At that point they should just move football season to the summer. That way you don't have to worry about "bad weather" and the flashy teams can play I'm their dry, sterile stadiums in 100+ degree heat. Because after all THAT isn't an unfair advantage that diminishes the game, right? It's not like Miami intentionally designed their stadium and uniforms to give their opponents a heat stroke, right guys? Oh wait....
It is peak because it's something different, its rare and its vintage. Everything needs contrast. If it was all perfect conditions and high performance offense, zero defense, all the time, we'd get bored with it. The NBA for instance. "When everyone is super, no one will be." - The Incredibles @@eddiewinehosen6665
@x3ch4nt3d6 exactly this. I went to the Jets game at the end of the year last year not because I wanted to watch Bill Belichick's send off, not because the team was even watchable (because they werent) but because it was a snow game in Foxboro and that's everything new England football is about
The snow and weather didn't seem to keep Buffalo from playing their best.... Also, the Super Bowl isn't played in nice weather cities or domes for the quality of the game. It is played there because they know that the corporate sponsors and random, just want to be there millionaires who buy the tickets months in advance won't show up for a game in miserable weather like last night, even if it still leads to beautiful football.
I love a good snow game, the Browns game recently was entertainment gold (for lots of reasons and not just the snow). But a Super Bowl, at somewhere like Green Bay or Buffalo, in the super cold or deep snow would be a travesty.
@@ShimmyD-u7g Yeah you're right, noone would remember the Ice Bowl with 50,000 fans and one of the ballsiest coaching decisions in NFL history with a QB sneak to win it for a legacy franchise in the Packers vs the Cowboys. To be brutally honest I understand the reason behind a "neutral field" and planning the SB location years in advance. But I don't see a bad weather game as a bad thing for the sport as say, watching a New England Rams game that went 13-3 that was completely uninteresting. A fan that is willing to spend thousands to 10's of thousands on a SB ticket is, I'd imagine, all in regardless.
you know who wasn't "tippy-toeing in the snow?" Born and raised in Miami, played at Georgia James Cook. He had the 7th fastest top speed in the NFL this season, per next gen stats, on his 65 yard TD run... on a film of snow. That was absurd
Football started in the “Northern” States weather is apart of the game period yes my team has been in a dome for fifty plus years but we built to play outside 🦁 1️⃣ pride
@@REE_III : Yes, it is. And you're in the minority of you believe otherwise. Best bet used to weather playing a factor in football, because it's here to stay 🤷♂️
There have been plenty of outdoor Super Bowls. The LA Coliseum, The Rose Bowl, Giants Stadium NJ, Miami Orange Bowl, Tampa Bay Stadium, and Louisiana before the Superdome. As a matter of fact, more Super Bowls have been played outdoors than not.
@@waltercampbell9787Lol the "capital" of football. Green bay and the county it's in is a joke. It will never ever ever ever happen. Nor would it ever have the infrastructure to support an actual living population. It all mouth breathers up there
Yup. You've gotta anticipate that a December game in Buffalo could be a snow game and bet with that in mind though, so I don't feel too bad for them. 😏
Who would have thought that Kurt Warner, who played most of his career in a dome in St Louis and in the desert in Arizona, would hate cold weather football.
And it’s ironic he lost 2 super bowls to teams that play outside that had to play in cold conditions to get to the superbowl as in the patriots and Steelers 😂😂
6:25 of all the bad takes on this show that one was the worst. Snow games are the pinnacle of football. When motion, trickery, and finesse are replaced with strength, will, and the desire to win.
I'm biased as a Packer fan, but I feel it's part of the home field advantage. Some stadiums are acoustically louder than others....should they regulate that too? Pump cheering through the speakers at quieter stadiums? What about the field? Should ALL fields be made of the same turf or same strain of grass? I could go on, but you get the idea.
Exactly. And what about playing in Florida at the beginning of the year or in Seattle where it's always raining? Snow is the most noticeable but it's just one of many things players and coaches have to plan for and work around
@@RichEisenShow I guess I'm a moron then, because we were having a real good time last night. Also you didn't choose where you grew up, you chose where you fled too. Soft.
There are certain NFL teams that should not have a dome. Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Denver, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Chicago, New England,
I would add New York, Arizona, Minnesota, Miami, Jacksonville, Carolina, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, Las Vegas, Houston, Washington, Tennessee, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Dallas, Tampa, and Atlanta.
@@michaelmanwiller1869because their fans don’t want a lame dome, and Bud Grant himself hated losing that home field advantage in Minnesota in 1980, he missed playing in the Old Metropolitan Stadium
Snow games are almost exclusively for the viewer experience and not meant to be optimized for the best athletic conditions. This is one of the only major outdoor sports that still happens in winter months, and non-team fans are mesmorized by how cool the snow games are
him + nick wright should just get together and do their own separate show about how much they don’t like Goff / the lions bc it’s annoying to hear every time the team is brought up lol
Chris hates the Vikings too. Packers are Third in the division and Vikings are more relevant than the Packers. I think he’s a closet Packers sympathizer
Remember when they only won by four to Deshaun Watson? Without Saquon they have nothing. Hurts and Saquons rushing threat is the only thing keeping their offense moving. Take that away and they crumble.
Injuries are becoming unsustainable for the Lions. They've stemmed the tide well but the injuries are starting to pile up for the defense, and the season ending injuries are real killers.
@@casualwater698 they already beat the narrative that they would lose when hutch got hurt, since then they haven’t lost. Chiefs got all the benefit of the doubt until they lost, well Lions still haven’t since week 2
One of the best Eagles or Lions game was the snow game a decade ago. It was fun for the players and the fans! The best classic games were GB and KC ... the frozen tundra of both of those stadiums in insane!
Bad-weather football is excellent and should NEVER go away. The chiefs-dolphins game in the playoffs last year where Mahomes' helmet literally shattered because it was so cold and brittle was effing electric. The browns and bills games the last two weeks were also phenomenal.
There have been some phenomenal snow games in the history of the NFL. As a Eagles' fan, I remember an awesome game between the Eagles versus the Lions in Philly. Shady McCoy was amazing in that snowy game.
Regarding those complaining about football in bad weather; WHY DO YOU INSIST ON REMOVING DRAMA FROM THE SPORT!? Ever think that one of the reasons that Allen TD was so amazing was because of the weather? These are the same people who want to get rid of kickers and think the fumble through the end zone shouldn’t be a touch back. Stop trying to remove drama from the sport to pad your fantasy stats.
That game wasn’t even fun for Bills fans , watching from home, seeing these grown men slipping all over the place. Yea fun, ruined a competitive Sunday night football game.
@@techguymarkiiI'm a Bills fan, and I was thoroughly entertained.🤷🏻♀️ Also, I think the Bills would have pulled ahead by a couple of touchdowns before the end of the game regardless of conditions.
@@mikeelton3686 You mean the same way the owners should decide if they have a dome or not. Just because you missed my point which is they (chris & kurt) don't pay so they don't have a say.
@travismiller4320 neither fans should , it should be the owners who extort these cities for taxpayer funds and have billions themselves . I've been there many times great atmosphere don't think that would change if they had a dome , I dunno just a thought cheers
@ thanks for reply, love the show. Variety is the spice of life. Sometimes in football has weather changes the game. In baseball, a hit with a particular launch angle and EV is a double in one park but a homer in another. Football shouldn’t always favor the track and field stars. Sometimes it should favor the big boys that can go in the mud. Occasional randomness makes the game more interesting.
I love snow games and think that they should stay in the game. With that said, what's interesting about the snow argument is that everyone is up in arms about field conditions when it comes to AstroTurf and injuries but playing on skates in the freezing cold is acceptable
@AdamKlownzinger Turf is a decision to put a little padding on concrete and then tackle people on it. Grass in snow just causes bad footing. Also, over half the cold weather outdoor fields have heated fields so they never freeze for the safety of the players.
@@kristopherloviska9042 They aren't trying to sell 70,000 Tickets at Hundreds of Dollars per seat. Domes are perfectly legit. If you want things in the cold...that's fine. Nobody wants to be sitting in the heat or humidity in Houston or New Orleans or Arizona or Dallas in September.
So, you expect the nfl to compensate for the lost revenue they won't be able to make during winter for concerts and events? Dont be silly. Cleveland and Chicago are getting roofs because it makes economic sense.
Chris Brockman couldn’t stand one day playing any football let alone in inclement weather. He should stick to his BBQ grill and Beer and leave football comments to the ones who have played it!
Last night's game is the prime example of why home field advantage is important. If you made everyone play in a dome that would absolutely negate that advantage. SF had their chances early, but once McCaffrey went down the game went full into the favor of the Bills. The Bills executed better under adverse conditions, and it was a blowout. As to the question of was it fun to watch, it was until the game wasn't competitive. Bills fans had to be loving every minute of it. 49ers fans not so. If the Bills overtake the Chiefs and get homefield it will be tough for the AFC, but it is why the games are played. Bills look tough but they looked tough last year to fight and get in the playoffs too, what matters is when the post season starts until then it is just week-to-week.
Haven't watched this yet, but I wonder if it was intentional to make this week's version exactly 44 minutes and 38 seconds long to match the score of the Steelers-Bengals game. If so, I love it!
@ the bills got blown out by the ravens 35-10. I hope the bills get to play the Steelers in the playoffs this year. The rebuild is complete. Allen wouldn’t survive in the afc north.
@@souldoc303 it’s great getting the last laugh now for sure. Everyone riding the bills when they are 1-2 against afc playoff teams. Could you imagine if the Steelers got blown out 35-10 by the ravens.
It might be just because I am a Packers fan, but looking back at my favourite games of all time, most of them involved teams fighting the elements as well as each other. BTW, You will never get the board of governors to agree to put a lid on Lambeau!
@tkurz3071 they play 3 or 4 games a year: Winter Classic, Heritage Classic, Stadium Series and others outdoors and in open-air arenas. Often it snows but they dont usually want lakefront-levels of snow..
I love the visual too much of playing in the snow. Also, you wouldn’t be just getting rid of the snow. You’d be getting rid of rain games, and really really hot or cold games. Every game would have the same exact weather conditions, and that’s extremely bland, and that’s not football. You don’t get the Ice Bowl without the Ice.
Dan Campbell has more injuries to starters than any other team in the top 5. Dan Campbell being able to not miss a beat and keep winning is why he is Coach of the Year.
@@amberreed4443 I think it’s also the fact that he’s coaching the historically terrible Lions’ best season of all time. and towards possibly the 1-seed (for the first time) as well
Lions would've made the superbowl last year if Dan Campbell was a better in game coach. The Lions had higher expectations this year than almost anyone. No one expected Minnesota to have more than 6-7 wins all year and they're 1 game behind the Lions, after having 1 player die and losing a starting CB and their QB to injury before the season even started. Kevin O'Connell has a way better case than Dan Campbell.
@@MrSchwank111 Campbell was just doing what he was known for succeeding in all season (going on 4th) & his guys choked. Which is why they have a different + more reliable team this year. Even with that, to have this comeback and somehow put Goff in MVP convos and have a tied record with the reigning SB champs says a lot. He should’ve won last year after getting them to the NFCC game for the first time.
@@MrSchwank111 Common dude - JJ was not the starting QB. He was QB3 on the depth chart and probably would still be there given the way Sam has played. He might still be QB2 on the bench this time next year.
Steelers fan here. You do not throw Justin Tucker under the bus because he's having a bad stretch. The guy has bailed the Ravens out many times. Decide after the season.
Here's why you don't start Penix to "save the season", it's highly likely he won't and then it'll be his and his fault alone that the season was wrecked. There'd then be those calling for Kirk to stay on and Penix to ride the bench for another year again, because again Penix was brought in to "save the season" and he couldn't. No let the season's success or failure stay with Kirk Cousins, when the Falcons are out of the race then bring in Penix and say good bye permanently to Cousins in a clean break for all involved. Handing a rookie a QB another QBs mess and saying "fix it" with 5 games to go is horribly unfair, a nearly perfect way to sabotage his career before it even begins.
Sorry, but McCaffrey was hurt before he even touched the snowy field in Buffalo. Football is made to be played in the snow and cold. I wish him a speedy recovery going forward in his career 🙏
Brockman, there’s a point where your statements go from intriguing to absolute idiocy and when you said “Russel Wilson is playing better than Jared Goff” was that point.
Its so funny because in my media bubble, everyone was raving about the Browns vs. Steelers snow game. Its so romantic to play in the elements; its a huge part of the ethos of the game imo.
As a football player, lineman, in SoCal, we wanted some kind of wet weather. Rain, snow, anything that would give us mud. The only weather we ALL hated was a cold wind...
Not agreeing football outside in winter is bad. In the case of the Dec 1, 2024 SF vs. Buffalo game. I think the critical issue is frozen snow-covered _artificial_ turf. Hopefully the new stadium will resolve that.
Teams should not be forced in domes. First, we would need to fully get rid of turf before we ever even think of domes. Turf causes significant injury concerns, not only for the lower body, but also for concussions as the ground (turf) is much much harder compared to natural grass fields
As a Lions fan, Lions schedule is way harder than the Eagles for the rest of the season. The Eagles barely have to show up to win out. And the Lions have a ton of injuries.
I was at the 1977 Grey Cup game in Montreal's Olympic Stadium at -40F and C. Montreal won 41-6 if I remember correctly, and Montreal had to use staples to get traction. Hell yes! Weather and football go together.
Lions beat teams by 40, 50 points "Your suppose to beat them their a bad team." (Even though other tams barely beat them). Lions Beat a division opponent in a "close" game. Their lacking, the eagles are better.. what?? No matter what the lions do (10 game win streak) it gets watered down lol.
@@tjgray88 it doesn’t make any sense?? Even before the Texans game people were doubting Goff (who was beating records left + right every week) and then they used the 5 INTs as an excuse to call him bad. Even tho 2 of those INTs weren’t his fault, and 1 was a Hail Mary. Week after that he has a perfect game with 4 TDs. But because there have been “close games” he’s all of a sudden not a good QB??
@@jonathanwinston9958 1) it’s really just a QB award, unfortunately. 2) Eagles can succeed without Saquan, and have. They were already a Super Bowl team. Bills are nothing without Allen.
It'll be back and forth for the next 5 weeks, but I think Saquon showed well against the #2 rush defense yesterday. Four of the Eagles' remaining opponents are in the bottom 6 in the league vs the run. I believe he'll get Dickerson's record and MVP
Every other win is purely based on skill + coaching so idk why people are all of a sudden calling them frauds lol the Chiefs have had dumb luck games every week
Dolphins don't have room to complain about cold weather when their stadium is built to give the opposing team heat stroke.
Seriously, the cheaters designed that. It's not even just the elements. They designed hard coc/< to focus the heat
Right? I was gonna say that too. That's more dangerous than playing in snow, the wind, and the cold.
Stahp. They aren't "cheating." It's homefield advantage. @jamesrautenstrauch9416
San Diego Chargers game when I saw a kid. Crazy that team then went to the ice bowl and almost won the next weekend.
that is true. You must be a Jets fan
"Get rid of snow games in football" may be the worst football take of all time. As a player and as a fan, snow football will always be peak football.
At that point they should just move football season to the summer. That way you don't have to worry about "bad weather" and the flashy teams can play I'm their dry, sterile stadiums in 100+ degree heat. Because after all THAT isn't an unfair advantage that diminishes the game, right? It's not like Miami intentionally designed their stadium and uniforms to give their opponents a heat stroke, right guys? Oh wait....
The actual worst take ever. Brockman is smokin something a little too good.
It's fun...but not peak. It's way less likely to produce the best plays or performances...lots of slipping and sliding and funny pics though.
@@davidc2838 I agree, fun but it's hardly peak.
It is peak because it's something different, its rare and its vintage. Everything needs contrast. If it was all perfect conditions and high performance offense, zero defense, all the time, we'd get bored with it. The NBA for instance. "When everyone is super, no one will be." - The Incredibles @@eddiewinehosen6665
I LOVE watching football in the snow. The elements are part of football.
I was just about to type the exact same thing. And Brockman calls himself a patriots fan? We don't claim this in mass.
Snow games are by far the best games to watch!
It's the only sport that allows the weather to be a factor!
Dudes. Yes! Football Weather!
@x3ch4nt3d6 exactly this. I went to the Jets game at the end of the year last year not because I wanted to watch Bill Belichick's send off, not because the team was even watchable (because they werent) but because it was a snow game in Foxboro and that's everything new England football is about
The snow and weather didn't seem to keep Buffalo from playing their best....
Also, the Super Bowl isn't played in nice weather cities or domes for the quality of the game. It is played there because they know that the corporate sponsors and random, just want to be there millionaires who buy the tickets months in advance won't show up for a game in miserable weather like last night, even if it still leads to beautiful football.
If you grew up in cold weather city you loved playing football in the snow.
Yeah, I didn’t see Chris complaining when the Colts had to play all those cold weather games at Foxborough…..
100% right
I love a good snow game, the Browns game recently was entertainment gold (for lots of reasons and not just the snow). But a Super Bowl, at somewhere like Green Bay or Buffalo, in the super cold or deep snow would be a travesty.
@@ShimmyD-u7g Yeah you're right, noone would remember the Ice Bowl with 50,000 fans and one of the ballsiest coaching decisions in NFL history with a QB sneak to win it for a legacy franchise in the Packers vs the Cowboys.
To be brutally honest I understand the reason behind a "neutral field" and planning the SB location years in advance. But I don't see a bad weather game as a bad thing for the sport as say, watching a New England Rams game that went 13-3 that was completely uninteresting. A fan that is willing to spend thousands to 10's of thousands on a SB ticket is, I'd imagine, all in regardless.
"who loves watching tippy-toe football in the snow?"
Uhhh... Me. That was entertaining as hell
One of the highest-scoring snow games I can recall. Vegas must have won a gazillion dollars on that one on people betting the under.
Snow games suck.
@@DarthBinky89 JoshAllenOk.gif
Ready for a ban on indoor stadiums, eh, except for Phoenix and Las Vegas.
I was entertained.
you know who wasn't "tippy-toeing in the snow?" Born and raised in Miami, played at Georgia James Cook. He had the 7th fastest top speed in the NFL this season, per next gen stats, on his 65 yard TD run... on a film of snow. That was absurd
McCaffery as well.
@@christopherwelch136 RIP
He was spectacular.
I've loved him since last season, and he has only continued to prove himself! 😍
Football started in the “Northern” States weather is apart of the game period yes my team has been in a dome for fifty plus years but we built to play outside 🦁 1️⃣ pride
Chris' snow/weather take is the only take in this show's history that has actually made me mad. Football in the elements is AMAZING to watch.
Nah, it's not!
@@REE_III : Yes, it is. And you're in the minority of you believe otherwise. Best bet used to weather playing a factor in football, because it's here to stay 🤷♂️
I'll take it one step further: bring back grass! Two things that will never happen cause the NFL is a parasitic money-sucking monopoly
"All stadiums should be domes"?!
Brockman, you owe the game an apology.
Outstanding idea Brockman, there should be an outdoor superbowl. I recommend Buffalo or Green Bay to get the real experience
There have been plenty of outdoor Super Bowls. The LA Coliseum, The Rose Bowl, Giants Stadium NJ, Miami Orange Bowl, Tampa Bay Stadium, and Louisiana before the Superdome. As a matter of fact, more Super Bowls have been played outdoors than not.
@@lagodifuoco313 I think meant actually cold outdoor stadiums.
I think the NFL is gonna give us a Lambeau Super Bowl for Super Bowl 100 as a once in a lifetime event going to basically the capital of football
@@waltercampbell9787 By that time the world might be warm enough in Feb for a SB game in GB.
@@waltercampbell9787Lol the "capital" of football. Green bay and the county it's in is a joke. It will never ever ever ever happen. Nor would it ever have the infrastructure to support an actual living population. It all mouth breathers up there
It's because gamblers hate an extra, unexpected, twist to their bets
Which mental patient bets on a snow game.
Yup. You've gotta anticipate that a December game in Buffalo could be a snow game and bet with that in mind though, so I don't feel too bad for them. 😏
@@techguymarkiiChris brockman obviously
@@techguymarkii PLENTY of people bet on everything.
@@techguymarkii I did, and i woulda hit my 6-leg parlay had CMC not been injured by the snow
Who would have thought that Kurt Warner, who played most of his career in a dome in St Louis and in the desert in Arizona, would hate cold weather football.
And it’s ironic he lost 2 super bowls to teams that play outside that had to play in cold conditions to get to the superbowl as in the patriots and Steelers 😂😂
6:25 of all the bad takes on this show that one was the worst. Snow games are the pinnacle of football. When motion, trickery, and finesse are replaced with strength, will, and the desire to win.
Yeah, that was absolutely the worst take I have ever seen. How does he consider himself a pats fan and hate on snow games? Ugh.
I'm biased as a Packer fan, but I feel it's part of the home field advantage. Some stadiums are acoustically louder than others....should they regulate that too? Pump cheering through the speakers at quieter stadiums? What about the field? Should ALL fields be made of the same turf or same strain of grass?
I could go on, but you get the idea.
Ballet recitals are indoors. Dudes bludgeoning each other happens outside. It’s a great element of the sport.
Someone send Kurt Warner to Mars. Snow games are amazing.
Mars is too cold... Venus has too high air pressure... better make it Mercury.
Kurt hates snow games cause he sucks outside of the dome
He’s a qb he wants it 72 and balmy so it’s easier to grip/throw the ball. Biased
Space travel is all bullshit. Never happened. We have a Firmament above us.
I will be so sad if we lose weather games. Snow games and monsoon games are awesome
Get used to it... More teams are building domes because it's more financially lucrative.
Titans are doing that, I think the bengals want to but Hamilton county doesn’t want to pay for it. It sadly is trending that way, GB is safe.
IMO, snow games and bad weather games are a lot of fun to watch.
I love that there are still non-domed teams up north
Agreed. And as entertaining as the snow games are, I absolutely love watching games being played in the rain.
The take on snow games is horrible, Snowy and inclimate weather games are what football is all about
Maybe, but a little lightning?
💯
@brandonhampton3434
it’s “inclement” weather, not “inclimate”. As in not showing clemency (mercy or mildness)
Exactly. And what about playing in Florida at the beginning of the year or in Seattle where it's always raining? Snow is the most noticeable but it's just one of many things players and coaches have to plan for and work around
@@nickdarr7328 The winds in Chicago as well right?
Kurt Warner, Brockman, and the entire Dolphins team are softer than room temperature butter. It's called football weather for a reason.
I grew up in Alaska and Maine. I'm assuredly not soft but doing anything in freezing cold sucks, if you think otherwise you're just a moron. -Brockman
@@RichEisenShow I guess I'm a moron then, because we were having a real good time last night.
Also you didn't choose where you grew up, you chose where you fled too. Soft.
@@RichEisenShowno one is saying it’s easy lol it’s football. It shouldn’t be easy or comfortable
100% He better be fucking thankful for Weather... He's precious Pats wouldn't have 2 of their SBS without Weather !
Wait am I mixing up my timing or is brockman responding during the flagship? 💀
Didn’t it snow on both teams? Purdy played in Iowa. It was 17 degrees in Iowa today.
Purdy wasn't the only one slipping and sliding on snow on the niners
So. They had no chance had it been 65 degrees and clear skies. Brock Purdy vs Josh Allen is like a cat vs a pitbull.
There are certain NFL teams that should not have a dome.
Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Denver, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Chicago, New England,
Why should the Vikings and Lions have domes to play in but not the Bears and Peckers?
@@michaelmanwiller1869 explained please. I don’t know what your saying.
I would add New York, Arizona, Minnesota, Miami, Jacksonville, Carolina, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, Las Vegas, Houston, Washington, Tennessee, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Dallas, Tampa, and Atlanta.
@@thegrinch7989 omg you basically name almost every nfl teams. Are you just trolling now?
@@michaelmanwiller1869because their fans don’t want a lame dome, and Bud Grant himself hated losing that home field advantage in Minnesota in 1980, he missed playing in the Old Metropolitan Stadium
if the Super Bowl is Buffalo vs Philly im not sure New Orleans will be able to survive both of those fanbases at the same time😅
Lol
Considering how many other Eagles fans would be running into posts in the subway, that would be hilarious.
Snow games are almost exclusively for the viewer experience and not meant to be optimized for the best athletic conditions. This is one of the only major outdoor sports that still happens in winter months, and non-team fans are mesmorized by how cool the snow games are
NHL does have its stadium games a few times a year. So it's not exclusive to NFL
If his name wasn't Justin Tucker he would have been cut five mins after the game.
The hate Chris has for Goff and the Lions is ridiculous
him + nick wright should just get together and do their own separate show about how much they don’t like Goff / the lions bc it’s annoying to hear every time the team is brought up lol
Agree. Goff played great. WTF 🫤. And the Steelers didn't even have a touchdown for two games
@@jazzlyn1891except he hates the Chiefs just as well so that would not go too well
Chris hates the Vikings too. Packers are Third in the division and Vikings are more relevant than the Packers. I think he’s a closet Packers sympathizer
I'm sorry Brockman, but snow games rule! I love them, most fans love them, some of the most memorable games in history have been in the snow.
Detroit had one close game and all of a sudden the Eagles are playing better?
yeah not like the eagles have squeaked out wins
Remember when they only won by four to Deshaun Watson? Without Saquon they have nothing. Hurts and Saquons rushing threat is the only thing keeping their offense moving. Take that away and they crumble.
May not be better, but certainly healthier and have way more high end talent than the Lions. Lions are consistent across the board tho.
Injuries are becoming unsustainable for the Lions. They've stemmed the tide well but the injuries are starting to pile up for the defense, and the season ending injuries are real killers.
@@casualwater698 they already beat the narrative that they would lose when hutch got hurt, since then they haven’t lost. Chiefs got all the benefit of the doubt until they lost, well Lions still haven’t since week 2
One of the best Eagles or Lions game was the snow game a decade ago. It was fun for the players and the fans! The best classic games were GB and KC ... the frozen tundra of both of those stadiums in insane!
These 2 are the most entertaining husband and wife on the internet lol
Love the snow so much.... Give us a cold snow super bowl
They still talk about the Ice Bowl all these years later.
Bad-weather football is excellent and should NEVER go away. The chiefs-dolphins game in the playoffs last year where Mahomes' helmet literally shattered because it was so cold and brittle was effing electric. The browns and bills games the last two weeks were also phenomenal.
I dunno, watching Brock Purdy fumble a throw without being touched was pretty hilarious...
There have been some phenomenal snow games in the history of the NFL. As a Eagles' fan, I remember an awesome game between the Eagles versus the Lions in Philly. Shady McCoy was amazing in that snowy game.
Shady McCoy what a game. I can't remember some SBs, but I remember that game.
Regarding those complaining about football in bad weather; WHY DO YOU INSIST ON REMOVING DRAMA FROM THE SPORT!? Ever think that one of the reasons that Allen TD was so amazing was because of the weather? These are the same people who want to get rid of kickers and think the fumble through the end zone shouldn’t be a touch back. Stop trying to remove drama from the sport to pad your fantasy stats.
What?!? Football in the snow is what makes football special!! That was one of the most fun games I’ve ever watched. Come on 😅
That game wasn’t even fun for Bills fans , watching from home, seeing these grown men slipping all over the place. Yea fun, ruined a competitive Sunday night football game.
@@techguymarkiiI'm a Bills fan, and I was thoroughly entertained.🤷🏻♀️ Also, I think the Bills would have pulled ahead by a couple of touchdowns before the end of the game regardless of conditions.
I loved the game in the snow. THAT is football
On the weather front, I'm remembering the 1988 playoff game when the Eagles and Bears played the Fog Bowl in Chicago.
Eagles win that game if not for that fog bank the game should have been stopped until it cleared
So, if I'm hearing Brockman right, he doesn't want his Patriots to have the advantage of Foxborough in the winter for the playoffs?
I'm sure the Packers at end of Rodgers Era wished they played in a Dome. -Brockman
@@RichEisenShow, I'm sure the Packers wished they had a run game for most of the Rodgers era.
@RichEisenShow I bet Peyton Manning wished the Patriots had a dome.
@@RichEisenShow he was talking about Patriots your team…why did you change subject to a different team?
Name a game outside the raiders game where the chiefs didn’t make a play to win the game this year. I’m dead serious Brockman. I’m tired of your BS
I love when Rich puts Blockman in his place...LMAO
Chris...you and Kurt donate all your earnings forever to build all these domes.
The owners should pay not the taxpayers
@@mikeelton3686 You mean the same way the owners should decide if they have a dome or not. Just because you missed my point which is they (chris & kurt) don't pay so they don't have a say.
@@mikeelton3686then taxpayers should choose if they want a dome or not, not Brockman, I bet Packers and Bills fans will not pay for a dome
@travismiller4320 neither fans should , it should be the owners who extort these cities for taxpayer funds and have billions themselves . I've been there many times great atmosphere don't think that would change if they had a dome , I dunno just a thought cheers
Next Chris will argue that all baseball parks should have the same field dimensions
not the same. when the weather sucks, baseball postpones! -Brockman
@ thanks for reply, love the show.
Variety is the spice of life. Sometimes in football has weather changes the game. In baseball, a hit with a particular launch angle and EV is a double in one park but a homer in another.
Football shouldn’t always favor the track and field stars. Sometimes it should favor the big boys that can go in the mud. Occasional randomness makes the game more interesting.
Any reason we aren't discussing the Azeez Al-Shaair hit on Trevor Lawrence? This seems a little odd.
Dude should be suspended until Lawrence is cleared. REALLY DIRTY HIT!
I love snow games and think that they should stay in the game. With that said, what's interesting about the snow argument is that everyone is up in arms about field conditions when it comes to AstroTurf and injuries but playing on skates in the freezing cold is acceptable
Because those arent the same thing. One of those things is just a fact of life and the other (astroturf) is a self-inflicted and manufactured wound.
@AdamKlownzinger Turf is a decision to put a little padding on concrete and then tackle people on it. Grass in snow just causes bad footing. Also, over half the cold weather outdoor fields have heated fields so they never freeze for the safety of the players.
no domed stadiums should be allowed in the nfl.
all fields real grass.
weather games rule.
eh, the heat in Vegas/AZ/ GA etc would be pretty nasty in September
@@jayg1438 HS teams play in those cities during that time. So do college teams.
@@kristopherloviska9042 They aren't trying to sell 70,000 Tickets at Hundreds of Dollars per seat. Domes are perfectly legit. If you want things in the cold...that's fine. Nobody wants to be sitting in the heat or humidity in Houston or New Orleans or Arizona or Dallas in September.
So, you expect the nfl to compensate for the lost revenue they won't be able to make during winter for concerts and events? Dont be silly. Cleveland and Chicago are getting roofs because it makes economic sense.
Chris and rich get so into it I love it
Chris Brockman has never been more wrong. Football weather is football weather for a reason. Soft as hell
Chris Brockman couldn’t stand one day playing any football let alone in inclement weather. He should stick to his BBQ grill and Beer and leave football comments to the ones who have played it!
Snow games is the reason I started watching football
Last night's game is the prime example of why home field advantage is important. If you made everyone play in a dome that would absolutely negate that advantage. SF had their chances early, but once McCaffrey went down the game went full into the favor of the Bills. The Bills executed better under adverse conditions, and it was a blowout. As to the question of was it fun to watch, it was until the game wasn't competitive. Bills fans had to be loving every minute of it. 49ers fans not so. If the Bills overtake the Chiefs and get homefield it will be tough for the AFC, but it is why the games are played. Bills look tough but they looked tough last year to fight and get in the playoffs too, what matters is when the post season starts until then it is just week-to-week.
I enjoy watching football when they play in the snow it’s awesome to watch.
Haven't watched this yet, but I wonder if it was intentional to make this week's version exactly 44 minutes and 38 seconds long to match the score of the Steelers-Bengals game. If so, I love it!
Bills are 1-2 against AFC playoff teams. The Steelers are 5-0
Remember everyone saying in the first half of season, who have the Steelers played? Uhh all the playoff teams 😂😂😂
Now show Allen against Mike Tomlin in his career…
@ how about compare rings.
@ the bills got blown out by the ravens 35-10. I hope the bills get to play the Steelers in the playoffs this year. The rebuild is complete. Allen wouldn’t survive in the afc north.
@@souldoc303 it’s great getting the last laugh now for sure. Everyone riding the bills when they are 1-2 against afc playoff teams. Could you imagine if the Steelers got blown out 35-10 by the ravens.
It might be just because I am a Packers fan, but looking back at my favourite games of all time, most of them involved teams fighting the elements as well as each other. BTW, You will never get the board of governors to agree to put a lid on Lambeau!
Browns Steelers in the snowglobe last Thursday was amazing to watch....loved it!!!
7:30 Hockey is a team sport, Rich. We dont shy away from snow games.
Hockey isnt my forte, but how many teams play in open air arenas?
@tkurz3071 they play 3 or 4 games a year: Winter Classic, Heritage Classic, Stadium Series and others outdoors and in open-air arenas. Often it snows but they dont usually want lakefront-levels of snow..
@@pretzelhunt alright, thanks for a legitimate answer. I appreciate the info.
Isn't professional hockey played indoors?
@@6foot7natiboy no
My overreaction:
Kicking will cost a team a playoff win
Not an overreaction, it happens all the time.
The snow game was fun to watch even in a blowout. We need more outdoor games not less.
Absolutely love this show, one of my favorite parts of every week.
The headline we overreact to next week:
Indy is winning the AFC South
Chris is a secret weapon that has been unleashed and I am so here for it. Love you 2. Keep it up. Much love! Happy holidays!!
I want a Super Bowl in the snow.
I had fun! I loved watching it! It was the most fun and funniest thing! What a great game!
Wilson over Goff? wtf……..
Stupid take
I love the visual too much of playing in the snow. Also, you wouldn’t be just getting rid of the snow. You’d be getting rid of rain games, and really really hot or cold games. Every game would have the same exact weather conditions, and that’s extremely bland, and that’s not football.
You don’t get the Ice Bowl without the Ice.
Dan Campbell has more injuries to starters than any other team in the top 5. Dan Campbell being able to not miss a beat and keep winning is why he is Coach of the Year.
Tomlin did that for years and never won coach of the year for that. He’s expected to win regardless even if that’s unfair.
@@amberreed4443 I think it’s also the fact that he’s coaching the historically terrible Lions’ best season of all time. and towards possibly the 1-seed (for the first time) as well
Lions would've made the superbowl last year if Dan Campbell was a better in game coach. The Lions had higher expectations this year than almost anyone. No one expected Minnesota to have more than 6-7 wins all year and they're 1 game behind the Lions, after having 1 player die and losing a starting CB and their QB to injury before the season even started. Kevin O'Connell has a way better case than Dan Campbell.
@@MrSchwank111 Campbell was just doing what he was known for succeeding in all season (going on 4th) & his guys choked. Which is why they have a different + more reliable team this year. Even with that, to have this comeback and somehow put Goff in MVP convos and have a tied record with the reigning SB champs says a lot. He should’ve won last year after getting them to the NFCC game for the first time.
@@MrSchwank111 Common dude - JJ was not the starting QB. He was QB3 on the depth chart and probably would still be there given the way Sam has played. He might still be QB2 on the bench this time next year.
Rich’s Ryan Day segment is pure gold this is why hes one of the best in the biz still got that fastball 😂
Steelers fan here. You do not throw Justin Tucker under the bus because he's having a bad stretch. The guy has bailed the Ravens out many times. Decide after the season.
These guys have great chemistry. They really struck gold with this segment!
Here's why you don't start Penix to "save the season", it's highly likely he won't and then it'll be his and his fault alone that the season was wrecked. There'd then be those calling for Kirk to stay on and Penix to ride the bench for another year again, because again Penix was brought in to "save the season" and he couldn't. No let the season's success or failure stay with Kirk Cousins, when the Falcons are out of the race then bring in Penix and say good bye permanently to Cousins in a clean break for all involved. Handing a rookie a QB another QBs mess and saying "fix it" with 5 games to go is horribly unfair, a nearly perfect way to sabotage his career before it even begins.
Agreed. They should’ve considered it some weeks ago in my opinion. Kirk is inconsistent + goes back and forth between being good and bad
For most casual NFL fans, they would prefer a snow game.
17 minutes late today Rich, my break ends in 10 minutes
lol Brockman's Chiefs takes definitely not coming from a feeling of panic
Sorry, but McCaffrey was hurt before he even touched the snowy field in Buffalo. Football is made to be played in the snow and cold. I wish him a speedy recovery going forward in his career 🙏
Brockman, there’s a point where your statements go from intriguing to absolute idiocy and when you said “Russel Wilson is playing better than Jared Goff” was that point.
Goff is 11/1. But wins don't count for Goff.
Its so funny because in my media bubble, everyone was raving about the Browns vs. Steelers snow game. Its so romantic to play in the elements; its a huge part of the ethos of the game imo.
As a football player, lineman, in SoCal, we wanted some kind of wet weather. Rain, snow, anything that would give us mud.
The only weather we ALL hated was a cold wind...
Not agreeing football outside in winter is bad. In the case of the Dec 1, 2024 SF vs. Buffalo game. I think the critical issue is frozen snow-covered _artificial_ turf. Hopefully the new stadium will resolve that.
Teams should not be forced in domes. First, we would need to fully get rid of turf before we ever even think of domes. Turf causes significant injury concerns, not only for the lower body, but also for concussions as the ground (turf) is much much harder compared to natural grass fields
I would absolutely hate more teams getting away with terrible turf like Metlife does. That stuff is a killer.
Freezing cold take there Brockman. Pardon the pun. It will be a sad day when the domes fully take over
Brockmam putting Russ over Goff made me lose confidence in any future take
I love snow games! Do NOT steal my snow games!!! I want a snow game Superbowl!
As a Lions fan, Lions schedule is way harder than the Eagles for the rest of the season. The Eagles barely have to show up to win out. And the Lions have a ton of injuries.
You guys are great
Games played outdoors in all conditions should be required. Ban domes!
I was at the 1977 Grey Cup game in Montreal's Olympic Stadium at -40F and C. Montreal won 41-6 if I remember correctly, and Montreal had to use staples to get traction. Hell yes! Weather and football go together.
I loved the Buffalo Bills game
My favorite vid every week! 😆
I'm tired of Brockman's overlooking of the Lions.
Half character, half book judged by its own cover at your own peril. On the spot genius description.
18:24 Russell Wilson has not been playing better than Jared Goff what is Brockman on about
I love watching bad weather football. I played in it and it was fun.
Soccer is played in the snow!!!
Lions beat teams by 40, 50 points "Your suppose to beat them their a bad team." (Even though other tams barely beat them).
Lions Beat a division opponent in a "close" game. Their lacking, the eagles are better.. what??
No matter what the lions do (10 game win streak) it gets watered down lol.
Brockman has a strong dislike for the Lions. It's clear at this point.
@@tjgray88 it doesn’t make any sense?? Even before the Texans game people were doubting Goff (who was beating records left + right every week) and then they used the 5 INTs as an excuse to call him bad. Even tho 2 of those INTs weren’t his fault, and 1 was a Hail Mary. Week after that he has a perfect game with 4 TDs. But because there have been “close games” he’s all of a sudden not a good QB??
As a new fan of NFL, snow games are FUN to watch
Josh Allen 2024 MVP
Nope Barkley
echochamber
@@jonathanwinston9958 1) it’s really just a QB award, unfortunately. 2) Eagles can succeed without Saquan, and have. They were already a Super Bowl team. Bills are nothing without Allen.
Josh Allen deserves an MVP.
It'll be back and forth for the next 5 weeks, but I think Saquon showed well against the #2 rush defense yesterday. Four of the Eagles' remaining opponents are in the bottom 6 in the league vs the run. I believe he'll get Dickerson's record and MVP
Tucker should've never tried to screw around with Mahomes and Kelce.
I love watching football in the snow. In fact, I think there should be NO dome.
💯
Snow games are sloppy. I agree with Kurt Warner
I miss muddy games
Snow games are sick. Bills can adapt to play in the snow, just shows who the juggernauts are
Lions have had 1 dumb luck game
Every other win is purely based on skill + coaching so idk why people are all of a sudden calling them frauds lol the Chiefs have had dumb luck games every week
Been waiting all morning 😂
Love snow games. Part of what makes football special.
No one can play in the snow? The bills scored 31 right? So someone can play in the snow.
*35
and the Browns scored 24 in the snow vs PIT earlier this year, the Browns