679 Ah, 7 v 7 you can definitely just stick with the C3. Very highly rated TF boot. 🙂
Yatagarshu vs Morelia DNA?
That's super tough... might be the topic of a video 👀
Whats the price and how do you get them?
shop.adlerjapan.com/collections/frontpage
How much wider are they than the morelia 2?
About the same I'd say, the Morelia maybe feels a tiny bit wider but both will fit most people
@@NoahCavanaughI would love to buy them but I couldn’t fit comfortably in the Morelias, I have the NB 442 wide and I don’t believe there is anything wider but they are perfect.
Yatagarashu vs morelia Neo 4 ?
For my foot, the Yatagarashu!
any SG versions ?
Unfortunately not mate
Noah, will this become a game boot?
Maybe!
How can buy in USA?
On their website
I’m guessing the Skechers aren’t going well? Congrats on advancing to semis
Thank you mate! One month review to come soon
Are these wider than the Horensos?
Yes!
@@NoahCavanaugh is it significant? When I got the horensos they fit well 1.5 sizes down. However my pinkie toe is hanging over the sole plate. I’m hoping that won’t be an issue in these. One size down if perfect width wise but too long in the horensos.
Wow superb the Japanese lead boot quality in the world
Agreed! 🇯🇵
hows the fit? should i go size down?
Did you watch the video....?
Looks like solid pair of k-leather boots unfortunately including all import fees and shipping to EU I would have to pay ~240USD. Without import fees it would have been no brainer pick.
That still is cheap compared to mizuno Morelia 2’s or any well known brand football boot.
The quality of these boots are on par or better than the morelias or ASICS ds lights. Both I’ve bought from Japan.
Noah bough up a very very good point, which imo is very important. The other Adler boots he tried which didn’t have the carbatec just above the soleplate seems very unresponsive. This for me is the same feeling I have with morelias. They fit amazingly BUT they aren’t as responsive as I would like. I actually preferred the ASICS ds light or x-fly line for that sole reason.
These will really surprise you.
As I said for retail price 157USD + shipping these are fantastic, no doubt. But in my case when you add more than 50% extra in duty fees and shipping perspective changes a lot. Especially when you compare it to other available options.
For instance where I live you can get discounted Morelia Neo 3 Beta Elite MIJ for about 180USD or Premier 3 for about 95USD. Shipping and duty fees for Yatagarashu alone are almost as much as brand new Premier 3 (83USD vs 95USD). Moreover there are plenty of discounted sub 200USD top end silos from Adidas, Nike, Mizuno, Puma. Few days ago you could even get Nike Phantom GX Elite/Mercs 15 Elite for under 220USD. All of them with free shipping and return policy available.
I think I could justify 240USD for Adler only if I could try them on my feet beforehand or free shipping + return policy combo was available.
@@cnk191 I hear you. I live in the uk so I have to pay more tax due to brexit.
All I can say is I took the jump from speaking to people on forums regarding mizuno morelias. It was the best decision I could have made.
I play wing and cam. I would say if you are very explosive in your movements these alders, ASICS x-fly ds lights or ds lights will complement you.
My ASICS x-fly ds lights are still going strong after years.
If you don’t like then you will only lose a little bit from what you paid.
Sadly I’ve never been able to get discounted boots.
Again I get thinking. Maybe wait for Noah to give a month review. In the meantime just keep stacking your coins.
Good luck bud
@@soulstart89so how much tax were you stung for? I’m uk based as well
@@AbuSayad it’s wasn’t excessive. At the top of my head I can’t remember. What I didn’t like is the post office charges 17.5% on the delivery once the item lands in the uk. You have to pay that before they send the item to your house.
Sold out in 27s :(
Dang! I'm sorry to hear that mate
May I ask how wide your feet are? I'm a US10, nike boots that are 9.5us are so tight on me, idk how going a full size down US9 would work...
Also, you said you wouldn't use these for actual games... So what do you choose for actual games?
nike boots are generally more narrow. these adlers are much wider fitting and due to the lack of padding, it feels even wider or "longer". if you're afraid, then half a size down does the job for me
@@similingun7985 thanks. But would you say that your toes are over the sole material since you are using half a size down? Or is there still a vertical space in the toebox?
@@raphaeldeguzman7417 my feet are so wide that pretty much any boots I will have some of my feet spill over the boots. Even for my Morelia 2. For context my feet is literally off the charts wide so I can't answer u adequately. The only boot I have no issue with spilling over is the New Balance 442 V2 Pro 2E
I'm not sure the exact measurements are mate, I'll have to measure!