Norse/Germanic Ancestry and Religion in the British Isles
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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00:00- Intro
01:20- Historical Sources
04:30- DNA studies
08:05- Brand New Study
10:30- Conclusion/Tips
The settlement of Great Britain by Germanic-speaking people from continental northwest Europe in the Early Medieval period (early 5th to mid 11th centuries CE) has long been recognised as an important event, but uncertainty remains about the number of settlers and the nature of their relationship with the preexisting inhabitants of the island. In the study reported here, we sought to shed light on these issues by using 3D shape analysis techniques to compare the cranial bases of Anglo-Saxon skeletons to those of skeletons from Great Britain that pre-date the Early Medieval period and skeletons from Denmark that date to the Iron Age. Analyses that focused on Early Anglo-Saxon skeletons indicated that between two-thirds and three-quarters of Anglo-Saxon individuals were of continental northwest Europe ancestry, while between a quarter and one-third were of local ancestry. In contrast, analyses that focused on Middle Anglo-Saxon skeletons suggested that 50-70% were of local ancestry, while 30-50% were of continental northwest Europe ancestry. Our study suggests, therefore, that ancestry in Early Medieval Britain was similar to what it is today-mixed and mutable.
The Anglo-Saxons were a cultural group who inhabited England in the Early Middle Ages. They traced their origins to the 5th century settlement of incomers to Britain, who migrated to the island from the North Sea coastlands of mainland Europe. However, the ethnogenesis of the Anglo-Saxons occurred within Britain, and the identity was not merely directly imported. The development of an Anglo-Saxon identity arose from the interaction between incoming groups of people from a number of Germanic tribes, both amongst themselves, and with indigenous British groups. Many of the natives, over time, adopted Anglo-Saxon culture and language and were assimilated. The Anglo-Saxons established the concept, and the Kingdom, of England, and though the modern English language owes somewhat less than 26% of its words to their language, this includes the vast majority of words used in everyday speech.
Historically, the Anglo-Saxon period denotes the period in Britain between about 450 and 1066, after their initial settlement and up until the Norman Conquest. The early Anglo-Saxon period includes the creation of an English nation, with many of the aspects that survive today, including regional government of shires and hundreds. During this period, Christianity was established and there was a flowering of literature and language. Charters and law were also established. The term Anglo-Saxon is popularly used for the language that was spoken and written by the Anglo-Saxons in England and southeastern Scotland from at least the mid-5th century until the mid-12th century. In scholarly use, it is more commonly called Old English.
The history of the Anglo-Saxons is the history of a cultural identity. It developed from divergent groups in association with the people's adoption of Christianity and was integral to the founding of various kingdoms. Threatened by extended Danish Viking invasions and military occupation of eastern England, this identity was re-established; it dominated until after the Norman Conquest. Anglo-Saxon material culture can still be seen in architecture, dress styles, illuminated texts, metalwork and other art. Behind the symbolic nature of these cultural emblems, there are strong elements of tribal and lordship ties. The elite declared themselves kings who developed burhs, and identified their roles and peoples in Biblical terms. The effects persist in the 21st century, as a 2015 study found the genetic makeup of British populations today shows divisions of the tribal political units of the early Anglo-Saxon period.
The term Anglo-Saxon began to be used in the 8th century (in Latin and on the continent) to distinguish "Germanic" groups in Britain from those on the continent (Old Saxony and Anglia in Northern Germany). - Розваги
I'm glad that you mentioned the "Viking Craze" with the popularity of various movies and TV shows. While I think that many of these entertainment forms may have awoken the genetic memory, ethnic awareness, or desire to connect to ancestral ways for some, it did flood the world with Viking larpers. I agree with you that when the Viking fad wanes those who are serious will remain, and will likely take Germanic or Celtic heathenry further along in a positive way.
The History channel show Vikings came out the same year I got Ancestry DNA and started the family tree. I watched the show and was increasingly irritated that they really took liberties with reality.
And some of those are white supremacists and Neo-Nazis wanting to be part of the "master race", and I hope they get the attention they deserve from Loki.
Good video. A study coming out later this year is rumoured to show that modern English people could possibly have up to 80% Anglo Saxon DNA, compared to roughly 40%, that the last tests have shown. Anglo Saxons and Celts are all Bell Beaker related IE people, as you mentioned, and must be fairly hard to differentiate between them, so will be interesting what the report says. Cheers from Mercia.
Edited 19/08/21: This figure could of course be way off, as a commentor mentioned below. Perhaps the rumour of 80% refers to the original AS replacement, and the Celts came back into the gene pool later. Hopefully the report will be out soon.
Very interesting. thats what I would have expected too. That will change alot if thats the case
Where will I find this paper?
@@LooniJoose It will be through The Max Planck Genetic Society.
no way its 80% maybe it will bump up to half which is pretty much what most people have been saying for a while now...50/50 celtic and germanic.
@@markymark7826 I think your probably right, 50/50 sounds about the correct percentage to me. Will be interesting to see. Possibly 80% could refer to the original replacement, but like the report on the skulls mentioned here, the Celts could have made a higher genetic impact afterwards by mixing at a later period. I will edit my original comment, to mention this.
Im glad you're clearing this up. Im English Anglo-Saxon. I never knew the name Thor and Odin till I was about 10. I grew up on the stories of Woden and Thunor. My family comes from Winchester and the surrounding areas, me and my grandfather used to walk from his house down to king alfred's statue and he used to tell me the stories of Woden and the wild hunts. Im glad that tv and media has brought our ancestors beliefs albeit a romanticized norse version into modern culture but I also think people should seriously look at their own roots and version of the northern germanic ways. It seems everyone at the moment wants to claim they are from Scandinavia and completely disregard all the other tribes that their ancestors were more likely to have come from.
Also the angles, jutes, saxons, frisians and others all raided. Not just the scandinavians, it was a common thing for all us nothern Germanic people and that needs to be made known too, tons of different tribes were Vikingr.
Also im pretty sure wales and welsh is a Saxon word for slave or outsider to describe the locals that were genocided and pushed into wales and Cornwall and it was used as a racists slur. Where as the welsh called themselves Cymru which I think means friend or friendly, I don't know it's been a while.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻 🏴 Germanic and proud mate I stay true to my ancestors and where are ancestors came from southern Denmark and northern Germany fact
Jutes,angles,saxons and frisians were west Germanic,before the migration period scandinavia (except Jutland and some danish islands that were west Germanic) was north Germanic while continental North-western Europe was Germanic
You bring up a very interesting point about ancestry testing. How pointless! I don’t care for it either but that is another story for another video. It makes sense to research your own family and more importantly, to follow the calls of your soul. Listen to that deep, intuitive longing and go where it leads you. Spirituality is uniquely personal and if you’re being drawn to the pagan practices and beliefs, regardless of your perceived ethnicity, there’s a reason.
Thank you for all of your research and time. I appreciate it with every cell of my being. Plus, you’re so handsome and disarming that I could just watch you for hours!
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English Germanic and proud 🏴 great video 👍🏻
I have been looking to find out what my family history is. I started with my Surname, and they area I'm from. Even though your totally correct everyone wants to be Viking. I found out I'm actually Anglo-Saxon and have an ancient Anglo-Saxon surname. I even found the meaning of the name. The name is derived from Old English word hæsel and the Old Norse word hesli, which both mean hazel, and from the Old English word hop, which refers to a valley or a hollow between two hills. It's amazing to know this. Loving your work, and thanks from Geordie Land 😊
Same anglosaxon . Millsom is a pre 7th century, english surname with other spin off variations. It comes from mil, in german meaning beloved or loved one.
Fun finding out more. We were saxon lords apparantly in charge of surnames, until 1066 when we came out of power. Much to my amusement when i heard an american surname in he jonny depp case, rottenbum, how they pronounced it was not how it was spelt.
My Norwegian is all from inland Norway so I just accept that I'm genetically a farmer all the way through lol
I appreciate your candor with your discussions. I recently took an ancestry DNA test. It came back that I was mostly Italian. There is no Italians in my family or has there ever been any mention of our family having any association with Italy. Which really brought a lot of doubt into the validity of these DNA tests. When I was a small child, my family all mentioned Juteland (Denmark) and Northern Germany as our family origins. Since I was a child I always had a gravitation towards Viking or Norse heritage. I would read and learn all I could about them. Not that I have any issues with being Italian, and sometimes people say I look Italian because of my dark hair, it just doesn't fit what my family ever mentioned. So when you say look into yourself, rather than these DNA tests, I really feel you hit it home with your discussion on this topic. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise regarding this subject matter.
There's has to be some Italian due to the Romans.
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There were always pockets of Celts, even when the Germanic tribes migrated. Living in Derbyshire there is a town called Wales, a couple of miles away. If you just look at place names you see a mixture of French, Celtic, Norse place names. In Derbyshire The Peak District comes from the tribes of Picts who lived there. There was a theory that the Norse and Germanic people came to inhabit land that had been left fairly empty after plague or illness had reduced the native population. So eventually numbers of native celts returned, and that would change the DNA. Interesting that West Yorkshire has a different DNA to most other British people. Apparently the independant kingdom of Elmet for a long time. Personally I like Gedmatch for getting DNA samples. It indicated the mesoamerican, and some companies pick that up and some don't. Also if you live in Britain you have a 90% chance of having Scottish and Irish DNA, simply because of the displacement of those people by the Englsh. Gedmatch can pinpoint DNA right down to county.. so it gave me lots of Argyll, and Orkney.. looking at Orkney clans and then at cousin matches I am fairly confident that the Andersons were my clan, amongst other like McPhersons, MacKies.. etc.. Irish O Neils (who hasn't got O Neils???) so I would say it can be pretty accurate.
The Picts were that far south? Interesting
@@NoName-yw1pt Yep, I think so, at least the celts were
@@TheWitchInTheWoods Are you celtic?
@@NoName-yw1pt half english, half german
Something never mentioned is Yorkshire had it's own language. It's all but disappeared now, but there is even a counting system.
There’s nothing wrong with getting DNA tests.. discovering my Scandinavian ancestry is what sparked my interest in paganism and the history of Viking settlement in England. Genetic memory plays a big part in connecting to the culture, spirituality and history imo otherwise it feels like cultural appropriation since “Vikings” have become so commodified in popular culture
.... the people who own the media try to vilify virtually every ethnic group but their own
@@WilliBond0007 Modernity seeks to strip away ones individualism and eradicate thousands of years of rich history so we are all but soulless cogs in the cosmopolitan capitalist machine but remember this current period is but a blimp in our history
I think what he is getting at is that most of the big DNA testing companies are really bad at what they do and give inaccurate results. Most of them are set up for profit and sell your information for more money , meanwhile they give ppl misleading and wrong results , and have been cought adding or changing ppls results to support certain agendas that some groups want ppl to believe.
There are very few companies that really do it properly and they aren't the big name corps run for stockholders. Do your research b4 wasting your money only to be sold a lie.
@@whispersinthedark88 brooooo, I completely agree. That and what if your daughters dva makes her liver the perfect one for this billionaire.
DNA tests are more of a novelty thing.
Look up where twins and triplets (identical) got completely different results.
Might as well get a plot of land in Scotland and call yourself a laird then get a star named after your child
Love this content. Thank you!
Glad to see a new video
I know you've said it's not quite your favourite; the DNA tests... But it would be interesting to see you take one, share and discuss which of your genetic coding pops up where. From a few well backed articles I've read, there does seem to be a pretty strong accuracy to some.
Your input on these subjects is always captivating!
Another very well researched and informative video ty
Great video and awesome information.
Rawrsome brother! keep em coming, I am truly fascinated, and I love your Bare-Bones approach to the knowledge. Thank You.
Great video brother
Excellent video!
Glad I found your channel man
I love your channel. No one sites resources like you do. On one side of my family i am 2 generations away from Germany and on the other side of my family i am 5 generations from Germany.
Appreciate your thoughts on this subject - I think the genetics is something those of us with families who emigrated several centuries ago are the ones focused so much on wanting to know our genetic family trees for sense of belonging to a homeland/place. I’m lucky to have a historian in the family who has documented our family lineage and what you describe of the mixing back and forth through various migrations spoke to me for sure - keep up the great work!
Super Interesting! Thanks! 🛡️
THANK YOU!
In all science paradigms are a sieves. Then on a rare occasion an anomaly is filtered and observed. Y-DNA is constant, the kernel does not change. "if we all go back far enough we are all one people" 7000 years ago.
Great, informative and factual content! Congrats from a german cousin!
To speak to the DNA of royal houses, The House of Windsor came into being in 1917, when the name was adopted as the British Royal Family's official name by a proclamation of King George V, replacing the historic name of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. (Germanic). The family name was changed as a result of anti-German feeling during the First World War.
In this day's there are no anti-germans feelings in England I would say the opposite.... but to the french🤔😉
4 waves and here they are- we were all on the same boat a long long time ago, then people got off that boat and this list gives the dates when they are discovered in the genetic record. I am still on the boat, the boat is named CTS4528.
(3400 ybp) Sweden, Finland, Scotland
(2000 ybp) Flanders, Holland, England, Scotland,
German coasts again British Isles, Germany
(3700 ybp) England, Ireland, Germany, Switzerland
(5000 ybp) England, Ireland, France, Norway,
Denmark, Portugal
Harvard University reengineered a blood test and created four reagents that amplify. Four separate tests on the same sample discards possible contamination. The cost per test is one-millionth of the old cost, and we will soon have more data.
When you said about memories about past lives, I have this very lucid dreams about this place, when I feel the cold in my skin I can really see that place
My grandfather was from Blekinge and at least 5 generations on my paternal line. Scandinavian by blood. Viking is a culture that I celebrate. To go actual viking would mean a long time in prison.
Blekinge is beutiful. Are you born in the US?
@@hlefvagastirnordmand9032 Yes. In 1959. I hope to visit there in 2 or 3 years.
The damage would be way more crazy too, you'd have to be packing firearms and you would probably end up shot.
Interesting stuff. I think the last tv program that lionised my people was Arthur of the Britons! It’s so long ago, it would be tragic to go back and watch it now.
Like the way you reach out though
Ever since I was a kid I called myself a Celte. You had me at being connected to the landscape and living past lives. I feel very strongly about those things also
Peace 🤘🍀
Your attitude to DNA test is very well informed! I studied genetics at Uni and they do need to be taken with a pinch of salt! When we say a person has 'Viking DNA' they have a sequence or several sequences associated with Vikings to a certain extent.
Definitely compare with historical records if you can.
Loved this particular video. I’m ( from Sydney, Australia ) of Scottish and Irish ancestry and I am a Celtic Pagan. Your video was, perfect. You repeated everything I’ve ever read or been told about my ancient ancestors, and you’re the first person I’ve ever encountered on UA-cam that’s done that.
It was wonderful to see and hear you doing it. Thank you. I wish I could say more, but that’s because I’m so impressed. Once again, thank you.
I’m Scotch-Irish from the states. Any advice on where to find sources on Celtic Paganism ?
@farorin I’ve been a fan of his for a while. Joined his Patreon when he got Zucc’d by Facebook.
@@CollinKell33 I got a lot from reading lots of different books. Not just books about the culture and beliefs, but books of ( mainly ) Irish tales
as told by bards in history. Those stories are a lot like the sagas - that are a mix of history and myth. Raymond Buckland was - his passed - a great source of stuff on Scottish magic and magical history. There’s a UA-cam channel but I can’t remember the name - it’s great for information on the Gods. Just looked it up = mythology and fantasy explained. It’s a tad general, but it’s useful if you don’t know the Gods. And it’s entertaining. All my books are in storage, but many of them were published by Llewellyn. Llewellyn is actually just a good resource to know. They have a web site. I hope this helps you out, I think you may want more but these are good starting points. Stay well and good luck.
@farorin I shall check these channels out, thanks for the heads up. Thank you.
@@iainmelville9411 ua-cam.com/video/a2TVpq8lj6w/v-deo.html perfect video to start with.
Very interresting, indeed!
Saxon and proud.
Great episode! Especially what you said towards the end about the current Viking trend and being true to one’s self. Wise words. Have you done an episode about Norse weapon technology? That’d be a cool one. Peace.
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Not yet. thats a huge subject though and will probably be many videos
I am glad you mentioned that Celtic and Norse religions are not that different. Didn't both cultural groups come directly from the Corded Ware culture? So sort of like double-fist cousins in the first place? I think of the whole thing (pre-christian/northern European/post Indo-European invasion) as regional variations of Yamna/proto-Indo-European culture, with maybe a little of the Neolithic European farmers beliefs throw on top, in various ways and to different extents within each culture.
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nice video!
Whilst I'm excited to see the results of the new study awaiting to be published, the current findings are not too dissimilar. Most recent DNA evidence suggests an average of 10% Scandinavian DNA and between 30-40% Anglo-Saxon genes. Overall, that's around 50% Germanic DNA. The average Englishman is at least 50% Germanic if not more, with the Eastern-half of the country peaking at closer to 60-70%.
Though the pendulum swings more in favour of celtic DNA in very western parts of the country, particularly Cornwall, so that's something to keep in mind.
I feel like I’ve found a home. Thank you.
I'm very impressed by your analysis. My family is French, Scottish and Danish and I had a thorough DNA profile done 5 years ago, which basically tracked my ancestry on both mitochondrial sides : turns out, I'm a Celt from Iberia with a smattering of Middle Eastern, Germanic and Norse. Impressive mix and I wish I could meet and thank all my ancestors for not dropping the ball!
@hola I meant that my current family, going back only 4 generations, is French, Scottish and Danish. So I *really* am part of those cultures. The rest of my comment refers to the mitochondrial DNA test results, which span hundreds, thousands of years.
I really appreciate what you said about going to what calls to you as some people I will be working with are adopted and or do not know their roots- I am starting work in connecting to ones ancestors, the importance of this now more then ever- and this is what I will say to them: go towards the people and places and things that call to you and that feel like "home" thank you for affirming this
I enjoy your videos. Thank you. I was always told that my family name originates from Norway so I decided to go on Family Search website and trace my various family lines. I am lucky that it was all very meticulously put together by other family members so my job was as easy as to just connect the dots. I have direct linage to King Harald Fairhair or Haraldr inn hárfagri to be proper. I also was surprised that when doing my maternal side that I am a direct descendent of Donal Cam O'Sullivan Beare. He most definitely was Celtic but with some Norse influences. Needless to say that we are all human beings and have amazing ancestors in our lines. Thank you for bringing the old culture out of the dark and sharing the knowledge for all generations to come. 🍀⚔🗡🛡🌐
Germanic & Celtic tribes were so similar in their culture you wouldn't have been able to tell them apart. Also, if you go back far enough they are just two branches of the same tree.
I wrote this comment a few mins before the end of the video, you said the exact same thing lol
I did dip into Druidry a bit and I like it as a system of belief. And I'm finding similarities between druidry and animism, that they are both more focused on worshiping the land, the land energies, and nature in general. However, modern druidry isn't the same druidic religion pre-roman era.
Thank you
I've been looking into the Newton side of my family. Apparently the name became popular in the 1066 Norman invasions. Anyone have other info about Newtons?
do you have a channel dedicated to celtic paganism you recommend? my lineage is mostly irish with swedish, and there’s plenty of info about norse paganism but not nearly as much for the celts
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Celtic/Norse ! And proud ! 🏴 🇳🇴, now living in Canada 🇨🇦🍻
If you go to Manchester or Liverpool most people are decended from irish so like he says not one size fits all when it comes to the DNA in the UK
I’ve taken two DNA tests, And I’m great full for them, And for the two my grandmother took, Four months before She died at 94, She was adopted and we never knew she was mostly Germanic and maybe 20% Celt
I find the "Vikings" and "Marvel" shows, vile. I had hoped the "Vikings" show was at least historically accurate.
Excellent history lesson on our ancestral heritage, amazing to me where we all came from and the life we endured travelling and migrating and after all now I like to think for those of us Americans, we are proud United States American citizens all living together trying to make the most out of life, all the very best brother.
GLAD TO HEAR THAT BUT MINE GO BACK AS FAR AS DOUBLE DIGITS.
Has Harald Hardrada's hair or bones been tested for his genetic finger print. Would be interesting what it was.
Funny, I never got into the "Viking" series or any of that. Never knew any background as I'm adopted, so DNA was the only way to get any sort of clue.
Good info, thanks.
A lot of people don't know that the Celts were not slaughtered by the Anglo Saxons like the history books tell you. There is no mass graves or mass burials of Celtic people. Most likely the Anglo Saxons came in and thrived, the Celts probably saw this and decided to integrate into the Anglo Saxon towns and learned the language. If you think about it why stay on the sidelines and watch a people thrive instead of joining in and marrying into the Anglo Saxon families. Back in the day it was all about survival. Anglo Saxons also had vast trade routes just like the Norse, they knew their way around a longship. It probably opened up a world of new trade for the Celts.
I think we no more about are history then you do MR no it all 🤣🤣🤣
Brave Heart and Rob Roy were the movies that set it off, I think.
Being English I think of myself as Celto-Germanic, specifically Brythonic and Saxon (and not really Norse at all, though I'm sure there's a small amount somewhere). But I think Celtic paganism (at least the form practiced in what would become England) is lost. The names of the deities found here don't match as well with those in the recorded Irish and Welsh mythologies, whereas the Anglo-Saxon gods mostly line up with those of the Norse, for which we have so much more textual evidence and can thus follow more accurately.
one of, if not the best video iv seen so far in reguards to celtic and norse paganism.
love the term you used, "viking craze" so true.
imo, and following on from what you said, look towards your own ancestral myths, and pagan belives first, and see is it the right one for you.
keep up the great work, its very educational and helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Yeah the Viking craze has gone nuts
you're totally right about the viking craze. i'm a 6'6 blond irishman with a germanic chaser, and people are like omg thor! (which was a terrible movie)
My family can be traced back to 1455 from Mainz Germany today. I’m American as my German ancestors immigrated to America in 1781. I have travelled Europe many times and I do feel a kinship or a spiritual connection with Germany when I’m there. I agree with you and we are all children of this earth. A person should follow their heart and spirit when seeking the place where your spirit is one with the land.
apparently when william came over his army was a mix of people, but most of it was from brittiany. the celts of britian at the time of the anglo saxons came over, many of the celt feld to france, but then later came back over with william.
Even under the celtic umbrella, there are three main paths. I follow the Irish Pagan tradition. Despite attempts to wipe it off the map, it still survives. It's a living tradition. I feel no absence. There is a wealth of reading and learning to do, traditions to experience, rituals to perform. Plenty to keep us busy.
I would be interest to know, have you made any dna anchestry test? And if you haven’t i recommend doing, unless you are scared to know your anchestry might be something else than you wish
Thank you for explaining the difference between old DNA and modern populations in those geographical areas.
I have found many French ancestors, although not contemporary, and the DNA shows Netherlands, Belgium, etc but not France.
Good you mentioned being true to our Ancestors , I'm a mixed batch myself germanic ,celt ,Norway ,to belerus so I try to honour my Ancestors by sticking to celt and Scandinavians anyway thankyou for sharing your knowledge blessings 🧙
Great vid. I've recently looked up my mother's name and that is english and my father's name is Irish. I'm curious as to which I'm more of. Not sure what way other than a DNA test but not sure which one will tell me the Celtic or Germanic percentage.
With a dna test I found I'm a direct relative to sample STT-A2 found at a pre christian burial site Straumur, East, Iceland. I share 5391 SNPs with that sample, the largest chain having 2684 SNPs. That's awesome to me and very helpful confirming my norse dna The initial dna test won't tell you a lot but you can upload your data to other sites that go way more in depth.
I was born in a town called Toxteth in England, which I believe is a Scandinavian name and I know my great grandfather was a Norwegian fisherman who settled in Liverpool. If only DNA test where better.
Great video.
I wondered if you had watched the series Brittania? It focuses on the last years of the British/roman occupation. It highlights the Celts and also the Druids as the British natives.
Do you know if the Druids had any interactions with the viking/Scandinavian people?
Could it be that the Celtic/Briton phenotypes are stronger and that skull shape may actually be from dominant genes? I’d be curious because from my evolutionary biology coursework the consensus is that most Scandinavians have double recessive genes which means that they could easily look different. Just a thought.
There was a large genetic study completed about 20 years. Blood of the Vikings. Orkney in has a combination that of the male having a higher percentage of Viking DNA. Where the females had a higher percentage of Celtic mitochondrial DNA.
I'm sure I read somewhere that most dna tests only go back about 10 generations with any real accuracy. The exception to this is the male, y chromasome, dna test. This goes back forever, but is only doable by males and is only a tiny segment of who we are. Dna tests do have some value, but only as a part of a bigger toolbox. I would also recommend doing as extensive a family tree as you can and then you could also look at the origins of the surnames in your tree. As for paganism, whichever path appeals to you the most is the best approach I feel, regardless of your origins.
I have a family tree that has a branch going back to 402 in Ireland, the ancestor was the High King. That line became British nobility after England took over. I am assuming that that would greatly increase my chances of having Scandinavian ancestry. Am I right about that? In another line my ancestors were kicked out of France, something about being in Napoleon's rule.
There were Neolithic peoples living on Orkney & the Shetlands. It would be interesting to see DNA results from that time.
My Norse ancestry traces to a region of the Norman region of modern France. The last name was Tew (old English pronunciation of Tyr). The spelling of the name changed due to phonetics in France. They invaded England with William the Conqueror into the southwest section of England in 1067. The spelling of my last name changed again due to phonetics to its current spelling. The other side of the family can be traced to the western coast of Ireland. However, I’ve been yearning for a connection with my Norse ancestry for years. It led me to the UK and locating several distant relatives in the UK. My ancestry DNA shows Germanic and the Irish background. May I have your thoughts as I venture more down the Norse Pagan faith?
CRI genetics said I have Northman six Generations back Seventeen Generations Italian 6 Generations back to 23 Generation British Isles from the 6 Generations back to 19 Generations can you give me any guidance on where I need to look for more information
There is a company that compares your DNA to ancient samples called My True Ancestry.
You may want to check it out. I did Ancestry and you're right about the Autosomal DNA, it shows where your relatives live now, but not where they came from. My family is from Orkney, so MTA shows W Norwegian DNA from matching samples from that time and place, but modern DNA just says Scottish.
Yup, the dna test is a myth if a lizard can test Jewish 🤣🤣🤣 I’m blonde, blue eyed as is my husband and all our daughters, our families are the same with mine having a mix of ginger and blonde.. Scottish surnames mostly my side and both have Irish and Anglo Saxon , I’m Geordie, he’s Northumbrian we live in Northumberland happy mutts of our past 👌🏻
Does that really prove it's a myth? Lol.. Certain people's reportedly worshipped snake 🐍 totems in Eurasia circa 1000 AD. My mother is 100% Norwegian and that's what it shows on the test, even down to the correct area of Hordaland. The tests may have some issues and inaccuracies for some people but to say they are a myth is a bit much.
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Great stuff. I always found myself drawn to hindu meditation practice and have always believed in reincarnation. Just makes sense to me. I didn't actually know germanic paganism held a belief in reincarnation untill i started watching your chanel. Ive always thought of god as a force of nature in a sort of animistic sort of way, the concept of the gods representing aspects of nature in order to describe natural systems through metaphorical narratives makes things super clear for me. Im not sure if it is a genetic thing since all of my fathers fathers come from sweden. DNA talk can very quickly gets too folkist for my liking, but I love studying the material so keep it up cause I actually learn a lot here, so thanks.
My husband’s maternal family came to US from Finland. Would that area have been a part of the Norse ancient culture? And your thoughts on the Kalavala?
Did some family history years ago and my mother side is Irish but my Fathers side is Saxon. I feel more pull within myself towards the saxon beliefs.
What are you saying in the beginning of your videos?? Dig the shirt btw
Its just welcome everyone in norwegian :)
@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 thank you!!! Been watching for awhile and couldn’t figure it out past welcome.
Okay I have a question for you my family comes from Denmark Sweden the highlands of Scotland in the islands around Scotland Welsh and England and the UK so does that mean I have a lot of Viking in my D.n.a
I'm Belgian, so it's not quite clear to me which is our ancestral paganism since we both had Celtic and Germanic influences.
Now ofcourse we speak a Germanic language, namely Flemish.
My family name is from Alsace, but when one looks at family record. We always married with Germanic families. So i think a good reference for conflicting points is that. People typically bond with culturally similar groups. Religions might come and go but people back then stuck together aside from migrations etc.
My grandmother is from Germany but my ancestry shows almost 80% German and the rest mostly british/irish. Considering that my other parents/grandparents are "American", i was expecting more of a mix! My husband is also partly german, so our children are even more German than my ancestry. Kind of wish that I liked the German language more.... But I'm really enjoying learning more about the religion and myths.
MY ANCESTORS CAME FROM ALL OF THOSE PLACES, ENGLAND, GERMANY, SWEDEN, WALES, SCOTLAND, AND IRELAND.
Great video. I think people have been using these DNA results as too much of a crutch recently and as you say, looking at a person and their extended family says more than these tests do.
Great video bro my history is
Welsh Jamaican what a mix 👍🇬🇧🍺🍺 SKOLL
Correct. As I understand it, in terms of numbers, the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Friesians were actually in a minority in the British isles. It’s just that by way of their *culture* (especially language and customs) they came to dominance. As an interesting aside, I believe that many people in Iceland have Celtic DNA on the female line of inheritance (mainly Scottish and Irish) due to the fairly large numbers of women that were brought there as captives by the Norse settlers. Just saying.
My family is Wild Scott. The Northern isles of Scotland is where we are from.
I have a gut feeling we were from Orkney, but I'm not sure about this.
I was stationed in Iceland and really enjoyed my time there, hiking and doing stuff later i found out i do have ancestors from Iceland. So yeah i agree if you feel good in a place you may be in your ancestral home
The comic\graphic novel Sláine is a good introduction to Celtic mythology.
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@@tonytrismegistusroberts5124 I meant for an absolute beginner to stir up interest, not as source material.
@@RedOakCrow oh it will do that, I loved slaine but it's not exactly accurate.
What is your Scandinavian DNA percentage?
I agree it becoming more of a fandom these days
I'm commonly confused for norwegian or dutch by everyone although my family is mostly british with a bit of german. ultimately what's interesting is that the germanic people refer to the inhabitants of the british isles as the descendents of thor just like how freyr is the patriarch of sweden. Also the celts used to call the germans our brothers across the river so there was a familial tie with the germans but definetly a distinct cultural difference. also my true ancestry does dna comparisons with people and the remains of ancient people.