3 mm was original spec but through vehicle and material design and development the new spec 1.8 mm doors and 1.4 body were achieved. Thanks for your excellent content.
3mm seemed too thick (and heavy). I need to find the original source, I thought I wrote it in my notes after watching an interview with a Tesla engineer.
@@harumaronnet1709 whiplash is whiplash… you can’t have more or less whiplash unless you die then it’s just a broken neck. Cybertruck crash test also confirmed it’s not any less safe than a normal car.
All the Cybertruck parts (explosion schema) are available in Tesla parts catalog. Wade mode might have similar overoptimization caveat, as all Teslas with heat pump AC (if your AC fails, you can not drive it as battery cooling is sub par). And it is for traversing maximum 100 ft - according to Tesla
It's not just the thickness, but the hardness. This steel is wicked strong. Just check out the car review videos where a big dude is smashing on the door as hard as he can with a 20lb sledge hammer and only manages to make a small, barely visible scuff. Before Tesla tempers the steel, or if it was typical car body steel, the hammer would probably leave a 2" deep, hammer-shaped dent. If it was aluminum it would go right through. All that being said, the extraction equipment fire departments use will definitely get through it. I've seen jaws of life in action and those can chomp through almost anything.
Thing that scares me is fact that windows are laminated - a fire inside cab that disorients an owner and windows are hard to break people will perish. There are accounts of Tesla owners breaking glass to escape fires.
@@StacheDTraining yeah the move from tempered glass to laminated doesn’t seem like a good thing when trying to get out of a car where doors are blocked. I guess the one good thing is that in rollovers it may prevent people from being ejected or arms being crushed.
A 17 year old male driver was apparently taking the twisting two lane mountain road too fast, predictably lost control, hit a berm on his right and caromed off it and into the side of a Cybertruck. Probably that 17 year old was extremely lucky, otherwise he keeps going off the other side of the road.
You should ask Sandy Munro to show you the giga-castings... he has dis-assembled Teslas and knows how they're put together, so will know how to best take them apart.
I'm trying to see the spreaders (maybe combi tool) you're holding in the thumbnail. My squad uses Lukas eDraulic gen 1 and 2 tools. Big investment for a non funded volunteer organisation, but we had Lukas hydraulic tools for a long time and the decision to stay with them was easy enough. They're so powerful, although considerably heavier than the old tools.
Um...what about the fact that most accidents trigger the main power disconnect? Since those doors are opened electronically, EVERY accident will require a Sawzall to get in (doors can't be opened mechanically from the outside). Also, the construction allows for explosive gasses to collect, should the batteries fail and begin to burn. There are A LOT of safety issues that were not considered when this thing was designed. Hopefully you won't get blinded by the gizmos and will be able to cover all of them, BEFORE these things are loose around our families on the open road. FSD in their other vehicles is bad enough. Now they made a juggernaut version.
@StacheDTraining Unfortunately, as evidenced by the Hollywood fire, the driver had to break their window to get out, and the car hadn't even been in an accident. The main thing affected, was the main battery pack. So it would appear as though a fault or problem with main battery pack power affects ALL powered systems.
I think you forgot a crucial concern. The sharp edges made of steel could easily dismember and maim pedestrians hit by it. Hence, why it is not legal in the EU. The reason vehicles are rounded is to promote rebound force not lacerating force. The angles of the cybertruck are terrifying and fail every pedestrian safety test. It is a guillotine on wheels.
I think also to mention that with the steer by wire there is no mechanical linkage to the steering. Therefore I think the importance of lifting the Dashboard up is much lower than with any other vehicle.
I wonder if Tesla have done any pedestrian collision testing on this one. With all of those square edges it doesn't look like the probable impact on pedestrians has been given proper consideration.
In most cases the vehicles ability to avoid hitting the pedestrian is way better as the pedestrian safety standards are idiotic you can save more lives by spending money on walking bridges
Stop this narrative now. Getting hit by any other trucks or anything with high hooded vehicles will hurt just as bad, or worse. At least the Cybertruck's hood is slanted while others are not.
Any pedestrian hit by a vehicle at speed most likely deserves a 'Darwin Award' but in all honesty a car is the same as a gun, when you start it is a loaded weapon and that should be considered in driver training. This comment may sound calous but I have seen women with their baby in the pram waiting for a cross signal and the pram is actually on the roadway. Then you have idiots looking at their phone while crossing.
I suspected 30 mil, not 3 mm... nope! It really is plate steel, 3mm thick. So it has the shell of a military grade vehicle. But stainless. Can't wait for the "lite" sheet metal version...
Looking forward to seeing a stainless cut test. I had a larger stainless project a few months ago and my jigsaw with carbide blades couldn't get far. New Milwaukee blade and everything. Ended up using a skinny wheel to finish the cut
@@StacheDTraining As soon as the chromium, nickel, copper (and others) start to precipitate due to heat within the steel's micro structure...you're done for. The cutting temperature must be kept to a minimum.
@70stastic Cobalt high speed steel blades are mandatory for austenetic stainless. Carbide is just too brittle. 30 year machinist here. For cutting fluid, nothing beats canola cooking oil or better still, lard oil...
I can't understand why anybody would even want to own that. I would be ashamed to have that sitting in my driveway even if it was an internal combustion engine car. That thing is butt ugly
@@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees To you it is ugly, to others it is different and cool looking. Why are you so butt hurt that it is out and being sold???? Did you lose money from buying tesla shares at high prices and panicked and sold it at a big loss when it dropped???? What is it?
It's polarizing. I love it, personally, but it did take a while to grow on me. I hated it at first. But the more I learned about all its awesome features and the reasoning behind the design (it's completely an exercise in form following function!) the more it grew on me!
I don’t anticipate more than a couple Cybertruck extractions a year. In front the force of a crash has to gat through the thick steel exterior, then the crush cans, then the gigacasting starts crumbling in a designed way to dissipate more energy, and then to actually drive the gigacasting into the passenger space means somehow breaking it off of the connection with the structural battery pack and the passenger compartment frame.,. From the rear you have a six foot long truck bed to get through. From the side…an out of control semi truck or freight train are the two things that might crush the side of the Cybertruck in. Those things will happen very infrequently.
A comment about the graphic showing the weight of various models. An abbreviation should not use the 's' to show a plural as it defeats the purpose of the abbreviation. That's according the the Bureau of Standards or NIST rules about how to write abbreviations. Also, one of units in your video, the pounds (lbs) were shown with the 's', while the kilograms were shown as kg, without the 's'. Not consistent, but at least the 'kg' was correct. And what was even better is that the 'kg' was shown with a lower case 'k' for kilo and not a capital 'K', which would mean kelvin, a temperature unit.
After reviewing there are a few issues it with that graphic. The downside of being a one man operation. For whatever reason I've always interchange lb, lbs, and lbf based on the situation/audience.
@@StacheDTraining Wow! I had no idea your videos are a one-man operation. You do a great job. I know I was picking nit, but thought it might help your graphics person with future videos. I worked for an international Fortune 500 company for 49 years. One of my jobs there was to proof read engineering documents looking for things like those abbreviations. I can't shake myself of the habit.
TSportline was playing around with the suspension and it overheated a couple times. They needed to drive it to cool it. I’m wondering when we can upgrade the compressor
Cycling through the 5 different modes is a lot of work for a 3.3 ton truck. I don't think you'll need to upgrade the compressor though, maybe just thermal glue on an aluminum heat sink to it.
@@StacheDTraining yeah, called the passengers. Did you see the crash tests? There's a reason Tesla cut the videos they shared short... The amount of movement in the dummy is not very reassuring..
@@demcompThe Cybertruck has the same crumple zone construction as the Model Y. A beam with crushcans mounted on the megacasting. It's visible in the factory tour at the Cybertruck launch and in the video where Sandy Munro talks to 5 executives while looking at a lot of details of the car. You are not a carsh test expert, I'm not a crash test expert. But tesla proved with every previous car they are, getting maximum ratings.
@@demcompthe crash rests look like any other truck's crash tests. Not sure what you're talking about. The CT is meticulously designed to crumple exactly the way they want for maximum passenger safety. One of the benefits of the gigacastings is they can design in precise weaknesses in the metal to have it fold in a preplanned oragami/accordian style for maximally controlled crush at various speeds/forces.
@@StacheDTraining John Cadogan has mentioned the methods being developed by the very clever Vikings which use brine instead of fresh water. I'm guessing it's very effective if deployed in the early stages of thermal runaway
The 48 volt system is for everything else but the drive motors. This is what emergency responders would be encountering when cutting through a door or roof.
@@StacheDTraining it does have a small battery that provides a trickle charge when the system is off. But when the Cybertruck is on, it's pulling through an inverter
I was looking forward to at least, a short FYI video from your channel. I believe this will be a safe vehicle as it must be designed per USA crash test standards. However, it is anybody's guess thus far as to how expensive it will be to repair, much worse, how long it will take to repair. The little information is that the castings, unlike steel frames, will "give" by integrity failure. If true, it will be expensive as you can only fix it by replacing the cast. Again, this is hearsay, so take it with a grain of salt. My experience with castings has been that they are either whole or not whole unless it is a corrosion/erosion failure. On the latter, it can get complicated if you do a successful weld build-up because of the difference in grain structure, yield strength, heat stress, etc... I am disappointed that first responders do not have access to essential information on dealing with this vehicle in case of a rescue situation. Safety is always first!
There are "crush cans" that are replaceable. A lower speed crash shouldn't damage the casting. I'm working on getting information on the way the casting behaves in a crash. It'll likely be a standalone video.
@@StacheDTraining Correct. I didn't specify that the castings would come to play in a major impact, not an accident like the one shown. I apologize for my lack of specifics. 👍👍
@@Roddy451the castings are designed to crumple sequentially from the front, back. And they have pre-designed points where you can cut off the damaged part and weld on a new part, which Tesla stocks. Keep in mind a casting isn't replacing a bunch of separate pieces that can just be unscrewed from each other. Regular frames are welded and rivited and bonded together, so if a regular frame gets damaged you repair it the same way - cutting off the damaged part and welding in a new part. The only thing the casting changes is it speeds up and lowers the cost of production.
"I believe this will be a safe vehicle as it must be designed per USA crash test standards" can you tell me if it is so safe that not many other countries of the world allow it on their roads? genuine question, not a troll thing mate, curiosity
@@happyjoyjoy6976 I specifically included "USA" because the reality is that it is a USA-only vehicle. I know this truck will never pass a pedestrian test in other countries. I will be fair and say that it will protect the driver and passengers in a USA collision but will inflict serious damage/injuries to a pedestrian, cyclist, unicyclist, one-wheel operator, skateboarder, phone-looking-zombies, etc. I don't care for trucks as a consumer. They are inefficient and clumsy. If I need one, I just rent it. Last, as a mountain biker, I care about pedestrians, etc, and it is fair game that other countries will not allow this on their roads. The same goes for the Hummer.
лучше скажите как этот мусорный Кибер трак смог успешно пройти тест по безопасности пешеходов?это электро ведро станет настоящим убийцей пешеходов!!!!!!!!!!!
@@StacheDTraining а при чём тут США?это чудовище продаётся по всему миру и судя по его передней части после встречи с пешеходом на скорости около 60 км в час и выше у пешехода не будет никаких шансов на выживание(
@@StacheDTrainingконечно предполагается,там уже очереди на несколько лет, правда только среди (Евангелистов) электро автомобилей,которые в их розовых мечтах спасают мир от углекислого газа))))))))
@@StacheDTrainingoriginally it was going to be 3mm. Everyone thought that right up until the day of the reveal. The panels were originally going to be the entire structure. Instead they've gone with a hybrid approach where the steel panels hold most of the weight, but the internal frame also does a bit of work, too. I guess they found that that would be the best of both worlds. And it means they could go with thinner steel
Sorry Stachce, but who cares about being Bullet proof when the Cyber Urinal is Sh*t in a head on crash rating ... seriously and ps How much does a rear fender cost to replace ???
Great facts and good info, but a few things were wrong. Many non-employee normal people have gotten Cyberturcks. OCDetailing is among them. So far between 500 and 1,000 have been delivered. Some required NDAs is my understanding, probably for people like Jay to get his review/introduction out. Ground clearance in "extract mode" is 17.4in, while "entry" is 6in. As for the hurricane flooding issue, Tesla has actually done a great job with warning drivers, fully charging the cars before emergencies, or optionally discharging the pack and putting the vehicle in low power mode to prevent fire or minimize damage. For Tesla drivers, Superchargers are free during for a week before and week after hurricanes hit land, so utilize that free charging and evacuate if possible.
Unless the Cybertruck crashes into a wall, you need to worry more about the other vehicles involved in the crash. On a serious note, most things on the cybertruck are exectly where they should be. The high voltage cut loop is in the front, under the hood, that disables the 800Volt propulsion battery. The cabin is indistructable, so you probably won't need to cut any of the pillars, just open the doors and/or break the windows.
@@StacheDTrainingFirst gen Model S broke the roof crush test equipment, Cybertruck is much stronger than that, but i have to agree, nothing is 100% foolproof.
@@Poxenium I struggled to find anything except a wired article that claims this. But even if it is true all it says is the equipment wasn't designed to test it. I did find a video from IIHS which showed no problems in the crush equipment doing its job. EVs will need stronger roof structure to support their significantly higher weight in the event of a rollover. The claimed failure of test equipment says nothing about the engineered safety margin for the vehicle.
@@AcButeo No Tesla has ever gotten anything below a perfect score in any rollover test. That said, I saw a g wagon parked on the top of a Model Y after it rear ended that Tesla, and the driver of the Tesla was so confident, they went back into the vehicle to get their valuables. Also, A Tesla looked like it rolled over after falling 250ft off a cliff, but all 4 occupants survived, 2 with only minor cuts and bruising.
bullet proof, well its a bit incorrectly used that terminology, only to a small caliber round is it bullet resistant. its ugly as sin that truck and hardly aero efficient due to its shaping. wouldn't have one if you gave it to me, thankfully it doesn't meet Australian design standards, so wont be seeing one down under anytime soon.
Because of the cybertruck's "indestructible" design all the force casued by the crash get transferred to the people and things with in it. Early cars were much more durable to the extent that they sometimes dent walls without any serious damage to the car but manufacturers moved away from that design because while it was safer for the car, it was deadly to the driver so basically this dangerous abomination musk made is the opposite of revolutionary it's basically devolving the entire craft of making cars it's just an ugly car with a braindead design made electric.
They are just stupid vehicles. The crash test was a fail. Note the rear right wheel falls off in a 35mph frontal crash, and had minimal crumple zones. It would be like crashing a van.
There must be half a dozen fire fighters in my dept on the wait list for this truck. I can’t wait for mine. I’m confident new auto extrication methods will be worked out quickly. One plus I see is the easy of access to a patient through the front window or roof. I bet that triangle frame will need a exceptional amount of energy to deform. Maybe a external airbag can be put in the front bumper for peds.
It *is* waterproof. The "wade mode" is just an added layer of protection for when the battery is going to be intentionally submerged for long periods of time. Even then, any regular EV should be fine, but it's not guaranteed, nor are they really designed to be submerged, though they will likely do better than a regular gas car.
It's not bullet proof , it doesn't have bullet proof glass. I guess you can always try to cut a deal with the bad guys to only shoot at the body. That's how dumb the bullet proof claim is.
The current in normal operation will be less, allowing thinner wiring, which is why this change is being made. But when there's a short circuit, the current will be much greater. More current through a thinner wire means a greater risk of a fire.
@@StacheDTraining I can only find one UA-cam channel belonging to an alleged owner, & he works for tesla in Austin. It's just a marketing gimmick imo & I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this crash was staged. Nothing is as it seems with musk, ever.
That’s funny according to various sources they have delivered about 500 so far and I got an email letting me confirm my order I will hopefully get it asap
There is a Munroe video tour of the production line which shows many hundreds of millions of dollars worth of capital equipment purely for the cybertruck. I think we can count on at least 20,000 - 50,000 produced this year. Ramping up takes time. @@StacheDTraining
This really is Homer simpsons car come to fruition, like what I use to draw in school when I was a child, look at the stupid angles of the side pillars that cut off space in the interior, not to mention they are extreme fire hazards.
Being realistic about the safety fears earned you a sub.
I try to be realistic/neutral about everything.
A hurst tool will make quick work out of the cyber truck. Stainless steel is softer than cold rolled steel.
Cybertrucks aren't reliable they look dangerous for pedestrians and even fire hydrants
The rear suspension looks very weak. As during the crash test the entire rear suspension just collasped upon impact.
Rear steering linkage maybe, not suspension.
3 mm was original spec but through vehicle and material design and development the new spec 1.8 mm doors and 1.4 body were achieved. Thanks for your excellent content.
Thanks! I was struggling to find why I had 3mm in my notes. It was likely from an older interview with Tesla engineers.
1.8mm bulletproof steel. Right... 😂
@@papalegba6796It's bulletproof I think for sub-sonic rounds. Like most pistols. Windows are tougher than normal, but definitely not bullet proof.
@@wemakecookie no 😂
Correction, door panels are 1.8mm(0.07 inch) and rest 1.4mm(0.055 inch) not 3mm.
3mm seemed too thick (and heavy). I need to find the original source, I thought I wrote it in my notes after watching an interview with a Tesla engineer.
@@StacheDTraining Here is from Tesla bullet prove testing engineer comment ua-cam.com/video/teRRk-0KHus/v-deo.html
1.8mm and It is already so tough that makes It bulletproof? Wow
Just imagine if it were actually thicker, like 10mm 😂
@@HwangInhoBooNam so tough? A honda accord totaled it
@@macbook802so what? Still is tough. You think the side armoured panel of an actual tank cannot be bend?
Its interesting that the driver of the 15 year old Corolla was unharmed but the driver of the Cyber truck reported pain
I mean whiplash is still a thing
@@xLopez210xits even more in the tesla.
@@harumaronnet1709 whiplash is whiplash… you can’t have more or less whiplash unless you die then it’s just a broken neck. Cybertruck crash test also confirmed it’s not any less safe than a normal car.
@@xLopez210x In house Tesla testing
@@xLopez210xA vehicle that transmits more of the energy to the passenger compartment will be more likely to cause whiplash.
Those unbreakable glasses turn this into a death trap once your vehicle will fall into water.
Maybe it should be called the Cyber Casket.
Thanks for all your uploads 👍
Glad you like them!
All the Cybertruck parts (explosion schema) are available in Tesla parts catalog.
Wade mode might have similar overoptimization caveat, as all Teslas with heat pump AC (if your AC fails, you can not drive it as battery cooling is sub par). And it is for traversing maximum 100 ft - according to Tesla
They have all there parts listed , getting them is a whole other problem . It took two months to get a headlight assembly for a model S.
The door panels are 1.8mm thick, the others are 1.4mm. Got it from the Sandy Munro factory tour.
It's not just the thickness, but the hardness. This steel is wicked strong. Just check out the car review videos where a big dude is smashing on the door as hard as he can with a 20lb sledge hammer and only manages to make a small, barely visible scuff. Before Tesla tempers the steel, or if it was typical car body steel, the hammer would probably leave a 2" deep, hammer-shaped dent. If it was aluminum it would go right through. All that being said, the extraction equipment fire departments use will definitely get through it. I've seen jaws of life in action and those can chomp through almost anything.
Thing that scares me is fact that windows are laminated - a fire inside cab that disorients an owner and windows are hard to break people will perish. There are accounts of Tesla owners breaking glass to escape fires.
This is something that will eventually be implemented into all vehicles. As of now, many newer vehicles have laminated glass.
@@StacheDTraining yeah the move from tempered glass to laminated doesn’t seem like a good thing when trying to get out of a car where doors are blocked. I guess the one good thing is that in rollovers it may prevent people from being ejected or arms being crushed.
wait, there are only like 5 cybetrucks on the road and someone already crashed it?
A 17 year old male driver was apparently taking the twisting two lane mountain road too fast, predictably lost control, hit a berm on his right and caromed off it and into the side of a Cybertruck. Probably that 17 year old was extremely lucky, otherwise he keeps going off the other side of the road.
You should ask Sandy Munro to show you the giga-castings... he has dis-assembled Teslas and knows how they're put together, so will know how to best take them apart.
I'm trying to see the spreaders (maybe combi tool) you're holding in the thumbnail. My squad uses Lukas eDraulic gen 1 and 2 tools. Big investment for a non funded volunteer organisation, but we had Lukas hydraulic tools for a long time and the decision to stay with them was easy enough. They're so powerful, although considerably heavier than the old tools.
Can the doors be opened manually from the outside?
It doesn't appear that you can. Once I can get hands on the vehicle I will do a video about the manual operations.
With those 2 test crashes at 3:10 I think the extrication method would be a ladle and tongs.
Um...what about the fact that most accidents trigger the main power disconnect? Since those doors are opened electronically, EVERY accident will require a Sawzall to get in (doors can't be opened mechanically from the outside). Also, the construction allows for explosive gasses to collect, should the batteries fail and begin to burn.
There are A LOT of safety issues that were not considered when this thing was designed. Hopefully you won't get blinded by the gizmos and will be able to cover all of them, BEFORE these things are loose around our families on the open road. FSD in their other vehicles is bad enough. Now they made a juggernaut version.
A crash should disable the high voltage battery. The 12v system (which operates the doors) should remain active.
@StacheDTraining Unfortunately, as evidenced by the Hollywood fire, the driver had to break their window to get out, and the car hadn't even been in an accident. The main thing affected, was the main battery pack. So it would appear as though a fault or problem with main battery pack power affects ALL powered systems.
I could not figure out whos spreader you had in the thumbnail. We use Holmatro.
Hurst
I think you forgot a crucial concern. The sharp edges made of steel could easily dismember and maim pedestrians hit by it. Hence, why it is not legal in the EU. The reason vehicles are rounded is to promote rebound force not lacerating force. The angles of the cybertruck are terrifying and fail every pedestrian safety test. It is a guillotine on wheels.
I think also to mention that with the steer by wire there is no mechanical linkage to the steering. Therefore I think the importance of lifting the Dashboard up is much lower than with any other vehicle.
Likely to be the case.
I wonder if Tesla have done any pedestrian collision testing on this one. With all of those square edges it doesn't look like the probable impact on pedestrians has been given proper consideration.
In most cases the vehicles ability to avoid hitting the pedestrian is way better as the pedestrian safety standards are idiotic you can save more lives by spending money on walking bridges
You think getting hit by a Ford F150 or a Hummer would feeel any better?
Stop this narrative now. Getting hit by any other trucks or anything with high hooded vehicles will hurt just as bad, or worse. At least the Cybertruck's hood is slanted while others are not.
@@1flash3571 Wow you're getting real defensive, its still ugly and wrong!
Any pedestrian hit by a vehicle at speed most likely deserves a 'Darwin Award' but in all honesty a car is the same as a gun, when you start it is a loaded weapon and that should be considered in driver training.
This comment may sound calous but I have seen women with their baby in the pram waiting for a cross signal and the pram is actually on the roadway. Then you have idiots looking at their phone while crossing.
Sawzall? Stainless steel? 3mm?...best take a handful of spare blades, some cutting fluid and a very slow cutting speed.
I think you'd be surprised. I'm hoping to do a video in the future with some demonstrations.
I suspected 30 mil, not 3 mm... nope! It really is plate steel, 3mm thick. So it has the shell of a military grade vehicle. But stainless. Can't wait for the "lite" sheet metal version...
Looking forward to seeing a stainless cut test. I had a larger stainless project a few months ago and my jigsaw with carbide blades couldn't get far. New Milwaukee blade and everything. Ended up using a skinny wheel to finish the cut
@@StacheDTraining As soon as the chromium, nickel, copper (and others) start to precipitate due to heat within the steel's micro structure...you're done for. The cutting temperature must be kept to a minimum.
@70stastic Cobalt high speed steel blades are mandatory for austenetic stainless. Carbide is just too brittle. 30 year machinist here. For cutting fluid, nothing beats canola cooking oil or better still, lard oil...
It is actually:
What buyers of Cyber Truck need to know: DO NOT BUY THIS CRAP.
I can't understand why anybody would even want to own that. I would be ashamed to have that sitting in my driveway even if it was an internal combustion engine car. That thing is butt ugly
I happen to love it and as an American I Get to buy one😎
@@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees To you it is ugly, to others it is different and cool looking. Why are you so butt hurt that it is out and being sold???? Did you lose money from buying tesla shares at high prices and panicked and sold it at a big loss when it dropped???? What is it?
It's polarizing. I love it, personally, but it did take a while to grow on me. I hated it at first. But the more I learned about all its awesome features and the reasoning behind the design (it's completely an exercise in form following function!) the more it grew on me!
I don’t anticipate more than a couple Cybertruck extractions a year. In front the force of a crash has to gat through the thick steel exterior, then the crush cans, then the gigacasting starts crumbling in a designed way to dissipate more energy, and then to actually drive the gigacasting into the passenger space means somehow breaking it off of the connection with the structural battery pack and the passenger compartment frame.,.
From the rear you have a six foot long truck bed to get through. From the side…an out of control semi truck or freight train are the two things that might crush the side of the Cybertruck in. Those things will happen very infrequently.
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Very interesting, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Wait until they see the repair costs, ouch!
A comment about the graphic showing the weight of various models. An abbreviation should not use the 's' to show a plural as it defeats the purpose of the abbreviation. That's according the the Bureau of Standards or NIST rules about how to write abbreviations. Also, one of units in your video, the pounds (lbs) were shown with the 's', while the kilograms were shown as kg, without the 's'. Not consistent, but at least the 'kg' was correct. And what was even better is that the 'kg' was shown with a lower case 'k' for kilo and not a capital 'K', which would mean kelvin, a temperature unit.
After reviewing there are a few issues it with that graphic. The downside of being a one man operation. For whatever reason I've always interchange lb, lbs, and lbf based on the situation/audience.
@@StacheDTraining Wow! I had no idea your videos are a one-man operation. You do a great job. I know I was picking nit, but thought it might help your graphics person with future videos. I worked for an international Fortune 500 company for 49 years. One of my jobs there was to proof read engineering documents looking for things like those abbreviations. I can't shake myself of the habit.
@markmiller9838 engineers are the worst when it comes to things like that. 😉
3:10 Extrications? HMOG you would need a sponge. Thank you for your service and I will hope you never have to Extract me.
Damm this sounds like an advertorial.😊
TSportline was playing around with the suspension and it overheated a couple times. They needed to drive it to cool it. I’m wondering when we can upgrade the compressor
Cycling through the 5 different modes is a lot of work for a 3.3 ton truck. I don't think you'll need to upgrade the compressor though, maybe just thermal glue on an aluminum heat sink to it.
@@Flutter9i6 yes! Finally someone that comments solutions, thank you
Pretty sure it's a Corolla, not a Honda at all . 🤷
The part about the CT that bothers me is the lack of crumple zones.
You are correct. It was a Corolla.
The Cybertruck does have crumble zones.
@@StacheDTraining yeah, called the passengers. Did you see the crash tests? There's a reason Tesla cut the videos they shared short...
The amount of movement in the dummy is not very reassuring..
@@demcompThe Cybertruck has the same crumple zone construction as the Model Y. A beam with crushcans mounted on the megacasting. It's visible in the factory tour at the Cybertruck launch and in the video where Sandy Munro talks to 5 executives while looking at a lot of details of the car. You are not a carsh test expert, I'm not a crash test expert. But tesla proved with every previous car they are, getting maximum ratings.
@@demcompthe crash rests look like any other truck's crash tests. Not sure what you're talking about. The CT is meticulously designed to crumple exactly the way they want for maximum passenger safety. One of the benefits of the gigacastings is they can design in precise weaknesses in the metal to have it fold in a preplanned oragami/accordian style for maximally controlled crush at various speeds/forces.
@@demcomp you haven’t seen many crash tests? Maybe stick to commenting on stuff you know about.
Where is your documentation to back up your statements?
the brown envelope mElon slipped under the table contained it 🤣
If you want a bullet proof truck
and safety not sure which safety be best. Guess safe from bullets are good. .But when wreck don't expect much.
Actually, Tesla started delivering Cybertrucks to the public last month. There are a few hundred now on the road.
tha crash test is scary! look hos quickly stops.
This is just my opinion but this Cybertruck looks like an R/C car made extra large.
The Cyber Urinal 😅
Woah woah woah my three f150 crewcab 4wd are 5,200-5,500 we have weighed them multiple times. It ain’t no 6,900
The Lightening is 6800lb, not the ICE version.
Has anyone done any research on using dry ice or liquid Nitrogen to fight EV battery fires?
Specific Heat is the issue. Those products are really bad at absorbing heat.
@@StacheDTraining Thanks. I forgot about specific heat. I was just thinking of cold.
They decided it was unnecessary and that we could continue using internal combustion engines which are better
@@StacheDTraining John Cadogan has mentioned the methods being developed by the very clever Vikings which use brine instead of fresh water. I'm guessing it's very effective if deployed in the early stages of thermal runaway
I discuss that in this video: ua-cam.com/video/VGR-YlpGn8I/v-deo.htmlsi=TKg_GOlAPDfCvMDD
It doesn't have a 48v battery. It's using an inverter with the 800v structural battery pack.
The 48 volt system is for everything else but the drive motors. This is what emergency responders would be encountering when cutting through a door or roof.
@@FlockoftheGreyShepherd which leads to the question. Hoe do you disconnect the 48v system.
In a recent interview, Tesla engineers stated it had a 48v battery.
@@StacheDTraining it does have a small battery that provides a trickle charge when the system is off. But when the Cybertruck is on, it's pulling through an inverter
No worries, if they're still inside, chanses of survival are slim...
I was looking forward to at least, a short FYI video from your channel. I believe this will be a safe vehicle as it must be designed per USA crash test standards. However, it is anybody's guess thus far as to how expensive it will be to repair, much worse, how long it will take to repair.
The little information is that the castings, unlike steel frames, will "give" by integrity failure. If true, it will be expensive as you can only fix it by replacing the cast. Again, this is hearsay, so take it with a grain of salt. My experience with castings has been that they are either whole or not whole unless it is a corrosion/erosion failure. On the latter, it can get complicated if you do a successful weld build-up because of the difference in grain structure, yield strength, heat stress, etc...
I am disappointed that first responders do not have access to essential information on dealing with this vehicle in case of a rescue situation. Safety is always first!
There are "crush cans" that are replaceable. A lower speed crash shouldn't damage the casting. I'm working on getting information on the way the casting behaves in a crash. It'll likely be a standalone video.
@@StacheDTraining Correct. I didn't specify that the castings would come to play in a major impact, not an accident like the one shown. I apologize for my lack of specifics. 👍👍
@@Roddy451the castings are designed to crumple sequentially from the front, back. And they have pre-designed points where you can cut off the damaged part and weld on a new part, which Tesla stocks. Keep in mind a casting isn't replacing a bunch of separate pieces that can just be unscrewed from each other. Regular frames are welded and rivited and bonded together, so if a regular frame gets damaged you repair it the same way - cutting off the damaged part and welding in a new part. The only thing the casting changes is it speeds up and lowers the cost of production.
"I believe this will be a safe vehicle as it must be designed per USA crash test standards" can you tell me if it is so safe that not many other countries of the world allow it on their roads? genuine question, not a troll thing mate, curiosity
@@happyjoyjoy6976 I specifically included "USA" because the reality is that it is a USA-only vehicle. I know this truck will never pass a pedestrian test in other countries. I will be fair and say that it will protect the driver and passengers in a USA collision but will inflict serious damage/injuries to a pedestrian, cyclist, unicyclist, one-wheel operator, skateboarder, phone-looking-zombies, etc.
I don't care for trucks as a consumer. They are inefficient and clumsy. If I need one, I just rent it.
Last, as a mountain biker, I care about pedestrians, etc, and it is fair game that other countries will not allow this on their roads. The same goes for the Hummer.
That cybertruck is a DEATHTRAP
лучше скажите как этот мусорный Кибер трак смог успешно пройти тест по безопасности пешеходов?это электро ведро станет настоящим убийцей пешеходов!!!!!!!!!!!
The USA does not have pedestrian impact standards.
@@StacheDTraining а при чём тут США?это чудовище продаётся по всему миру и судя по его передней части после встречи с пешеходом на скорости около 60 км в час и выше у пешехода не будет никаких шансов на выживание(
Technically, it's not even sold in the US yet. Is it being offered worldwide?
@@StacheDTrainingконечно предполагается,там уже очереди на несколько лет, правда только среди (Евангелистов) электро автомобилей,которые в их розовых мечтах спасают мир от углекислого газа))))))))
CyberTrucks started be delivered on November 30th.
Very limited delivery. There has been no confirmation on the number delivered in December.
Won't have 3mm thick panels. 3mm panel under the batteries would make sense.
You are correct. 1.8mm thick. It was something I wrote in my notes, and I'm not sure where it came from. It's been corrected in the video.
@@StacheDTrainingoriginally it was going to be 3mm. Everyone thought that right up until the day of the reveal. The panels were originally going to be the entire structure. Instead they've gone with a hybrid approach where the steel panels hold most of the weight, but the internal frame also does a bit of work, too. I guess they found that that would be the best of both worlds. And it means they could go with thinner steel
I hope you and other first responders have access to these and other Tesla products, available for you to review, and take apart.
One of the ugliest vehicles ever created
One of the dopiest comments Ive seen repeated.
Sorry Stachce, but who cares about being Bullet proof when the Cyber Urinal is Sh*t in a head on crash rating ... seriously and
ps How much does a rear fender cost to replace ???
Well I got mines already drives great and I feel save.
Thanks for the safety video much needed to watch.
Honda bump attacking again 😂
Take a look at the crash test dummies torso movement, looks like broken neck!
Great facts and good info, but a few things were wrong. Many non-employee normal people have gotten Cyberturcks. OCDetailing is among them. So far between 500 and 1,000 have been delivered. Some required NDAs is my understanding, probably for people like Jay to get his review/introduction out. Ground clearance in "extract mode" is 17.4in, while "entry" is 6in. As for the hurricane flooding issue, Tesla has actually done a great job with warning drivers, fully charging the cars before emergencies, or optionally discharging the pack and putting the vehicle in low power mode to prevent fire or minimize damage. For Tesla drivers, Superchargers are free during for a week before and week after hurricanes hit land, so utilize that free charging and evacuate if possible.
I've seen some unconfirmed reports that 500 were delivered in December. As of now, it's all speculation.
Gigacasts are made of an aluminum alloy so they will burn, unlike vehicles made of steel, and will do it violently
Cast aluminum will melt, not burn.
Unless the Cybertruck crashes into a wall, you need to worry more about the other vehicles involved in the crash.
On a serious note, most things on the cybertruck are exectly where they should be. The high voltage cut loop is in the front, under the hood, that disables the 800Volt propulsion battery.
The cabin is indistructable, so you probably won't need to cut any of the pillars, just open the doors and/or break the windows.
The way people drive, nothing is indestructible.
@@StacheDTrainingFirst gen Model S broke the roof crush test equipment, Cybertruck is much stronger than that, but i have to agree, nothing is 100% foolproof.
@@Poxenium I struggled to find anything except a wired article that claims this. But even if it is true all it says is the equipment wasn't designed to test it. I did find a video from IIHS which showed no problems in the crush equipment doing its job.
EVs will need stronger roof structure to support their significantly higher weight in the event of a rollover. The claimed failure of test equipment says nothing about the engineered safety margin for the vehicle.
@@AcButeo No Tesla has ever gotten anything below a perfect score in any rollover test. That said, I saw a g wagon parked on the top of a Model Y after it rear ended that Tesla, and the driver of the Tesla was so confident, they went back into the vehicle to get their valuables. Also, A Tesla looked like it rolled over after falling 250ft off a cliff, but all 4 occupants survived, 2 with only minor cuts and bruising.
bullet proof, well its a bit incorrectly used that terminology, only to a small caliber round is it bullet resistant. its ugly as sin that truck and hardly aero efficient due to its shaping. wouldn't have one if you gave it to me, thankfully it doesn't meet Australian design standards, so wont be seeing one down under anytime soon.
Looks like it has proprietary tires. Yay
Only if you want to use the stock wheel covers.
@@StacheDTraining ahh ok that's better.
Never seen a cyber truck
Because of the cybertruck's "indestructible" design all the force casued by the crash get transferred to the people and things with in it. Early cars were much more durable to the extent that they sometimes dent walls without any serious damage to the car but manufacturers moved away from that design because while it was safer for the car, it was deadly to the driver so basically this dangerous abomination musk made is the opposite of revolutionary it's basically devolving the entire craft of making cars it's just an ugly car with a braindead design made electric.
Cybertruck still has crush zones and energy absorbing features.
#CYBERRHOMBUS
Naturally you require a bulletproof vehicle in the US of A.
Only in some cities.
They are just stupid vehicles. The crash test was a fail. Note the rear right wheel falls off in a 35mph frontal crash, and had minimal crumple zones. It would be like crashing a van.
I'll do a video to address this in the future. Crash testing looks fairly typical.
The wheels didn't fall off. The vehicle has 4 wheel steering, the rear wheels where articulating on their pivot.
There must be half a dozen fire fighters in my dept on the wait list for this truck.
I can’t wait for mine.
I’m confident new auto extrication methods will be worked out quickly.
One plus I see is the easy of access to a patient through the front window or roof. I bet that triangle frame will need a exceptional amount of energy to deform.
Maybe a external airbag can be put in the front bumper for peds.
It's bullet proof but not water proof 🤔
Nothing is waterproof except the submarine. CyberTrucks are Water Resistant up to certain depth...
It *is* waterproof. The "wade mode" is just an added layer of protection for when the battery is going to be intentionally submerged for long periods of time. Even then, any regular EV should be fine, but it's not guaranteed, nor are they really designed to be submerged, though they will likely do better than a regular gas car.
It's not bullet proof , it doesn't have bullet proof glass. I guess you can always try to cut a deal with the bad guys to only shoot at the body. That's how dumb the bullet proof claim is.
I think the 48V is no danger, since the current in the wires is probably even lower than on a 12v system. But im no expert :)
The current in normal operation will be less, allowing thinner wiring, which is why this change is being made. But when there's a short circuit, the current will be much greater. More current through a thinner wire means a greater risk of a fire.
@@Inkling777 Your right. But I guess they can have a small fuse to fix that?
That didn't take long... they sold what... less tan 100 cars in last 2 months and we already have them smashing into places....
The Cybertruck didn’t cause the accident…
Don’t let facts get in the way of a dumb comment.
Don't worry, it will never go into mass production 😂
They do seem to be struggling.
@@StacheDTraining I can only find one UA-cam channel belonging to an alleged owner, & he works for tesla in Austin. It's just a marketing gimmick imo & I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this crash was staged. Nothing is as it seems with musk, ever.
That’s funny according to various sources they have delivered about 500 so far and I got an email letting me confirm my order I will hopefully get it asap
@elementary9777 when I spoke to the rep at the showroom, they didn't seem that optimistic. It's possible though.
There is a Munroe video tour of the production line which shows many hundreds of millions of dollars worth of capital equipment purely for the cybertruck. I think we can count on at least 20,000 - 50,000 produced this year. Ramping up takes time. @@StacheDTraining
it looks like Homer Simpson designed it.... stupid
This really is Homer simpsons car come to fruition, like what I use to draw in school when I was a child, look at the stupid angles of the side pillars that cut off space in the interior, not to mention they are extreme fire hazards.