I just bought the fp30x because of you stu. It's my first "real" piano and I'm loving it! I came from an alesis recital semi weighted electric piano. Massive difference! I cared more about the action because my ears are still not good enough to notice the nuances like how you do. Also, anything in this price range will have better sound anyway. But just hearing the fp30x with the just internal speakers is already really good! It resonates with me. I like a little woofy with my piano. I like to feel it when I bang on the bass especially on climaxes of the pieces I play. I think they fixed the clicky sound a lot of people complain about the fp30. It feels sooooo solid compared to my old one. Keep up the great work Stu!
The Alesis Recital sounded like ass to me when I tried one in person. Terrible action, too. Any Roland is a big improvement. Nuances and fidelity are mostly through line-outs rather than the shoddy built-in speakers on either. You'll want good external speakers to get your money's worth out of the sound, like Adam T7vs or Yamaha HS5s, or headphones like the AKG K553 or Shure SRH840.
@@JAnx01 FP30X muddy? Through the line-outs and headphone jacks? It holds its own against popular piano VSTs here: ua-cam.com/video/rRuo-QX6_lY/v-deo.html It needs a little EQ, though, as Roland tuned it a bit odd and rather bright. Nevertheless, badass quality for the money, and it isn't even the best in its product line.
Thanks, Stu, great comparison video. I thought Roland would eat Casio for breakfast but I must confess Casio kept up pretty well. But I think Roland still has the edge in almost every sense, especially when you hook it to a tablet.
I was surprised Casio held up this well considering every video I've seen so far really confirmed the Roland is by far the best one for me, but then I checked and the Casio is ~35% more expensive (at least here where I live) so yeah, Roland still wins.
Sorry to mention this, but only the PX-s1000 comes in. Color options red and white. The PX-s3000 only comes in black. I love mine. Actually returned the Roland for the Casio about a month before this video. Glad I did.
I should be practising. Once again I am absorbed by Stu's presentation. Always something new for me. Last time it was half-pedalling - yes I am using it on broken chords. This time the explanation of the mid-range adjustment and the professional explanation of the usage of extras that defines what will best suit oneself.
Your sound engineer is excellent. I think these digitals absolutely have to be "tuned to the room" not in terms of pitch, but in terms of presence in the room. I personally prefer the lower end of the Casio. While you don't demonstrate it much, I believe the Casio may be the more versatile of the two in terms of auto accompaniment. It's good you pointed out the compression in the sound of the Casio. With my Pianoteq set up, I can play gorgeous soft notes that are virtually mind blowing. I've always felt the new Casios would work very well in top drawer restaurants if any are hiring pianists any longer. I owned three different Rhodes pianos. The best one had felt hammers and aluminum tone bars. It was in a very spacey roundish fiberglass cabinet. I kind of wish I had kept it, although these modern synth-pianos have eclipsed it. I don't care for the so called Rhodes sound on the Roland. One thing you get with the Yamaha DGX is and absolutely authentic DX-7 sound. I don't care for sallow dip if that's what the issue is with the Casio. You point that you have to adopt to the instrument is extremely valid. I called the Kawai es920 "vanilla". One thing I like about the DGX is the voices have character. The acoustic guitar on the DGX is much better than the Casio, but the tone of the Casio is excellent. You need to do an automation show down between the Casio 3000 and the new Yamaha DGX.
Fantastic review my friend. You are very knowledgeable and really good at explaining things. That said, you helped this songwriter to make a good decision. I'm going with the Casio for it's more sounds. I was also impressed with the Casio piano sounds at this price point. Thanks
I also went with the piano after trying at a store. I feel in love with the Casio's action and sheer number of features. Also, the Casio's modern and compact design really caught my eye. Very happy with the Casio
I would like to know which digital piano to play live, put 5 models in order to buy which would be the best. I currently have .DGX 640. I WANT TO CHANGE WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AND CASIO PRIVIA PX S5S / PRIVIA S3000 YAMAHA P 125 KURZUEIL KURZUEIL KA 120 ROLAND FP60X WHICH IS THE BEST AMONG THEM IN A PROFESSIONAL INTERNSHIP
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Good Rhodes sounds on the 3000? Thank you. Greetings from Madrid.
Great video as always! I just purchased a Roland FP30X based on your past videos :) I was curious about the actual number of onboard sounds on the Roland. It would really help to have a video explaining the difference between native onboard sounds (the FP30X has 56 of them) vs. available midi sounds, not just for the Roland but in general. Thank you !
Thanks for the great comparison video. I have the Casio and no complaints. Added bonus is that using it with Logic Pro is great....Logic seems to love this keyboard.
I replaced/upgraded my old baby Grand with pxs1000 , a perfect fit....and the rear facing speakers made my "Liberace" piano even more astonishing 👍👍👍😊😊😊
Far and away the best keyboard review I've ever viewed. And I like "chocolatey" for the Casio 3000, which I own and have been trying to figure out. Terrific and so useful.
That comparison is exactly what I need/want!! There is a FP30 vs ES110 but the sound in the 30x is completely improved, and I don't think the sound for the FP30 in that video was done justice. It was a lot more cloudy than recordings of the FP30 in other videos.
Same here! For key action and piano sample quality I believe these two are the best under 1000! The ES110's speakers are not as good as the FP30X, however with headphones I really liked the tone of the kawai and the action is great.
Yes, please! Been watching review on thepianoforever, he said that roland fp30x was not as responsive as es110, not suitable for intermediate pianist and above, which really disappoint me! (Since I had been eyeing the 30x for a while now)
Your videos on the DPs in this broad feature/price range have been so valuable, thank you. I’ve watched a dozen comparing the Y/C/R etc getting ready to buy my first digital piano (amongst dozens of synths). Got my chance today for a hands-on and between that and these recent reviews, my decision to choose the PX-S3000 was made easier. These reviews really help nail down what to look and listen for, but hearing in person and hands-on with the key action is the necessary subjective step. Subscribed because I really enjoy the information and style!
Would love to see your sound editing preferences on the Roland (assuming through the Piano Designer app). Haven't dug into piano designer on my FP-30X yet.
Thank u for the nice review. Stuggling for a while between those two has now an end. Going to get the fp30x. I like the way u combine your personal feelings and the dry but important fakts. in my early teenage days i played the organ for about 10 years. Now , 20 years later i want to learn to play the Piano. So I´m confident to get the right Instrument to get started.....
Great review as usual Stu. I was a little distracted by noticing that the pianos are at different heights, I.e. different hand positions… the mix of your playing ability and textured understanding of sound and action is amazing. Thank you!
Great observation!. I decided on the Px S3100 for the height(4" compared to 6"). I love the roland but it was too high for me to play. When i lowered the stand it hit my knees.
What an amazing musicality! Do you have your performance channel or album? I would love to be your audience! Otherwise, I will have to visit here and listen to tiny pieces of your music. Your reviews are so insightful as well!
Hi there! Thanks for the suggestion! The PXS3000 has been updated with the new PXS3100 model. We will certainly do our best to tackle a comparison between it and the ES120 for you. :)
Enjoy your reviews. The specs for a pxs3000 on speakers on Sweetwater in the US is listed as 2 x 8 watts. It may not be 16 watts a side as specified in this video. In the U.S. it appears to be selling for $100 more than the fp30x.
I have the Casio and had to look that up on Casio’s site and yes it is 8 X 8, but it sounds fantastic and for the most part loud enough for the home. I had to take a double take on that. No biggie!
Ok I use to have the pxs3000. And now I got the Fp30x. The Roland has fuller and warmer piano tones. The Casio piano is Thinner to my ear. The other sounds on the Roland are Professionaly graded. Not so the pxs3000. So the casio have more sounds (700) but semiproffesional and the Roland has only 56 but professional grade sounds. And for closer the Roland got Audio interface built in what blows out of the way the casio out of the water. So : pianos : Roland > Casio. sound amount Casio > Roland. Sound Quality Roland > Casio. Features. Casio - pitch bend and 2 mode wheels . Roland - audio interface. My choice and my clear winner is the Roland.
Thanks for tuning in and sharing your very detailed breakdown between these two instruments! While personal preference will always come into play, these are slightly different offerings and each model will be aligned for a certain type of player. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
love this video. great job with the review. for some strange reason, the casio is a lot more expensive where I come from. So i bought the Roland! no regrets!
Casio piano tone has a kinda signatured haziness regardless of the model tag, top GP series aside. The event is similar to 90's Korg ai2 synthesizer piano tone,. When you hear it, you'll immediately know what it is... I do not like the haziness on the sound, that's why I have not bought a Casio piano to date. I appreciate and respect what they have been doing since the first PX-100 Privia was introduced in 2003 at their digital piano section and hope to see better Casio products which sound as clear as Roland and am willing to pay a little bit extra for that since nothing is free of charge these days...
At last, I tried the FP30X today. The sounds were fair, and of course the electric pianos and organs are good. The action is much better than average for this price point, though it's partly subjective of course. I didn't like the controls much and struggled to get the touch curve right. Seems the default is excessively responsive, even jerky. I'm beginning to revise my values. There's not much point in adding lots of extras until the action is reasonably good. So well done Roland. The sound did pretty well through the modest speakers despite my initial misgiving, so maybe Roland is getting it's priorities right. I was also impressed by the RP701, which I saw at the same time.
Ciao Stu, sono riuscito ha provare questi due pianoforti side by side. La dinamica di Roland è impressionante, la velocità della tastiera di Casio e la sua reattività sono eccezionali. Non ho notato differenze di peso tra il tasto bianco e nero. L'altra differenza riguarda il posizionamento degli speaker. Quelli di Roland sono sotto, quelli di Casio sono posteriormente A proposito, quando ulilizzi la line out con quali speaker li colleghi durante la prova? Devo posizionare il piano digitale su un scrivania accanto alla mia tastiera arranger e non so che soluzione trovare. Penso che qualsiasi pianoforte digitale posizionato su una scrivania con gli speaker rivolti verso il basso suoni male. Un saluto dall'Italia. Ciao.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! It is great that you were able to test these models out side-by-side. That is the best way to determine which one you personally resonate with most. For our videos, we usually take the line outs directly into our recording interface. We do not apply post-processing or effects to ensure that the sound is as transparent as possible. Periodically, we will put a stereo pair of condenser microphones up to capture the onboard speaker sound. In terms of which piano option would be best, obviously an instrument with top facing speakers might be more ideal given your specific set up. To that point, if you like the FP30X offering, you might want to consider the RD88 as well. Alternatively, you can set things up so that the sound of your digital piano comes out a pair of studio monitors that are ear level and facing you to optimize the listening experience. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
Casio is way better than Roland in this comparison video as an acoustic piano. I have a preference for a high end acoustic grand piano sound and Casio excels at that. As a matter of fact from the sound alone I would not be able to easily distinguish between Casio PS-X3000 and an acoustic grand concert piano, while with Roland V-shaped sound I definitely could. By the same token, Roland FP-30X sounds so much more convincingly as an electric organ to accompany a rock band or even an ice hockey game!
Now that's a comparison review! Appreciate the depth and both seem nice. But I gather that the less you gig -> Roland. The more you value acoustic piano-like sound, action and experience -> Roland. The more you gig and/or value the other effects, bells and whistles -> Casio.
These are both excellent pianos. In this price range you're making trade-offs between features so it's all about what you value personally; for some it will be the action, for others the screen, for others the fact that you can use batteries, etc). I was well aware of the different action on the Casio but ended up buying it anyway as I so value the other features it offers and have no regrets---as he says here, you do just get used to the action if you're playing it with any regularity.
I also went with the Casio after trying out both at the store. I feel in love with the Casio's action and the exaggerated texture on the keys, which reminded me of my old upright acoustic piano. Did you get a chance to try out both the roland and casio at the store?
@@factbasedcomrade wow...here's a delayed response. I was able to get my hands on the Yamaha P125, Roland FP-30 (at the time), and Kawai ES110 at various times during my research. I would say I liked the feel of the Kawai the best (action), liked the Roland as the one I felt I would have bought without other constraints, but in the end none of those pianos had the additional features buried in the Casio which I value so much----most notably the extended sound pallette and screen. Plus it's as light as I'm getting so very easy to drag around as needed, and can even power if off AA batteries in a pinch. Very versatile little beast for the price.
@@DMcC That’s how I ended up with an entry level Casio CDP S110. I wanted something “light”, operates on batteries….However, now, I’m no longer happy with the sound. Think I’ve become accustomed to the sound of the upright acoustic that I have my lessons on!!
The casing of a $300 baby Grand + pxs1000 can achieve amazing results ! The problem with DP is the speaker system, Stu uses output/phone jack to produce higher quality sound...
What I want, is just the guts of the Roland KF-10 to adapt to the case of a grand. I'm wonder it you can order replacement parts from Roland? If you can it would be fantastic, because I believe even the pedal system is wireless. Modeling seems to be where it's at with acoustic piano realism. While the KF-10 is tone limited, I believe the tones it has are excellent.
@@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل I went with the Casio. The sheer number of features and the action of the Casio really sold me after trying both out at Guitar Center.
Wow, its hard to believe that the casio has overtaken the roland in terms of piano tone and sheer number of features. Because of this review and after trying both at a Guitar Center, I went with the casio and I'm very happy with it. The more inexperienced a person is at piano (or any other product), the more they will defer to brand name recognition rather than the actual quality and features of the product. Companies know this and will "cash in" on their brand reputation by just doing the bare minimum for a certain price range. The comparison between the roland and casio is a great example of this. Thank you Stu for really high lighting and truthfully compare and contrast the pros and cons of these two pianos using all of your expertise and experience.
The short key pivot on the Casio makes playing inward on the keys feel heavy and the texture is very different. Certainly one of those keyboards you want to try in person. Very different from my older Casio Privia.
I wish I could afford the guy to play at my dining table! XD Roland uses more of a Hi-Fi tone, which I tend to mimic on the Casio with my 7 band eq. Reducing the mids will reduce the volume quite a bit at lower key presses.
Hallo Stud, my opinion is that this comparison put Roland fp30x as the winning side. The quality of classic piano sound is without doubt higher in the Roland for its marvellous nuances. And however even if the sound reflects the personal taste of everybody, I think that the strong point of fp30x be the mechanic of keyboard and the ivory feel touch in the keys!! Both of these aren't in no other digital piano, in its price range and higher, at least!!!! What do you think about, please? Thanks
The only problem is that Roland FP-30X is in the price of Casio-S1000, not of Casio PX-S3000. At least in my country. Very beautiful review however. Both you music and your comments. Any advice about my dilemma between Roland FP-30X is in the price of Casio-S1000?
Keep doing what you are doing man. I've watch some "similar" channels but prefer your content since you don't get into the pretentious know-it-all attitude. 👏
FP30X has strong treble boost. I would EQ it down in post if I used it for a track. Awesome sound otherwise, and then I'd give the Casio a little treble boost if I used that instead. The Casio sounds ugly when you strike the keys hard, so I would be motivated to avoid playing ff.
The Casio is way more pleasant to listen to. The cutting sound of the Roland is harsh on the ears. It's much more apparent when it is played right after hearing the Casio.
Really good review and enjoyable to watch. I just sold my last piano, a Roland 140R, and am now in the unenviable position of being in the market for something new. I guess what I'm looking for is a personal everyday board that I feel some kinds of connection with, one that feels familiar and comfortable. You know, like when you pick up an instrument planning to play for five minutes but end up playing for an hour. The Roland I owned before was nice, but whenever I sat down to it, it just didn't seem to have anything to hold me there. It was an expensive mistake. I hope the new owner gets more out of it than I did.
I am going to try this conversion on my old upright wuliizer as well, but I like my old Acrosonic by Baldwin (my Liberace Grand was made by Baldwin as well )...
It would be interesting to see how the Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII stacks up these 2 digital pianos as a digital piano even though the Arturia is more of a keyboard controller. Thanks for very thorough reviews.
I have tried both and if you are looking for a better action, go for the Roland Fp30x. As you have said, Arturia is more of a controller, with the dedicated pads and knobs and a smart DAW integration; I felt its key action much more "spongy", but perhaps it is my taste. Anyway, if you have the opportunity, try to play them both to better understand which one suits you better.
@@dart501st I actually own that arturia 😂. The key action is phenomenal. Just depends what you want to do with it. I use native instruments Grandeur and there is not comparison. Sounds way better than these 2 together. But just keep on mind that you will need a computer, interface and get the software that you like best. I am looking to buy the roland as my second piano cause I don't want to bring my arturia to play outdoors.
Deal all, please don't buy Casio S3000 piano. by mistake I purchased for my son, with in 6 months, it started giving problems.(1, Line on LCD, 2, Volume increasing and decreasing automatically). I contacted customer support, I never seen such a horrible customer support in India, piano is with me unrepaired. Please don't waste your money
i was going to buy px-160, then the px-s1000 but decided to upgrade to the px-s3000 because it has a mod wheel. seriously, i use that a lot hehe. it is also 50% cheaper than this roland in my country.
I really don't know what I should do for a upgrade I'm sort of decideciding between the Casio CDP-S350 or spending a little more to get the PX s3000 they both have what I'm looking for a shit load of tones to work with fully weighted keys recording abilitys. I think my one thing I'm bothered by the CDP-S350 is that it can't directly record to a flash drive I would have to hook up a computer or laptop to the CDP-S350 to export the recording while the Px s3000 can direct record to a flash drive
@@Jason75913 I actually decided on a new digital piano I actually decided to get the Korg xe20. It ended up going on sale on cyber Monday and ended up being cheaper then the casio px-s3000
can someone help me decide lol should i buy the roland fp-30x or the yamaha p-125? the only thing i don’t like about the fp-30x is the price-i can afford it but i do think it’s a bit high and i’d still need to buy a stand, then app and the user interface-both are boring lol while in yamaha i just dont like the keyboard action. i rlly like the sound but roland’s is better for classical music so irdk
@@chasing_the_horizon yes but hi compared the Roland FP-90 with the Yamaha p515, and the Rolando it's supposed to be better, so that is not a reason, for me.
I put on my headphones for this, and they both sound very good to me. Espeically at their price points. I think most would say the action on the Roland is more authentic.
I just bought the fp30x because of you stu. It's my first "real" piano and I'm loving it! I came from an alesis recital semi weighted electric piano. Massive difference! I cared more about the action because my ears are still not good enough to notice the nuances like how you do. Also, anything in this price range will have better sound anyway. But just hearing the fp30x with the just internal speakers is already really good! It resonates with me. I like a little woofy with my piano. I like to feel it when I bang on the bass especially on climaxes of the pieces I play. I think they fixed the clicky sound a lot of people complain about the fp30. It feels sooooo solid compared to my old one. Keep up the great work Stu!
The Alesis Recital sounded like ass to me when I tried one in person. Terrible action, too. Any Roland is a big improvement. Nuances and fidelity are mostly through line-outs rather than the shoddy built-in speakers on either. You'll want good external speakers to get your money's worth out of the sound, like Adam T7vs or Yamaha HS5s, or headphones like the AKG K553 or Shure SRH840.
@@Jason75913 The Roland FP-30X sounds muddy to me. In this price segment, I'd go with Korg LP-380u or the C1.
@@JAnx01 FP30X muddy? Through the line-outs and headphone jacks? It holds its own against popular piano VSTs here: ua-cam.com/video/rRuo-QX6_lY/v-deo.html
It needs a little EQ, though, as Roland tuned it a bit odd and rather bright. Nevertheless, badass quality for the money, and it isn't even the best in its product line.
@@Jason75913 No, through its horrible downwards facing speakers.
I’ve had my old Casio Privia for 14 years but I’ve been wanting to buy this new Casio. Something about it sounds nicer than the Rolands and Yamahas.
Agreed
I too agree.
It's the actual tone - after the attack...when it's just sounding. The sound is better on the Casio.
Thanks, Stu, great comparison video. I thought Roland would eat Casio for breakfast but I must confess Casio kept up pretty well. But I think Roland still has the edge in almost every sense, especially when you hook it to a tablet.
I was surprised Casio held up this well considering every video I've seen so far really confirmed the Roland is by far the best one for me, but then I checked and the Casio is ~35% more expensive (at least here where I live) so yeah, Roland still wins.
What happens even you hook it/them up to a tablet?
I can't thank you rnough for your comparisons, they are so on point! You should be well above 100k subs, your videos are awesome! Keep them up!
Sorry to mention this, but only the PX-s1000 comes in. Color options red and white. The PX-s3000 only comes in black. I love mine. Actually returned the Roland for the Casio about a month before this video. Glad I did.
Can you please tell the reason for returning Roland?? And your feedback for Casio px S3000??
I should be practising. Once again I am absorbed by Stu's presentation. Always something new for me. Last time it was half-pedalling - yes I am using it on broken chords. This time the explanation of the mid-range adjustment and the professional explanation of the usage of extras that defines what will best suit oneself.
Your sound engineer is excellent. I think these digitals absolutely have to be "tuned to the room" not in terms of pitch, but in terms of presence in the room. I personally prefer the lower end of the Casio. While you don't demonstrate it much, I believe the Casio may be the more versatile of the two in terms of auto accompaniment. It's good you pointed out the compression in the sound of the Casio. With my Pianoteq set up, I can play gorgeous soft notes that are virtually mind blowing. I've always felt the new Casios would work very well in top drawer restaurants if any are hiring pianists any longer. I owned three different Rhodes pianos. The best one had felt hammers and aluminum tone bars. It was in a very spacey roundish fiberglass cabinet. I kind of wish I had kept it, although these modern synth-pianos have eclipsed it. I don't care for the so called Rhodes sound on the Roland. One thing you get with the Yamaha DGX is and absolutely authentic DX-7 sound. I don't care for sallow dip if that's what the issue is with the Casio. You point that you have to adopt to the instrument is extremely valid. I called the Kawai es920 "vanilla". One thing I like about the DGX is the voices have character. The acoustic guitar on the DGX is much better than the Casio, but the tone of the Casio is excellent. You need to do an automation show down between the Casio 3000 and the new Yamaha DGX.
Bubba Stu, I just like listening to you play brutha! Being a pianist myself, it’s just good therapy just to sit and play like you do.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for tuning in! I will be sure to pass on the compliment to Stu. :)
Been going through lots of your reviews trying to decide on a piano. Really appreciate the detail and your playing! Thanks
Thank you! What do you recommend me between Casi px 800 and Roland FP 30X in terms of piano sound?
Fantastic review my friend. You are very knowledgeable and really good at explaining things. That said, you helped this songwriter to make a good decision. I'm going with the Casio for it's more sounds. I was also impressed with the Casio piano sounds at this price point. Thanks
I also went with the piano after trying at a store. I feel in love with the Casio's action and sheer number of features. Also, the Casio's modern and compact design really caught my eye. Very happy with the Casio
I would like to know which digital piano to play live, put 5 models in order to buy which would be the best.
I currently have .DGX 640. I WANT TO CHANGE
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AND
CASIO PRIVIA PX S5S / PRIVIA S3000
YAMAHA P 125
KURZUEIL KURZUEIL KA 120
ROLAND FP60X
WHICH IS THE BEST AMONG THEM IN A PROFESSIONAL INTERNSHIP
Good Rhodes sounds on the 3000?
Thank you.
Greetings from Madrid.
Great video as always! I just purchased a Roland FP30X based on your past videos :) I was curious about the actual number of onboard sounds on the Roland. It would really help to have a video explaining the difference between native onboard sounds (the FP30X has 56 of them) vs. available midi sounds, not just for the Roland but in general. Thank you !
Thanks for the great comparison video. I have the Casio and no complaints. Added bonus is that using it with Logic Pro is great....Logic seems to love this keyboard.
How so?
@@redmusichouse the default velocity curve is a good match.
I replaced/upgraded my old baby Grand with pxs1000 , a perfect fit....and the rear facing speakers made my "Liberace" piano even more astonishing 👍👍👍😊😊😊
Suggesting a cheap thrill for music lovers !!!!!
Does the psx 1000 replace the action inside the baby grand?
@@JoeLinux2000 definitely not, I own mine just for the piano tone and the portability. But you gotta get used to it.
@@IvanEDaza I was asking Charles about his conversion.
What do you think is the best digital piano under $1000? PX S3000? Roland FP-30X?
Far and away the best keyboard review I've ever viewed. And I like "chocolatey" for the Casio 3000, which I own and have been trying to figure out. Terrific and so useful.
Would like to see you do- Roland FP-30X VERSUS Kawai ES110
The Kawai ES110 default grand piano is very hard to beat under $1,000
That comparison is exactly what I need/want!! There is a FP30 vs ES110 but the sound in the 30x is completely improved, and I don't think the sound for the FP30 in that video was done justice. It was a lot more cloudy than recordings of the FP30 in other videos.
Same here! For key action and piano sample quality I believe these two are the best under 1000! The ES110's speakers are not as good as the FP30X, however with headphones I really liked the tone of the kawai and the action is great.
Yes, please! Been watching review on thepianoforever, he said that roland fp30x was not as responsive as es110, not suitable for intermediate pianist and above, which really disappoint me! (Since I had been eyeing the 30x for a while now)
Kawai no USB midi
this is amazing work thank you! what is the piece played on the casio from 20:25?
Your videos on the DPs in this broad feature/price range have been so valuable, thank you. I’ve watched a dozen comparing the Y/C/R etc getting ready to buy my first digital piano (amongst dozens of synths). Got my chance today for a hands-on and between that and these recent reviews, my decision to choose the PX-S3000 was made easier. These reviews really help nail down what to look and listen for, but hearing in person and hands-on with the key action is the necessary subjective step. Subscribed because I really enjoy the information and style!
He stated that the px-S3000 comes in 3 different colors but I'm fairly certain that it only comes in black. The Casio PX-S1000 has 3 different colors.
I thought it also comes in red. Is that just the PX-S1000?
Would love to see your sound editing preferences on the Roland (assuming through the Piano Designer app). Haven't dug into piano designer on my FP-30X yet.
Him saying that piqued my interest as well.
Aren’t the speakers on the Casio 8 watts per side for 16 total?
You guys read my mind! I’m grabbing some 🍿 and watching this review! I hope the 3000 wins! I bought one last year!
Thank u for the nice review. Stuggling for a while between those two has now an end. Going to get the fp30x. I like the way u combine your personal feelings and the dry but important fakts.
in my early teenage days i played the organ for about 10 years. Now , 20 years later i want to learn to play the Piano. So I´m confident to get the right Instrument to get started.....
Great review as usual Stu. I was a little distracted by noticing that the pianos are at different heights, I.e. different hand positions… the mix of your playing ability and textured understanding of sound and action is amazing. Thank you!
Great observation!. I decided on the Px S3100 for the height(4" compared to 6"). I love the roland but it was too high for me to play. When i lowered the stand it hit my knees.
What an amazing musicality! Do you have your performance channel or album? I would love to be your audience! Otherwise, I will have to visit here and listen to tiny pieces of your music. Your reviews are so insightful as well!
Please can someone explain what direct line out is? Is it that the piano is connected to an amp or speaker? Thank you.
Yes, you've got it! You can take the line out of the piano and plug it into an amplifier, powered speaker or audio interface. :)
@@MerriamPianos Thank you!
Roland has a bell sound in the high end which is what I don't like. I definitely prefer the warm and intimate sound of casio
I wish I could play like that. You're the man!
Excellent comparison, and some really nice playing.
I do hope you guys compare the PX-S3000 and the ES120. Always been a fan of both sounds. curious to hear Stu's thoughts about it
Hi there! Thanks for the suggestion! The PXS3000 has been updated with the new PXS3100 model. We will certainly do our best to tackle a comparison between it and the ES120 for you. :)
Enjoy your reviews. The specs for a pxs3000 on speakers on Sweetwater in the US is listed as 2 x 8 watts. It may not be 16 watts a side as specified in this video. In the U.S. it appears to be selling for $100 more than the fp30x.
More complex electronics inside the PXS-3000
I have the Casio and had to look that up on Casio’s site and yes it is 8 X 8, but it sounds fantastic and for the most part loud enough for the home. I had to take a double take on that. No biggie!
Your review is as briliant as the playing. Thanks 🙏
Thanks so much and thanks for tuning in! :)
Ok I use to have the pxs3000. And now I got the Fp30x.
The Roland has fuller and warmer piano tones. The Casio piano is Thinner to my ear.
The other sounds on the Roland are Professionaly graded. Not so the pxs3000. So the casio have more sounds (700) but semiproffesional and the Roland has only 56 but professional grade sounds.
And for closer the Roland got Audio interface built in what blows out of the way the casio out of the water.
So : pianos : Roland > Casio.
sound amount Casio > Roland.
Sound Quality Roland > Casio.
Features.
Casio - pitch bend and 2 mode wheels .
Roland - audio interface.
My choice and my clear winner is the Roland.
Thanks for tuning in and sharing your very detailed breakdown between these two instruments! While personal preference will always come into play, these are slightly different offerings and each model will be aligned for a certain type of player. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
love this video. great job with the review. for some strange reason, the casio is a lot more expensive where I come from. So i bought the Roland! no regrets!
Casio piano tone has a kinda signatured haziness regardless of the model tag, top GP series aside. The event is similar to 90's Korg ai2 synthesizer piano tone,. When you hear it, you'll immediately know what it is... I do not like the haziness on the sound, that's why I have not bought a Casio piano to date. I appreciate and respect what they have been doing since the first PX-100 Privia was introduced in 2003 at their digital piano section and hope to see better Casio products which sound as clear as Roland and am willing to pay a little bit extra for that since nothing is free of charge these days...
For my taste every sound is more realistic in Roland fp30x than in Casio 3.000!
I thought the Casio had so much more detail than the Roland.
At last, I tried the FP30X today. The sounds were fair, and of course the electric pianos and organs are good. The action is much better than average for this price point, though it's partly subjective of course. I didn't like the controls much and struggled to get the touch curve right. Seems the default is excessively responsive, even jerky.
I'm beginning to revise my values. There's not much point in adding lots of extras until the action is reasonably good. So well done Roland. The sound did pretty well through the modest speakers despite my initial misgiving, so maybe Roland is getting it's priorities right. I was also impressed by the RP701, which I saw at the same time.
Ciao Stu, sono riuscito ha provare questi due pianoforti side by side. La dinamica di Roland è impressionante, la velocità della tastiera di Casio e la sua reattività sono eccezionali. Non ho notato differenze di peso tra il tasto bianco e nero. L'altra differenza riguarda il posizionamento degli speaker. Quelli di Roland sono sotto, quelli di Casio sono posteriormente A proposito, quando ulilizzi la line out con quali speaker li colleghi durante la prova? Devo posizionare il piano digitale su un scrivania accanto alla mia tastiera arranger e non so che soluzione trovare. Penso che qualsiasi pianoforte digitale posizionato su una scrivania con gli speaker rivolti verso il basso suoni male. Un saluto dall'Italia. Ciao.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! It is great that you were able to test these models out side-by-side. That is the best way to determine which one you personally resonate with most. For our videos, we usually take the line outs directly into our recording interface. We do not apply post-processing or effects to ensure that the sound is as transparent as possible. Periodically, we will put a stereo pair of condenser microphones up to capture the onboard speaker sound. In terms of which piano option would be best, obviously an instrument with top facing speakers might be more ideal given your specific set up. To that point, if you like the FP30X offering, you might want to consider the RD88 as well. Alternatively, you can set things up so that the sound of your digital piano comes out a pair of studio monitors that are ear level and facing you to optimize the listening experience. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
OK started watching with a firm belief of purchasing the FP30X as my first piano. Now I'm totally around towards the Casio.. yay!
And bought it! It sounded way better also in the store than the Roland
@@Stinow Great! I am planning to buy casio today.Did u try both of them ?
@@emre5437 jep! And the Casio to me and my friend sounded wayyy more realistic
How do you add those missing frequencies in the mid range in the FP-30x? Thanks.
Compare to model previous fp-30 is difference in piano's sound noticeable?
Can you recommend a good adjustable stand for the Rolalnd FP 30X
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You can buy an adjustable double braced roland stand for it..About £60 here in the UK
Casio is way better than Roland in this comparison video as an acoustic piano. I have a preference for a high end acoustic grand piano sound and Casio excels at that. As a matter of fact from the sound alone I would not be able to easily distinguish between Casio PS-X3000 and an acoustic grand concert piano, while with Roland V-shaped sound I definitely could. By the same token, Roland FP-30X sounds so much more convincingly as an electric organ to accompany a rock band or even an ice hockey game!
Now that's a comparison review! Appreciate the depth and both seem nice. But I gather that the less you gig -> Roland. The more you value acoustic piano-like sound, action and experience -> Roland. The more you gig and/or value the other effects, bells and whistles -> Casio.
These are both excellent pianos. In this price range you're making trade-offs between features so it's all about what you value personally; for some it will be the action, for others the screen, for others the fact that you can use batteries, etc). I was well aware of the different action on the Casio but ended up buying it anyway as I so value the other features it offers and have no regrets---as he says here, you do just get used to the action if you're playing it with any regularity.
I also went with the Casio after trying out both at the store. I feel in love with the Casio's action and the exaggerated texture on the keys, which reminded me of my old upright acoustic piano. Did you get a chance to try out both the roland and casio at the store?
@@factbasedcomrade wow...here's a delayed response. I was able to get my hands on the Yamaha P125, Roland FP-30 (at the time), and Kawai ES110 at various times during my research. I would say I liked the feel of the Kawai the best (action), liked the Roland as the one I felt I would have bought without other constraints, but in the end none of those pianos had the additional features buried in the Casio which I value so much----most notably the extended sound pallette and screen. Plus it's as light as I'm getting so very easy to drag around as needed, and can even power if off AA batteries in a pinch. Very versatile little beast for the price.
@@DMcC That’s how I ended up with an entry level Casio CDP S110. I wanted something “light”, operates on batteries….However, now, I’m no longer happy with the sound. Think I’ve become accustomed to the sound of the upright acoustic that I have my lessons on!!
Thank you for a very informative and useful video and for not wasting my time.
The casing of a $300 baby Grand + pxs1000 can achieve amazing results ! The problem with DP is the speaker system, Stu uses output/phone jack to produce higher quality sound...
What I want, is just the guts of the Roland KF-10 to adapt to the case of a grand. I'm wonder it you can order replacement parts from Roland? If you can it would be fantastic, because I believe even the pedal system is wireless. Modeling seems to be where it's at with acoustic piano realism. While the KF-10 is tone limited, I believe the tones it has are excellent.
I can't choose between the two lol they are both amazing in their own right :)
So take Yamaha better
@@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل I went with the Casio. The sheer number of features and the action of the Casio really sold me after trying both out at Guitar Center.
Wow, its hard to believe that the casio has overtaken the roland in terms of piano tone and sheer number of features. Because of this review and after trying both at a Guitar Center, I went with the casio and I'm very happy with it. The more inexperienced a person is at piano (or any other product), the more they will defer to brand name recognition rather than the actual quality and features of the product. Companies know this and will "cash in" on their brand reputation by just doing the bare minimum for a certain price range. The comparison between the roland and casio is a great example of this. Thank you Stu for really high lighting and truthfully compare and contrast the pros and cons of these two pianos using all of your expertise and experience.
Where is the FP-90X?!?!
:)
Fp30x for sounds, casio for features
The short key pivot on the Casio makes playing inward on the keys feel heavy and the texture is very different. Certainly one of those keyboards you want to try in person. Very different from my older Casio Privia.
the Casio keys may be the bendy type as opposed to the fully mechanical type found in most Rolands
I wish I could afford the guy to play at my dining table! XD
Roland uses more of a Hi-Fi tone, which I tend to mimic on the Casio with my 7 band eq. Reducing the mids will reduce the volume quite a bit at lower key presses.
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The lithmus test is this,which channels the spirit of Vince guaraldi, George Shearing, and Ellington's:"single petal of a rose
The best review and comparison ever.
Hello! Maybe FP-30X vs RD-88 comparison?
No need Yamaha better 😅
@@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل not yet, wait for P-125's successor
The Casio's Privia PX-S3000 specifies that the speakers are 2 X 8 watts and not 2 X 16 watts, it's polyphony (maximum?) is 192.
Hallo Stud, my opinion is that this comparison put Roland fp30x as the winning side.
The quality of classic piano sound is without doubt higher in the Roland for its marvellous nuances.
And however even if the sound reflects the personal taste of everybody, I think that the strong point of fp30x be the mechanic of keyboard and the ivory feel touch in the keys!!
Both of these aren't in no other digital piano, in its price range and higher, at least!!!!
What do you think about, please?
Thanks
Beautiful sound Roland
Absolutely! The current Roland tone engines are excellent! :)
When will you compare Roland fp30x and Yamaha p125?
He already did
When?
@@mauriziosilvestro8879 oh wait he did fp30 vs the p125, but not the 30x. Jeremy See did a review comparing the two of you want to watch that :)
@@kowalskianalysis1710 ok i'm waiting thanks.
The only problem is that Roland FP-30X is in the price of Casio-S1000, not of Casio PX-S3000. At least in my country. Very beautiful review however. Both you music and your comments. Any advice about my dilemma between Roland FP-30X is in the price of Casio-S1000?
get the Roland if you haven't, I say, it's just a better instrument in general, and the Casio sounds terrible when you hit ff
Thank you Stu.
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in and supporting the channel!
I like your playing 👍
Keep doing what you are doing man. I've watch some "similar" channels but prefer your content since you don't get into the pretentious know-it-all attitude. 👏
Well said. One more thing to appreciate about Stu.
FP30X has strong treble boost. I would EQ it down in post if I used it for a track. Awesome sound otherwise, and then I'd give the Casio a little treble boost if I used that instead. The Casio sounds ugly when you strike the keys hard, so I would be motivated to avoid playing ff.
I’ve had my Casio CDP S110 for about 2 months and I’ve already started looking around for something else!! 🙈
Once you start, it is hard to stop upgrading pianos! :)
@@MerriamPianos And going down the rabbit hole of watching piano reviews and demos on UA-cam!!
I don't know why I liked the Roland better, but I just think I did.
Sometimes we don't know why we connect with a particular instrument/sound. But, when we know it's the sound we're looking for, it's undeniable. :)
roland action is the bestest :)
I use RD-700GX, and I also bring a little bit emphasis on midrange tones. Otherwise, if I don't do that, it sounds "boxie", i.e trapped sound.
The Casio is way more pleasant to listen to. The cutting sound of the Roland is harsh on the ears. It's much more apparent when it is played right after hearing the Casio.
Really good review and enjoyable to watch. I just sold my last piano, a Roland 140R, and am now in the unenviable position of being in the market for something new. I guess what I'm looking for is a personal everyday board that I feel some kinds of connection with, one that feels familiar and comfortable. You know, like when you pick up an instrument planning to play for five minutes but end up playing for an hour. The Roland I owned before was nice, but whenever I sat down to it, it just didn't seem to have anything to hold me there. It was an expensive mistake. I hope the new owner gets more out of it than I did.
I am going to try this conversion on my old upright wuliizer as well, but I like my old Acrosonic by Baldwin (my Liberace Grand was made by Baldwin as well )...
Nice review
How I wish i could have any one of those dig. Piano 😭
My fingers are crossed for you that you'll be able to get your hands on one soon! :)
@@MerriamPianos thanks a lot 😇 Godbless and more power
It would be interesting to see how the Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII stacks up these 2 digital pianos as a digital piano even though the Arturia is more of a keyboard controller. Thanks for very thorough reviews.
I have tried both and if you are looking for a better action, go for the Roland Fp30x. As you have said, Arturia is more of a controller, with the dedicated pads and knobs and a smart DAW integration; I felt its key action much more "spongy", but perhaps it is my taste. Anyway, if you have the opportunity, try to play them both to better understand which one suits you better.
@@dart501st I actually own that arturia 😂. The key action is phenomenal. Just depends what you want to do with it. I use native instruments Grandeur and there is not comparison. Sounds way better than these 2 together. But just keep on mind that you will need a computer, interface and get the software that you like best. I am looking to buy the roland as my second piano cause I don't want to bring my arturia to play outdoors.
Rear facing speakers vs down facing, Casio unique model due to super slim design.
came for pianos stayed for the playing
The intimacy he speaks about when playing the casio that he doesn't feel as much on the roland is called: he's in love with casio. 😂😂
Haha perhaps! You would have to verify that with Stu. It is definitely a tough call between these two wonderful portable digital pianos. :)
Deal all, please don't buy Casio S3000 piano. by mistake I purchased for my son, with in 6 months, it started giving problems.(1, Line on LCD, 2, Volume increasing and decreasing automatically). I contacted customer support, I never seen such a horrible customer support in India, piano is with me unrepaired.
Please don't waste your money
A period correct sound is what you seek.
Still FP30x has a thicker n surround sound..
The Roland FP30X's tone engine and speakers are certainly quite impressive! :)
It's telling that you consistently punch tone out of the Roland, but approach the Casio with a much more subtle touch.
Inevitably, our playing is reactive to the touch and tone we are experiencing. :)
Wow😯😯, no matter what keyboard you going review even the cheapest one. It will sound expensive if you play it.
If FP30 did E-pianos better, it would have been a perfect device!
You obviously like the Casio more, you played on it most of the video! Hahah
I noticed it too. That is probably the best indicator as to which one to buy.
Obviously hahaha
i was going to buy px-160, then the px-s1000 but decided to upgrade to the px-s3000 because it has a mod wheel. seriously, i use that a lot hehe. it is also 50% cheaper than this roland in my country.
PS s3000 doesn't have modulation wheel! Only pitch bend
I do like the dynamic or sound of casio
Both of these pianos are fantastic instruments. The decision ultimately comes down to the musical preferences of the specific player. :)
I really don't know what I should do for a upgrade I'm sort of decideciding between the Casio CDP-S350 or spending a little more to get the PX s3000 they both have what I'm looking for a shit load of tones to work with fully weighted keys recording abilitys. I think my one thing I'm bothered by the CDP-S350 is that it can't directly record to a flash drive I would have to hook up a computer or laptop to the CDP-S350 to export the recording while the Px s3000 can direct record to a flash drive
You could also just use a Tascam DR-40X to record the CDP-S350 without having to bring your laptop over. Whatever works for you.
@@Jason75913 I actually decided on a new digital piano I actually decided to get the Korg xe20. It ended up going on sale on cyber Monday and ended up being cheaper then the casio px-s3000
can someone help me decide lol should i buy the roland fp-30x or the yamaha p-125? the only thing i don’t like about the fp-30x is the price-i can afford it but i do think it’s a bit high and i’d still need to buy a stand, then app and the user interface-both are boring lol while in yamaha i just dont like the keyboard action. i rlly like the sound but roland’s is better for classical music so irdk
What did you decide to go with in the end?
@@SiergiejW fp30x, i regret it
@@ensayh 😆 what did you get after?
@@trombulan i quit piano lol
@@ensayh 😕 but why?
Roland sounds more like an idealized piano
"idealized"?
Can you compare the Roland FP-90 vs FP-90X PLEASE
@@chasing_the_horizon yes but hi compared the Roland FP-90 with the Yamaha p515, and the Rolando it's supposed to be better, so that is not a reason, for me.
These are New dps. But all digital pianos(exept hybrids) have clicking sound which louder than the music. Cheaper faster, more expensive later,
Casio - super!!!
In truth, Roland doesn't come into it's own until you encounter the rd 800
Are the keys are weighted on those mashines?
yup
Roland keyboard is better for sure 😊
I put on my headphones for this, and they both sound very good to me. Espeically at their price points. I think most would say the action on the Roland is more authentic.
It sounds like an older Steinway
What does?