In my opinion, turf shoes are just as good as AG when playing in artificial grass. It's when it rains or the field is wet when you should change to AG... Those Jomas are nice!
Love jomas. I also use them in summer when fg gets rock hard & studs don’t help, or as backup when breaking in new boots. Very comfortable but the outsole rubber can’t be worn as shoes, too soft & wears easy on pavement. Joma indoor/sala also nice on turf for extra control if you don’t need to do lots of cuts/turns.
it mostly depends on what you've been used to. as a kid I've only ever used football boots / cleats. so when I tried the turf shoes which are like sneakers, it's a totally different (negative) feeling.
Currently nursing a nasty knee injury from artificial grass. The team conversation after was that maybe turf boots are the safest option as any version of boot with studs risks getting caught in the artificial grass and "locked" in place. For clarity, my injury came from a 50/50 tackle. We both got to the ball at the same time. I planted my left foot and the studs locked into the artificial grass. During the tackle, my whole body got turned, but everything below the knee was locked in place. On real grass, the grass would have torn and the mud would have slipped/broken up and allowed the foot to turn with the rest of the body, so there may still have been some stress on the knee, but it most likely wouldn't have dislocated. I think safety should be one of the factors taken into consideration when purchasing or recommending boots. And from my experience, any boot with a stud increases the risk of injury in certain scenarios. So, for me, the loss in grip from turf boots is far less significant than the increase in safety. But this is just from what I'm told (and it makes sense), so when I have recovered, I will be trying out some turf boots for myself.
It depends. - If it's a worn out AG pitch with mashed down 'grass' but still has plenty of rubber fill poured into it, the loose pellets will make you slip in TF boots. - If the field is wet, you will probably slip on AG with TF boots. - Not all TF boots are created equal with regard to traction. Some grip better than others.
Yeah, spot on. The turf shoes are great for Turf fields that relatively flat. They can still clunk up those plastic pellets though especially on turf fields that don't regularly filter them out weekly. Although on the set seasons where you start getting rain on the pitch. They do tend to slip at times, that is where perhaps a FG or AG come in handy.
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I think the most important point of wearing turf shoes in AG is that you reduce the risk of injury. Especially knee ones, because they don't stick your foot to the ground when turning. It's why I use them. However the "turf" shoes that I use are the Adidas Mundial Team, which have long rubber studs. They give me the perfect traction with the length, but not too rigid as the usual AG plastic studs.
one of the main difference where tf shoes are concerned vs sg fg ag and mg options is the presence of a normal midsole. so if the surface you are playing on is harder and you find your joints giving you problems from all the pounding, you really ought to seriously consider tf shoes for the additional cushioning they provide. even ag boots have studs on hard soleplates directly mounted without midsoles.
That's true. I ask myself why the different brands are not producing AG boots with a good shock absorbing midsole, for ex. made by evafoam as most of turf shoes have
Great video! If I could add one con to the AG shoes that I rarely hear anyone mention, is that if you play as a defender you can really hurt the attacking player by unintentionally stepping on their foot or if you just go for a heavier challenge. When I play with my friends on artifical grass we actually banned AG shoes for this purpose and we all play in turf shoes instead. (there's nothing more annyoing than someone stepping on your big toe with studs :D)
Great video man, although I understand that you are still young and you care about performance more than safety :) for people over 35 AGs may be a bit risky for knee injury, TFs are a bit more mild
@@abdullahkh8720 I would try the Nike Premier 3 TF, it's K-leather, so it gets your feet shape, it has conical studs and a great lunarlon midsole which will give you some cushioning.
I'm wearing Adidas Ace TF white boots and Adidas Predator Accuracy TF black boots on AG. I have no problem yet. Although TF boots can be a bit heavier than FG boots but more safer.
I know a lot of people that wear Turf shoes on artificial grass. I don’t have any since I already have AG boots and where I live you don’t really see that old school turf like the kind they used to use in the NFL in the 80s. I will say though that in the absence of AG boots, I would take Turf shoes over FG boots especially if the artificial grass is old and worn down.
If the artificial grass is poor and thin, wear Turf. While if the artificial grass has good quality and feels soft when you run, just wear AG, because Turf is not stable and have more change to injure knee.
I live in Fort Lauderdale but the leagues I join are all in Miami , and to my knowledge we are not allowed to wear cleats on AG…. I’m assuming conical studs would be out of the question as well , im not sure I’ve never asked , didn’t even know about “AG” shoes.
I just got AG boots they are great but it would be interesting to try Turf shoes. Are there any particular Turf shoes with longer, and more durable mini-studs? I think those might be ideal for dry/old AG which is what's common.
You should try the same wth the Adidas Mundial and you'll see the difference. The studs being little llonger than normal makes them a good option. Also, after having an injury due to soccer cleats on artificial grass, I'd rather choose turf over anything else.
After wearing FG Tiempos on AG, I fell victim to a calf tear and spiral fracture on my fibula from to much grip. I’m wear TF as soon as I recover and able to play again. I’ve been out for 4 months and it sucks.
In terms of functional aspects such as traction, responsiveness, and kick, fg/ag definitely should be better than TF. However, the damage to the joint is the opposite. I know some people, especially the relatively younger, may not need it or think that TF is useless. Higher traction means higher resistance and stress to the joint, which leads to an increase in the risk of injury. I personally ag or mg from puma on ag pitch. Those are pretty good options. Also, bringing TF together as well in case of the body condition or need for recovery.
hi i v got adidas sense 1 AG popolur red color playing on short ag as it shows in yr video other players telling me that is not a goo idea and can get hurt or damage knee or ankle what do u think i have used tiepo nike turf shoes bu turf ag tiempo nike but t when is about traction not sure or when is wet is slippery .
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If I’m sprinting too fast and trying to come to a stop quickly I will slide and bust my butt with the turf shoes on artificial grass with the long blades and black beads. AG boots are definitely better. It’s a shame that some pro indoor leagues require turf shoes with flat soles or min thirty studs. Someone needs to change that!
I have some Nike premier 3 turf shoes that I bought for indoor because I was playing like a month ago but the season ended. I have winter season starting December 18th it rains a lot here you think those will be okay to use on turf? Even when wet?
Check out Unisport's ranking for "Best AG shoes for 2023". In both videos, Jay basically disses Adidas AG boots because they don't have those rounded studs for AG.
I’ve actually heard the opposite about certain artificial pitches in Mexico where they’re not allowed to wear FG or even AG and only allowed to wear Turf/TF shoes.
If we talking like carpet turf yes, its pretty much leveled like home carpet or floor if we being honest. If its actually elevated above the floor and shares characteristics of real grass such as the thickness, and clingy on the studs or bottom of footwear then go for AG You cant go wrong in AG for both tbh but why not have a pair of both AG and turf shoes lol
Yes but be careful, if your cleats are bladed studs i would avoid sharp cuts and turns as you can tear your ligaments in your ankles and knees. Though if the studs are short and conical go for it.
Depends what kind of FG boots you’re using and the condition of the artificial grass. If the FG boots have short conical studs like Copa Mundial, Lotto Stadio, Adler, Pantofola d’Oro, Mizuno Morelia, etc. then there might not be too much of a problem. If you’re playing on overused mashed down artificial grass then I would definitely avoid something like a Vapor/Superfly Elite/Pro FG.
most AG fields are not maintained well and their « grass » is flattened to the point where it is closer to a Turf than to a natural grass field. I would wear AG shoes -on fairly new AG fields -when it rains TF shoes -on old flattened AND dry AG fields Also, TF shoes are better for recovery between games, they cause less trauma to joints and heels…
In my opinion, turf shoes are just as good as AG when playing in artificial grass. It's when it rains or the field is wet when you should change to AG... Those Jomas are nice!
I agree lol. I tried turf shoes but it was wet so I didn’t get as much grip but when it’s dry almost similar
Yeah it's almost the same and pretty good
Love jomas. I also use them in summer when fg gets rock hard & studs don’t help, or as backup when breaking in new boots.
Very comfortable but the outsole rubber can’t be worn as shoes, too soft & wears easy on pavement.
Joma indoor/sala also nice on turf for extra control if you don’t need to do lots of cuts/turns.
it mostly depends on what you've been used to. as a kid I've only ever used football boots / cleats. so when I tried the turf shoes which are like sneakers, it's a totally different (negative) feeling.
Currently nursing a nasty knee injury from artificial grass. The team conversation after was that maybe turf boots are the safest option as any version of boot with studs risks getting caught in the artificial grass and "locked" in place.
For clarity, my injury came from a 50/50 tackle. We both got to the ball at the same time. I planted my left foot and the studs locked into the artificial grass. During the tackle, my whole body got turned, but everything below the knee was locked in place. On real grass, the grass would have torn and the mud would have slipped/broken up and allowed the foot to turn with the rest of the body, so there may still have been some stress on the knee, but it most likely wouldn't have dislocated.
I think safety should be one of the factors taken into consideration when purchasing or recommending boots. And from my experience, any boot with a stud increases the risk of injury in certain scenarios.
So, for me, the loss in grip from turf boots is far less significant than the increase in safety.
But this is just from what I'm told (and it makes sense), so when I have recovered, I will be trying out some turf boots for myself.
It depends.
- If it's a worn out AG pitch with mashed down 'grass' but still has plenty of rubber fill poured into it, the loose pellets will make you slip in TF boots.
- If the field is wet, you will probably slip on AG with TF boots.
- Not all TF boots are created equal with regard to traction. Some grip better than others.
Yeah, spot on. The turf shoes are great for Turf fields that relatively flat. They can still clunk up those plastic pellets though especially on turf fields that don't regularly filter them out weekly. Although on the set seasons where you start getting rain on the pitch. They do tend to slip at times, that is where perhaps a FG or AG come in handy.
Dude I love your videos because you explain a lot of things that other soccer channels wouldn’t. Also you are great at explaining things. Greeting from Mexico
I appreciate you man!
I think the most important point of wearing turf shoes in AG is that you reduce the risk of injury. Especially knee ones, because they don't stick your foot to the ground when turning. It's why I use them. However the "turf" shoes that I use are the Adidas Mundial Team, which have long rubber studs. They give me the perfect traction with the length, but not too rigid as the usual AG plastic studs.
one of the main difference where tf shoes are concerned vs sg fg ag and mg options is the presence of a normal midsole. so if the surface you are playing on is harder and you find your joints giving you problems from all the pounding, you really ought to seriously consider tf shoes for the additional cushioning they provide. even ag boots have studs on hard soleplates directly mounted without midsoles.
this is what i needed to hear thank you
That's true. I ask myself why the different brands are not producing AG boots with a good shock absorbing midsole, for ex. made by evafoam as most of turf shoes have
Great video! If I could add one con to the AG shoes that I rarely hear anyone mention, is that if you play as a defender you can really hurt the attacking player by unintentionally stepping on their foot or if you just go for a heavier challenge. When I play with my friends on artifical grass we actually banned AG shoes for this purpose and we all play in turf shoes instead. (there's nothing more annyoing than someone stepping on your big toe with studs :D)
not as bad as FG though.. that hurts like hell
Great video man, although I understand that you are still young and you care about performance more than safety :) for people over 35 AGs may be a bit risky for knee injury, TFs are a bit more mild
I have always worn turfs on AG fields
My favorite turf shoes on the market are the Vapor 15 Pro TF and Tiempo 10 Pro TF. Both excellent, neither will break the bank either
Any idea what could suits me? I do have a wide feet😢
@@abdullahkh8720 try Mizuno shoes man
@@abdullahkh8720both are good for wide feet, i have the widest feet on earth
@@abdullahkh8720 I would try the Nike Premier 3 TF, it's K-leather, so it gets your feet shape, it has conical studs and a great lunarlon midsole which will give you some cushioning.
I stopped getting knee pain after every match while using TF shoes on AG
what are you using?
@@jonesprivate4064 Adidas Crazyfast.3. Any TF shoe with cushioning will do, don't worry about the model.
I always use TF on artificial grass and is perfect
I'm wearing Adidas Ace TF white boots and Adidas Predator Accuracy TF black boots on AG. I have no problem yet. Although TF boots can be a bit heavier than FG boots but more safer.
You can always do while the pitch is completely dry; otherwise you'll know the faces of ants everytime you do a sprint lol.
Can I play with TF shoes on solid surfaces as well?
I know a lot of people that wear Turf shoes on artificial grass. I don’t have any since I already have AG boots and where I live you don’t really see that old school turf like the kind they used to use in the NFL in the 80s. I will say though that in the absence of AG boots, I would take Turf shoes over FG boots especially if the artificial grass is old and worn down.
Agreed!
Just grab AG cuz it works on everything.
If the artificial grass is poor and thin, wear Turf. While if the artificial grass has good quality and feels soft when you run, just wear AG, because Turf is not stable and have more change to injure knee.
im wearing TF on 4g pitch, I got less grip but also lower chance to fuck up my knee
It works fine unless rainy conidition
Why are a lot of footballers wearing the Nike Mercurial Vapor 15 Elite. I can’t watch a game without seeing half the 11 on both sides wearing these.
Really popular boots for sure
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Are they for wide feet? I need ones for medium/narrow feet
I live in Fort Lauderdale but the leagues I join are all in Miami , and to my knowledge we are not allowed to wear cleats on AG….
I’m assuming conical studs would be out of the question as well , im not sure I’ve never asked , didn’t even know about “AG” shoes.
I just got AG boots they are great but it would be interesting to try Turf shoes.
Are there any particular Turf shoes with longer, and more durable mini-studs? I think those might be ideal for dry/old AG which is what's common.
Copa mundial tf have longer studs. Thats all i know actually would be interested too
You should try the same wth the Adidas Mundial and you'll see the difference. The studs being little llonger than normal makes them a good option. Also, after having an injury due to soccer cleats on artificial grass, I'd rather choose turf over anything else.
You mean copa mundial turf is good for ag too?
@@raiden6513 for me, yes after using them various time. They give enough grip, and to avoid injuries you won't get stuck or anything like that.
Bro, where do you live? Nice field and great video btw .
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After wearing FG Tiempos on AG, I fell victim to a calf tear and spiral fracture on my fibula from to much grip. I’m wear TF as soon as I recover and able to play again. I’ve been out for 4 months and it sucks.
i feel like AG is still better than TF for the rubber pellet fields.
@@tekkhwhere I play the turf is basically ran down to the pellets. It’s terrible.
great video. answering my concern regarding using turf or ag for ag field since my fg boots tend to grip to much in ag field
What's the name of the black nike artifical grass shoes you are displaying in this video?
Do you think AG are needed for more sole grip on the ball? I find the damp AG services makes it hard to control the ball.
In terms of functional aspects such as traction, responsiveness, and kick, fg/ag definitely should be better than TF. However, the damage to the joint is the opposite. I know some people, especially the relatively younger, may not need it or think that TF is useless. Higher traction means higher resistance and stress to the joint, which leads to an increase in the risk of injury.
I personally ag or mg from puma on ag pitch. Those are pretty good options. Also, bringing TF together as well in case of the body condition or need for recovery.
I have FG and Turf shoes. Which would be the better option for AG?
Cause I’m not buying another boot for a summer league 😅
Turf shoes are a safe option. I would just recommend testing them out beforehand to make sure you’re not slipping 👍🏼
Old guy like me . Yeeees 😂
It’s always the old guys wearing TF boots 😂, I get it though; luckily I have AG boots but if didn’t I’d probably wear TF over FG.
hi i v got adidas sense 1 AG popolur red color playing on short ag as it shows in yr video other players telling me that is not a goo idea and can get hurt or damage knee or ankle what do u think i have used tiepo nike turf shoes bu turf ag tiempo nike but t when is about traction not sure or when is wet is slippery .
Noo man.. turf outsol is absolutely for artificial grass..
Meanwhile AG soleplate is almost gimmick, it works only for short natural grass
my artificial grass field doesn’t have any rubber but it has a decent length of grass. Should I use ag or turf shoes
Turf safer
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Great video
Would be awesome for you to review the MG soleplate on different football boots and pitches.
The Puma MG soleplate is great, but unfortunately they don’t sell it very often
Can turf shoes be used in place for indoor shoes? And vice versa?
It is not advisable to use TF cleats on indoor courts, but an indoor cleat can be used on turf, provided it’s dry and small
If I’m sprinting too fast and trying to come to a stop quickly I will slide and bust my butt with the turf shoes on artificial grass with the long blades and black beads. AG boots are definitely better. It’s a shame that some pro indoor leagues require turf shoes with flat soles or min thirty studs. Someone needs to change that!
Hey I have a question I just got a turf boot can I wear it on a concrete surface because there isn’t much grass pitch’s in my country
You can, I did it in school all the time, but be careful if it’s wet it can get very slippery
@@ДенисДавидков won’t it ware down faster?
@@vitaminbacon6695 I used mine for 3-4 years playing nearly weekly until they wore down, it's not so bad
would you say the mundial team is good for ag
I have some Nike premier 3 turf shoes that I bought for indoor because I was playing like a month ago but the season ended. I have winter season starting December 18th it rains a lot here you think those will be okay to use on turf? Even when wet?
No. When its wet you wont have good grip on ag with turf boots
Bro, you think adidas predator accuracy.1 ag soleplate is suitable for ag? Its soleplate is not rounded, is like triangular.
Check out Unisport's ranking for "Best AG shoes for 2023". In both videos, Jay basically disses Adidas AG boots because they don't have those rounded studs for AG.
Can you wear on wood??
Not allowed to wear these on a lot of AG in England.
Interesting, do they require you to wear something with longer studs (FG/AG boots)?
@@upper90football_ not true. Ive played alot in the UK and there are no restrictions at all. See alot of tf and fg on 4g pitches.
I’ve actually heard the opposite about certain artificial pitches in Mexico where they’re not allowed to wear FG or even AG and only allowed to wear Turf/TF shoes.
not true. Just not true at all.
@@npc2k of course not true.
Off course… you can play with 😂😂
If we talking like carpet turf yes, its pretty much leveled like home carpet or floor if we being honest.
If its actually elevated above the floor and shares characteristics of real grass such as the thickness, and clingy on the studs or bottom of footwear then go for AG
You cant go wrong in AG for both tbh but why not have a pair of both AG and turf shoes lol
Can i use ag on turf?
what about FG on AG/TURF?
Not recommend unless the studs are conical in shape
Can you please specifically review the pumas you showed in this video. And can you please talk about the protection of the boots
coming soon
Hi 👋 ,i want to ask you a question can i wear fg boots on ag pitch
I wear FG boots on AG if the studs are rounded, this helps keep you safer on the pitch!
Thank you man ❤️
Yes but be careful, if your cleats are bladed studs i would avoid sharp cuts and turns as you can tear your ligaments in your ankles and knees. Though if the studs are short and conical go for it.
@@Luaone luckily , my cleats have short studs and from the front they are round and very short
Depends what kind of FG boots you’re using and the condition of the artificial grass. If the FG boots have short conical studs like Copa Mundial, Lotto Stadio, Adler, Pantofola d’Oro, Mizuno Morelia, etc. then there might not be too much of a problem. If you’re playing on overused mashed down artificial grass then I would definitely avoid something like a Vapor/Superfly Elite/Pro FG.
So can you wear AG shoes on turf?
TF shoes play in Turf, AG and Natural Grass if it’s dry and small
AG shoes play only in AG field
FG shoes play only in Natural Grass
Hey could you wear Astro Turf boots on concrete?
Nah just wear flat sole shoes or indoor shoes
You actually can we used to do this as kids in England going to primary school. Astros are fine on concrete but the sole will wear down quick
Yes i did, its okay. But abit Slippery haha
most AG fields are not maintained well and their « grass » is flattened to the point where it is closer to a Turf than to a natural grass field.
I would wear AG shoes
-on fairly new AG fields
-when it rains
TF shoes
-on old flattened AND dry AG fields
Also, TF shoes are better for recovery between games, they cause less trauma to joints and heels…
Buy MGs