legal phrases like "trespass to chattels" and "conversion" kind of show how complicated it it. I took a law course, and the subtleties of property was illustrated by many unique, often hilarious, situations that actually arose in courts over the last couple centuries. Graeber teases apart these subtleties wonderfully, but it is also worth looking at how strange property rights can get, even today, even when only a practical solution is sought.
Margaret Atwood said once “ debt like all of our social relation is a concept that can change based on the way we think about it...she said maybe we should count and measure things in a different way” at the Tomas I hear that on Bov Ideas I was blown way...now through this book I can understand what she was talking about all my life I was told this form of American capitalism is the best and only way to do things. I see hope for a new way to live!
It's worth pointing out here that brother Graeber was wrong about Jefferson, he did in fact radically propose to abolish slavery in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence. He was overruled and it was taken out in the second. Perversely, this did not prevent him from owning slaves himself. The following was written by Jefferson but struck by congress from the final draft: "He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of INFIDEL powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die,[3] he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the LIBERTIES of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the LIVES of another. . . ."
legal phrases like "trespass to chattels" and "conversion" kind of show how complicated it it. I took a law course, and the subtleties of property was illustrated by many unique, often hilarious, situations that actually arose in courts over the last couple centuries. Graeber teases apart these subtleties wonderfully, but it is also worth looking at how strange property rights can get, even today, even when only a practical solution is sought.
Margaret Atwood said once “ debt like all of our social relation is a concept that can change based on the way we think about it...she said maybe we should count and measure things in a different way” at the Tomas I hear that on Bov Ideas I was blown way...now through this book I can understand what she was talking about all my life I was told this form of American capitalism is the best and only way to do things.
I see hope for a new way to live!
1:18:41 - Heroic
It's worth pointing out here that brother Graeber was wrong about Jefferson, he did in fact radically propose to abolish slavery in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence. He was overruled and it was taken out in the second. Perversely, this did not prevent him from owning slaves himself. The following was written by Jefferson but struck by congress from the final draft:
"He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of INFIDEL powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought and sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die,[3] he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the LIBERTIES of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the LIVES of another. . . ."
So... he had multiple personalities?
kidding, but seriously, wtf?
Who narrated this? David himself?
Grover Gardner
1:10:21
Anderson Anna Anderson Paul Martinez John
1:56:16