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NEW INSOMNIAS REACT TO MINX - Why Did You Come To My Home? & Love Shake MV
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- MINX WAS SO CUTE. We genuinely loved these MVs!
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Watching Minx always makes me appreciate JiU more. This cute concept clearly fits her personality so easily and naturally. Her ability to adapt to Dreamcatcher's concept is amazing.
Ikr
ooh. yes, your right 😲
Jiu is still living in the Minx era lmao
As well as the girls did w/ this concept, it was the darkest time in their career, unfortunately, especially after they disbanded. Dami tried to run away, Siyeon was depressed and considered giving up singing, and when DC debuted, she wore pants for years and would only wear shorts or dresses if it was a stage outfit the whole group was wearing. Sua said she’d never cut her hair again, and it took her years just to dye it again.
After they disbanded, they often cried themselves to sleep. I can’t imagine the amount of pressure Jiu must’ve felt at that time as their leader. That’s why it was so cathartic to see her reaction during their first win. They went through even more as DC, and are still pretty shunned by the K-pop industry, but they’re finally starting to reach big milestones this year like being invited to their first award show and performing at Primavera. They were the only K-pop act invited. They’re 300,000 album sales away from being the 2nd (if I’m not mistaken) million album seller from a small company. The first was GFriend.
Wait Dami tried to run away? Where did she say that? Im not doubting you but I'm curious
@@Why.Just_why I can't pinpoint it, but some Somnias who Minx stans mentioned that years ago in a comment section. The girls are so candid, so I'm sure it must be a deep cut in some old note or interview. Wish I could find it for myself though :/ Not sure if you've already seen it, but recently they performed Love Shake at their Broken Halloween concert, so it looks like they've finally gotten over their depression from that era.
Siyeon, Dami and Yoohyeon are the only ones who still cringe at the mention of Minx or any of those songs.
@@santoshsharma483Pretty sure SuA and Jiu still as well, they're just hiding it deep inside
I have a daughter their age ('97) and this is heartbreaking to me.
My favourite thing about this is they all look so different now apart from Jiu who literally hasn't aged a day.
I'm 100% convinced she's a vampire
(also Yoohyeon looks as cheeky as ever, maybe that's why I'm irritated: in Dreamcatcher her stage personality is really serious. But off stage she's a puppy. And in Minx she's just a puppy the whole time)
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@@moongirl8807 That's all seven of Dreamcatcher though.
@@TheGroovyJones I know what you mean but Yoohyeon has this clumsy savage energy. Like SuA will hit you and then ignore it but Yoohyeon will call you pabo and then hide from the consequences😂she's also the only one (well, besides Siyeon) who will burst out in laughter when she needs to be serious. Idk it's hard to explain. It just fits the maknae line energy but the other three (Handong Dami Gahyeon) are more bossy haha :D Yoohyeon just can't get away with being savage (mostly bc SuA will hit her)
@moongirl8807 JiU should be considered a anti-vampire: made of sunshine instead of being destroyed by it. She doesn't drain away the blood and life from victims, but absorbs love and cheers from insomnias, and gives back even more.
Yoohyeon and Dami were finishing school when WDYCTMH was released (Fall 2014). There is the cutest clip with the members going to her graduation (Google Dreamcatcher Yoohyeon graduation). Love Shake came out later in the
Summer of 2015.
Minx Dami was the cute maknae. This explains why Dreamcatcher Dami is different (not the maknae anymore). Gahyeon took that role in DC.
Fan fact: WDYCTMH was actually a big hit in Korea. However, nobody knew who sang it....
@FIGHFANNERD 9 yeah but not when she’s doing them😭
Through the Yoohyeon graduation video, the Church of Siyeon was born. :D
@@Friedensp4nzer "Church of Siyeon, follow Me!" 🐺⛪📿🤲 (Founded 2015).
@@Friedensp4nzer from Church of Siyeon to being her wifey
I once saw someone comment how funny it was that Dreamcatcher's current concept is dark/nightmares, and this is their dark past lol
Imagine the effort of trying to jump through every hoop necessary in order to insert Minx into the prequel album...lol
The thing is, Minx wasn't even bad quality-wise. Whenever I see reactions, everyone vibes with the songs although they didn't expect it. Happyface has a good eye for talent and they know it. After their failure, the CEO said that it wasn't the member's fault and that he would buy them a café or work at a farm (don't know which one is true or if both are true, I heard both) to provide for them.
So as much as this hasn't worked out and we try to be respectful towards the members, I really trust Happyface. They made some unusual decisions for an entertainment company. Redebuting them was so savage, maybe they were just really desperate. But I 100% respect this choice (even if Dreamcatcher wasn't successful their debut is just so bold).
Love Shake is a remake of their sister group Dalshabet 's song. The rash guards (scuba) were actually the CEO's idea and I think they're the most cute and unique outfits to ever exist in kpop. Another confession, Love Shake is definitely in my playlist😳They have at least 10 other songs in their discography that are almost unknown so check that out. You should watch a stage for WDYCTMH too bc Siyeon is hitting that whistle note live every time...
Oh btw SuA HATES that hair, it's her personal nemesis. She never cut and dyed her hair ever since (to this extreme, she had red ish and pink ish and blonde ish for Maison).
If you want to get some more insights, I'm sure someone already recommended "Dodging disbandment and other extreme sports" by Mera. Also insomnicsy has at least one video highlighting their relationship with their staff, they're all a big family.
@FIGHFANNERD 9 yeah it's great. I'm still hoping for a new rock version from Dreamcatcher. Maybe on their 10th anniversary or something😂let's see how far we make it lol
For a little bit of background on Happyface I highly suggest watching the following video which shows parts of the selection process for MIXNINE.
It shows how they care, how hard it was for them to watch the selection process and you get a glimpse how different must be compared to at least one other major company (in this case YG). It focuses on the male trainees so there is almost nothing from Dreamcatcher members in this video but we see the well known practice room. 😉
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@@j.w.u.5728 oh this sounds interesting, thank you. I'm actually so curious how a new group is formed and how everything works behind the scenes. I think the very simple reason why Minx ultimately failed was bc of the small company (and ok, HF didn't promote the perfectly too but still). If you see rookie groups nowadays and compare which company their from, the ones from the big 4 are so much more successful it's ridiculous.
I also heard rumors that HF is building or training a new gg so let's just hope they don't repeat their mistakes. But then again they'll probably also need years of hard work to be recognised bc they're from a small company. Or maybe we'll get Dreamcatcher 2.0 with a re-debut after 2 years😂
Lee Juwon said he'd start a _cucumber company_ for them if Dreamcatcher didn't make it... I have no idea where he got the idea for cucumbers from, but let's face it, they're _all_ an odd bunch over there... 😜
Regarding SuA's hair, she _has_ dyed it quite a few times, but for the most part it's always been fairly subtle, like dark reds or purples. She did go almost blonde for Deja Vu, though, so Maison wasn't _quite_ the first time. She does have to be careful, though, because she seems to have particularly fragile hair, so she can't really bleach it too often anyway.
The closest she's come to cutting it that short again was when she adopted a Hime cut (short at the front, long at the back) when she did the Tadow performance video, to match Seungyeon's. Seungyeon was so impressed, she suggested SuA should try cutting it as short as the front all over; SuA shot that idea down _immediately_ 😂
@@Brickerbrack yeah the comment is so long already I didn't want to write any more detail. I don't even know if they saw it, but you're right. I just think that it was a cucumber farm is a funny detail.
SuA actually looks best in brown and "boring" hair cuts I think but I'm glad we got the pink for Maison, I really liked that. Maybe next cb we get something really crazy haha. Yes the Tadow video she looked great, she had this kpop hair style right? The one with the very extreme layers (aka short in the front very long in the back) EDIT I mean Hime cut, exactly that sorry😂. I've only seen it in kpop so far but this might actually be my favourite. Hm I'm contradicting myself here a lot but maybe she just looks great in everything😄
The CEO of Happyface admitted later on that the group failed because the company did not promote or support them properly. There was no album with their debut, the comeback with Love Shake was delayed, and the song itself was a cover of a song originally done by Dalshabet, Happyface's 2ng gen girl group. I think that if Minx had been with one of the big Kpop companies then they would be like Twice is today, but then we wouldn't have Dreamcatcher.
Sua's hair. After Minx Sua swore she would never cut her hair again and she hasn't. She hated it.
At some point you are also going to get to see the CEO of their company, CEO-nim. He's really like an uncle to the girls, and his wife is the president of the company, so it's really like a family. There were two interesting quotes from him about Minx. In the first one, he said that the failure of Minx wasn't the girls's fault, it was the company's fault. When have you ever heard a CEO say something like that? And in the second, he said if Dreamcatcher would fail as well, he would become a cucumber farmer to support the girls.
Dreamcatcher is what the girls really wanted to do. I think you can feel that, and it is only right that this brought success for them. Even the first single already sold double of what Minx sold.
It was a cucumber company. 😉
Unless he also suggested potatoes at some point, but cucumbers is definitely the well-known one.
@@Brickerbrack You are absolutely right, edited.
Minx's fail was mostly because they were at the end of the 'cutesy' era and were pretty much against groups like Red Velvet, Twice, Mamamoo, Girls Generation. Minx didn't stick out from the pack with their songs and MVs. Their songs are good but in comparison to other groups who had a newer appeal, they got overshadowed.
Yup.. As Mera explained in her "dodging disbandment and other extreme sport" video, it's a red ocean at that time for Minx
Haha, it's always good to see baby Somnies witness the cuteness shock that is Minx sunbaenim. Also, cute part about this is that Dami was the maknae in Minx which explains a lot
Fun fact: Love Shake remains one of their best known songs in Korea since it's used a lot in Home Shopping Channels. The thing is the song is well known but the group isn't bc it sounds and looks too much like most of the stuff that was coming out at the time. There's also the problem that Happyface Ent is a small company that is genius at content and concept creation but not as good at marketing (and managing). Whatever the reason we can all agree that the switch to Dreamcatcher was amazing and while it was hard for some of them (Jiu + Yoo) it was the best for others (Sy + Dami)
I'm happy you're planning to check Dodging Disbandment, usually people stan even harder after watching that
InSomnia hold A LOT of affection for Minx. And we love it when Handong and Gahyeon will troll the rest by starting to do the Love Shake choreo. I think even the first five have now reconciled themselves to that past and embraced the era.
Minx got a shout out in the good Kdrama Idol: the Coup last year where the group was mentioned as being the one that was plagiarized from by the first producer of the central idol group in the series. Someone in the writer's room was an InSomnia, or, at least, in the know.
(Anyone can correct me if I’m wrong)
When they debuted Jiu and sua were 20
Siyeon was 19
Yoohyeon and Dami were 17 (Dami used to be the maknae)
You are not wrong. That is my cringe for the Love Shake MV. The song is fine.. it’s the MV I cringe and can understand Siyeon and Dami’s discomfort.
Pretty sure you have all of that correct. :)
Siyeon was 18 (and 11.5 months) in international age.
@@TheGroovyJones Oh, that's right. JiU made it a real bonding experience for the group when Siyeon's birthday rolled around...
Dreamcatcher repeated it: Gahyeon turned 18 three weeks after debut. In other calendar shenanigans, Minx debuted September 18, 2014 and on September 18, 2019 Dreamcatcher released Deja Vu.
We actually consider Dreamcatcher 3rd gen (some people say gen 3.5) just due to the fact that they came out in January of 2017 (practically 2016) and the majority of the early 4th gen groups debuted in 2018. Minx is generally considered 3rd gen.
I don't even know why people still have doubts, they are from the 3rd gen, the 4th gen started in late 2017, while Dreamcatcher debuted in early 2017, I don't even know why there are people who still doubt it and gives incorrect information, so you are right to say 3rd gen, there is no such thing as gen 3.5
Plus their actual music is 100% 3rd gen in substance and style, at least as much as you can compare them to other groups. They are miles closer to Red Velvet or Mamamoo than Aespa or Nmixx.
@@insomniadongie5538 yeah when I first got into kpop I was so confused with Dreamcatcher but it's so easy. They're sitting comfortably in the 3rd gen there's no doubt. But I feel like Minx didn't really fit that and sounded more like 2nd gen. But even that is a stretch. Although again, I was confused for some reason. Ah and I did find an article yesterday, you can divide the gens more into 2.5, 3.5 etc. Maybe it's unusual but I actually like it.
but they become famous during 4th gen era. i can't really see them the same gen as bts. using ' when they become famous ' is more accurate than debut dates imo. nobody thinks of doja cat the same generation as lady Gaga despite Doja Cat debuting in 2013, in fact they think of her as 2020 artists alongside lil Nas x.
similarly, people will think of Loona alongside Dreamcatcher, no one thinks of EXID or GOT7 alongside Dreamcatcher. dreamcatcher also became famous the exact same time Loona , G-idle became famous.
Brave Girls is kinda anomaly but they became famous using a song from 2016, which is why I still put them in 3rd gen. but dreamcatcher's most famous song was 2020's Boca, which is when the era of 4th gen is making it's mark. Boca also sounded like 4th gen.
i don't like using Minx to determine what gen dreamcatcher is because tht would leave handong and gahyeon out.
@@TheGroovyJones using tht logic loona and stray kids is also 3rd gen because their debut songs sound pretty 3rd gen.
Fub fact: My friends from Korea(they didn't know DC before I talk about them to them btw lol) they told me that love shake is more popular than DC or Minx themselves 😂 its like that random song everyone can automatically sing with its like a radio and mall music and majority doesn't even know it is them they just know the song😂
You know what, if the song is played often, go get that well deserved bag, DCC
My poor Siyeon has a big trauma due to MINX disband, she struggled with depression at that time and used to spend hours playing LOL with Yooh to get distracted. She's really triggered when MINX is mentioned or their songs play
" when it's Fate ,
there are no coincidences " .
They are the Legendary Dreamcatcher
You guys NEED to see Gahyeon & Handong dancing to minx and the other members just cringing about it XD
Minx came out during the powerhouses of Twice and Gfriend debuts which basically faded Minx away, so it was a struggle for them to stay a float. If you watch their "dodging disbandment" video by a youtube channel named "Mera" she basically put together a nice background story of Dreamcatcher's past and up to "Raid of Dreams" era. I would love to see you guys react to that. Also i love you guy's intros, i be jamming everytime i watch your reactions lol
On the day of Minx debut (2014) Jiu was 20, Sua & Siyeon 19 and Dami & Yoohyeon barely 17
I never had so much fun seeing a minx reaction like today hahahahaha, their reactions were the same as mine when I discovered them
yall asked the ages and i havent finished the video yet but dami and yoohyeon were both minors as far as i know, which is a big reason why dami mostly is usually not happy with minx being brought up, also siyeon since she has some trauma from this time, most have which is why the company banned any questions really related to minx
I honestly don’t know why they weren’t that popular back then their songs were so good! I was also shocked when I first saw Minx 😲
Because their company was even tinier back then and also didn't promote well, that's actually the whole reason. Also tough competition, we had Gfriend debut, Red Velvet and Twice at that time with too similar concepts and rising success.
Minx was the typical cutesy, bubble gum pop, which many groups were already into. The reason why Minx failed is because they were up against some bigger girl groups like Red Velvet, Twice, Mamamoo, GFriend, among others.
During Minx era, most were very young, and Dami was the maknae. The girls were pretty uncomfortable with the concept as a whole, especially Siyeon, Dami and SuA.
When HappyFace Entertainment decided to pull the plug on Minx, the most affected by the disbandment were Siyeon, Dami and Yoohyeon. Siyeon's mental health was so badly affected that she did not leave her room for weeks and even didn't even wish to do music. She and Yoohyeon would often spend hours at gaming cafés. SuA hated her Minx look badly too with the short, blonde hair and skimpy outfits. It hit them so hard that Siyeon and Dami used to have flashbacks whenever there was mention of Minx.
The girls that you see now as Dreamcatcher are more truer to their respective personalities and preferences.
The company also gives a lot of freedom and instills faith in the girls, which reflects in their music and life as idols. Also the girls are mature and sensible, having lived with and /or known each other for years.
😂🤣 Handong and Gahyeon was still a trainees at this moment. and Dami?...well, she was still the main rapper, but the cute maknae of MINXX. and SuA was originally play the role of lead rapper, 'til the "Nightmare" era, before she passes it to Gahyeon. and honestly speaking, i'm glad that MINXX didn't make it to go far beyond. why? because they were soppused to be the replacement of their senior "DAL*SHABET", who has this slight sexy concept. if MINXX went through, the dark rock metal DREAMCATCHER would never excess, in fact you will see the sexy concept of MINXX, nowadays.
Minx debuted in a very similar market to today and they just got lost among groups with more unique concepts or from larger companies. They were on par vocally with Red Velvet and Mamamoo, who also debuted in 2014, but their concept was everywhere and tbh there were still 2nd gen artists who were slaying as well as early 3rd gen artists. I actually really love watching Minx content and if you have the time check out some stage mixes for Why Did You Come To My Home? and Love Shake or some Minx busking(singing outdoors) videos.
History becomes ,
a Legend ,
That becomes ,
a Myth ,
that becomes ,
a story .
They are Dreamcatcher for all Time
They are Dreamcatcher for all Time ,
they are :
the History ,
the Legend ,
the Myth ,
and the Story .
Remember Their : Flame 🔥 , Magic ✨ , Power ⚡ and Beauty 🌹 ,
Kess and Han...Minx didn't "fail", there was just too much heavy hitting competition at the time of their debut. With the cute girl concept genre saturated and dominated by power groups like Girls Day, AOA, APINK, FX, 4 Minute, Red Velvet, Sistar, T-ara, Black Pink, Twice and Girls Generation, the move to revamp Minx into Dream Catcher was ultimately wise. We Insomnias all benefited!
WDYCTMH is a whole ass bop and I will not be convinced otherwise. If you watch their vlives and other behind the scenes stuff Gahyeon and Handong troll the Minx members a lot with Love Shake. They were recently dancing to it in the latest Dreamcatcher Note so I think they’re over it now. JiU definitely is the fan club president for Minx sunbaenim though 😂
Minx was part of their concept for Dreamcatcher in that Minx was their dream and that they went into (of course they didn't plan that). Their nightmare was being trapped in those cutie concept Kpop genre and that they were trying to break & escape from it as Dreamcatcher and free themselves from such stereotype eventually. We have to give credit to their company however as rebranding a KPop group rarely happen and I've seen a lot of talented groups disbanded early such as the amazing group Hot Issue recently.
Girl Groups and Boy Groups Rise and Fall,
Fandoms begin and End.
The 7 Legendary Dreamcatcher are bonded Through Destiny For All Time.
InSomnia never Sleep on Dreamcatcher talent..
YES I loved this reaction ! Y'all should react to a stage mix of both of these songs, they kinda slay.
My Heart still is yearning for the kpop group MINX ,
But by Soul is for Dreamcatcher always
Jiu is a vampire...she hasn't aged a day
I feel like all Insomnias felt this way the first time they saw MINX 🤣✨
Honestly, they changed concepts because it was the end of the cutesy era and they were being overshadowed by the more popular groups- however, when MINX comes up, half the members admit to this day they were absolutely miserable and hated MINX's music and concepts. I think Siyeon is always the loudest to talk about her MINX misery, and YooBin silently protests anything MINX when faced with it. Yoohyeon was also miserable and seems to silently protest like YooBin does, only with less animosity. Minji and Bora still have the same energy tbh, they are also the most open to MINX stuff when faced with it, they dont get mad or protest like the others, and lots of times they even make joke references (only to be ignored by other members when they do).
이 분들 드림캐쳐 찐 팬들인데
밍스캐쳐 영상에 입틀막을 ㅋㅋㅠ
전 밍스때부터 좋아했던 팬이에요
이 때는 인기가 많이 없었고 그 끝에 해체라는 아픔을 겪었던 시절이라서
보면서 마냥 웃을 수만은 없더라고요
우리 드림캐쳐 많이 많이 사랑해주세요❤
자동자막 없는 게 알것 같아서 웃프네요 ㅠㅎ
The thing is technically Minx didn’t flop. In fact WDYCTMH was quite popular. The issue was that they debuted during a time when this sound and concept were HEAVILY saturating the market. Unfortunately they got overshadowed by other groups from companies who were better known and had the funds to promote them properly.
If you watch a video on YT about how difficult it was for DC and especially Minx you would get to know why the group failed at the time. Apologies, but I cannot remember the details for the video. Basically the group's coming out at the same time were stronger and the competition was so fierce that Minx didn't stand a chance. They did reasonably okay, but not enough. One thing is they had the talent from the start.
Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher
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There is nothing to dive deep into actually. Minx songs were too "generic" and followed mainstream kpop at that time + group was from small company so they simply can't compete against bigger groups. Love Shake was not even their own song.
@@bigparadox9093 well yeah that's the reason for Minx but the video explains it really well and is also not completely about Minx. It just gives a good understanding of why its so great to see Dreamcatcher getting more popular. Because it wasn't given from the start.
@@moongirl8807 you don't need a video to understand that it's heavy for a group with unusual sound and from small company to stay alive in kpop industry. It's pretty obvious
Minx's b-sides also slap.
"I just like you" is one of their best ballads surpassing some of DC ballads imo. Strongly recommend reacting/listening to them considering there are only like 3-4 of them.
Superstar Superman and Shut Up are such car bops! And Action (never released but there's a performance video on youtube) is also a lot of fun! And has elements of dc in it, so that's cool, too
Shout out to Happy Face ( Dreamcatcher Company) for not dropping the girls and leading them to become the most unique Kpop group out there.
#DreamcatcherSupremacy
I love you guys! Your reaction was so much fun to watch. Thank you for keep watching Dreamcatcher videos but this is the entertainment I crave!
Recently Dami joined in the fooling around while singing love shake. Siyeon still doesn't like it though, she'll usually step away or just ignore people when they are singing the songs. It's not a good period for them, the failure weighed on them. JiU started questioning her ability as a leader, Dami and Yoohyeon were underage with the video being uncomfortably sexual and Siyeon stopped listening to music entirely post hiatus. She still has a visceral reaction to it being mentioned. Particularly love shake but she'll tolerate her members joking about it and even likes some of their bsides. When the girls did a reddit ama last year they had to ban any questions relating to minx.
I honestly don’t know why they weren’t that popular back then their songs were so good!
Been waiting for this and the Dodging Disbandment reaction. Love your reactions, keep up the great work.
2022 Kess and Han: "Why does this concept really fit SuA though?"
2024 Me: So uh.. How are you guys liking SuA's choreography's?
Love shake is a song I have to be in the mood for to listen to it, but why did you come to my home is a whole bop and honestly I’m not keen on rewatching the two mvs due to the amount of shots focused on their legs and their butts. It actually made me feel a bit uncomfortable due to I think Dami still being underage at the time
And Yoohyeon, but in Love Shake they were both Barely Legal by a few months so it's 100% better and okay.
@@TheGroovyJones what? No I still don't wanna look at their butts wtf
As a new somnia its definitely a ‘culture shock’ from Minx to Dreamcatcher as we know them now lol I’m glad you checked them out!
That aside, you can see the talent and potential was there, but the industry was too congested with this concept. Let me tell you, the VOCALS were always there from the start - if you check out some of their covers, my fave being Minx covering “End of Time” - Beyoncé - its so good!
They brought this back for their Halloween shows!
나도 최근에 입덕했는데, 역시나 이것도 보셨군요. 나도 쇼킹 그 자체....눈물을 흘릴 수 밖에 없는 청순함 그 자체....
Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher ua-cam.com/video/YIgCAp3i1os/v-deo.html 🙏
This just unlocked a memory. How did I forget about minx’s music? It’s so nostalgic :’)
Yes!!! Your reaction to MINX is so great! I love seeing people who get into Dreamcatcher when they realize this is how they started. You're right, they are so talented that they can flip their concept on a dime and absolutely kill it. Also, shout out to Happyface/Dreamcatcher Entertainment for not doing what most agencies would have and force them to go more adult and scandalous just for the views and quick cash grab. They really believed in their talent and the darker rock sound was the cold water splash in the face that fans needed to wake up and realize what they had been sleeping on.
FYI, "Love Shake" was originally a b-side for their older sister group Dalshabet.
What sends me is the fact that after Gahyeon and Handong were added to the group, they both learned the Love Shake choreo just so they could troll the ex-Minx members with it whenever they wanted 🤣
Sua with short Hair , just does something to my Heart 🔥❤,
can't be explained .
There's a video "Dreamcatcher Dodging Disbandment". It'll give you a brief timeline of dreamcatcher :)
Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher
explains a lot about the minx era. oversaturation.
Yes they should watch this video. They would understand why minx didn't make it.
Minx shows how great these ladies actually are. There IS NOT another group who could pull off a complete change in concepts anywhere near as well.
Loona
the girls were super sexualized & this was a very depressing/traumatic time for siyeon, the songs are bops tho
Agree. Dami and Siyeon were definitely not comfortable with the clothing choices in the Love Shake MV specifically. Here feelings during Minx and the brief “disbandment” definitely inspired Paradise and her neck tattoo. And probably her shoulder tattoo.
Even if you don't include their MINX era, Dreamcatcher is mostly considered to be a Third Generation idol group (with groups like TWICE, Mamamoo, GFriend, Blackpink).
Around that time, a whole of lot of girl groups either debuted or dropped "bigger" songs than the two. It was difficult for them to really stand out and get attention. But in a way, their fall as MINX was a blessing in disguise because it result in Dreamcatcher being born.
This video does a great job in covering the group's history especially the MINX days. "Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher" by mera ua-cam.com/video/YIgCAp3i1os/v-deo.html
It stops at the 2020 mark so it's not up to date but I think it's still a good video that manages to get the group's time up until then across very well.
There have been moments where the original five members cringe whenever anything MINX-related is brought up. Handong and Gahyeon do enjoy it as there's a video of both dancing to Love Shake. Buuuutttt, it seems nowadays the five are more "accepting" of their dark past as there's a recent vlog of them singing "Love Shake" for fun cause Dami started playing it on her phone.
Technically, Dreamcatcher did sorta went back to the summer cute aesthetic last year when they did the photoshoot for their mini-album, "Summer Holiday"; the album BEcause is on. In a behind the scenes video, Dami commented that she hasn't smiled in a photoshoot in a long time which is probably a reference to her MINX days
they'll be 4th gen category if they debut on 2018 instead of 2017
Years ago an Insomnia wrote that they loved Love Shake because it was the closest we get to a Dreamcatcher Bikini Special.
Jiu is Minx fanclub president causes she has always kept a poster of Minx on her wall though.
my favorite song love shake😊😅
It's not that the songs are bad, but I think that the market for this was oversaturated at the and they had some bad luck on timing. I still think of Dreamcatcher as a 'new' group but it's wild to think that they are really of the same vintage as (or actually slightly older than) Lovelyz (recently disbanded), Oh My Girl (just lost a member at contract renewal time), GFRIEND (recently and suddenly disbanded), April (recently disbanded) TWICE, Red Velvet, etc. Not to mention the juggernaut that was (and still is) BTS. Dreamcatcher's CEO said "it wasn't the girls who failed. We failed them." They believed in the girls and decided that instead of disbanding or just putting along in an overcrowded market, that they would try a radical approach. It is surprising how many groups fail or stay well well well below the radar. I think Minx could have continued, but I don't know if they would have broken out and we likely would have lost them to disbandment. Even some of the great groups from that era met surprising and sudden ends (RIP my beloved GFRIEND).
MINX: exists
Dami's eyes: HELP ME
A Dreamcatcher can become a kpop idol ,
but ,
A kpop idol can not become a Dreamcatcher .
when it's Fate,
there are no coincidences.
They are Dreamcatcher .
Remember Their : Flame 🔥, Magic ✨ , Power ⚡ and Beauty 🌹
Minx has really good voices. I mean Siyeon with those effortless whistle tone like what? That's so cool kfjhaskjf. Why it failed is... there is a REALLY good reason. Please search for Dreamcatcher dodging disbandment because it gives a pretty good history about what happened back then.
I saw DC last Summer, and will be seeing them next month in Oakland; Just wanted to let you know that YES, they play these 2 songs as DC, and it’s hilarious! They seem a little embarrassed by his much we Insomnias love them, but they laugh throughout, and love it.
Ah, the Minx pilgrimage. Every InSomnia has to watch these two MVs at least once to get the culture shock.
As much as the girls (mostly Siyeon) don't like to acknowledge Minx for the most part, I think it was formative for them on how to survive in the industry. Siyeon's solo song Paradise basically is her feelings about Minx and its failure.
It was just market oversaturation at that point. When your competition at their debut are Red Velvet, Gfriend and Mamamoo, you're kinda screwed. The market was saturated and there was nowhere for Minx to go. Dreamcatcher, on the other hand...
All the ex-Minx members really don't like remembering these times. Probably bc the concept didn't suit them and it didn't really take off. But both Handong and Gahyeon really enjoy the songs and tease them about that era a lot. We joke a lot about Siyeon having war flashbacks whenever Minx is mentionned, so we try not to tease them too much as fans to not cause them any discomfort.
But to be honest, I have discovered Love Shake after stanning them and I unironically enjoy the song. It reminds me of older kpop songs, and the song is good. I think most of the fandom looks at Minx the way you'd look at a old drawing you made as a child : it's not as good as your drawing skills as an adult, but there's something endearing about it.
I was not ready for that !!
Thanks you guys for standing Minx, er.. I mean DC :)
i would die of laughter if in the middle of a dreamcatcher concert they would just do Love shake again it would be so damn good 😂😂😂🤣
They will never do that
@@JC-hg4oc i know but it would be funny lol
@@JC-hg4oc we were both wrong they did love shake at a concert i predicted this 2 months prior omg im speechless
Sua totally hates her hair in minx 🤣 She has mentioned multiple times that she wil never do short hair anymore hahahaha
Also, Minx's songs are BOP! But even I never run into their songs when I was active back then. That's probably because there were SO many major releases back then especially debuts by red velvet, gfried, twice, etc. Like I kinda knew they existed but never really heard their songs. Also variety shows were a big thing back then too but they never really get invited. A little bit regretful but thankfully I managed to discover Dreamcatcher when they debuted so I'm glad.
Dodging Disbandment by Mera is not updated for 2020 onwards but it definitely gives you an insight to their early days and the tea that happened, so enjoy!
If i remember correctly, dami was so happy to pass the maknae mantle over to gahyeon :)
Haha watching this again.. remind me of my 1st time watch this ..I'm laughing like crazy haha
Been an Insomnia for over a year and this video is the only time I've ever watched the entirety of both MVs Lol
Minx are from one of the Multiverse of Madness. You know they were depressed everytime Minx is mentioned, i think the only way they can overcome it is to record a metal version of this song. I would do anything to listen to Siyeon's full blown nuclear assault vocals on that.
Ironically these were the "dark" histories of DC. Glad they made the switch.
watching Love Shake just make me smile all day long😍
This is the reaction I wanted, 😂
Oh I’ve been waiting for this one 💀
Your reaction is so refreshing! For a long time there was a segment of the fandom that were outraged at the Minx concept. The 'how dare they make them look cute and have booty shots it's so demeaning to women!' You know who I'm talking about. The truth is they were very good at being Minx. It's true that it wasn't the type of music that Siyeon and Dami wanted to do, but Jiu, Yoohyeon, and Sua were perfectly happy with it to the point that Jiu said it took her a long time to get used to not smiling on stage as Dreamcatcher. They were all devastated by the failure because they worked so hard as Minx. If you dig deeper you'll find the kind of hell that new Kpop groups go through. They were everywhere in Seoul performing wherever anyone would give them space. Race tracks, sports stadiums, shopping malls, small sleazy music halls, outdoor public spaces along the Han River. There is a Minx YT channel ua-cam.com/users/OfficialMinxfeatured Anyone who loves Siyeon has to see her when she'd just turned 19. Panda Siyeon ua-cam.com/video/L_gh0Ee7nW8/v-deo.html
There has still been some busking as DreamCatcher, though, so it is not all about Minx having done that.
Sera Ryu was at one point the leader of the K-Pop group Nine Muses. She has her own YT channel and in one of her videos, Sera got to interview DC right before they went to do some busking (either at a Train Station or Bus Station or maybe it was a Shopping Mall...). Sera got all dressed up including hair and makeup by her favorite stylist for this interview, she LOVED the girls before meeting them and Dami is Sera's bias! That entire video was FUN! :)
I tried clicking on this first link and it asks if I want to leave YT. Where does it go if it says UA-cam in the link itself? WOW!
@@jamescurfman3284 the internet is a magical place right
I've heard this a lot now. Just out of curiosity where did JiU said that? I'm confused on their opinions bc every member had something they hated about Minx and obviously they don't wanna go back so it's hard to find good sources on their "true" feelings about just the cute concept. It's obvious that Siyeon and Dami hate it but I've always wondered what the others thought.
@@jamescurfman3284 SeraRyu also reacted to her own groups MVs and talks about them and it's...complicated to watch. There is a reason there is a documentary about 9 Muses.
i believe 2014 would be the start of 3rd Gen. Part of the reason Minx didn't succeed was the competition the were up against. Mamamoo, Red Velvet, Lovelyz and LABOOM all debuted this year. not to mention 2NE1 released one of their highest charting albums in "Crush".
Then in 2015 Red Velvet gets their fifth and final member in Yeri. CLC, Gfriend, Oh My Girl and Twice debuted. Amber (f(x)), Mina (Girls Day), Taeyeon (Girls Generation) and Sera Ryu (9 Muses)(disclaimer, I'm a big Sera Ryu fan and one of a very few I support on patreon😘Love ya Sera) all made their solo debuts this year also.
As you can see Minx had some VERY tough competition, especially in the cutsie/bubble gum pop genre.
Mera's "Dodging Disbandment and other Extreme Sports" touches on this and other hardships the girls went through and how they overcame them, even after they re-debuted as Dreamcatcher.
cheers
EDIT: Sera Ryu is the unofficial/official InSomnia president😇
JiU was 20 and 21 respectively.
SuA was also 20 and 21. SuA has said she would never go back to that bob cut LOL.
Siyeon was 19 and 20 (this era is also the reason Siyeon hates short shorts).
Yooyeon was 17 and 18.
Dami was also 17 and 18.
There's one more video, Dal Shabet/MINX collab, Rockin" Around The Christmas Tree.
And Action! Performed in a shopping area or something, I believe?
Oh no! You found out about Dreamcatcher's "Dark Past", LOL
They do so well in both concepts, but I always asked in which Era they were the happiest.
I love dreamcatcher and gahyeon is my ultimate bias so I’m very happy for her to be in the group, but I love these minx songs so much. So catchy and fun and cute
Love Shake reaaaally sounds like a music straight out of the anime called Pitchi pitchi pitch istg
Sua hated that short hair hahahahah
Late Gen 2 , Early Gen 3 , In and around Girls Generation and MAMAMOO, begin of TWICE !
if you consider that Dami was the original maknae around 17 at this time, it makes a bit of sense. she just grew out of it.
If i remember correctly, the only person who didn't like the Minx concept was Siyeon. She always liked rock.
JiU had a hard time coming to terms with the rock concept.
The major trauma over minx was almost being disbanded.
The interesting thing is JiU said she never wanted to do cute stuff again. But in another video she said she wanted lighter concepts. While this isn't the same and I totally get it from a leader standpoint that she's traumatised by Minx, I can really see her in a cute concept girl group. Sorry this sounds confusing but I just remember her saying different things. She did really well in the cute concept and maybe she had a hard time with rock, but at the same time she stated somewhere that she and Siyeon like Babymetal. I'm just confused but maybe this is just my brain mashing two years of DC content together😭I would just really want to know her opinion on this
@@moongirl8807 my feeling is Jiu does like cute concepts, she wants to collab with every girl group. Plus she’s not shy or embarrassed when Minx gets brought up. It’s more Siyeon and Dami who get uncomfortable when it gets brought up
@@moongirl8807 just coming back to this because when JiU was given the choice to write her own solo songs she chose ‘Cherry’
@@p0rnany0ne yeah I totally get you and I'm even more confused by my own comment because while it makes sense, I also think JiU really loves the cute stuff. Now that they did a part of Love Shake on weekly idol I saw it again. I think what I wanted to express a few months ago was that I really think no one of them really hated Minx for the cute concept. Each of them had a personal reason: Dami was maknae and oversexualized, JiU was leader and had to hold them together in this awful time, SuA had the hair she hated and Siyeon thought her dream of becoming a singer was crushed. Just for Yoohyeon I don't know what she didn't like, probably those baseball caps she had to wear all the time😂at least we know how Handong and Gahyeon think of Minx lol
Try to do a Dreamcatcher Marathon ,
it has turned into a Endless Journey of Legendary Music
Time will Pass ,
But they will Remain ,
They will Keep Rising ,
their Greatness will be known all around the World
undead vampire jiu.... she looks the same in this video as in all the later DC videos.... :)
If you wanna see a bit more of their time as Minx I recommend checking out some of their life stages, they were as good then as they are now!
They also have a fun little christmas song with their sister group dal*shabet, its easy to find if you crave some more Minx!
Keep up the awesome reactions ❤
Yes please watch the dodging disbandment next it will explain a lot. I have been with the girls since minx debuted and will never leave.
I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Dodging Disbandment, it's a video that made me really appreciate how hard working Dreamcatcher have been over the years, always makes me emotional when watching reactions to that video. ♥
Also, I suggest watching Insomnicsy's video on Dreamcather Vs Minx. Since the girls are now fine with it, it's actually a lot of fun. And Handong is definitely their biggest fan and the VitaMinx President For Life. Watch: ua-cam.com/video/sPWCWjKmx3A/v-deo.html